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Jeff 8 March 2005 22:08:39
 Last Sunday we had a great day at our local ski area. There were still
a few freshies left over from last week's snow. In Pennsylvania, rarely
do we have such a great day in March. As a result, I was faced with a
dilemma: should I end on a high note or should I rough it out in the
slop?

In the past, I've always needed a final crappy day, the kind in which
you can hear running water rolling off the mountain, when you can wear
a t-shirt and fight the slop. That kind of day sucks but it helps
provide closure. "Okay, it's over."

We got snow today with more on the way. The Canadians did a fine job
when they pushed their cold air to the south. My question is now moot
as I've got at least one more promising weekend ahead. It's moot, but
I'll ask anyway: Do you prefer to end the season on a high note or do
you, like me, need that crappy final day for closure?

Jeff

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Mary Malmros 8 March 2005 22:24:07 permanent link ]
 Jeff wrote:

[snip]> We got snow today with more on the way. The Canadians did a fine job> when they pushed their cold air to the south. My question is now moot> as I've got at least one more promising weekend ahead. It's moot, but> I'll ask anyway: Do you prefer to end the season on a high note or do> you, like me, need that crappy final day for closure?

I need some slop, but I don't let it turn into a crappy day. When I was
a kid I'd ski until they threw me out and shut the place down; now I've
come to realize that some ski area operators, like the ones at
Killington, are sillier than I ever was as a child, and they'll keep
going all summer if they can. So I rarely ski to the end of the last
day anywhere, because the typical area stays open about three or four
days longer than it should.

I do like that last warm day, though -- and it doesn't have to be a
crappy day. Oh, sure, the skiing's typically crap, the snow is dirty
and you don't want to think about what you're doing to your bases...but
you don't need a neoprene face mask and fifteen layers, the sun is at a
higher angle, and the sound of the snow melting is also the sound of the
earth waking up. You can smell things getting ready to start growing.
People ski by with this, "Yeah, this is silly, but so what?" expression
on their faces, there are fewer of them, and they all understand why
everyone else is there. On a day like this, I go out there and ski
until the crap conditions start to take the fun out of the beautiful
day; then I take my time leaving, give one good last look around, and
ease on down the road. Usually I'll make several stops on the way, at
places I stop at during the season, get one last slice at the pizza
place, like that. When I get home and take my skis out of the box, my
neighbor -- an old-timer Canadian who came south decades ago to run a
ski area -- will smile and say, "All done now?" He understands too.

IOW, I ski on that final "crappy day" -- but I _always_ end on a high
note.

--
Mary Malmrosmalmros@bcn.­net
Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug.

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VtSkier 8 March 2005 23:19:22 permanent link ]
 Mary Malmros wrote:> Jeff wrote:>
[snip]>
We got snow today with more on the way. The Canadians did a fine job>> when they pushed their cold air to the south. My question is now moot>> as I've got at least one more promising weekend ahead. It's moot, but>> I'll ask anyway: Do you prefer to end the season on a high note or do>> you, like me, need that crappy final day for closure? >
I need some slop, but I don't let it turn into a crappy day. When I was > a kid I'd ski until they threw me out and shut the place down; now I've > come to realize that some ski area operators, like the ones at > Killington, are sillier than I ever was as a child, and they'll keep > going all summer if they can. So I rarely ski to the end of the last > day anywhere, because the typical area stays open about three or four > days longer than it should.>
I do like that last warm day, though -- and it doesn't have to be a > crappy day. Oh, sure, the skiing's typically crap, the snow is dirty > and you don't want to think about what you're doing to your bases...but > you don't need a neoprene face mask and fifteen layers, the sun is at a > higher angle, and the sound of the snow melting is also the sound of the > earth waking up. You can smell things getting ready to start growing. > People ski by with this, "Yeah, this is silly, but so what?" expression > on their faces, there are fewer of them, and they all understand why > everyone else is there. On a day like this, I go out there and ski > until the crap conditions start to take the fun out of the beautiful > day; then I take my time leaving, give one good last look around, and > ease on down the road. Usually I'll make several stops on the way, at > places I stop at during the season, get one last slice at the pizza > place, like that. When I get home and take my skis out of the box, my > neighbor -- an old-timer Canadian who came south decades ago to run a > ski area -- will smile and say, "All done now?" He understands too.>
IOW, I ski on that final "crappy day" -- but I _always_ end on a high note.>

