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Re: WILLIAMS SISTERS ARE THE BEST

Paperw8 17 May 2005 04:18:45
 Gordon Cameron wrote:>
It would be a shame to stop watching tennis just because the Williamses> are no longer on top. Henin-Hardenne, for instance, is capable of> producing some beautiful tennis.>

maybe so, but as a practical matter, the most important player right
now is sharapova. for example, when sharapova lost to schynder, that
was the lead story on the tennis news websites. when mauresmo won the
italian open title, the lead story was federer's win at the hamburg
masters event.
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Vari L. Cinicke 17 May 2005 05:56:46 permanent link ]
 paperw8 wrote:> Gordon Cameron wrote:>
It would be a shame to stop watching tennis just because the Williamses>>are no longer on top. Henin-Hardenne, for instance, is capable of>>producing some beautiful tennis.>>
maybe so, but as a practical matter, the most important player right> now is sharapova. for example, when sharapova lost to schynder, that> was the lead story on the tennis news websites. when mauresmo won the> italian open title, the lead story was federer's win at the hamburg> masters event.

That is probably an easy one for the media. They prefer Sharapova's
longer legs and may be thinking that Mauresmo feels the same way.

If the most important player is the one that gets the most attention -
Anna K may still be in the top 5.
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Whisper 17 May 2005 12:14:43 permanent link ]
 Tysm0 wrote:
I have been following tennis for years and I sorta feel bad now that> the Williams sisters are no longer on top. I don't know if I will be> watching> the matches anymore.>
I will be playing music that talks about blacks and how blacks just> want handouts. They will be Topic of disscussion. I tried to find some> music that talked bad about White people in the same way and I could> not find any. If you know about some I will try to get some of it and> play it.>
1-877-454-8255>
The Empowerment show>
12 to 2 Central time/ 1 to 3 Eastern time>


This is a tennis ng dickhead - I couldn't give 2 fucks about racist issues.

Show some respect & don't post anymore.

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Whisper 17 May 2005 12:36:18 permanent link ]
 Gordon Cameron wrote:
What do you mean by "best"? Neither Serena nor Venus has career> achievements that come close to Graf or Navratilova. If you mean they> are "best at peak," i.e. their level was better than anyone else's when> they were on top, that is more defensible, though many here will> strongly argue against it.


Complete bollocks of course. If we accept that then Capriati has to
rate top 3 all time in absolute terms, ahead of MN/Evert/Graf...



Also you have to account for the obvious> disparity in achievement and level between Serena and Venus. Serena> has had a much better career than her sister.>
It would be a shame to stop watching tennis just because the Williamses> are no longer on top. Henin-Hardenne, for instance, is capable of> producing some beautiful tennis.>

Henin is light yrs ahead of sistas in pure tennis talent.... different
tiers.


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Whisper 17 May 2005 12:53:05 permanent link ]
 Tysm0 wrote:
Serena and Venus have both been outstanding tennis players and they> both have set the bar for the people behind them very high. I will no> longer watch the matches because the up and comming stars are very> disapointing. None of them have the size or the power of the Williams> Sisters, I fully expect tv rating to fall across the board because of> lack of interest. I lot of the reason they are leaving the game has a> lot to do with the lack of support by fans of Tennis.>


I think if sistas left the game today it would be similar to the
reaction in Aus when they cancelled FO coverage.
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Vari L. Cinicke 17 May 2005 16:14:10 permanent link ]
 Whisper wrote:
Gordon Cameron wrote:>
What do you mean by "best"? Neither Serena nor Venus has career>> achievements that come close to Graf or Navratilova. If you mean they>> are "best at peak," i.e. their level was better than anyone else's when>> they were on top, that is more defensible, though many here will>> strongly argue against it.>
Complete bollocks of course. If we accept that then Capriati has to > rate top 3 all time in absolute terms, ahead of MN/Evert/Graf...>
Also you have to account for the obvious>
disparity in achievement and level between Serena and Venus. Serena>> has had a much better career than her sister.>>
It would be a shame to stop watching tennis just because the Williamses>> are no longer on top. Henin-Hardenne, for instance, is capable of>> producing some beautiful tennis.>>
Henin is light yrs ahead of sistas in pure tennis talent.... different > tiers.>

What happened to the elaborate GS counts that you always hammer people
with? Not convenient this time?
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Whisper 17 May 2005 16:20:14 permanent link ]
 Vari L. Cinicke wrote:
Henin is light yrs ahead of sistas in pure tennis talent.... different >> tiers.>>
What happened to the elaborate GS counts that you always hammer people > with? Not convenient this time?


