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Who can beat Federer at the Slams
Scott 31 March 2005 23:19:28
	Federer has reached such a zenith in the game of tennis that only a handful of players can beat him at the Slams (assuming he's at at least 85% of his best form). Here's a list of players I think that can stop Fed at the next four slams: 1. French Open - Coria, Nalbandian, Moya, Nadal, Gaudio 2. Wimbledon - Ancic, Henman, J. Johansson 3. US Open - Roddick, Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian, Berdych 4. AO - Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian Any additions, comments? Scott
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Kris 31 March 2005 23:56:48 [ permanent link ]
	Scott wrote:> Federer has reached such a zenith in the game of tennis that only a handful> of players can beat him at the Slams (assuming he's at at least 85% of his> best form). Here's a list of players I think that can stop Fed at the next> four slams:> 1. French Open - Coria, Nalbandian, Moya, Nadal, Gaudio Ferrero, Nadal, any decent claycourter with power (Canas, Zabaleta etc) in the early rounds 2. Wimbledon - Ancic, Henman, J. Johansson Roddick, Ancic (lesser chance)> 3. US Open - Roddick, Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian, Berdych Roddick, Safin, Nadal (in future)> 4. AO - Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian Safin, Roddick, Nadal (in future)> Any additions, comments?> Scott>
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Mikko Дmmдlд 1 April 2005 00:06:23 [ permanent link ]
	"Scott" <scottloughrey@earthlink.net> kirjoitti viestissд news:43Y2e.1370$44.1186@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...> Federer has reached such a zenith in the game of tennis that only a handful> of players can beat him at the Slams (assuming he's at at least 85% of his> best form). Here's a list of players I think that can stop Fed at the next> four slams:> 1. French Open - Coria, Nalbandian, Moya, Nadal, Gaudio A dozen+ more. All you need is fed having "off day" and opponent "on day". (may be I am too pessimistic) 2. Wimbledon - Ancic, Henman, J. Johansson Roddick still can do it but I am afraid he has developed (agassi vs sampras -type) mental block when playing Fed. May be we should add Henman. (what has Karlovic done lately? not seen any talk of him like last year?) 3. US Open - Roddick, Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian, Berdych Ditch Hrbaty and Berdych. May be add Ljubilic. 4. AO - Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian Ditch Hrbaty add Roddick .mikko
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Scott 1 April 2005 00:18:08 [ permanent link ]
	not really a Hrbaty obsession...I just noticed that Hrbaty is 2-0 against Fed. I guess you can discount Athens though. "Adam Thirnis" <adam.thirnis@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1112299054.322061.39060@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> What's with the Hrbaty obsession? Federer tanked the match in Ohio like> he did in Athens to rest and prepare for USO and it was exactly the> right thing to do.> Scott>
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Bob 1 April 2005 01:14:40 [ permanent link ]
	"Scott" <scottloughrey@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:43Y2e.1370$44.1186@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...> Federer has reached such a zenith in the game of tennis that only a > handful> of players can beat him at the Slams (assuming he's at at least 85% of his> best form). Here's a list of players I think that can stop Fed at the > next> four slams:> 1. French Open - Coria, Nalbandian, Moya, Nadal, Gaudio i think 3 of those are actually favorite over fed at FO. 2. Wimbledon - Ancic, Henman, J. Johansson i'd take henman off that list, put roddick on.. 3. US Open - Roddick, Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian, Berdych hmm.. 4. AO - Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian why so high on hrbaty? we know safin can do it, nalbandian seemed to previously have fed's #..i'm hopeful to see a fed/nadal miami final, might tell us a little bit about the upcoming season.. bob
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Scott 1 April 2005 01:20:54 [ permanent link ]
	"Anybody can beat Federer on a good day may be except Hewitt and Roddick." LOL "The Terminator" <villainintown@rediffmail.com> wrote in message news:1112302925.488824.309700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> Scott wrote:> > Federer has reached such a zenith in the game of tennis that only a> handful> > of players can beat him at the Slams (assuming he's at at least 85%> of his> > best form). Here's a list of players I think that can stop Fed at> the next> > four slams:> > 1. French Open - Coria, Nalbandian, Moya, Nadal, Gaudio> Any clay courter than beat Federer on his good day. But Federer is a> tough cookie on clay also.> 2. Wimbledon - Ancic, Henman, J. Johansson> Johansson can be a threat. But he is another Roddick. And Federer likes> those players.> 3. US Open - Roddick, Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian, Berdych> Anybody can beat Federer on a good day may be except Hewitt and> Roddick.> > 4. AO - Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian> Anybody can beat Federer on a good day may be except Hewitt and> Roddick.> Any additions, comments?> > Scott>
