Down here in Southamerica, with small variations, you can get inside stadia: potato, plantain and bacon crisps, peanuts (maniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii hehe), biscuits, chocolates, chewing gum and the like. And beer, only in Venezuela, Ecuador and Uruguay, dunno about Paraguay.
Also pinchos (meat brochettes), choripan (chorizo burger or sausage burger), stuffed arepas (maize bread stuffed with cheese, meat, chicken, beans, etc), empanadas (maize pies), maybe pizzas, etc.
In England the customary fish and chips, sausage and chips, chicken and chips, burgers, mainly outside the grounds...
In France, I think I'll remember we had some chicken and chips before the match in a small shop outside Parc des Princes.
In Spain the habit is the bread with cured ham (jamon serrano) and salami inside the stadium, and lot of smoking :-s At stadium Bernabeu I smoked passively at least a packet of 20 cigarettes in just one Champions League match.
I once went to Giants Stadium to see Beckenbauer´s Cosmos and the hot dogs, burgers and the traditional sport food in the US were present: M & M's, sodas, chicken wings, etc.
How about other countries ?
JV
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Juan Vazquez wrote:> Down here in Southamerica, with small variations, you can get inside stadia:> potato, plantain and bacon crisps, peanuts (maniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii hehe),> biscuits, chocolates, chewing gum and the like. And beer, only in Venezuela,> Ecuador and Uruguay, dunno about Paraguay.>
Also pinchos (meat brochettes), choripan (chorizo burger or sausage burger),> stuffed arepas (maize bread stuffed with cheese, meat, chicken, beans, etc),> empanadas (maize pies), maybe pizzas, etc.>
In England the customary fish and chips, sausage and chips, chicken and> chips, burgers, mainly outside the grounds...>
In France, I think I'll remember we had some chicken and chips before the> match in a small shop outside Parc des Princes.>
In Spain the habit is the bread with cured ham (jamon serrano) and salami> inside the stadium, and lot of smoking :-s> At stadium Bernabeu I smoked passively at least a packet of 20 cigarettes in> just one Champions League match.>
I once went to Giants Stadium to see Beckenbauer´s Cosmos and the hot dogs,> burgers and the traditional sport food in the US were present: M & M's,> sodas, chicken wings, etc.>
How about other countries ?>
Scotland: various types of meat pies are quiet common, including Forfar Bridies. Beer of course, as well as hot drinks like tea coffee and bovril (cue Billy Connolly sketch).
Germany: Bratwurst and other sausages (Bockwurst). Pizza. Giros Pitas. Beer. I only ever went to two places for games (Bielefeld and Dortmund) but I would imagine there would be regional specialties too - Reibekuchen (potato pancakes) with apple sauce in Cologne etc.
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Although I was 13, I'm pretty sure it was lamb on offer, although possibly it's because it was a derby day. One thing though, they sold a type of lemonade pop that I have yet to taste anywhere else. Mmmm mmm good.
I had forgotten what did give me the idea for my first post of this thread:
the comments of some Colombian friends, long time ago, about the so called "cholesterol palace" (hehe), apparently a line of food shops just outside the "Nemesio Camacho" (El Campin) stadium at Bogotá.
Jorge Vergara may know the place and its delicatessen.
JV
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Anyone know what the fayre is like at Norwich? With Delia being there,I wonder if she has any imput into what is serve up on the terraces,or are her culinary skills only for the benefit of the corporate punters?
I don't remember food being a big deal in Italy. At least not for me - maybe now games at Meazza/S. Siro are big food fests - but in the 70's it was a brown bag extravaganza. I brought some sandwiches with prosciutto crudo on some fresh baked bread and maybe some carciofi (artichoke hearts) and pepper and butter.
Ahhhh ..... enough sustenance to get you through more than few chants of 'INTER! INTER!' and a few more of 'Milan .... di Mer .... ' ;)
To me the game was not about food or consumption - it was about cheering and flag-waving.
You really didn't want to 'demean' the idea of that with pedestrian fare. At least that was the way I looked at it - to me the game was for watching - I had a panino or two and some 'gazzosa' (Italian 7-Up) but that was about it.
It was LATER you had the real food - a stop at Rosticceria Peck for a Porchetta Peck or maybe some Sausage and Polenta and a glass of Barbera that would knock your socks off. Then it was home to mom and some vitello and risotto alla Milanese.
"Victoria Barrett" <vbarrett@the-beach.net> escribió en el mensaje news:0hu491p5gk49mu656qvd5m3gdcb5sgccas@4ax.com...> Oh BTW, Juan, I have a Chilean friend who was invited to Maracaibo> this weekend, and wants to attend a football match.>
Any tips, food, tickets, etc?
They should playing the promotion-relegation return leg match between Deportivo Maracaibo (runners up in 2d div) and Deportivo ItalMaracaibo (2nd from the bottom) in 1st div.
The first leg was a 0-0 draw last Sunday.
Both sides, as well as the national champs UA Maracaibo, are sponsored by the mayor office
They sometimes give free access to the stadium. Even to international matches, I mean with clubs from abroad.
But tickets should be less than 5 bucks.
