Does any of our Scandinavian friends know about Christian Hoffman being recently banned from racing for 14 days because of high hemoglobin values. I was reading Jenex's website and they mentioned this. I know he finished in the top 3 recently in a World Cup event. It reminds me of 1999 when the Austrians with Hoffman and Botvinow beat the Norwegians in the World Championship Relay. I smelled a rat then and at Salt Lake too. Hoffman and Botwinow won Olympic Medals there I believe in the 30km Free. This prevented Bjorndalen the Biathlete from medaling along with another Norwegian.
I'll stay out of that one. Some February lab test results - in the midst of races - showed my Hemoglobin count to be 16.1 g/dl, which is just below what I think is the current FIS limit of 16.5 for males (14.5 for women), and got me to wondering. I do live at 5000' and typically train and race up to about 6600,' which would run up the number a bit. In any case, this thread led me to do a google search on "high hemoglobin values cross country ski." The first few result pages have some very informative articles and studies about the history of doping in x-c skiing, hemoglobin count changes over time among competitors, and even some specific recommendations to athletes from the IOC Medical Cmte about how to take official blood tests (their suggestions dovetail with Jim Stray-Gunderson's 2006 criticisms of hemoglobin criteria at http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/torino/biathlon/2006-02-16-pyleva-expelled_x.htm).
Gene
John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:49:37 -0700 (PDT), ADK Skier <lgsumr@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Does any of our Scandinavian friends know about Christian Hoffman
being recently banned from racing for 14 days because of high
hemoglobin values. I was reading Jenex's website and they mentioned
this. I know he finished in the top 3 recently in a World Cup event.
It reminds me of 1999 when the Austrians with Hoffman and Botvinow
beat the Norwegians in the World Championship Relay. I smelled a rat
then and at Salt Lake too.
Kikkan Randall and Leif Zimmerman of the US team got blood value
related suspensions in 2006. Did you smell anything then?
I don't think it's good to judge people based on high Hg values. If
you've got other reasons to suspect them, then maybe....
Terje Mathisen 23 March 2009 22:11:46 [ permanent link ]
ADK Skier wrote:
Does any of our Scandinavian friends know about Christian Hoffman
being recently banned from racing for 14 days because of high
hemoglobin values. I was reading Jenex's website and they mentioned
this. I know he finished in the top 3 recently in a World Cup event.
The real problem wasn't a high hemo value, but the wrong ratio between what I understadn to be "live" hemo and the breakdown byproducts.
Supposedly the only way to achieve this is to artificially increase the first number, but since all testing have found him otherwise clean, we have to assume that's true.
Terje
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Thanks Terje. The Jenex article said Hoffman has been measuring high on several occassions recently. The history of the Austrian Team with coaches supporting doping and the transfusion equipment found in their apartment in Salt Lake is what sets off a red flag. I understand they had a coach who was banned from any contact with races or athletes and kept showing up where Austrian Athletes were staying.
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