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Re: Federer: "Sportsman of the Year"
Vari L. Cinicke 17 May 2005 03:45:57
	Adam Thirnis wrote: http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=tennisNews&storyID=URI:urn:newsml:reuters.com:20050516:MTFH82007_2005-05-16_19-13-20_L16152866:1> Joins previous winners Michael Schumacher (twice), Tiger Woods (twice)> and Lance Armstrong.> Nominees were:> Lance Armstrong (USA) - Cycling> Hicham El Guerrouj (Morocco) - Athletics> Roger Federer (Switzerland) - Tennis> Michael Phelps (USA) - Swimming> Valentino Rossi (Italy) - Motorcycling> Michael Schumacher (Germany) - Motor Racing> This is going to drive some people on rst over the edge.
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Googles 17 May 2005 07:43:01 [ permanent link ]
	How prestigious are these awards?
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Only Human 17 May 2005 08:06:15 [ permanent link ]
	Put it this way. Roger won the big one
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Whisper 17 May 2005 12:54:13 [ permanent link ]
	Googles wrote: How prestigious are these awards?> Depends. How many has Sampras won....?
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Whisper 17 May 2005 12:55:07 [ permanent link ]
	only human wrote: Put it this way. Roger won the big one> For Yury that means IW/KB double.....
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Ukrfan 17 May 2005 16:17:45 [ permanent link ]
	"Googles" <bleh> УППВЭЙМ/УППВЭЙМБ Ч ОПЧПУФСИ УМЕДХАЭЕЕ: news:428967ec$0$4658$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...> How prestigious are these awards?> Quite... look at the members of this Academy... http://www.laureus.com/academy/members/members.php -- Regards, Yury
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Guest 18 May 2005 03:04:48 [ permanent link ]
	LOL- What is John Mcenroe doing on the list? he was anything but a good sportsman. even today on the senior tour John is still unsportsman like in matches.
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David Henry 18 May 2005 06:29:22 [ permanent link ]
	<arnab.zaheen@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1116377645.167451.244700@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...> seles-...@webtv.net wrote:>> LOL- What is John Mcenroe doing on the list? he was anything but a> good>> sportsman. even today on the senior tour John is still unsportsman> like>> in matches.> It's not a "sportsmanship" award. It's more like an yearly "best player> of all sporting disciplines for the last year" award. Right. It's based on a particular year. Dave
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Whisper 18 May 2005 13:00:17 [ permanent link ]
	arnab.zaheen@gmail.com wrote: Whisper wrote:> Googles wrote:>> How prestigious are these awards?>>> Depends.>> How many has Sampras won....?> Sampras never in his career had a year like Federer did in 2004.> Obviously, he didn't win any Laureus.> Lots of players have had better yrs than Fed - no one has had a career like Sampras. 7 Wimbledons - I'm struck mute....
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Mikko Дmmдlд 18 May 2005 13:38:41 [ permanent link ]
	"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> kirjoitti viestissд news:BuDie.82$Eb5.3570@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...> Lots of players have had better yrs than Fed - no one has had a career> like Sampras. 7 Wimbledons - I'm struck mute.... Lots? Budge and Laver. That's it. .mikko
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Whisper 18 May 2005 14:37:16 [ permanent link ]
	Mikko Г„mmГ¤lГ¤ wrote: "Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> kirjoitti viestissГ¤> news:BuDie.82$Eb5.3570@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...> Lots of players have had better yrs than Fed - no one has had a career>>like Sampras. 7 Wimbledons - I'm struck mute....> Lots? Budge and Laver. That's it.> .mikko> Lots have 3 slam yrs, so he's in a group of > 10 or so.... Sampras stands alone. Fed can join him, but we won't know for many yrs....
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Richard Rundle 18 May 2005 15:35:17 [ permanent link ]
	"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:BuDie.82$Eb5.3570@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...> arnab.zaheen@gmail.com wrote:> Whisper wrote:> > Googles wrote:> >> How prestigious are these awards?> >>> Depends.> >> How many has Sampras won....?> > Sampras never in his career had a year like Federer did in 2004.> > Obviously, he didn't win any Laureus.> > Lots of players have had better yrs than Fed - no one has had a career> like Sampras. 7 Wimbledons - I'm struck mute.... Earth to Whisper - the clue is in the name of the award - "Sportsman of the Year". Not career, not decade, year. And anyway, the main reason Sampras doesn't appear on the list of winners is probably the award is a relatively new one and wasn't around for the peak years of his career. -- Richard
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Vari L. Cinicke 18 May 2005 16:21:51 [ permanent link ]
	Whisper wrote: arnab.zaheen@gmail.com wrote:> Whisper wrote:>> Googles wrote:>>> How prestigious are these awards?>>>> Depends.>>> How many has Sampras won....?>> Sampras never in his career had a year like Federer did in 2004.>> Obviously, he didn't win any Laureus.>> Lots of players have had better yrs than Fed - no one has had a career > like Sampras. 7 Wimbledons - I'm struck mute....> Surely you jest - twice!
