Hey, many great race tales out there this year. Thanks for writing yours. Thats the first cool thing about the 2005 Birkie.
Next up, I actually saw Kristina Joder at the finish line ! I was flat out shocked. Recall, she was struck by an automobile while rollerskiing last fall. She'd had aspirations of making the national team (SWE) to represent her country at the Obertsdorf Worlds. Helmet was cracked, and I believe she barely survived. Long hospital stay. Story was translated on fasterskier.com last fall shortly afterwards. She looked great, if she had backslid a bit, she seemed quite glad to just be racing. I was glad to see her back in action. Sets the stage for quite a comeback.
Next, Ned Overend, MTB World Champion, did really well in this race ! I don't know if he was "noticed" but I was scrolling the top 100 or so, and I saw him, at least top 200 anyway (without checking just now). That's pretty cool. Makes me wonder if I could get Frankie out here on the Michigan Cup....hmm....
Next up, I actually saw Kristina Joder at the finish line ! I was> flat> out shocked. Recall, she was struck by an automobile while> rollerskiing> last fall. She'd had aspirations of making the national team (SWE) to> represent her country at the Obertsdorf Worlds. Helmet was cracked,> and> I believe she barely survived. Long hospital stay. Story was> translated> on fasterskier.com last fall shortly afterwards. She looked great, if
Wait a minute. There is an American named Kristina Joder who is a great skier. Was that who you saw? Maybe you have the two gals confused?
delltodd wrote:> Hey, many great race tales out there this year. Thanks for writing> yours. Thats the first cool thing about the 2005 Birkie. [snip]> Next, Ned Overend, MTB World Champion, did really well in this race ! I> don't know if he was "noticed" but I was scrolling the top 100 or so,> and I saw him, at least top 200 anyway (without checking just now).> That's pretty cool. Makes me wonder if I could get Frankie out here on> the Michigan Cup....hmm....>
What did you see that was cool ?>
Tom Schuler is another retired pro rider who seems to be able to ski pretty well (378) Check the splits on Chris Sachs(7) and Joe Sem(8) in classic. Joe's only 18 and skiing a pretty strong race. I suspect we'll see that name for a long time to come.
I enjoyed scanning the results to see who did what.
Young Anikin seems to be moving up. 19th.
Old Asmus got 34th. (We skied a ways together from 2nd Wave in my only Birkie, 1991, probably his first, too, so he has to be old. He was NMU then, got 1st in the Wave and finished 15? mins ahead of me.)
I thought that Jay said he skied with Peyrot on the lake but she got him by 3 mins. Isn't lake near the end? What do I know.
Is Oberbreckling a Boulder biker? Got 72nd.
Tim Swift, ex-Detroit bike racer, does good. 116th.
Coach Fjeldheim did good, 39th. Dang!
Cliff Onthank---old-timer from Traverse---does great. 105th. (51 yrs old)
2nd place classic was 50 yrs old---2:44!
Travis Brown---another mtb racer---122nd, just ahead of Nedly.
Brothers Pierre and Andre Wille from Aspen keep rockin. Pierre 130th. There's a 3rd and one was a NCAA coach, as I recall.
Andrey Revyakin did great at 146th.
The Brothers Kay finished together at 167th.
My local pals who drove up together finished together at 363rd, I see. Bob and Rob. Canoe racer and top masters bike racer. They don't train together or anything, just drove together. Car-time is a great leveler, eh?
I vaguely suspect that Dave Jensen is a top canoer. He's in So-Calif. now, I think, but originally Wisconsin I recall. Probably hardly sees snow. Got 450th.
OLD Asmus? Hardly ! He's was my roommate at NMU for two years. A year younger than me..... which makes him 38 !! Does that mean I'm old too? He didnt start skiing until his sophomore year at NMU. His wife was more impressive. Pregnant all summer/fall growing a aerobic genetic baby, gives birth in december finishes in top 250 overall. Vicky Newberry-Asmus. (2nd overall female a few years back - '94?)
JK
<JeffOYB@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1109815129.777526.229030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...>I enjoyed scanning the results to see who did what.>
Young Anikin seems to be moving up. 19th.>
Old Asmus got 34th. (We skied a ways together from 2nd Wave in my only> Birkie, 1991, probably his first, too, so he has to be old. He was NMU> then, got 1st in the Wave and finished 15? mins ahead of me.)>
I thought that Jay said he skied with Peyrot on the lake but she got> him by 3 mins. Isn't lake near the end? What do I know.>
Is Oberbreckling a Boulder biker? Got 72nd.>
Tim Swift, ex-Detroit bike racer, does good. 116th.>
Coach Fjeldheim did good, 39th. Dang!>
Cliff Onthank---old-timer from Traverse---does great. 105th. (51 yrs> old)>
2nd place classic was 50 yrs old---2:44!>
Travis Brown---another mtb racer---122nd, just ahead of Nedly.>
Brothers Pierre and Andre Wille from Aspen keep rockin. Pierre 130th.> There's a 3rd and one was a NCAA coach, as I recall.>
Andrey Revyakin did great at 146th.>
The Brothers Kay finished together at 167th.>
My local pals who drove up together finished together at 363rd, I see.> Bob and Rob. Canoe racer and top masters bike racer. They don't train> together or anything, just drove together. Car-time is a great leveler,> eh?>
I vaguely suspect that Dave Jensen is a top canoer. He's in So-Calif.> now, I think, but originally Wisconsin I recall. Probably hardly sees> snow. Got 450th.>
Those Scandinavian countries are apparently easily interchangeable, too - at least from a distance - but FWIW the national team Unni Гdegaard had aspired to make was NOR, not SWE.