Mary, I really hate to pierce your "tough-gal" bubble,
but that was a lovely piece of writing. If you don't
mind, I think I'll save it. As for me, when the ski
report includes statements like, "walking required,"
I might go for one more, but by then it's usually the
last trip out.

VtSkier
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Jeff 8 March 2005 23:33:55 permanent link ]
 VtSkier wrote:> Mary Malmros wrote:> > Jeff wrote:> >
[snip]> >
We got snow today with more on the way. The Canadians did a fine
when they pushed their cold air to the south. My question is now
moot> >> as I've got at least one more promising weekend ahead. It's moot,
I'll ask anyway: Do you prefer to end the season on a high note or
you, like me, need that crappy final day for closure?> >
I need some slop, but I don't let it turn into a crappy day. When
I was> > a kid I'd ski until they threw me out and shut the place down; now
I've> > come to realize that some ski area operators, like the ones at> > Killington, are sillier than I ever was as a child, and they'll
keep> > going all summer if they can. So I rarely ski to the end of the
last> > day anywhere, because the typical area stays open about three or
four> > days longer than it should.> >
I do like that last warm day, though -- and it doesn't have to be a
crappy day. Oh, sure, the skiing's typically crap, the snow is
dirty> > and you don't want to think about what you're doing to your
bases...but> > you don't need a neoprene face mask and fifteen layers, the sun is
at a> > higher angle, and the sound of the snow melting is also the sound
of the> > earth waking up. You can smell things getting ready to start
growing.> > People ski by with this, "Yeah, this is silly, but so what?"
expression> > on their faces, there are fewer of them, and they all understand
everyone else is there. On a day like this, I go out there and ski
until the crap conditions start to take the fun out of the
beautiful> > day; then I take my time leaving, give one good last look around,
ease on down the road. Usually I'll make several stops on the way,
places I stop at during the season, get one last slice at the pizza
place, like that. When I get home and take my skis out of the box,
neighbor -- an old-timer Canadian who came south decades ago to run
ski area -- will smile and say, "All done now?" He understands
too.> >
IOW, I ski on that final "crappy day" -- but I _always_ end on a
high note.> >
Mary, I really hate to pierce your "tough-gal" bubble,> but that was a lovely piece of writing. If you don't> mind, I think I'll save it. As for me, when the ski> report includes statements like, "walking required,"> I might go for one more, but by then it's usually the> last trip out.>
VtSkier

You guys are troopers. I usually go out one more day than I would have
liked. I'm sure this year will be no exception....

Jeff

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Mary Malmros 9 March 2005 01:39:23 permanent link ]
 Ron - NY wrote:
may not be true but I heard that Vermont gets the most snow in March . But > regardless I consider March to be a full month of skiing , especially with > all the snow lately .

Yeah, but it's pretty typical to have a Big Melt. Two years ago, IIRC,
there was a good slug of snow in early March; then on the 17th, it was
shirtsleeves weather, just in time for the Nationals. In like a lion,
out like a lamb, just as the saying goes.

--
Mary Malmrosmalmros@bcn.­net
Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug.

