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GYXU > Tennis > Federer is #1, but who is #2? 27 March 2005 13:15:19

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Federer is #1, but who is #2?

Steve 20 March 2005 07:25:59
 Hewitt can't beat Federer. Roddick can't beat Hewitt (or Federer for that
matter). Safin can beat them all, but doesn't seem to make it to the latter
rounds as much. Who's the real Number 2?



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Karen Wall 20 March 2005 07:34:19 permanent link ]
 Hewitt. US Open final, AO final, Masters Cup final. Lost to eventual
GS champion last 5 times.

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Dr GroundAxe 20 March 2005 07:34:42 permanent link ]
 Steve wrote:> Hewitt can't beat Federer. Roddick can't beat Hewitt (or Federer for that > matter). Safin can beat them all, but doesn't seem to make it to the latter > rounds as much. Who's the real Number 2?>
Well let's see what happens in the final. Federer has been fortunate in
that he has not played a top 10 player in getting to the final. it is a
shame Roddick did not previal in the semi, as I feel he has a better
chance against Federer.
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Kris 20 March 2005 07:53:10 permanent link ]
 
Dr GroundAxe wrote:> Steve wrote:>
Hewitt can't beat Federer. Roddick can't beat Hewitt (or Federer for >> that matter). Safin can beat them all, but doesn't seem to make it to >> the latter rounds as much. Who's the real Number 2?>>
Well let's see what happens in the final. Federer has been fortunate in > that he has not played a top 10 player in getting to the final. it is a > shame Roddick did not previal in the semi, as I feel he has a better > chance against Federer.

Did you realize you can lose to non top-10 players? As Safin did. Plus
Federer beat a HOT Ljubicic who is as good as any top 10enner now.

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Dr GroundAxe 20 March 2005 08:03:28 permanent link ]
 Kris wrote:>
Dr GroundAxe wrote:>
Steve wrote:>>
Hewitt can't beat Federer. Roddick can't beat Hewitt (or Federer for >>> that matter). Safin can beat them all, but doesn't seem to make it >>> to the latter rounds as much. Who's the real Number 2?>>>
Well let's see what happens in the final. Federer has been fortunate >> in that he has not played a top 10 player in getting to the final. it >> is a shame Roddick did not previal in the semi, as I feel he has a >> better chance against Federer.>
Did you realize you can lose to non top-10 players? As Safin did. Plus > Federer beat a HOT Ljubicic who is as good as any top 10enner now.>


Safin is Safin though. As for Ljubicic, I'm not so impressed. He may
have made a few finals but he has a dismal GS and MS record.
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StephenJ 20 March 2005 08:44:45 permanent link ]
 
Hewitt. US Open final, AO final, Masters Cup final. Lost to eventual> GS champion last 5 times.

Yes, Hewitt is definitely "most likely to finish 2nd" at a big tournament
right now, so perhaps that makes him #2.


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we lost our power to declare an Act of Congress void. I do
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Whisper 20 March 2005 11:31:56 permanent link ]
 Steve wrote:> Hewitt can't beat Federer. Roddick can't beat Hewitt (or Federer for that > matter). Safin can beat them all, but doesn't seem to make it to the latter > rounds as much. Who's the real Number 2?>


Hewitt's most consistent, but has almost no chance of beating Fed as he
simply has no power to hurt him. Fed is bigger, better athlete, way
more talented & can just cruise in 3rd gear & win easily every time.
Hewitt's strengths are nothing for Fed - he can easily rally with him
from baseline, & then when the mood takes him uncork his wrist & point
over or easy put away....

Safin is way too erratic to talk about as a serious challenger.

Roddick is still Fed's biggest threat on paper, but clearly is suffering
a crisis of confidence.

So on balance I'd still say Roddick is next most likely to win a slam
out of the 3....
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Whisper 20 March 2005 11:32:37 permanent link ]
 Karen Wall wrote:
Hewitt. US Open final, AO final, Masters Cup final. Lost to eventual> GS champion last 5 times.>


Of the 3 he has the least chance of beating Federer....
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Whisper 20 March 2005 11:38:01 permanent link ]
 StephenJ wrote:
Hewitt. US Open final, AO final, Masters Cup final. Lost to eventual>>GS champion last 5 times.>
Yes, Hewitt is definitely "most likely to finish 2nd" at a big tournament> right now, so perhaps that makes him #2.>


Yes, even though he has less chance of beating Fed than Roddick or
Safin. I guess he's not the absolute no.2 then....?
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Sv 20 March 2005 12:31:49 permanent link ]
 
"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.­com.au> wrote in message
news:qL9%d.632$M17.­17385@nnrp1.ozemail.­com.au...> StephenJ wrote:>
Hewitt. US Open final, AO final, Masters Cup final. Lost to eventual>>>GS champion last 5 times.>>
Yes, Hewitt is definitely "most likely to finish 2nd" at a big tournament>> right now, so perhaps that makes him #2.>>
Yes, even though he has less chance of beating Fed than Roddick or Safin. > I guess he's not the absolute no.2 then....?

