Quoting Juan Vazquez in rec.sport.soccer:><footballist@gmail.com> escribió en el mensaje>news:1114801069.411144.3670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...>
FIFA stinks.......they keep preaching FAIRPLAY but they do the opposite>> when it comes to themselves.>>
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Which includes handing over a couple of WC berths to Asia for free in the first place...
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<footballist@gmail.com> escreveu na mensagem news:1114816009.821852.11330@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> They should have at least made Japan play in NK but with no fans in the> stadium.
In which neutral country will it be played? I´m guessing it isn't China or South Korea
My guess is that what you don't want Japan to miss the warm welcome they would probably receive in Pyongyang. I don't think that it would have made much of a difference, really, actually I think that this move by FIFA is actually better to Noth Korea than having to face Japan in an empty Kim Il-Sung stadium. Japan just had to endure an extremely hostile atmosphere in the Asian Cup, in China, and came off as winners beating the hosts in the final. Japan may be "shitty" as you say, but they have shown they're not intimidated easily. In a neutral ground, North Korea might even draw the crowd support, as it is the underdog.
And anyway, it is North Korea's fault that the game will not be under the same conditions than those of Bahrain and Iran, not Japan's.
<mfarid1@yahoo.com> escreveu na mensagem news:1114895322.031251.306000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...> Yes, it is unfair. North Koreans need to be punished but Japan does not> need to be rewarded. The game could have been played in an empty> stadium in North Korea.
What is it that makes an empty stadium in Pyongyang different than one in, say, Malaysia?
<real_mardin@yahoo.co.uk> escreveu na mensagem news:1115028071.440750.256230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> Hello again Mark!>
I agree with what you're saying. There is a little more to the issue> than just the empty stadium.....but then again, FIFA can't really host> the game in NK just because the Koreans don't want to give up their> right to unsettle the Japanese by giving them unwashed bedsheets.
Exactly.
Fwiw, the South Korean FA has backed its northern neighbor. The head of the SK FA has said that NK should appeal from its penalty because it was "unexpectedly severe". So, although I really have no idea of how do the politics in AFC work, maybe we're yet to see the end of this issue.
The other problem with this partcular case is, the scenes outside the> stadium following the North Korea - Iran game were so wild that you> could make a reasonable case for not allowing competitive games to be> held in North Korea for X amount of years.
Well, it's their last home game and one never knows whether they'll show up or not to the next Asian Cup or World Cup cycle. FIFA may set a X years penalty only to see that they won't play at all for, say, X+1 years...
Sven Aarne Serrano 3 May 2005 08:08:50 [ permanent link ]
On 2 May 2005 02:50:37 -0700, real_mardin@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
This sounds like a fair compromise, nice to see a bit of common sense>returning to the thread.
NK football federation did not file an appeal (deadline May 1) so they and the political leadership are really sulking. Watch Kim Jong Il test a nuke just to get back at the world on this one.
