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GYXU > Soccer > Jewish footballers 27 April 2005 12:30:46

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Jewish footballers

Guest 27 April 2005 12:30:46
 Are there any prominent non-Israeli Jewish footballers? Why are there
so few?

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Mark V. 7 March 2005 01:51:29 permanent link ]
 
Are there any prominent non-Israeli Jewish >footballers?

I can't think of any, unless you consider former USMT starter Jeff
Agoos "prominent". I'll bet that there are a couple more in MLS.
Former Galaxy DF Dan Calichman is Jewish.
Why are there so few?

Perhaps because only 1 in 500 persons or so in the world are Jewish???
About 80% of those are in either the US (hardly a factory for prominent
soccer players), or Israel.

Considering this, the odds of having many prominent Jewish soccer
players are not so high.

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Victoria Barrett 7 March 2005 04:05:39 permanent link ]
 On 6 Mar 2005 13:51:29 -0800, "Mark V." <markvanderv1@yahoo­.com>
wrote:>Considering this, the odds of having many prominent Jewish soccer>players are not so high.

This is neither here nor there, but Jeff Agoos is claimed by the
Famous Jewish Athletes website I once visited.

And BTW, I once did a thread on the topic of Jewish footballers.
Googlgeisyourfriend­.
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Gabbage 7 March 2005 14:21:18 permanent link ]
 Well, there is at least one prominent Jewish club owner: Chelsea
sugardaddy Roman Abramovich.

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Bordon Is Gone 7 March 2005 19:29:53 permanent link ]
 In Brazil, Jewish managers are more common than players, e.g.
Fluminense's David Fischel and... well, I cannot remember anyone else!

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Robbie 7 March 2005 22:38:35 permanent link ]
 In article <1110145889.023088.­80790@l41g2000cwc.go­oglegroups.com>, Mark V.
graces us with a reply...> >Are there any prominent non-Israeli Jewish >footballers?>
I can't think of any, unless you consider former USMT starter Jeff> Agoos "prominent". I'll bet that there are a couple more in MLS.> Former Galaxy DF Dan Calichman is Jewish.>
Why are there so few?>
Perhaps because only 1 in 500 persons or so in the world are Jewish???> About 80% of those are in either the US (hardly a factory for prominent> soccer players), or Israel.>
Considering this, the odds of having many prominent Jewish soccer> players are not so high.

Dennis Wise may be Jewish.
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Mark V. 8 March 2005 00:58:15 permanent link ]
 
Robbie wrote:> In article <1110145889.023088.­80790@l41g2000cwc.go­oglegroups.com>,
Mark V.> graces us with a reply...
Dennis Wise may be Jewish.

For reasons that may remain unbeknownst even to me, I laughed when I
read this.

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Lloyd Heilbrunn 8 March 2005 01:18:02 permanent link ]
 Mark V. wrote:> Robbie wrote:>
In article <1110145889.023088.­80790@l41g2000cwc.go­oglegroups.com>,>
Mark V.>
graces us with a reply...>
Dennis Wise may be Jewish.>
For reasons that may remain unbeknownst even to me, I laughed when I> read this.>


Was Jock Stein Jewish?:)­


Lloyd Heilbrunn

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Robbie 8 March 2005 22:38:26 permanent link ]
 In article <1110229095.627369.­294620@g14g2000cwa.g­ooglegroups.com>, Mark V.
graces us with a reply...>
Robbie wrote:> > In article <1110145889.023088.­80790@l41g2000cwc.go­oglegroups.com>,> Mark V.> > graces us with a reply...>
Dennis Wise may be Jewish.>
For reasons that may remain unbeknownst even to me, I laughed when I> read this.

I remember reading he was once and a friend of mine also with Wise as a
surname is also Jewish. I think some Jews from eastern Europe renamed their
surnames as close as possible to a 'traditional English' surname.
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Mark V. 9 March 2005 00:20:13 permanent link ]
 
Robbie wrote:> In article <1110229095.627369.­294620@g14g2000cwa.g­ooglegroups.com>,
Mark V.> graces us with a reply...> >
Robbie wrote:> > > In article
<1110145889.023088.­80790@l41g2000cwc.go­oglegroups.com>,> > Mark V.> > > graces us with a reply...> >
Dennis Wise may be Jewish.> >
For reasons that may remain unbeknownst even to me, I laughed when
read this.>
I remember reading he was once and a friend of mine also with Wise as
surname is also Jewish. I think some Jews from eastern Europe renamed
their> surnames as close as possible to a 'traditional English' surname.

Weiss (White) to Wise?

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Robbie 12 March 2005 01:50:43 permanent link ]
 In article <1110313213.478323.­187430@z14g2000cwz.g­ooglegroups.com>, Mark V.
graces us with a reply...>
Robbie wrote:> > In article <1110229095.627369.­294620@g14g2000cwa.g­ooglegroups.com>,> Mark V.> > graces us with a reply...> > >
Robbie wrote:> > > > In article> <1110145889.023088.­80790@l41g2000cwc.go­oglegroups.com>,> > > Mark V.> > > > graces us with a reply...> > >
Dennis Wise may be Jewish.> > >
For reasons that may remain unbeknownst even to me, I laughed when> I> > > read this.> >
I remember reading he was once and a friend of mine also with Wise as> a> > surname is also Jewish. I think some Jews from eastern Europe renamed> their> > surnames as close as possible to a 'traditional English' surname.>
Weiss (White) to Wise?

Probably. The meaning of wise more than likey got the vote! :)­
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Victoria Barrett 27 April 2005 12:30:46 permanent link ]
 On 26 Apr 2005 21:29:49 -0700, "Mark V." <markvanderv1@yahoo­.com>
wrote:>Juan Pablo Sorin, apparently.

Interesting! There's Jeff Agoos of course. Hmm, I can't think of any
others really.

In other threads on the topic on RSS, someone though Dennis Wise might
be Jewish, but it's important not to imagine all Jewish-"sounding"
names are necessarily borne by Jewish people.

(As an example, in US baseball, the very Jewish-sounding David
Eckstein, shortstop of the Cardinals, is not Jewish even by
antecedence)

I also seem to recall a thread some years ago, which I started, called
"Jewish managers". I remember RSS Oldtimer Daniel Windler talking
about the ones in Argentina, which I found below.

http://groups-beta.­google.com/group/rec­.sport.soccer/browse­_frm/thread/170602c7­9604e07d/a39335ee19d­ca70c?q=jewish+manag­ers+rec.sport.soccer­&rnum=1#a39335ee19dc­a70c

Sadly, one of the first respondents was the late Greycat Sharpclaw.
RIP. :(­
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