Look forward to seeing you at the CSM. Here's an offer- if you attempt to do the both CSM and Keski next year, I'll be inspired by you and will attempt to do the 'double' too. Nice to hear the old RCS' are getting faster every year
Mitch Collinsworth 22 February 2005 08:08:06 [ permanent link ]
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 phoffman@pythagoras.math.uwaterloo.ca wrote:
I was also pleased to hear the reports last week on the> CSM, which has now got me salivating to go back to that.> Maybe next year I'll try to do both, Parham!
Sharon Crawford did both this year. And finished 1st in her age group at Keskinada.
John Forrest Tomlinson 22 February 2005 09:23:06 [ permanent link ]
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:23:05 +0000 (UTC), phoffman@pythagoras.math.uwaterloo.ca () wrote:
Hope to hear from others on the race. Was it pretty slow up>on top on Sunday, JFT? The skate times weren't that fast, but>skiing (and cheerleading) down below on Sunday, it didn't seem>too bad, despite the -18 deg.
It wasn't particulary slow or particularly fast. I guess that for that temp with a dusting of new snow, we should be thankful. The fastest bit was on the parkways at the end. The tracks were actually not very fast -- it seemed faster out of them on most downhills, but there was so much chatter outside them that being in was more restful. I think the snow
I cannot overemphasize how good the grooming was.
JFT
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John Forrest Tomlinson 22 February 2005 17:31:44 [ permanent link ]
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 05:32:06 -0500, "kenj1955" <kenj1952@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Wore>cycling shorts all week as a >compressoin fitting. Wore two pairs of cycling>shorts during the Keski which really helped. Experienced no sharp pain...>unlike CSM.>
Congratulations on finishing after doing the CSM and having your injury. Take what I am about to say with a grain of salt, because I am sponsored by this company, but I have to mention CW-X tights and shorts. The provide compession support in a way that is quite tight around your joints but allows freedom of motion for propulsion. I can't explain it succintly but take a look at the website http://cw-x.com/ss/introduction
I too participated in the prior weeks CSM, completing my Silver. I also came away from that with a sore groin which I was very concerned about going into the Keski 50k free. I rested up during the week and by Sunday morning it felt much better. Wish I could use it as an excuse for my poor Keski performance, but I really cant as it seemed the least of my problems during the race.
While I started the first 5-6kms feeling great and thinking I was going to have a great day, I all of a sudden started to bog down during the second 5kms just before Penguin (not where you want to start bogging down!). I tried to up the tempo a bit and fight my way through it, but the body didn't respond and by the 10km mark I was starting into survival mode! Now I'm usually good for 30 to 40 kms before I hit the survival phase, so I was a little puzzled. From the 10kms point on I skiied SLooowww, and by 35kms on the long parkway return my legs were cramping badly; when trying to fully extend them they would seize! Anyways, I was actually very glad to finish given the way I was feeling and ended up with a time of 3:38. I'd been hoping to crack 3 hrs as I did the course in training in 3:05. I can only guess that my sluggishness may have been the result of the 160km plod the weekend before? I kinda figure, though, that a week should have been ample recovery? Anyone had this unexplainable sluggishness?
Anyways, was still an awesome experience! Beautiful day, beautiful conditions, great atmosphere ... cant wait for nxt year!
Steve.
I also want to extend my sympathies to the family and friends of Bob Soboleski.