Food ? hmmm... Ask for the "tequeños", fried "finger pies" of wheat flour stuffed with white cheese.
Lot of beer in the stadium, may be "hallacas": the local "tamales".
"Arepas" (maize bread) stuffed with meat, chicken, cheese, tuna, squids or anything, even quail eggs
"Reina pepeada" is a delicatessen: the arepa stuffed with chicken and avocado.
"Cachapas" (maize pancakes) with "queso de mano" (hand made white cheese).
And "empanadas": fried maize pie stuffed with anything, even black beans and cheese (called "Domino"
Victoria Barrett 24 May 2005 20:19:07 [ permanent link ]
On Tue, 24 May 2005 08:09:39 -0400, "Juan Vazquez" <jdepetare@_ant-.net> wrote:>They should playing the promotion-relegation return leg match between>Deportivo Maracaibo (runners up in 2d div) and Deportivo ItalMaracaibo (2nd>from the bottom) in 1st div.
Ital? Are they a club of Italian origin?
(BTW, since there are so many Portuguese who emigrated in the '70s, do they have a Vasco da Gama-like club in Venezuela?)
<snip>>Both sides, as well as the national champs UA Maracaibo, are sponsored by>the mayor office
*LOL* What? And this doesn't make people wonder why they are national champs?
They sometimes give free access to the stadium. Even to international>matches, I mean with clubs from abroad.
Oh dear...populism is very dangerous...
But tickets should be less than 5 bucks.
Very reasonable.
Food ? hmmm... Ask for the "tequeños", fried "finger pies" of wheat flour>stuffed with white cheese.>
Lot of beer in the stadium, may be "hallacas": the local "tamales".>
"Arepas" (maize bread) stuffed with meat, chicken, cheese, tuna, squids or>anything, even quail eggs >
"Reina pepeada" is a delicatessen: the arepa stuffed with chicken and>avocado.>
"Cachapas" (maize pancakes) with "queso de mano" (hand made white cheese).>
And "empanadas": fried maize pie stuffed with anything, even black beans and>cheese (called "Domino" >
And get some Tums or Maalox>
hehe
Thanks so much! Except for the arepas, which my friend really dislikes (same as I), I'm sure this will come in handy.
"Victoria Barrett" <vbarrett@the-beach.net> wrote in message news:9pk6919r3hiql2ujunqeelilmq3eb5qkeh@4ax.com...> On Tue, 24 May 2005 08:09:39 -0400, "Juan Vazquez"> <jdepetare@_ant-.net> wrote:> >They should playing the promotion-relegation return leg match between> >Deportivo Maracaibo (runners up in 2d div) and Deportivo ItalMaracaibo (2nd> >from the bottom) in 1st div.>
Ital? Are they a club of Italian origin?
Sort of. The mayor of Maracaibo is himself of italian origin.
(BTW, since there are so many Portuguese who emigrated in the '70s, do> they have a Vasco da Gama-like club in Venezuela?)
... and Maritimo (of the portuguese community) gained promotion last year and was sold to the maracaibo italians, who got the sponsorship of the mayor.
<snip>> >Both sides, as well as the national champs UA Maracaibo, are sponsored by> >the mayor office >
*LOL* What? And this doesn't make people wonder why they are national> champs? >
Actually, several 1st div sides are now sponsored by the local mayor offices or by governors of states.
JV
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Victoria Barrett 25 May 2005 01:24:03 [ permanent link ]
On Tue, 24 May 2005 15:58:01 -0400, "Juan Vazquez" <jdepetare@_ant-.net> wrote:>Sort of. The mayor of Maracaibo is himself of italian origin.
So, when he's not mayor anymore, what happens to the team --or-- is sponsorship independent of who is mayor?
... and Maritimo (of the portuguese community) gained promotion last year>and was sold to the maracaibo italians, who got the sponsorship of the>mayor.
Hmm.
Actually, several 1st div sides are now sponsored by the local mayor offices>or by governors of states.
No offence, but I can't see this happening in many North American cities, etc. There's a huge conflict of interests inherent in this sponsorship. At least, one should avoid the appearance of conflict of interest between the Establishment and Sporting clubs.
That's why Real Madrid are so hated even to this day.
What do ordinary Venezuelans have to say about this, and when did this sponsorship start? If it's historical, and people grew up with it, well, that's another story...
Food ? hmmm... Ask for the "tequeños", fried "finger pies" of wheat flour> stuffed with white cheese.>
Lot of beer in the stadium, may be "hallacas": the local "tamales".>
"Arepas" (maize bread) stuffed with meat, chicken, cheese, tuna, squids or> anything, even quail eggs >
"Reina pepeada" is a delicatessen: the arepa stuffed with chicken and> avocado.>
"Cachapas" (maize pancakes) with "queso de mano" (hand made white cheese).>
And "empanadas": fried maize pie stuffed with anything, even black beans > and> cheese (called "Domino" >
Oh man, stop that, you are bringing back so many happy memories. Now i gotta run to http://www.caracasarepabar.com/ (shameless plug, I know, but it's one of the few places to find all of the above in New York)
Victoria Barrett 25 May 2005 04:08:33 [ permanent link ]
On Tue, 24 May 2005 22:00:06 GMT, "Jorge Vergara" <jorge_vergara@hotmail.com> wrote:>Oh man, stop that, you are bringing back so many happy memories. Now i >gotta run to http://www.caracasarepabar.com/ (shameless plug, I know, but >it's one of the few places to find all of the above in New York)
Don't hate me, but I really dislike arepas.