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Kunndi 1 April 2005 05:23:41 [ permanent link ]
	"Scott" <scottloughrey@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:43Y2e.1370$44.1186@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...> Federer has reached such a zenith in the game of tennis that only a > handful> of players can beat him at the Slams (assuming he's at at least 85% of his> best form). Here's a list of players I think that can stop Fed at the > next> four slams:> 1. French Open - Coria, Nalbandian, Moya, Nadal, Gaudio Guga? 2. Wimbledon - Ancic, Henman, J. Johansson Not Henman. C'mon, now. 3. US Open - Roddick, Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian, Berdych Why the last 3; Berdych because of the Olympics? 4. AO - Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian Same question about last two. Any additions, comments?> Scott>
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Googles 1 April 2005 06:26:47 [ permanent link ]
	Any additions, comments? Scrap Nalbandian, just because he had early success doesnt mean he is a Fed nemesis now. Hrbaty, you have to be kidding. Perhaps Nadal.
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Scott 1 April 2005 07:48:47 [ permanent link ]
	"Why the last 3; Berdych because of the Olympics?" Yes, I was imagining that Fed really lost that match. I didn't see it so I don't know. As for Henman, I think his game matches up well with Fed's on grass. I don't think Kuerton can beat Fed again, even on clay. Nalbandian has always given Fed problems. When you're lookking for a list of players who CAN beat Fed, you've got to look at him. Same with Hrbaty, although I understand that the experts here think that Fed was exhausted when he played him at Athens. "Kunndi" <kunndi@nospam.pls> wrote in message news:vo13e.143311$%U2.27446@lakeread01...> "Scott" <scottloughrey@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:43Y2e.1370$44.1186@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...>> Federer has reached such a zenith in the game of tennis that only a >> handful>> of players can beat him at the Slams (assuming he's at at least 85% of >> his>> best form). Here's a list of players I think that can stop Fed at the >> next>> four slams:>> 1. French Open - Coria, Nalbandian, Moya, Nadal, Gaudio> Guga?> 2. Wimbledon - Ancic, Henman, J. Johansson> Not Henman. C'mon, now.> > 3. US Open - Roddick, Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian, Berdych> Why the last 3; Berdych because of the Olympics?> 4. AO - Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian> Same question about last two.> Any additions, comments?>> Scott>>
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Steve 1 April 2005 09:05:26 [ permanent link ]
	I'd actually add Safin to the list at the French. He can play on the stuff, has won a couple of titles on clay, and has been to the semis there. "Scott" <scottloughrey@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:43Y2e.1370$44.1186@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...> Federer has reached such a zenith in the game of tennis that only a > handful> of players can beat him at the Slams (assuming he's at at least 85% of his> best form). Here's a list of players I think that can stop Fed at the > next> four slams:> 1. French Open - Coria, Nalbandian, Moya, Nadal, Gaudio> 2. Wimbledon - Ancic, Henman, J. Johansson> 3. US Open - Roddick, Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian, Berdych> 4. AO - Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian> Any additions, comments?> Scott>
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Luke Croll 1 April 2005 16:35:18 [ permanent link ]
	On 31 Mar 2005 11:57:34 -0800, "Adam Thirnis" <adam.thirnis@gmail.com> wrote: The only way Fed can be beaten here is if someone (except Roddick whose>serve Federer eats for breakfast) serves out of his skin - better than>he has ever served before or ever will again. Not Henman though and>JJ's volley is not good enough. Maybe Dent or Karlovic if they play>flawless service games. Karlovic??? OK, he might have knocked out Hewitt as defending champion, but that was a real, real fluke that will never be repeated. Karlovic has poor movement and Federer would tear him apart. -- Luke Croll ABDK FAQ: http://home.earthlink.net/~abdk-faq/faq.htm
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Whisper 1 April 2005 16:37:24 [ permanent link ]
	Scott wrote: Federer has reached such a zenith in the game of tennis that only a handful> of players can beat him at the Slams (assuming he's at at least 85% of his> best form). Here's a list of players I think that can stop Fed at the next> four slams:> 1. French Open - Coria, Nalbandian, Moya, Nadal, Gaudio> 2. Wimbledon - Ancic, Henman, J. Johansson> 3. US Open - Roddick, Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian, Berdych> 4. AO - Safin, Hrbaty, Nalbandian> Any additions, comments?> Scott> The obvious one. Federer.
