Well, just got the boots. Much to my pleasant suprise, the wide actually had a wide enough toe box! After heat molding they already feel better than my custom Klingbeils ever have, snug with no slip and no rubbing spots yet. The hinge works well but is a little stiff. You lace the bottom and tighten a wire in a series of loops by twisting a nob in back to tighten the top. This is an excellent design because you have a LOT of ankle movement but the tongue essentially stays in place on your foot and lower leg throughout the range of motion without any movement! There is NO pronation or supination of the ankle. Padding is excellent especially at the Achiles and around the top edge. IMHO that really excess padding at the top edge is the only "ugly" feature of the boot. The hinge isn't noticeable and the nob at the back is farely flat, about 3/16" or 3mm thick. Getting in requires some manouvering of the tongue, you have to pull it back rather than just jam your foot in. The tongue is foam rubber lined. All in all the most comfortable pair of skates I've ever worn and these are brand new!
Now the bad news. I also bought the new Ultima blade system that uses an Aluminum mount to hold the steel runners. Coooooool - rather like a hockey blade design. about half the weight of regular blades. You have to remove the blade from the mount to sharpen it. BUT the screws that hold the blade to the mount were frozen and the hex hole at the top stripped out of 3 screws! Interestingly, they came with a bottle of Locktight, so there may be a problem with them loosening during skating. So I can't try them until the new mounts come in, sigh! I'll keep you posted of new developments, meanwhile, time to build up those weak calves - flex, extend, flex, extend,,,,,,, Lyle
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:17:50 -0400, "Lyle Walsh" <walshlgNOSPAM@knologyNOSPAM.net> wrote:
BUT the screws that hold the blade >to the mount were frozen and the hex hole at the top stripped out of 3 >screws! Interestingly, they came with a bottle of Locktight, so there may >be a problem with them loosening during skating.
The boots sound interesting, hope they skate well, be good to hear how you get on. On the Locktite issue - don't know if you realise that the stuff softens with heating, and a hot air gun can be used to heat up the bonded thread prior to disassembly. There are different grades, in theory the medium strength stuff should undo without heat, though it might help. The locking grade stuff gives a permanent bond that you can only undo with heat.
"Steve" <steve@deletethissjwilliams.com> wrote in message news:u872a217sqog23ecvdg1fn7cdqapnv10hd@4ax.com...> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:17:50 -0400, "Lyle Walsh"> <walshlgNOSPAM@knologyNOSPAM.net> wrote:>
BUT the screws that hold the blade>>to the mount were frozen and the hex hole at the top stripped out of 3>>screws! Interestingly, they came with a bottle of Locktight, so there may>>be a problem with them loosening during skating.>
The boots sound interesting, hope they skate well, be good to hear how> you get on. On the Locktite issue - don't know if you realise that the> stuff softens with heating, and a hot air gun can be used to heat up> the bonded thread prior to disassembly. There are different grades,> in theory the medium strength stuff should undo without heat, though> it might help. The locking grade stuff gives a permanent bond that> you can only undo with heat.>
Steve
DoooHHHH!!! now they tell me! I wonder if heating the blade mount would soften the heatmoldable upper? Thanks, I appreciate any pointers. One thing that DID NOT COME with the boot is a set of instructions, NONE! Luckily the dial wheel and cable system has been used for years in kids hockey skates so the pro knew that you pull back on the dial to loosen them. Lyle
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:15:36 -0400, "Lyle Walsh" <walshlgNOSPAM@knologyNOSPAM.net> wrote:
Thanks, I appreciate any pointers. One thing that DID NOT COME with the >boot is a set of instructions, NONE!
Sheesh, sounds like they've taken ice boots from merely being footwear into the high-tech domain, and you surely *need* some instructions! An issue the company needs to address I guess.
On 1 Jul 2006 09:04:38 -0700, "Gonna Skate" <gonnaskate@aol.com> wrote:
Steve, watch yourself in the old boots. You're likely to snag an edge>on a 3 turn or spin and twist your ankle. Or you might be lucky and>just fall off the edge when the boot collapses under your weight. As I>recall, you burned through those 220s pretty fast, so you obviously>don't use them gently...
Thanks for the warning. Don't suppose I skate all that gently now. Maybe this should be done with caution if at all! I think the lack of edge control with soft boots would be a potential irritaion for dance, regardless of other factors, I'm used to Goldstar stiffness now...
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