I've tried them made all different types of ways, and I just can't take them.
I have a general maize-antipathy though. I can't stand tamales, tacos and nachos, and all that other vaguely Mezoamerican foodstuff. *sigh*
"Victoria Barrett" <vbarrett@the-beach.net> wrote in message newsk67915k2s7id7ta6uul1niefg9q2nkcm4@4ax.com...> On Tue, 24 May 2005 15:58:01 -0400, "Juan Vazquez"> <jdepetare@_ant-.net> wrote:>
So, when he's not mayor anymore, what happens to the team --or-- is> sponsorship independent of who is mayor?
It should be, but you never know what's going to say the next man.
What do ordinary Venezuelans have to say about this, and when did this> sponsorship start? If it's historical, and people grew up with it,> well, that's another story...
It has become more acute after the vinotinto mild success of the WC qualifiers for 2002, but it has been there lurking since a long time ago.
I guess it started with the stadia being lent to clubs and in recent years mayors and governors have become more involved.
Even in baseball there has been some participation of governors in Foundations associated to clubs.
I have read somewhere that state involvement in pro sports in North America is mainly in building and leasing stadia, but not so close as it is in here.
In here, people is concerned that if the next mayor doesn't like football he will withdraw support. For the time being football give votes
JV
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Victoria Barrett 25 May 2005 06:18:34 [ permanent link ]
On Tue, 24 May 2005 21:55:55 -0400, "Juan Vazquez" <jdepetare@_ant-.net> wrote:>"Victoria Barrett" <vbarrett@the-beach.net> wrote in message>> On Tue, 24 May 2005 15:58:01 -0400, "Juan Vazquez">> <jdepetare@_ant-.net> wrote:>>
So, when he's not mayor anymore, what happens to the team --or-- is>> sponsorship independent of who is mayor?>
It should be, but you never know what's going to say the next man.
Wow.
It has become more acute after the vinotinto mild success of the WC>qualifiers for 2002, but it has been there lurking since a long time ago.
Just to make sure I am not mistaking:
A mayor or governor in Venezuela can lend active sponsorship to a football club, not in the guise of an individual (like Rudy Giuliani - NYY), but using his OFFICE as mayor in some way, either by financial backing or some other x-reason?
(Faciliation of venues, police, etc. I'm thinking)
I guess it started with the stadia being lent to clubs and in recent years>mayors and governors have become more involved.
I see.
Even in baseball there has been some participation of governors in>Foundations associated to clubs.
That's what I suggested with "historic". There's nothing "wrong" with doing things your own way in Vene, of course, but this cohabitation of public and private is fairly serious.
I have read somewhere that state involvement in pro sports in North America>is mainly in building and leasing stadia, but not so close as it is in here.>
In here, people is concerned that if the next mayor doesn't like football he>will withdraw support. For the time being football give votes
Scary. Politicians owning teams like the Texas Rangers (technically not back then, but hey) or Milan is one thing, but putting your weight as mayor and the mayorality behind a team financially, is WHOLE other kettle of fish.
So what are you or Venezuelans going to do about this -- form ad-hoc committees to protest, etc.? Since obviously, this can't stand. It'll only lead to demagoguery in the future, if not now...
Home Depot Center not only has traditional USA sports food, but plenty of beer and REAL margaritas....
Also nachos, churros and one concession stand that specializes in Mexican food.
Best of all-just outside seating area is a Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf gourmet coffee shop (lattes, mochas, etc-better than Starbucks) "Juan Vazquez" <jdepetare@_ant-.net> wrote in message news:d6lc93$bbr$1@newsreader.mailgate.org...>
Down here in Southamerica, with small variations, you can get inside > stadia:> potato, plantain and bacon crisps, peanuts (maniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii hehe),> biscuits, chocolates, chewing gum and the like. And beer, only in > Venezuela,> Ecuador and Uruguay, dunno about Paraguay.>
Also pinchos (meat brochettes), choripan (chorizo burger or sausage > burger),> stuffed arepas (maize bread stuffed with cheese, meat, chicken, beans, > etc),> empanadas (maize pies), maybe pizzas, etc.>
In England the customary fish and chips, sausage and chips, chicken and> chips, burgers, mainly outside the grounds...>
In France, I think I'll remember we had some chicken and chips before the> match in a small shop outside Parc des Princes.>
In Spain the habit is the bread with cured ham (jamon serrano) and salami> inside the stadium, and lot of smoking :-s> At stadium Bernabeu I smoked passively at least a packet of 20 cigarettes > in> just one Champions League match.>
I once went to Giants Stadium to see Beckenbauer´s Cosmos and the hot > dogs,> burgers and the traditional sport food in the US were present: M & M's,> sodas, chicken wings, etc.>
How about other countries ?>
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