So, big deal.
Indeed, it just goes to show that the better a skier is, the poorer he is as a buff
Those Scandinavian countries are apparently easily interchangeable, too> - at least from a distance - but FWIW the national team Unni> Гdegaard had aspired to make was NOR, not SWE.
As are the languages of course:
Swedes understands swedish, danes understand danish and norwegian, while norwegians understand swedish and danish.
Finnish otoh is just a _little_ bit different, having no common roots with any other language except hungarian afaik?
'Yksi, kaksi, kolme' -> 1,2,3?, 'sanomat' -> newspaper/daily?, 'sunnistaiat' -> something to do with orienteering?
Anyway, that's just about all I've picked up from a few visits to Jukola.
Terje
-- - <Terje.Mathisen@hda.hydro.com> "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"
Those Scandinavian countries are apparently easily interchangeable, too>> - at least from a distance - but FWIW the national team Unni>> Гdegaard had aspired to make was NOR, not SWE.>
As are the languages of course:>
Swedes understands swedish, danes understand danish and norwegian, while > norwegians understand swedish and danish.
Hm, i don't have any problems with Norwegian at least the one that are talked normally. Far more problems with Danish.
Finnish otoh is just a _little_ bit different, having no common roots > with any other language except hungarian afaik?>
'Yksi, kaksi, kolme' -> 1,2,3?, 'sanomat' -> newspaper/daily?, > 'sunnistaiat' -> something to do with orienteering?>
Anyway, that's just about all I've picked up from a few visits to Jukola.
Almost any Finnish citizen have Swedish in school so they have a large advantage of understanding English, Swedish, Norweigian, Danish and Finnish. We are a little crippled because just a few understand Finnish in Sweden.
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz 3 March 2005 17:12:12 [ permanent link ]
Jeff,
Yeah, I looked at that too and wondered. Then I figured out that the elite women started 2 minutes behind the elite men, but the gun went off a minute early for the guys, and the clock started with the gun. So when she caught me, she was 3 min up on me.
She was moving pretty good across the lake and opened up 40 ft or so on me by the lake exit. As I followed her through Duffy's and on the lake, I made sure to keep a distance so I wouldn't catch her pole or run her over if she pulled a freak fall. She slowed up a bit on Main Street and the crowd was pretty loud. I slowed up just a bit also, not trying to steal any of the glory from her, but there's always the chance of getting caught if not by Elite wavers, then by virtual 1st wavers who have 10 minutes on me.
Jay
JeffOYB@hotmail.com wrote:> I thought that Jay said he skied with Peyrot on the lake but she got> him by 3 mins. Isn't lake near the end? What do I know.
Sure it's a big race, but things happen. They are firing a cannon, so there may some grey area there with timing the fuses. The "start line banner raisers" should be able to see the clock, and only go on the clock. I recall plenty of birkie starts, where we would start on the clock only to get the cannon a few DP's into the race.
Hm, i don't have any problems with Norwegian at least the one that
talked normally. Far more problems with Danish.
Sorry, that was a typo!
I intended to state that swedes understand norwegian, NOT danish. Sorry!
***
Aha ! So it's not just me ! A small relief.
So anyway, how is Unni Odegaard doing ? (Back there in NOR) Is she able to balance & train on skis ? Is she mended, or mending ? The old car / rollerski combo is what robs us Bjorn Daehlie, from such a young age.
delltodd wrote:>>Hm, i don't have any problems with Norwegian at least the one that>
talked normally. Far more problems with Danish.>
Sorry, that was a typo!>
I intended to state that swedes understand norwegian, NOT danish.> Sorry!>
***>
Aha ! So it's not just me ! A small relief.>
So anyway, how is Unni Odegaard doing ? (Back there in NOR) Is she> able to balance & train on skis ? Is she mended, or mending ? The old> car / rollerski combo is what robs us Bjorn Daehlie, from such a young> age.
She started walking again in november, but at that time she was still in pain, and her doctors would not let her fly, due to a brain oedema.
She stated that she still wants to try to get back to Torino next season, but realized that it is far too soon to tell if this might be possible.
Terje
-- - <Terje.Mathisen@hda.hydro.com> "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"
Say, what about Estonian? I thought that was very close to
Finnish.
"Very close" is of course relative: itВґs the closest and close enough for a child to pick up the similar words, but only close enough for mutual comprehension to occur occasionally, but generally the vocabulary differs vastly and a man in the street in Tallinn and one in Helsinki cannot read each otherВґs newspapers or discuss any subject at all.
(Andrus Veerpalu speaks Finnish well enough to answer fluently, but Kristina Smigun doesnВґt and prefers to be interviewd in English.)
You might well be correct. I also believe that some sami people speak
language with similar roots.
Yes, and a whole bunch of languages which have either died, are dying out or, as with Mari, whose promoters currently risk getting beaten up with lead pipes at the instigation of local government bosses...
'Yksi, kaksi, kolme' -> 1,2,3?, 'sanomat' -> newspaper/daily?,> >>'sunnistaiat' -> something to do with orienteering?
"Suunnistajat" would be "orienteerers".
Anyway, that's just about all I've picked up from a few visits to
Jukola.
My favorite (because it's the longest Finnish word I know):> > hiihtosuunistuskarte (might be spelled wrong) -> ski-orienteering
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"Hiihtosuunnistuskartta".
Anders (who can read Norwegian well enough to stumble on some of the "un-Swedish" words and who surprisingly often understands spoken Norwegian at least better than some Swedish dialects...)
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