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Whisper 1 April 2005 17:30:14 [ permanent link ]
	Luke Croll wrote: On 31 Mar 2005 11:57:34 -0800, "Adam Thirnis" <adam.thirnis@gmail.com>> wrote:> The only way Fed can be beaten here is if someone (except Roddick whose>>serve Federer eats for breakfast) serves out of his skin - better than>>he has ever served before or ever will again. Not Henman though and>>JJ's volley is not good enough. Maybe Dent or Karlovic if they play>>flawless service games.> Karlovic??? OK, he might have knocked out Hewitt as defending> champion, but that was a real, real fluke that will never be repeated.> Karlovic has poor movement and Federer would tear him apart. Karlovic is a choker. He loses every point he doesn't get to serve. If he can build his confidence up to win a handful of these he'd be winning way more matches....
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Whisper 2 April 2005 04:47:35 [ permanent link ]
	bob wrote:> why so high on hrbaty? we know safin can do it, nalbandian seemed to > previously have fed's #..i'm hopeful to see a fed/nadal miami final, might > tell us a little bit about the upcoming season..> bob Yes, Nadal is too good not to bust a move soon. My opinion is Fed at his best will beat Rafael right now, but it will have to be his best. If he drops a 1st t/b then watch out....
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Whisper 2 April 2005 04:48:53 [ permanent link ]
	Scott wrote: "Anybody can beat Federer on a good day may be except Hewitt and Roddick."> Yes, except Roddick has much better chance than Hewitt.... We've seen Hewitt's top notch game make no dent in Fed. Can't say that about Roddick.
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Whisper 2 April 2005 05:07:57 [ permanent link ]
	coop-a-loop wrote: On clay, there are more players that can knock him off.> But not only at Slams, just in general, I think right now the way to> beat Fed is to overpower him. Your groundstrokes need consistency &> pace in order to get him out of position. Otherwise, he's just too> quick, has great anticipation, and too much game.> If you can stay with him he could crumble, as he did v Safin at AO (down 2-5 before making score respectable).... Mentally he's no Sampras/Jimbo.... yet.
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David Henry 2 April 2005 06:50:47 [ permanent link ]
	"Luke Croll" <Lukecroll@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:sufq411bro4j4v66rq443otos9feo3hqe0@4ax.com...> On 31 Mar 2005 11:57:34 -0800, "Adam Thirnis" <adam.thirnis@gmail.com>> wrote:> The only way Fed can be beaten here is if someone (except Roddick whose>>serve Federer eats for breakfast) serves out of his skin - better than>>he has ever served before or ever will again. Not Henman though and>>JJ's volley is not good enough. Maybe Dent or Karlovic if they play>>flawless service games.> Karlovic??? OK, he might have knocked out Hewitt as defending> champion, but that was a real, real fluke that will never be repeated.> Karlovic has poor movement and Federer would tear him apart. On early-round slick grass, Karlovic can beat anyone. He really extended the sets well against Federer when they met at Wimbledon last year. But if the grass is dried out, you have to figure most top players would take advantage of the few points here and there on his serve to win the match, even in tiebreaks. Dave
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