I saw a guy with a special binding that had a rod running up the back of his legs. I talked to him and he said the bindings transferred stress from his skis to a harness around his upper legs (kind of like a seat harness for climbing) and took the stress off his knees completely. He mentioned the name but I promptly forgot it. Anybody know what these are?
"Dwight" <dwightr8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8cd53b56.0503111704.2e3dfed3@posting.google.com...> I saw a guy with a special binding that had a rod running up the back> of his legs. I talked to him and he said the bindings transferred> stress from his skis to a harness around his upper legs (kind of like> a seat harness for climbing) and took the stress off his knees> completely. He mentioned the name but I promptly forgot it. Anybody> know what these are?>
In article <8cd53b56.0503111704.2e3dfed3@posting.google.com>, dwightr8@yahoo.com (Dwight) writes:> I saw a guy with a special binding that had a rod running up the back> of his legs. I talked to him and he said the bindings transferred> stress from his skis to a harness around his upper legs (kind of like> a seat harness for climbing) and took the stress off his knees> completely. He mentioned the name but I promptly forgot it. Anybody> know what these are?
I think the system you describe is actually very old (20 years or so) and never really picked up in popularity. The market was for older skiers or skiers with one form of disability or another that needed help because they didn't have enough muscle strength to ski.
I can't think of the name but I see one or 2 people a year using it.
snoig wrote:> "Dwight" <dwightr8@yahoo.com> wrote in message> news:8cd53b56.0503111704.2e3dfed3@posting.google.com...>
I saw a guy with a special binding that had a rod running up the back>>of his legs. I talked to him and he said the bindings transferred>>stress from his skis to a harness around his upper legs (kind of like>>a seat harness for climbing) and took the stress off his knees>>completely. He mentioned the name but I promptly forgot it. Anybody>>know what these are?>>
I forget what you call these things, but the idea is as the skier compresses (bend ze knees, pleeze) the rods stretch rubber bands (more modern versions may use a gas strut like supports current car hoods) which returns the energy to help the skier extend. Intended for older and disabled skiers who have a hard time expending the energy required for skiing.
I saw two different skiers using them at Jackson in the last few days - funny, because I haven't seen any in maybe a decade or more before this week, and here's a query re the system and I independently see a couple. I wonder if they're more popular as you move east? I'm checking Wyoming and Utah now - will report if any more are sighted. I never see them in the west West.
They look very weird in operation - rods thust up behind your butt as you compress; looks like some kind of crippled insect in use.
snoig wrote:> "Dwight" <dwightr8@yahoo.com> wrote in message> news:8cd53b56.0503111704.2e3dfed3@posting.google.com...>
I saw a guy with a special binding that had a rod running up the back>>of his legs. I talked to him and he said the bindings transferred>>stress from his skis to a harness around his upper legs (kind of like>>a seat harness for climbing) and took the stress off his knees>>completely. He mentioned the name but I promptly forgot it. Anybody>>know what these are?>>
"Design development: Nava plates have been developed thanks to particular dynamic tests carried out on the ski runs. Chronometer tests allowed the Nava engineers to improve really the product performances."
This is cut and paste from the page about NAVA plates which allow the ski to flex as design (sounds like a Hangl plate from a few years ago which worked really well). But what I want to know is how using a chronometer will allow engineers to improve the performance of a product which allows a ski to flex properly?
A chronometer is a really accurate clock. Nothing more.
Sounds like something written by someone who does not have English as a first language.
lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<JvMYd.17189$OU1.401@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>...> snoig wrote:> > "Dwight" <dwightr8@yahoo.com> wrote in message> > news:8cd53b56.0503111704.2e3dfed3@posting.google.com...> >
I saw a guy with a special binding that had a rod running up the back> >>of his legs. I talked to him and he said the bindings transferred> >>stress from his skis to a harness around his upper legs (kind of like> >>a seat harness for climbing) and took the stress off his knees> >>completely. He mentioned the name but I promptly forgot it. Anybody> >>know what these are?> >>
Thanks,> >>
Dwight> >
Not Nava. Nava's a whole different thing.>
I forget what you call these things, but the idea is as the skier > compresses (bend ze knees, pleeze) the rods stretch rubber bands (more > modern versions may use a gas strut like supports current car hoods) > which returns the energy to help the skier extend. Intended for older > and disabled skiers who have a hard time expending the energy required > for skiing.>
I saw two different skiers using them at Jackson in the last few days - > funny, because I haven't seen any in maybe a decade or more before this > week, and here's a query re the system and I independently see a couple. > I wonder if they're more popular as you move east? I'm checking Wyoming > and Utah now - will report if any more are sighted. I never see them in > the west West.>
They look very weird in operation - rods thust up behind your butt as > you compress; looks like some kind of crippled insect in use.
That sounds like it. The one I saw was at Sun Peaks, BC. If you see one again try to get the name of it.
"VtSkier" <VtSkier@nospam.com> wrote in message news:39jehuF5u8rf9U1@individual.net...> > Maybe Nava? http://www.robertsski.com/webpgss/mus.htm (about 1/2 way down> > the page.)> >
Snoig,> I went to the NAVA site and found this...>
"Design development: Nava plates have been developed thanks to> particular dynamic tests carried out on the ski runs.> Chronometer tests allowed the Nava engineers to improve really the> product performances.">
This is cut and paste from the page about NAVA plates which> allow the ski to flex as design (sounds like a Hangl plate> from a few years ago which worked really well). But what I> want to know is how using a chronometer will allow engineers> to improve the performance of a product which allows a ski> to flex properly?>
A chronometer is a really accurate clock. Nothing more.>
Sounds like something written by someone who does not have> English as a first language.>
VtSkier
I don't think the current NAVA bindings have anything to do with the old soft boot model with the cantilevered arm they had years ago. I'm not even sure it's the same company.
As for the ad copy, it sounds like something written by a marketing type who possibly failed out of engineering school before they took up an easier major. Or maybe that chronometer can be used to measure how much the vibrations are dampened by the plates?
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