I wanted to buy a Burton file guide kit but I noticed that it' is for 90°-95° angle. I looked at some other models from Toko... and they are from 86°-90° angle. Why is only the burton file guide kit for 90°-95° angle and the others are for 86°-90°. What angles do I really need? I have a Nitro Atlas, and a few older boards that need filing.
I wanted to buy a Burton file guide kit but I noticed that it' is for > 90°-95° angle.> I looked at some other models from Toko... and they are from 86°-90° angle.> Why is only the burton file guide kit for 90°-95° angle and the others are > for 86°-90°.> What angles do I really need? I have a Nitro Atlas, and a few older boards > that need filing.>
I think the difference is how you look at the angle. 90 - 95 may mean \ \ \ ___________| The edge on this line is 90 deg.
\ \ \ ____________\ The edge on this line is (lets just say) 85 deg or 95 deg. It's just 5 deg off from perpendicular.
I wanted to buy a Burton file guide kit but I noticed that it' is for >90°-95° angle.> I looked at some other models from Toko... and they are from 86°-90° > angle.> Why is only the burton file guide kit for 90°-95° angle and the others > are for 86°-90°.> What angles do I really need? I have a Nitro Atlas, and a few older boards > that need filing.
It's only the terminology that is different.
\ \ \ T \ B _____________\
Imagine the above diagram is your edge. Burton is quoting you the angles shown by "B" and Toko is quoting you the angles shown by "T". In other words, Burton's 92 is the same as Toko's 88.
Which angles you need depends on what type of riding you do. The default these days seems to be a 1 degree side bevel (so that's 89 or 91, depending on the manufacturer) and a 1 degree base edge bevel. That leaves you with a 90 degree edge, but is less prone to catcging an edge than 0/0.
If you are primarily interested in carving, you may want more side edge bevel. This will give your edges more bite but at the expense of not being able to do as many tunes over the life of your board.
I wanted to buy a Burton file guide kit but I noticed that it' is for >>90°-95° angle.>>I looked at some other models from Toko... and they are from 86°-90° >>angle.>>Why is only the burton file guide kit for 90°-95° angle and the others >>are for 86°-90°.>>What angles do I really need? I have a Nitro Atlas, and a few older boards >>that need filing.>
It's only the terminology that is different.>
\> \> \> T \ B> _____________\>
Imagine the above diagram is your edge. Burton is quoting you the angles > shown by "B" and Toko is quoting you the angles shown by "T". In other > words, Burton's 92 is the same as Toko's 88.
And FK tuners are sensibly marked as 0 to 5 degrees in half degree increments. This would be the angle from vertical in the diagram above.
Andrej wrote:> Thanks.> So basically it's the same thing.
yup.
I think that I'll be using only the 90° angle for now.
The general consensus is that a 1 or 2 degree bevel on the base is more forgiving. With a 90 (or zero) degree angle you're more likely to catch an edge.
My advice would be to find out what the edge angles are now and keep them there. Think of it as sharpening, rather than changing what you have. If you currently have, say, a 2 degree edge and a 2 degree side, you'll have to remove a lot of steel to change it to 0 & 0. And if you don't like the results, you'll have to remove even more to go back.
If you had your board(s) tuned at a shop, they can probably tell you what they did. Or you can look up the factory tunes and start there.
I ment I will keep the edges like they made it in the factory, since I was boarding only 2 days with this board. It's a very stiff board (Notro Atlas) and I'm afraid that if I mess with the factory bevel I'll hurt myself.>
I think that I'll be using only the 90° angle for now.>
The general consensus is that a 1 or 2 degree bevel on the base is more > forgiving. With a 90 (or zero) degree angle you're more likely to catch > an edge.>
Great discussions. I didn't know very much and just bought a Dakine tuner that has only 89 and 90 degrees edges. From what I read this should probably be alright and that I might want to stick with the 89 degree edge for my boards. The big question I have stems from points made by others. What should I do about the current bevel on my board? I don't know what it is and don't know what harm or good could come of changing it to something else. I was planning on following the guide on the Dakine package for icy conditions although at the moment I cannot recall what those are.
Should I return the edger for a different one with more flexibility for setting the angle?