It seems she is playing agressively and is physically back to where she used to be, but she is still mentally fragile against the top players (unlike Serena - you can see it in Serena's eyes that she wants it!). If you were coaching Venus, what would you tell her to do, to get over this?
It seems she is playing agressively and is physically back to where she used > to be, but she is still mentally fragile against the top players> (unlike Serena - you can see it in Serena's eyes that she wants it!).> If you were coaching Venus, what would you tell her to do, to get over this?>
Devote 100% to tennis & get obsessive. Probably not something you can fake - you either have it or not.
It seems she is playing agressively and is physically back to where she
used> to be, but she is still mentally fragile against the top players> (unlike Serena - you can see it in Serena's eyes that she wants it!).> If you were coaching Venus, what would you tell her to do, to get over this?
I would tell her to start facing reality. If her interviews are any indication, she thinks she is still playing like she did when she was on top of the tennis world, and that she occasionally just "forgets" not to make errors. The thought that her opponents have become better and are beating her on merit doesn't seem to enter the equation.
Venus still has the raw tools to dominate most players, possibly with the exception of a healthy and fit Henin, but she needs to get her head back in the game and understand what's going on around her.
Venus still has the raw tools to dominate most players, possibly with the> exception of a healthy and fit Henin, but she needs to get her head back
the game and understand what's going on around her.
Peak-form Venus would crush Henin, as she always did. In most ways, her game matches up better with Henin's than Serena's does. Henin likes to game-plan and strategize the other player, and that requires discernible grooves and patterns in the opponent's play. Venus just doesn't provide much of that. When she's "on", she rips big shots from all angles without readily apparent rhyme-reason.
Peak-form Serena is Venus's Waterloo, and perhaps Sharapova as well. And that probably accounts for her unwillingness to follow whisper's sound advice. What's the point of going full-bore dedication if the best you're likely to get out of it is slam runner-ups?
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"Kunndi" <kunndi@nospam.pls> wrote in message news:1OP6e.4280$5J3.1901@lakeread01...> It seems she is playing agressively and is physically back to where she > used to be, but she is still mentally fragile against the top players> (unlike Serena - you can see it in Serena's eyes that she wants it!).> If you were coaching Venus, what would you tell her to do, to get over > this?
Venus still has the raw tools to dominate most players, possibly with the> > exception of a healthy and fit Henin, but she needs to get her head back> in> > the game and understand what's going on around her.>
Peak-form Venus would crush Henin, as she always did. In most ways, her
game> matches up better with Henin's than Serena's does. Henin likes to game-plan> and strategize the other player, and that requires discernible grooves and> patterns in the opponent's play. Venus just doesn't provide much of that.> When she's "on", she rips big shots from all angles without readily apparent> rhyme-reason.
I am not sure she would have crushed Henin, but she would have made it competitive, but Henin is different than most other players as she was one of the first women who started to play the game like Federer, ie she wasn't afraid to change tactics or to come to the net if necessary. Venus is still very 2-dimensional and could have found it difficult to cope with. It would have been an interesting match-up, and perhaps we might still get to see it some day.
Peak-form Serena is Venus's Waterloo, and perhaps Sharapova as well. And> that probably accounts for her unwillingness to follow whisper's sound> advice. What's the point of going full-bore dedication if the best you're> likely to get out of it is slam runner-ups?
But how long will she be willing to plug along like she is doing now? She doesn't seem to be enjoying herself much, even when she is winning.
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:11:24 -0400, "Kunndi" <kunndi@nospam.pls> wrote:
It seems she is playing agressively and is physically back to where she used >to be, but she is still mentally fragile against the top players>(unlike Serena - you can see it in Serena's eyes that she wants it!).>If you were coaching Venus, what would you tell her to do, to get over this?
Keep doing what she's doing, only harder.
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I am not sure she would have crushed Henin, but she would have made it> competitive, but Henin is different than most other players as she was one> of the first women who started to play the game like Federer, ie she
wasn't> afraid to change tactics or to come to the net if necessary. Venus is still> very 2-dimensional and could have found it difficult to cope with. It would> have been an interesting match-up, and perhaps we might still get to see
some day.
Both were very close to their peaks at AO 03.
Peak-form Serena is Venus's Waterloo, and perhaps Sharapova as well. And> > that probably accounts for her unwillingness to follow whisper's sound> > advice. What's the point of going full-bore dedication if the best
you're> > likely to get out of it is slam runner-ups?>
But how long will she be willing to plug along like she is doing now? She> doesn't seem to be enjoying herself much, even when she is winning.