Correct. Safin & Roddick are legitimate chances against Fed. Hewitt may as
well go home.



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Adam Thirnis 20 March 2005 12:35:47 permanent link ]
 Safin is the only one of the 3 who can beat Federer in a GS match.

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Whisper 20 March 2005 13:28:51 permanent link ]
 SV wrote:
"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.­com.au> wrote in message > news:qL9%d.632$M17.­17385@nnrp1.ozemail.­com.au...>
StephenJ wrote:>>
Hewitt. US Open final, AO final, Masters Cup final. Lost to eventual>>>>GS champion last 5 times.>>>
Yes, Hewitt is definitely "most likely to finish 2nd" at a big tournament>>>right now, so perhaps that makes him #2.>>>
Yes, even though he has less chance of beating Fed than Roddick or Safin. >>I guess he's not the absolute no.2 then....?>
Correct. Safin & Roddick are legitimate chances against Fed. Hewitt may as > well go home.>


I think Fed's peckish for another bagel....
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Sv 20 March 2005 14:30:54 permanent link ]
 
"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.­com.au> wrote in message
news:knb%d.646$M17.­17684@nnrp1.ozemail.­com.au...> SV wrote:>
"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.­com.au> wrote in message >> news:qL9%d.632$M17.­17385@nnrp1.ozemail.­com.au...>>
StephenJ wrote:>>>
Hewitt. US Open final, AO final, Masters Cup final. Lost to eventual>>>>>GS champion last 5 times.>>>>
Yes, Hewitt is definitely "most likely to finish 2nd" at a big >>>>tournament>>>>r­ight now, so perhaps that makes him #2.>>>>
Yes, even though he has less chance of beating Fed than Roddick or Safin. >>>I guess he's not the absolute no.2 then....?>>
Correct. Safin & Roddick are legitimate chances against Fed. Hewitt may >> as well go home.>>
I think Fed's peckish for another bagel....

It's best of 5 don't forget....... 2nds anyone? :-)­



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John 20 March 2005 14:31:20 permanent link ]
 
"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.­com.au> wrote in message
news:JF9%d.628$M17.­17385@nnrp1.ozemail.­com.au...> Steve wrote:>> Hewitt can't beat Federer. Roddick can't beat Hewitt (or Federer for >> that matter). Safin can beat them all, but doesn't seem to make it to >> the latter rounds as much. Who's the real Number 2?>>
Hewitt's most consistent, but has almost no chance of beating Fed as he > simply has no power to hurt him. Fed is bigger, better athlete, way more > talented & can just cruise in 3rd gear & win easily every time. Hewitt's > strengths are nothing for Fed - he can easily rally with him from > baseline, & then when the mood takes him uncork his wrist & point over or > easy put away....

Federer is now the most consistant player and he is even more consistant
than
Hewitt, Hewitt is definitely more consistant than both Roddick and Safin,
but
at their best Roddick and Safin are definitely more explosive players than
Hewitt.>
Safin is way too erratic to talk about as a serious challenger.>
Roddick is still Fed's biggest threat on paper, but clearly is suffering a > crisis of confidence.


On paper may be, but Safin is much better match for Federer.
So on balance I'd still say Roddick is next most likely to win a slam out > of the 3....


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Whisper 20 March 2005 14:38:51 permanent link ]
 SV wrote:
"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.­com.au> wrote in message > news:knb%d.646$M17.­17684@nnrp1.ozemail.­com.au...>
SV wrote:>>
"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.­com.au> wrote in message >>>news:qL9%d.632$M­17.17385@nnrp1.ozema­il.com.au...>>>
StephenJ wrote:>>>>
Hewitt. US Open final, AO final, Masters Cup final. Lost to eventual>>>>>>GS champion last 5 times.>>>>>
Yes, Hewitt is definitely "most likely to finish 2nd" at a big >>>>>tournament>>>>­>right now, so perhaps that makes him #2.>>>>>
Yes, even though he has less chance of beating Fed than Roddick or Safin. >>>>I guess he's not the absolute no.2 then....?>>>
Correct. Safin & Roddick are legitimate chances against Fed. Hewitt may >>>as well go home.>>>
I think Fed's peckish for another bagel....>
It's best of 5 don't forget....... 2nds anyone? :-)­>


How about the 1st 6-0 6-0 6-0 final in open era?

