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OT: Air force ad

Bdubya 5 March 2005 04:18:11
 Anybody seen the USAF recruiting ad where a group of boarders are
tearing it up, hucking off cliffs and rocks and everything, and they
pass a sign that says "Trail out", and then they're in a forest (not
real steep) and they all stop at once and one of them says "man, where
are we?" and then another one checks his Magellan GPS and tells
everybody "This way!" and then they're all coming out of the forest
catching air off a little rise, and then it cuts to the future and the
guy with the GPS is now navigating on a B-1, and they say "we've been
waiting for you"?

Is that ad stupid or what?

bw
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Randy Bryan 5 March 2005 10:50:51 permanent link ]
 Yeah, especially when it is WELL KNOWN FACT that the Air Force uses
Garmin on their multibillion dollar bombers.

bdubya wrote:> Anybody seen the USAF recruiting ad where a group of boarders are> tearing it up, hucking off cliffs and rocks and everything, and they> pass a sign that says "Trail out", and then they're in a forest (not> real steep) and they all stop at once and one of them says "man, where> are we?" and then another one checks his Magellan GPS and tells> everybody "This way!" and then they're all coming out of the forest> catching air off a little rise, and then it cuts to the future and the> guy with the GPS is now navigating on a B-1, and they say "we've been> waiting for you"?>
Is that ad stupid or what?>
bw
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Vern93 5 March 2005 15:54:32 permanent link ]
 In article <%icWd.3595$C47.230­5@newssvr14.news.pro­digy.com>,
lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.­com> wrote:
bdubya wrote:> > Anybody seen the USAF recruiting ad where a group of boarders are> > tearing it up, hucking off cliffs and rocks and everything, and they> > pass a sign that says "Trail out", and then they're in a forest (not> > real steep) and they all stop at once and one of them says "man, where> > are we?" and then another one checks his Magellan GPS and tells> > everybody "This way!" and then they're all coming out of the forest> > catching air off a little rise, and then it cuts to the future and the> > guy with the GPS is now navigating on a B-1, and they say "we've been> > waiting for you"?>
I do admire the AF for suggesting that their Nuclear Weapon platforms > are piloted/navigated by a bunch of lost knuckle draggers. The image is > surely reassuring to all and sundry.

I like the one where the idiot jumps off the waterfall to retrieve his
back pack - when he pops up he's a Navy SEAL or a AF rescue swimmer or
something - with the "we've been waiting for you." Everytime I see that
ad, I expect him to wake up in halo traction in a spinal cord injury
ward - "we've been waiting for you - moron"
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Bdubya 5 March 2005 20:07:54 permanent link ]
 On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 06:27:07 GMT, lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.­com>
wrote:
bdubya wrote:>> Anybody seen the USAF recruiting ad where a group of boarders are>> tearing it up, hucking off cliffs and rocks and everything, and they>> pass a sign that says "Trail out", and then they're in a forest (not>> real steep) and they all stop at once and one of them says "man, where>> are we?" and then another one checks his Magellan GPS and tells>> everybody "This way!" and then they're all coming out of the forest>> catching air off a little rise, and then it cuts to the future and the>> guy with the GPS is now navigating on a B-1, and they say "we've been>> waiting for you"?>
I do admire the AF for suggesting that their Nuclear Weapon platforms >are piloted/navigated by a bunch of lost knuckle draggers. The image is >surely reassuring to all and sundry.

I'm still trying to work out exactly what "Trail out" means. I don't
recall ever seeing such a sign IRL. I've seen "trail CLOSED", usually
for lack of snow coverage, or for dangerously icy conditions, but
"trail OUT" is more reminiscent of, say, "bridge out". I could
picture maybe if a section of a catwalk was lost in a landslide, then
a trail could be "out", but that's not what happens in the ad (and if
it did, those guys would probably just jump the gap 'cause they're
xtreem doodz). Instead, they pass the sign and all of a sudden
they're lost in a forest (it must be sudden because they all stop at
the same time and look around nervously). Maybe the trail is "out" as
in "broken", and it has reverted to its original forested state until
repairs are effected? "Hey, this was Claimjumper yesterday, and now
it's a mature pine forest!"

Anyhow, then I assume the GPS guy also has the coordinates of the base
lodge, or at least the lift base, memorized or stored as a waypoint
(since he knows where they want to go as well as where they are), but
would someone capable of such an advanced level of planning get lost
in the first place?

And while the AF has been waiting for him, have the bombers just been
aimlessly meandering through unfamiliar airspace, stopping now and
then to look around and ask each other "Plane, where are we?"

bw
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Mary Malmros 6 March 2005 06:02:51 permanent link ]
 bdubya wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 06:27:07 GMT, lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.­com>> wrote:>
bdubya wrote:>>
Anybody seen the USAF recruiting ad where a group of boarders are>>>tearing it up, hucking off cliffs and rocks and everything, and they>>>pass a sign that says "Trail out", and then they're in a forest (not>>>real steep) and they all stop at once and one of them says "man, where>>>are we?" and then another one checks his Magellan GPS and tells>>>everybody "This way!" and then they're all coming out of the forest>>>catching air off a little rise, and then it cuts to the future and the>>>guy with the GPS is now navigating on a B-1, and they say "we've been>>>waiting for you"?>>
I do admire the AF for suggesting that their Nuclear Weapon platforms >>are piloted/navigated by a bunch of lost knuckle draggers. The image is >>surely reassuring to all and sundry.>
I'm still trying to work out exactly what "Trail out" means. I don't> recall ever seeing such a sign IRL. I've seen "trail CLOSED", usually> for lack of snow coverage, or for dangerously icy conditions, but> "trail OUT" is more reminiscent of, say, "bridge out". I could> picture maybe if a section of a catwalk was lost in a landslide, then> a trail could be "out", but that's not what happens in the ad (and if> it did, those guys would probably just jump the gap 'cause they're> xtreem doodz).