The stench of ignorance in this ng has been really overpowering lately.
Different issues - think hard, I'm sure you'll get it....
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Bob 17 May 2005 20:55:25 permanent link ]
 
"Tysm0" <Tysm0@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1116276687.023­212.37030@o13g2000cw­o.googlegroups.com..­.>I have been following tennis for years and I sorta feel bad now that> the Williams sisters are no longer on top. I don't know if I will be> watching the matches anymore.

got something against white folks? imagine if every white guy quit watching
NBA/NFL cuz no whites? you don't want to think about that though, right?

bob


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Paperw8 18 May 2005 05:58:54 permanent link ]
 Whisper wrote:> Gordon Cameron wrote:>
It would be a shame to stop watching tennis just because the Williamses> > are no longer on top. Henin-Hardenne, for instance, is capable of> > producing some beautiful tennis.>
Henin is light yrs ahead of sistas in pure tennis talent.... >

...and light years behind in terms of actual tennis *results*.

given that tennis isn't olympic figure skating, which do *you* think
real tennis players (as opposed to those who just *discuss* tennis
players) would prefer?
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Whisper 18 May 2005 12:43:38 permanent link ]
 Gordon Cameron wrote:
Henin is light yrs ahead of sistas in pure tennis talent.... different>
tiers.>
Not, however, in achievement thusfar (particularly vs. Serena), and as> you have said sufficiently often, "talent" and 75 cents will buy you a> cup of coffee...>



Yes.

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Whisper 18 May 2005 12:54:02 permanent link ]
 Gordon Cameron wrote:>
Meanwhile, Henin-Hardenne, who despite being white is plain-looking and> has a somewhat tainted reputation vis-a-vis her sportsmanship (see 2003> FO hullaballoo) is on a tear right now and may well ascend to the top> again, no matter what the media would prefer. Why? Because she wins> matches.>


But why does she win matches, & in what manner...?
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Whisper 18 May 2005 13:14:29 permanent link ]
 paperw8 wrote:
Whisper wrote:>
Gordon Cameron wrote:>>
It would be a shame to stop watching tennis just because the Williamses>>>are no longer on top. Henin-Hardenne, for instance, is capable of>>>producing some beautiful tennis.>>
Henin is light yrs ahead of sistas in pure tennis talent.... >>
...and light years behind in terms of actual tennis *results*.>
given that tennis isn't olympic figure skating, which do *you* think> real tennis players (as opposed to those who just *discuss* tennis> players) would prefer?


I agree achievements are obviously the main game, but who here would
pull out an old tape of Lendl v Wilander & kick back with a bottle of
chardonnay....?

Absolutely no one - not even Raja...



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Vari L. Cinicke 18 May 2005 16:24:01 permanent link ]
 Whisper wrote:
paperw8 wrote:>
Whisper wrote:>>
Gordon Cameron wrote:>>>
It would be a shame to stop watching tennis just because the Williamses>>>> are no longer on top. Henin-Hardenne, for instance, is capable of>>>> producing some beautiful tennis.>>>
Henin is light yrs ahead of sistas in pure tennis talent....>>
...and light years behind in terms of actual tennis *results*.>>
given that tennis isn't olympic figure skating, which do *you* think>> real tennis players (as opposed to those who just *discuss* tennis>> players) would prefer?>
I agree achievements are obviously the main game, but who here would > pull out an old tape of Lendl v Wilander & kick back with a bottle of > chardonnay....?>
Absolutely no one - not even Raja...>

I think you will surely need more than 1 bottle!
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Whisper 18 May 2005 16:35:22 permanent link ]
 Vari L. Cinicke wrote:
Whisper wrote:>>> ...and light years behind in terms of actual tennis *results*.>>>
given that tennis isn't olympic figure skating, which do *you* think>>> real tennis players (as opposed to those who just *discuss* tennis>>> players) would prefer?>>
I agree achievements are obviously the main game, but who here would >> pull out an old tape of Lendl v Wilander & kick back with a bottle of >> chardonnay....?>>
Absolutely no one - not even Raja...>>
I think you will surely need more than 1 bottle!

Yes, for Lendl/Wilander it would be best to pass out early in 1st set.....
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