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GYXU > Tennis > Robredo beats Safin 1 June 2005 09:49:24

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Robredo beats Safin

StephenJ 30 May 2005 22:53:45
 good match

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David Henry 30 May 2005 23:28:17 permanent link ]
 
"StephenJ" <c20@setyrtfj.77com­> wrote in message
news:6jJme.5097$%Z2­.90@lakeread08...> good match

It was a good match. I'm surprised Tommy held it together. He really should
have won going away in the fifth.

Robredo's return of serve really surprised me, particularly off the
backhand. Didn't know he was capable of it.

Dave


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Sakari Lund 31 May 2005 01:52:21 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 30 May 2005 13:53:45 -0500, "StephenJ" <c20@setyrtfj.77com­>
wrote:
good match

Yes, it was, and people should stop saying that Safin lost it because
he is a head case or something. You can't expect that he plays his
absolute best all the time. He played pretty well, and he was beaten
by a good clay courter who played very well.
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StephenJ 31 May 2005 02:02:47 permanent link ]
 R's backhand isn't weak, but surely Safin could have attacked more in
general. He disarmed himself to an extent.............­....


news:1117481332.78­4440.267370@g47g2000­cwa.googlegroups.com­...>Yes, but Safin should have won it. I was surprised he didn't attack>Robredo's weak backhand more.
-åsmund


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Only Human 31 May 2005 02:17:51 permanent link ]
 Federer def Robredo easily in Hamburg.

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Luke Tang 31 May 2005 02:37:56 permanent link ]
 Yes, I watched the whole match this morning. Both players have more winners
than UEs in the fifth set. Safin was not playing as well as what he did
against JCF, low serve percentage and very few aces. Robredo is attacking
really well. He has more winners than Safin and much less UEs. He moves
extremely well in picking up drop shots. His has a lot inside-out winners
which is very effective against Safin today. And very beautiful on-the-run
passing shots on both sides. I'm surprised that Safin didn't do much with
his backhand-down-the-l­ine shot which he used effectively against JCF.

"StephenJ" <c20@setyrtfj.77com­> wrote in message
news:6jJme.5097$%Z2­.90@lakeread08...> good match>
-- > "if federal judges have the final word over its meaning,> the Constitution would be a mere thing of wax in the hands> of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form> they please".>
- Thomas Jefferson>


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Ap 31 May 2005 03:38:26 permanent link ]
 as usual, steve is wrong. these 2 guys did a lot pf errors:
safin 73, robredo - 52.
also if you see the match, they both played much below own
good level. also marat had blisters!

"StephenJ" <c20@setyrtfj.77com­> wrote in message
news:6jJme.5097$%Z2­.90@lakeread08...> good match


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StephenJ 31 May 2005 03:45:05 permanent link ]
 
as usual, steve is wrong. these 2 guys did a lot pf errors:> safin 73, robredo - 52.> also if you see the match, they both played much below own> good level. also marat had blisters!

also, ap had a tumor the size of a brain inside his head!


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Frank Fontaine 31 May 2005 08:25:51 permanent link ]
 SAFIN = The biggest waste of talent tennis has seen. Even with him
wasting his talent he was still able to win 2 slams. Makes you wonder
how good he could really be if he was a smarter player.

On Mon, 30 May 2005 13:53:45 -0500, "StephenJ" <c20@setyrtfj.77com­>
wrote:
good match

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Googles 31 May 2005 11:20:50 permanent link ]
 
SAFIN = The biggest waste of talent tennis has seen. Even with him> wasting his talent he was still able to win 2 slams. Makes you wonder> how good he could really be if he was a smarter player.

Maybe he is just not good enough. His low risk game means he can lose to
anyone if he is having a off day, of course it means he is almost unbeatable
if he is having one of his best days.


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Whisper 31 May 2005 14:07:22 permanent link ]
 Googles wrote:
SAFIN = The biggest waste of talent tennis has seen. Even with him>>wasting his talent he was still able to win 2 slams. Makes you wonder>>how good he could really be if he was a smarter player.>
Maybe he is just not good enough. His low risk game means he can lose to> anyone if he is having a off day, of course it means he is almost unbeatable> if he is having one of his best days.>


That's closer to the truth....
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Pedro Dias 31 May 2005 14:44:35 permanent link ]
 
"Googles" <bleh> wrote in message
news:429c1308$0$465­5$afc38c87@news.optu­snet.com.au...>
SAFIN = The biggest waste of talent tennis has seen. Even with him> > wasting his talent he was still able to win 2 slams. Makes you wonder> > how good he could really be if he was a smarter player.>
Maybe he is just not good enough. His low risk game means he can lose to> anyone if he is having a off day, of course it means he is almost
unbeatable> if he is having one of his best days.>
You mean *high* risk game, surely?


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Googles 31 May 2005 16:07:38 permanent link ]
 
You mean *high* risk game, surely?

Yes, typo there. Meant High risk game, low margin for error etc


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Googles 31 May 2005 19:19:00 permanent link ]
 
Safin was good enough at 20 to beat your hero Sampras in straights at> the U.S. Open final.>
Safin was also good enough to defeat Federer at the semis of the> Australian this year.

2 outstanding performances in half a decade that led to slam wins.


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Whisper 1 June 2005 02:10:30 permanent link ]
 drew wrote:
Whisper wrote:>
Googles wrote:>>
SAFIN = The biggest waste of talent tennis has seen. Even with him>>>>wasting his talent he was still able to win 2 slams. Makes you wonder>>>>how good he could really be if he was a smarter player.>>>
Maybe he is just not good enough. His low risk game means he can lose to>>>anyone if he is having a off day, of course it means he is almost unbeatable>>>if he is having one of his best days.>>>
That's closer to the truth....>
Safin was good enough at 20 to beat your hero Sampras in straights at> the U.S. Open final. Oh, yeah, I forgot, Sampras was tired, bored,> didn't bring his A-game, had a sore knee, had a tough draw, blah, blah,> blah.>
Safin was also good enough to defeat Federer at the semis of the> Australian this year.>


Yes, I agree.

Are you drug-crazed..?

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Hops 1 June 2005 08:11:01 permanent link ]
 
"Googles" <bleh> wrote in message
news:429c8319$0$465­5$afc38c87@news.optu­snet.com.au...>
Safin was good enough at 20 to beat your hero Sampras in straights at>> the U.S. Open final.>>
Safin was also good enough to defeat Federer at the semis of the>> Australian this year.>
2 outstanding performances in half a decade that led to slam wins.


does that mean Federer has had only 4 outstanding performances his entire
career?





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Googles 1 June 2005 09:27:45 permanent link ]
 
does that mean Federer has had only 4 outstanding performances his entire> career?

What matters is your form at slams, apart from the 2 times he won Safin has
rarely played his best at these events (AO 2004/AO 2002 perhaps).


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Whisper 1 June 2005 09:49:24 permanent link ]
 Googles wrote:
does that mean Federer has had only 4 outstanding performances his entire>>career?>
What matters is your form at slams, apart from the 2 times he won Safin has> rarely played his best at these events (AO 2004/AO 2002 perhaps).>


That match v Sampras at '02 AO was one of the best ever....
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