Agreed.
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"Erich" <spoing@spammadoomylaaaa.uit> wrote in message news:JxR6e.4170835$Zm5.658759@news.easynews.com...> > Venus still has the raw tools to dominate most players, possibly with > > the>> > exception of a healthy and fit Henin, but she needs to get her head >> > back>> in>> > the game and understand what's going on around her.>>
Peak-form Venus would crush Henin, as she always did. In most ways, her> game>> matches up better with Henin's than Serena's does. Henin likes to> game-plan>> and strategize the other player, and that requires discernible grooves >> and>> patterns in the opponent's play. Venus just doesn't provide much of that.>> When she's "on", she rips big shots from all angles without readily> apparent>> rhyme-reason.>
I am not sure she would have crushed Henin, but she would have made it> competitive, but Henin is different than most other players as she was one> of the first women who started to play the game like Federer, ie she > wasn't> afraid to change tactics or to come to the net if necessary. Venus is > still> very 2-dimensional and could have found it difficult to cope with. It > would> have been an interesting match-up, and perhaps we might still get to see > it> some day.>
Peak-form Serena is Venus's Waterloo, and perhaps Sharapova as well. And>> that probably accounts for her unwillingness to follow whisper's sound>> advice. What's the point of going full-bore dedication if the best you're>> likely to get out of it is slam runner-ups?>
But how long will she be willing to plug along like she is doing now? She> doesn't seem to be enjoying herself much, even when she is winning.
according to my prediction of 4 yrs ago, she's 1 yr into borrowed time right now..i peg her to quit in about a yr..
according to my prediction of 4 yrs ago, she's 1 yr into borrowed time
right> now..i peg her to quit in about a yr..
IIRC, this is the year i predicted she'd quit, and with no more slams either.
*** I think it's a detriment to the game to see the big huge serves...with only a few André's around to return the serve. So much of the time it's the ball kicking way up high...someone like Chang and Lleyton they have to be ready on a ladder to bloody return the serve. In my mind the racket has had an adverse effect to the quality of the spectators.
"Erich" <spoing@spammadoomylaaaa.uit> wrote in message > news:JxR6e.4170835$Zm5.658759@news.easynews.com...>
Venus still has the raw tools to dominate most players, possibly with >>>the>>>
exception of a healthy and fit Henin, but she needs to get her head >>>>back>>>
the game and understand what's going on around her.>>>
Peak-form Venus would crush Henin, as she always did. In most ways, her>>
game>>
matches up better with Henin's than Serena's does. Henin likes to>>
game-plan>>
and strategize the other player, and that requires discernible grooves >>>and>>>patterns in the opponent's play. Venus just doesn't provide much of that.>>>When she's "on", she rips big shots from all angles without readily>>
apparent>>
rhyme-reason.>>
I am not sure she would have crushed Henin, but she would have made it>>competitive, but Henin is different than most other players as she was one>>of the first women who started to play the game like Federer, ie she >>wasn't>>afraid to change tactics or to come to the net if necessary. Venus is >>still>>very 2-dimensional and could have found it difficult to cope with. It >>would>>have been an interesting match-up, and perhaps we might still get to see >>it>>some day.>>
Peak-form Serena is Venus's Waterloo, and perhaps Sharapova as well. And>>>that probably accounts for her unwillingness to follow whisper's sound>>>advice. What's the point of going full-bore dedication if the best you're>>>likely to get out of it is slam runner-ups?>>
But how long will she be willing to plug along like she is doing now? She>>doesn't seem to be enjoying herself much, even when she is winning.>
according to my prediction of 4 yrs ago, she's 1 yr into borrowed time right > now..i peg her to quit in about a yr..>
bob >
That's a heckuvva call at the time - looking good so far.
"StephenJ" <cjones@corpus.com> wrote in message news:zfY6e.16160$gs4.11657@okepread05...>> according to my prediction of 4 yrs ago, she's 1 yr into borrowed time> right>> now..i peg her to quit in about a yr..>
IIRC, this is the year i predicted she'd quit, and with no more slams> either.
you might be 1 yr off, but right on the slam count..but when you said it, did you REALLY mean it?
this isn't really that much of a prediction since when venus first came> > on the scene she said that she planned to retire when she was around 25.>
So did Graf/Evert etc. At 18 they all think 25 is ancient...>
keep in mind that venus was expressing an interest in doing things with her life other than playing tennis. she has been fairly consistent in that aspect throughout her career.
i think that for venus, tennis has been more of a means to an end rather than being the "end" itself.