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Whisper 18 May 2005 17:01:18 [ permanent link ]
	arnab.zaheen@gmail.com wrote:>>like Sampras. 7 Wimbledons - I'm struck mute....> I see. You don't know how to make relevant replies. I don't think we> are talking about career awards here. I wish Sampras had the ability to> win 3 slams, 11 tournies, multiple tournament wins on hard, grass and> clay, 3 masters series, 13-0 against top ten --- all in one year. But> he wasn't talented enough to pull off that kind of magic in one year.> Sorry. > Fed would swap with Sampras in a heartbeat - you think Sampras might swap with Fed?
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Whisper 18 May 2005 17:20:41 [ permanent link ]
	arnab.zaheen@gmail.com wrote: Also, as long as we are trying read Sampras's mind here, let's hear it> from the great man himself:> "I think he can dominate tennis for as long as I did," Sampras told> French newspaper L'Equipe.> "We have the same temperament and like me, he makes playing look easy,"> he said.> "He can do just about anything he wants with a racquet and he dominates> everybody as I did several years before."> "He is the best athlete, the one who moves best on court. What's> impressive is that he can play at the highest level without using too> much energy while his main rivals use a considerable amount," added> Sampras, of the 23-year-old Swiss.> ****> So I guess the question about whether Sampras himself thinks Fed is> worthy enough is answered and never be raised from you again. > He also said Hewitt/Safin were going to dominate slams bigtime.....
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Scruncher 18 May 2005 19:01:21 [ permanent link ]
	Whisper wrote: arnab.zaheen@gmail.com wrote:> Whisper wrote:>> Googles wrote:>>> How prestigious are these awards?>>>> Depends.>>> How many has Sampras won....?>> Sampras never in his career had a year like Federer did in 2004.>> Obviously, he didn't win any Laureus.>> Lots of players have had better yrs than Fed - no one has had a career > like Sampras. 7 Wimbledons - I'm struck mute....> Give us examples. Of better years, that is. Please.
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AReys 18 May 2005 21:13:05 [ permanent link ]
	Lots have 3 slam yrs, so he's in a group of > 10 or so....> Sampras stands alone.> Fed can join him, but we won't know for many yrs.... Lot's of players have had 3-slam years which included W/USO/AO? Because unless that's true you're suddenly looking like someone who thinks the FO is just as valid as any of the other slams and....why...that would go against EVERYTHING YOU HAVE EVER SAID. Fucking idiot.l
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AReys 18 May 2005 21:14:26 [ permanent link ]
	Well, he is partially right; because Hewiit and Safin HAVE won 4 grand> slams and could have won a few more in the last 18 months. They WERE in> the current top 4 when this year started, you know. But hey, Fed just> had to have that magical season in 2004 and ruin their slam dreams.> Didn't Fed beat Hewitt and Safin in two Slam finals last year? Didn't> Hewit and Safin compete in the final of the only slam played so far> this year? So, Sampras was quite right in his predictions, I would say. Hey that's actually a really good point.
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Jesper Lauridsen 18 May 2005 23:01:00 [ permanent link ]
	On 2005-05-18, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote: I'm struck mute.... ITYM "dumb". HTH.
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Whisper 19 May 2005 02:29:53 [ permanent link ]
	scruncher wrote: Whisper wrote:> arnab.zaheen@gmail.com wrote:>> Whisper wrote:>>> Googles wrote:>>>> How prestigious are these awards?>>>>> Depends.>>>> How many has Sampras won....?>>> Sampras never in his career had a year like Federer did in 2004.>>> Obviously, he didn't win any Laureus.>>> Lots of players have had better yrs than Fed - no one has had a career >> like Sampras. 7 Wimbledons - I'm struck mute....>> Give us examples. Of better years, that is. Please. ...count the guys who won 3 slams in a yr.
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Whisper 19 May 2005 02:35:02 [ permanent link ]
	AReys wrote: Lots have 3 slam yrs, so he's in a group of > 10 or so....>> Sampras stands alone.>> Fed can join him, but we won't know for many yrs....> Lot's of players have had 3-slam years which included W/USO/AO? Because > unless that's true you're suddenly looking like someone who thinks the FO is > just as valid as any of the other slams and....why...that would go against > EVERYTHING YOU HAVE EVER SAID. Fucking idiot.l > It's behind Wim/USO.
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Googles 19 May 2005 21:20:16 [ permanent link ]
	\> ...count the guys who won 3 slams in a yr. Only if slams are all equal which they are not........
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Whisper 20 May 2005 12:03:39 [ permanent link ]
	Googles wrote: \> ...count the guys who won 3 slams in a yr.> Only if slams are all equal which they are not........> Whatever. Bottom line is he has 3 blue-chip slams.....
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Mikko Дmmдlд 20 May 2005 12:34:12 [ permanent link ]
	"Richard Rundle" <Richard.Rundle@btinternet.com> kirjoitti viestissд news:d6f99l$a57$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-> And anyway, the main reason Sampras doesn't appear on the list of winners is> probably the award is a relatively new one and wasn't around for the peak> years of his career. It was but Sampras' record/year just was not convincing enough (it is a lot more difficult in tennis to prove yourself to the not-experts-at-all group who decides these things... .mikko
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