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VtSkier 9 March 2005 01:44:14 permanent link ]
 Ron - NY wrote:> may not be true but I heard that Vermont gets the most snow in March . But > regardless I consider March to be a full month of skiing , especially with > all the snow lately . I'm hoping to go all the way till April 15th . I think > that most people consider the season over which is a shame , it must be hard > for the mountain to rationalize staying open when nobody is showing up . > I'll do my part !> Ron>
"Jeff" <joesiege@gmail.com­> wrote in message > news:1110305319.422­653.53390@l41g2000cw­c.googlegroups.com..­.>
Last Sunday we had a great day at our local ski area. There were still>>a few freshies left over from last week's snow. In Pennsylvania, rarely>>do we have such a great day in March. As a result, I was faced with a>>dilemma: should I end on a high note or should I rough it out in the>>slop?>>
In the past, I've always needed a final crappy day, the kind in which>>you can hear running water rolling off the mountain, when you can wear>>a t-shirt and fight the slop. That kind of day sucks but it helps>>provide closure. "Okay, it's over.">>
We got snow today with more on the way. The Canadians did a fine job>>when they pushed their cold air to the south. My question is now moot>>as I've got at least one more promising weekend ahead. It's moot, but>>I'll ask anyway: Do you prefer to end the season on a high note or do>>you, like me, need that crappy final day for closure?>>
Jeff>>
Well, if you live here, you understand that skiing in
December, January and February is just to get you in
shape for March and April (all or most of it). Since
March is traditionally a snowy month (it's snowing now),
skiing AND weather is best. Remember January and skiing
at below zero temps? Why would anyone do that unless
there was some benefit. The benefit is skiing in March
(winter skiing) and April (spring skiing).

Season's end, as the thread indicates won't happen until
very late April or early May.

VtSkier
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Chris Nowak 9 March 2005 03:25:01 permanent link ]
 I need closure, but usually I get closer in late April in VT.

"Jeff" <joesiege@gmail.com­> wrote in message
news:1110305319.422­653.53390@l41g2000cw­c.googlegroups.com..­.> Last Sunday we had a great day at our local ski area. There were still> a few freshies left over from last week's snow. In Pennsylvania, rarely> do we have such a great day in March. As a result, I was faced with a> dilemma: should I end on a high note or should I rough it out in the> slop?>
In the past, I've always needed a final crappy day, the kind in which> you can hear running water rolling off the mountain, when you can wear> a t-shirt and fight the slop. That kind of day sucks but it helps> provide closure. "Okay, it's over.">
We got snow today with more on the way. The Canadians did a fine job> when they pushed their cold air to the south. My question is now moot> as I've got at least one more promising weekend ahead. It's moot, but> I'll ask anyway: Do you prefer to end the season on a high note or do> you, like me, need that crappy final day for closure?>
Jeff>


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Chris Nowak 9 March 2005 23:06:18 permanent link ]
 Killington averages 7 feet of snow begining March 1 and on. Killington also
stays open until June, although I've never skied beyond late April.
"Ron - NY" <ronscore@optonline­.net> wrote in message
news:BToXd.11251$98­5.7425@fe11.lga...> may not be true but I heard that Vermont gets the most snow in March . But > regardless I consider March to be a full month of skiing , especially with > all the snow lately . I'm hoping to go all the way till April 15th . I > think that most people consider the season over which is a shame , it must > be hard for the mountain to rationalize staying open when nobody is > showing up . I'll do my part !> Ron>
"Jeff" <joesiege@gmail.com­> wrote in message > news:1110305319.422­653.53390@l41g2000cw­c.googlegroups.com..­.>> Last Sunday we had a great day at our local ski area. There were still>> a few freshies left over from last week's snow. In Pennsylvania, rarely>> do we have such a great day in March. As a result, I was faced with a>> dilemma: should I end on a high note or should I rough it out in the>> slop?>>
In the past, I've always needed a final crappy day, the kind in which>> you can hear running water rolling off the mountain, when you can wear>> a t-shirt and fight the slop. That kind of day sucks but it helps>> provide closure. "Okay, it's over.">>
We got snow today with more on the way. The Canadians did a fine job>> when they pushed their cold air to the south. My question is now moot>> as I've got at least one more promising weekend ahead. It's moot, but>> I'll ask anyway: Do you prefer to end the season on a high note or do>> you, like me, need that crappy final day for closure?>>
Jeff>>


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Mary Malmros 10 March 2005 00:40:54 permanent link ]
 Chris Nowak wrote:
Killington averages 7 feet of snow begining March 1 and on.