Oh hang on, I keep forgetting he's no.2...



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StephenJ 20 March 2005 15:53:29 permanent link ]
 
Yes, Hewitt is definitely "most likely to finish 2nd" at a big
tournament> > right now, so perhaps that makes him #2.
Yes, even though he has less chance of beating Fed than Roddick or> Safin. I guess he's not the absolute no.2 then....?

yes, since safin has a slam title, he's obviously had the 2nd best year over
the past 52 wks...


--
I do not think the United States would come to an end if
we lost our power to declare an Act of Congress void. I do
think the Union would be imperiled if we could not make
that declaration as to the laws of the several States.

- Oliver Wendell Holmes, on the SCOTUS



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Whisper 20 March 2005 16:25:21 permanent link ]
 StephenJ wrote:
Yes, Hewitt is definitely "most likely to finish 2nd" at a big>
tournament>
right now, so perhaps that makes him #2.>
Yes, even though he has less chance of beating Fed than Roddick or>>Safin. I guess he's not the absolute no.2 then....?>
yes, since safin has a slam title, he's obviously had the 2nd best year over> the past 52 wks...>



...& indeed the best calendar yr thus far.

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Karen Wall 20 March 2005 19:27:32 permanent link ]
 Of course, Hewitt has the least chance of beating Federer but that
wasn't the question. He isn't losing to Johansson or Mutis at GS's.
Safin lost in round 1 of W and US Open.

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Jesper Lauridsen 20 March 2005 20:58:06 permanent link ]
 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:31:49 +1100, "SV" <serve@volley.com> wrote:
Correct. Safin & Roddick are legitimate chances against Fed. Hewitt may as >well go home.

But in this tournament Hewitt is the only one with an actual chance
to beat Federer, and Safin and Roddick are the ones who has gone home.
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Kunndi 20 March 2005 21:38:03 permanent link ]
 Hewitt seems the consistent #2.

"Steve" <smapdi@mindspring.­com> wrote in message
news:b36%d.15002$cN­6.8244@newsread1.new­s.pas.earthlink.net.­..> Hewitt can't beat Federer. Roddick can't beat Hewitt (or Federer for that> matter). Safin can beat them all, but doesn't seem to make it to the
latter> rounds as much. Who's the real Number 2?>


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Whisper 21 March 2005 01:05:13 permanent link ]
 Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:31:49 +1100, "SV" <serve@volley.com> wrote:>
Correct. Safin & Roddick are legitimate chances against Fed. Hewitt may as >>well go home.>
But in this tournament Hewitt is the only one with an actual chance> to beat Federer, and Safin and Roddick are the ones who has gone home.


Only because Hewitt hasn't had to play him til later, thanks to no.2
ranking. But on the court he has far less chance of actually beating
Fed than Roddick/Safin...
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Adam Thirnis 21 March 2005 11:58:44 permanent link ]
 Hewitt's grip on no.2 is likely to get stronger over the next few
months as this was a bad spell for him last year and this year he will
probably score more ranking points.

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Drew 22 March 2005 00:58:02 permanent link ]
 Exactly. It just seems that he should be closer to Federer in their
matches. When Hewitt plays Federer, he looks a distant #2.

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Jesper Lauridsen 26 March 2005 19:46:14 permanent link ]
 On 2005-03-20, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.­com.au> wrote:> Jesper Lauridsen wrote:>
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:31:49 +1100, "SV" <serve@volley.com> wrote:>>
Correct. Safin & Roddick are legitimate chances against Fed. Hewitt may as >>>well go home.>>
But in this tournament Hewitt is the only one with an actual chance>> to beat Federer, and Safin and Roddick are the ones who has gone home.>
Only because Hewitt hasn't had to play him til later, thanks to no.2 > ranking.

Hewitt and Roddick were in the same half of the draw, dumbass.
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Whisper 27 March 2005 13:15:19 permanent link ]
 Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
On 2005-03-20, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.­com.au> wrote:>
Jesper Lauridsen wrote:>>
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:31:49 +1100, "SV" <serve@volley.com> wrote:>>>
Correct. Safin & Roddick are legitimate chances against Fed. Hewitt may as >>>>well go home.>>>
But in this tournament Hewitt is the only one with an actual chance>>>to beat Federer, and Safin and Roddick are the ones who has gone home.>>
Only because Hewitt hasn't had to play him til later, thanks to no.2 >>ranking.>
Hewitt and Roddick were in the same half of the draw, dumbass.


Talking about Hewitt/Fed einstein...
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