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Re: Greatest female blue-chip slam champ post-WW2

David W 6 December 2006 02:43:49
 "robin" <robinson.neil@gmai­l.com> wrote in message
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Calimero wrote:> > 1. Graf - 18> > 2. Evert - 16> > 3. Navratilova - 15> > 4. Court-Smith - 13> > 5. King - 11> > 6. Connolly - 8> > 7. Bueno - 7> > 8. Osborne-Dupont - 6> > 9. Seles - 5> > 9. S. Williams - 5> > 9. V. Williams - 5> > .....> > Hingis - 2> >
Seles, Hingis and the Williams sisters are the most dominant players of> > the last 20 years except Graf.> >
Henin has won more 'blue-chip' slams than Hingis.

But has she been more dominant?
And Graf has won more blue-chip slams than those FOUR players COMBINED

David


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David W 6 December 2006 03:35:11 permanent link ]
 "robin" <robinson.neil@gmai­l.com> wrote in message
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David W wrote:> > "robin" <robinson.neil@gmai­l.com> wrote in message> > >
Henin has won more 'blue-chip' slams than Hingis.> >
But has she been more dominant?> >
Depends on your measure of dominance. However, this thread is> implicitly using blue-chips as the measure of dominance.

I'm not sure that it is. There's dominance in general and there's blue-chips. If
you dominate the tour, including non-blue-chip slams, but you have a poor record
in blue-chips, then that's a mark against you relative to Graf, since most of
Graf's slams were blue-chips. And if you have not dominated the tour then you
aren't really good enough to be seriously compared to Graf, even if you've had a
few purple patches at blue-chips. Anyway, Max will have to explain what he
means.
So the> criticism is valid. Hardly far to not pick the 4 players with the best> blue-chip records for a point concerning Grafs blue-chip record versus> the most dominant players of recent years. Is it?

Ask Max.
And Graf has won more blue-chip slams than those FOUR players COMBINED

David


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David W 7 December 2006 00:40:51 permanent link ]
 "Adam Thirnis" <adam.thirnis@gmail­.com> wrote in message
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Calimero wrote:> > 1. Graf - 18> > 2. Evert - 16> > 3. Navratilova - 15> > 4. Court-Smith - 13> > 5. King - 11> > 6. Connolly - 8> > 7. Bueno - 7> > 8. Osborne-Dupont - 6> > 9. Seles - 5> > 9. S. Williams - 5> > 9. V. Williams - 5> > .....> > Hingis - 2> >
Seles, Hingis and the Williams sisters are the most dominant players of> > the last 20 years except Graf.> >
And Graf has won more blue-chip slams than those FOUR players COMBINED>
but about 5 or 6 of these were down to the stabbing

No they weren't. If Mac had been stabbed on his way to collect the Christmas
turkey in 1984 then people would have been just as likely to put question marks
beside the slam winners of the next few years. As it turned out, they would have
been wrong. Regardless of the past, you have to prove yourself worthy of winning
the next slam by actually competing in it and winning it.

David


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