Or it could have been an ice bridge over a crevasse, and now...it's OUT!

Or maybe it just means that the trail is out, having lunch maybe, and
you'll have to come back in half an hour.
Instead, they pass the sign and all of a sudden> they're lost in a forest (it must be sudden because they all stop at> the same time and look around nervously). Maybe the trail is "out" as> in "broken", and it has reverted to its original forested state until> repairs are effected? "Hey, this was Claimjumper yesterday, and now> it's a mature pine forest!"

Or like I said, maybe the trail went to lunch. In which case, all you
have to do is sit around for a bit and it'll come back.
Anyhow, then I assume the GPS guy also has the coordinates of the base> lodge, or at least the lift base, memorized or stored as a waypoint> (since he knows where they want to go as well as where they are), but> would someone capable of such an advanced level of planning get lost> in the first place?

Oh, possibly. I get kinda-lost when hiking, as in "couldn't tell you
exactly where I am right now but I know where I started and which way I
went, so I could figure it out". It's kinda planning to get yourself
found again.
And while the AF has been waiting for him, have the bombers just been> aimlessly meandering through unfamiliar airspace, stopping now and> then to look around and ask each other "Plane, where are we?"

No, they haven't been stopping, that's the point. Remember the one that
aimlessly meandered into the cable of that tram in Italy a few years
back? If they were stopping, it'd be no problem.

--
Mary Malmrosmalmros@bcn.­net
Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug.

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Dave Stallard 9 March 2005 03:03:04 permanent link ]
 Mary Malmros wrote:
No, they haven't been stopping, that's the point. Remember the one that > aimlessly meandered into the cable of that tram in Italy a few years > back? If they were stopping, it'd be no problem.

I believe that plane was an A-6 intruder, which means Navy.

Dave
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Dave Stallard 9 March 2005 03:05:20 permanent link ]
 Dave Stallard wrote:> Mary Malmros wrote:>
No, they haven't been stopping, that's the point. Remember the one >> that aimlessly meandered into the cable of that tram in Italy a few >> years back? If they were stopping, it'd be no problem.>
I believe that plane was an A-6 intruder, which means Navy.

Close. It was a Marine EA-6B Prowler:

http://www.cnn.com/­WORLD/9802/03/italy.­cablecar.update2/
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Bdubya 9 March 2005 03:46:13 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:05:20 -0500, Dave Stallard
<stallard@nospam.ev­er> wrote:
Dave Stallard wrote:>> Mary Malmros wrote:>>
No, they haven't been stopping, that's the point. Remember the one >>> that aimlessly meandered into the cable of that tram in Italy a few >>> years back? If they were stopping, it'd be no problem.>>
I believe that plane was an A-6 intruder, which means Navy.>
Close. It was a Marine EA-6B Prowler:>

And the pilot knew almost exactly where he was, to within a few
crucial feet.

bw
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Dave Stallard 9 March 2005 03:48:57 permanent link ]
 bdubya wrote:> On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:05:20 -0500, Dave Stallard> <stallard@nospam.ev­er> wrote:>
Dave Stallard wrote:>>
Mary Malmros wrote:>>>
No, they haven't been stopping, that's the point. Remember the one >>>>that aimlessly meandered into the cable of that tram in Italy a few >>>>years back? If they were stopping, it'd be no problem.>>>
I believe that plane was an A-6 intruder, which means Navy.>>
Close. It was a Marine EA-6B Prowler:>>
And the pilot knew almost exactly where he was, to within a few> crucial feet.

I don't think anything happened to the guy, despite his having caused
the deaths of about 20 people. Imagine having that on your conscience.
And I don't think the US paid compensation, either.

Dave
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TexasSkiNut 10 March 2005 02:58:32 permanent link ]
 
Dave Stallard wrote:>[snip]> >>http://www.cnn.co­m/WORLD/9802/03/ital­y.cablecar.update2/>­[snip]> > And the pilot knew almost exactly where he was, to within a few> > crucial feet.>
I don't think anything happened to the guy, despite his having caused
the deaths of about 20 people. Imagine having that on your
conscience.> And I don't think the US paid compensation, either.

The pilot and co-pilot were court-martialed and acquitted. They were
then court-martialed again for destroying a videotape that had been
made during the flight. Both were dismissed from the Marines and the
pilot served 6 months.

Details:
http://www.historyc­hannel.com/exhibits/­military_blunders/mb­_cc.html

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Randy Bryan 10 March 2005 08:37:48 permanent link ]
 Primarily because Marine pilots don't use either Garmin or Magellan
proprietary brands of nav equipment. They have hand-held compasses,
sextants and stars to guide them. When they fail, the pilots use the
smell of blood to guide them.
Or beer. I can't remember which.


Dave Stallard wrote:> bdubya wrote:>
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:05:20 -0500, Dave Stallard>> <stallard@nospam.ev­er> wrote:>>
Dave Stallard wrote:>>>
Mary Malmros wrote:>>>>
No, they haven't been stopping, that's the point. Remember the one >>>>> that aimlessly meandered into the cable of that tram in Italy a few >>>>> years back? If they were stopping, it'd be no problem.>>>>
I believe that plane was an A-6 intruder, which means Navy.>>>
Close. It was a Marine EA-6B Prowler:>>>
And the pilot knew almost exactly where he was, to within a few>> crucial feet. >
I don't think anything happened to the guy, despite his having caused > the deaths of about 20 people. Imagine having that on your conscience. > And I don't think the US paid compensation, either.>
Dave
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