kenj1955 Wrote: > Skied the 52km Classic and marginally bettered my time over last year -> just> over 4-1/2h's, but position in my age group (50-54) dropped a few> spots.> Guess the course was faster this year.>
Glide was LF7 mixed with LF4. Glide was NOT fast - as usual on my 10> year> old Atomic ATC's (Should I excpect more after repeatedly chewing up > the> bases, repairing and re-sanding?). Grip was VR45 (long) and VR50> (short)> over VG35 Base Binder and Polar. Base binder worked well. Re-waxed> with> VR50 once after Huron on the way up. Grip was good.>
Hobbled by a groin injury sustained completing CSM Gold the prior> weekend.> On Tuesday before Keski, could barely walk and figured only a 10% > chance of> starting Keski. Remarkably, injury healed faster than expected. Wore> cycling shorts all week as a compressoin fitting. Wore two pairs of> cycling> shorts during the Keski which really helped. Experienced no sharp> pain...> unlike CSM.>
My limit during the race was general muscle soreness from CSM. With> the> injury, held back a bit for fear of tearing the muscle again. It> wasn't the> limiting factor I thought it would be.>
Finished fresh thinking I could ski another 20km... so obviously didn't> push> my aerobic capacity nearly enough. Too conservative! Mont Bleu was a> struggle, but didn't feel like I was 'going under' as I reached the> crest... as in some other years. Left too much out on the course...> but> alway though I was going pretty hard.>
The weather conditions couldn't have been better all weekend. Partly> sunny> on Saturday and sunny on Sunday. Temps -18C to start on both days> rising> to -6C roughly on both days.>
The event was very well organized again. Tracks/course was in very> good> condition. Slightly modified, wave starting arrangement worked well.> Food/liquid stations were well spaced/placed, and volunteers were> great.> Preferred the tracks to the old finish line, but really shouldn't> complain.> Registration was quick. Using the timing chips (for 2nd year) is> flawless.>
Using the Mont Bleu Ecole Secondaire worked better than the CEGEP. > (Could> never really figure out the hallways at the CEGEP anyways!)>
Spectator arrangements were lousy this year. Too many uneeded barriers> so> spectators couldn't get close to the skiers waiting to set off from> the> start. Couldn't get up close to the finishing tracks. Overeager and> overly> aggressive volunteers even impeded natural routes across an open and> snow> coverd athletic field to the starting area. Someone ought to review> the> layout with common sense in mind.>
If you've read my earlier post, you know I'm disappointed at Keski for> replacing finishing commemorative pins (keepsakes) with stickers> (disposables). I had quite a collection going. (Did buy a> commemorative> pin at the Keski product booth, but design was not the traditional> Keski> logo.) Please write to Keski (info@keskinada.com) if you feel as I> do.>
Okay Parham, let's plan on that, modulo injuries, we'll both do CSM then both do both 50km races at Keskinada. I'll be 64, so that's an adequate response Beatle Paul McCartney's "will you still need me, will you still feed me?"!! (Nothing like bragging 360 days in advance!)
I seem to have done okay for keeping my grip wax (and having fast skis) for several years in a row now in the 50, Mitch. But I certainly don't considere myself to be expert on either kind of waxing. The grip zone was simply 2 thin layers of VF binder ironed in, then 7 thin layers of VF30, the last 3 `pyramided' ((maybe 10 cm shorter).
<phoffman@pythagoras.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote in message> Two quick responses:>
Okay Parham, let's plan on that, modulo injuries, we'll both do> CSM then both do both 50km races at Keskinada. I'll be 64, so> that's an adequate response Beatle Paul McCartney's "will you> still need me, will you still feed me?"!! (Nothing like bragging> 360 days in advance!)> Best, Peter
Ok, Peter. You've inspired me. Let's aim for the 'double trouble' next year! CSM and then Keski.
Now talking about a Beatle's songs got me thinking- I'm a major Beatle's fan. The 'Fab Four' wrote so many other songs for the Canadian Ski Marathon:
Ticket To Ride -- as you get on the CSM bus to get to the dorm on Friday night Don't Let Me Down - is what you say as you put your final kick wax on Saturday morning Helter Skelter -- mass start on Saturday morning in the dark Here Comes The Sun -- as you turn off your headlamp and can finally see where the heck you're going Don't Pass Me By -- well I don't really mind if you do, really Help! -- as you get into the checkpoint and need the ski shop volunteers to wax your ski, fix your binding, etc. Fool On The Hill -- how one feels looking down Kilmar Hill In Spite Of All The Danger -- psyching yourself to go down it If I Fell -- better not think it, or you will Tell Me Why -- a question one asks one's self many a time on the CSM I'm Only Sleeping -- at the Gold Camp A Hard Day's Night -- will hopefully mean some sleep amongst all the snorers Yesterday -- is what comes to mind as you start the second day Long And Winding Road -- must be talking about section 5 It's All Too Much -- just before the last checkpoint It Won't Be Long -- as you enter the last section The End -- and the finishing line Come Together -- as you go the banquette to trade stories with the other Marathoners I'll Be Back -- as amnesia takes over and you think of doing the whole crazy thing again next year Magical Mystery Tour -- that sums up CSM, doesn't it?