Well, yeah, but at the risk of raining *cough* on your parade, New
England snow in March is quite unlike New England snow in January, in
that it's a lot less likely to stay around long.

--
Mary Malmrosmalmros@bcn.­net
Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug.

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Chris Nowak 10 March 2005 04:30:57 permanent link ]
 Very true. But it does make for some great spring skiing days.
"Mary Malmros" <malmrosnospam@bcn.­net> wrote in message
news:e6ednRBcBrrBwr­LfRVn-jw@bcn.net...>­ Chris Nowak wrote:>
Killington averages 7 feet of snow begining March 1 and on.>
Well, yeah, but at the risk of raining *cough* on your parade, New England > snow in March is quite unlike New England snow in January, in that it's a > lot less likely to stay around long.>
-- > Mary Malmros malmros@bcn.net> Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug.>


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Lal_truckee 10 March 2005 05:37:13 permanent link ]
 frankenskier wrote:>
I do most of my late year skiing at either Sierra at Tahoe or Alpine.> If it's at Alpine, you can sometimes even do a corn snow morning> combined with a mogul afternoon. I'm getting all excited just thinking> about it.

In May.
Arn't all these guys a little premature with the "end of season lament?"
The skiing just gets better and better until too many gaps exist in the
snow to jump. And that's some date in May. Or maybe June. Or July, if
you're at Mammoth.
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Mary Malmros 10 March 2005 05:51:01 permanent link ]
 lal_truckee wrote:> frankenskier wrote:>
I do most of my late year skiing at either Sierra at Tahoe or Alpine.>> If it's at Alpine, you can sometimes even do a corn snow morning>> combined with a mogul afternoon. I'm getting all excited just thinking>> about it.>
In May.> Arn't all these guys a little premature with the "end of season lament?"

No, they're all not. Not everyone lives/skis in the same place, and for
some people, the end of the season has already happened.

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Mary Malmrosmalmros@bcn.­net
Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug.

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Ruffus Corncobb 11 March 2005 00:13:21 permanent link ]
 
"Mary Malmros" <malmrosnospam@bcn.­net> wrote in message
news:4ImdnTlGUpdRcL­DfRVn-tw@bcn.net...>­ Jeff wrote:>
[snip]> > We got snow today with more on the way. The Canadians did a fine job> > when they pushed their cold air to the south. My question is now moot> > as I've got at least one more promising weekend ahead. It's moot, but> > I'll ask anyway: Do you prefer to end the season on a high note or do> > you, like me, need that crappy final day for closure?>
I need some slop, but I don't let it turn into a crappy day. When I was> a kid I'd ski until they threw me out and shut the place down; now I've> come to realize that some ski area operators, like the ones at> Killington, are sillier than I ever was as a child, and they'll keep> going all summer if they can. So I rarely ski to the end of the last> day anywhere, because the typical area stays open about three or four> days longer than it should.>
I do like that last warm day, though -- and it doesn't have to be a> crappy day. Oh, sure, the skiing's typically crap, the snow is dirty> and you don't want to think about what you're doing to your bases...but> you don't need a neoprene face mask and fifteen layers, the sun is at a> higher angle, and the sound of the snow melting is also the sound of the> earth waking up. You can smell things getting ready to start growing.> People ski by with this, "Yeah, this is silly, but so what?" expression> on their faces, there are fewer of them, and they all understand why> everyone else is there. On a day like this, I go out there and ski> until the crap conditions start to take the fun out of the beautiful> day; then I take my time leaving, give one good last look around, and> ease on down the road. Usually I'll make several stops on the way, at> places I stop at during the season, get one last slice at the pizza> place, like that. When I get home and take my skis out of the box, my> neighbor -- an old-timer Canadian who came south decades ago to run a> ski area -- will smile and say, "All done now?" He understands too.>
IOW, I ski on that final "crappy day" -- but I _always_ end on a high> note.

I expected that you were going to say when it got to sloppy to ski you just
traded your boards for a boat and paddled your way down. :)­


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