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GYXU > Skiing > Burton File Guide kit 19 March 2005 19:05:56

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Burton File Guide kit

Andrej 16 March 2005 21:43:31
 I wanted to buy a Burton file guide kit but I noticed that it' is for
90°-95° angle.
I looked at some other models from Toko... and they are from 86°-90° angle.
Why is only the burton file guide kit for 90°-95° angle and the others are
for 86°-90°.
What angles do I really need? I have a Nitro Atlas, and a few older boards
that need filing.



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Waco Paco 17 March 2005 00:35:05 permanent link ]
 Andrej wrote:
I wanted to buy a Burton file guide kit but I noticed that it' is for > 90°-95° angle.> I looked at some other models from Toko... and they are from 86°-90° angle.> Why is only the burton file guide kit for 90°-95° angle and the others are > for 86°-90°.> What angles do I really need? I have a Nitro Atlas, and a few older boards > that need filing.>


I think the difference is how you look at the angle. 90 - 95 may mean
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___________| The edge on this line is 90 deg.


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____________\ The edge on this line is (lets just say) 85 deg or 95
deg. It's just 5 deg off from perpendicular.
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Mike T 17 March 2005 01:17:44 permanent link ]
 
I wanted to buy a Burton file guide kit but I noticed that it' is for >90°-95° angle.> I looked at some other models from Toko... and they are from 86°-90° > angle.> Why is only the burton file guide kit for 90°-95° angle and the others > are for 86°-90°.> What angles do I really need? I have a Nitro Atlas, and a few older boards > that need filing.

It's only the terminology that is different.


\
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T \ B
_____________\

Imagine the above diagram is your edge. Burton is quoting you the angles
shown by "B" and Toko is quoting you the angles shown by "T". In other
words, Burton's 92 is the same as Toko's 88.

Which angles you need depends on what type of riding you do. The default
these days seems to be a 1 degree side bevel (so that's 89 or 91, depending
on the manufacturer) and a 1 degree base edge bevel. That leaves you with
a 90 degree edge, but is less prone to catcging an edge than 0/0.

If you are primarily interested in carving, you may want more side edge
bevel. This will give your edges more bite but at the expense of not being
able to do as many tunes over the life of your board.

Mike T








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Walt 17 March 2005 01:34:23 permanent link ]
 Mike T wrote:
I wanted to buy a Burton file guide kit but I noticed that it' is for >>90°-95° angle.>>I looked at some other models from Toko... and they are from 86°-90° >>angle.>>Why is only the burton file guide kit for 90°-95° angle and the others >>are for 86°-90°.>>What angles do I really need? I have a Nitro Atlas, and a few older boards >>that need filing.>
It's only the terminology that is different.>
\> \> \> T \ B> _____________\>
Imagine the above diagram is your edge. Burton is quoting you the angles > shown by "B" and Toko is quoting you the angles shown by "T". In other > words, Burton's 92 is the same as Toko's 88.

And FK tuners are sensibly marked as 0 to 5 degrees in half degree
increments. This would be the angle from vertical in the diagram above.

It's all the same, more or less.

--
//-Walt
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// There is no Völkl Conspiracy
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Andrej 17 March 2005 14:49:22 permanent link ]
 Thanks.
So basically it's the same thing.
I think that I'll be using only the 90° angle for now.


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Walt 17 March 2005 18:19:12 permanent link ]
 Andrej wrote:> Thanks.> So basically it's the same thing.

yup.
I think that I'll be using only the 90° angle for now.

The general consensus is that a 1 or 2 degree bevel on the base is more
forgiving. With a 90 (or zero) degree angle you're more likely to catch
an edge.

My advice would be to find out what the edge angles are now and keep
them there. Think of it as sharpening, rather than changing what you
have. If you currently have, say, a 2 degree edge and a 2 degree side,
you'll have to remove a lot of steel to change it to 0 & 0. And if you
don't like the results, you'll have to remove even more to go back.

If you had your board(s) tuned at a shop, they can probably tell you
what they did. Or you can look up the factory tunes and start there.

--
//-Walt
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// There is no Völkl Conspiracy
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Andrej 17 March 2005 19:46:05 permanent link ]
 I ment I will keep the edges like they made it in the factory, since I was
boarding only 2 days with this board. It's a very stiff board (Notro Atlas)
and I'm afraid that if I mess with the factory bevel I'll hurt myself.>
I think that I'll be using only the 90° angle for now.>
The general consensus is that a 1 or 2 degree bevel on the base is more > forgiving. With a 90 (or zero) degree angle you're more likely to catch > an edge.>

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Scott Lindner 19 March 2005 19:05:56 permanent link ]
 Great discussions. I didn't know very much and just bought a Dakine tuner
that has only 89 and 90 degrees edges. From what I read this should
probably be alright and that I might want to stick with the 89 degree edge
for my boards. The big question I have stems from points made by others.
What should I do about the current bevel on my board? I don't know what it
is and don't know what harm or good could come of changing it to something
else. I was planning on following the guide on the Dakine package for icy
conditions although at the moment I cannot recall what those are.

Should I return the edger for a different one with more flexibility for
setting the angle?

Cheers,
Scott


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