Bobs' authentic All Blacks team. No bias to speak of
Bobs 1 May 2005 08:14:37
15. Mils Muliania 14. Doug Howlett 13. Conrad Smith 12. Tana Umaga (c) 11. Joe Rokocoko 10. Daniel Carter 9. Byron Keleher 8. Mose Tuiali'i 7. Richard McCaw (vc) 6. Jerome Kaino 5. Chris Jack 4. Whathisname Ryan 3. Carl Hayman 2. Anton Oliver 1. Tony Woodcock
26. Fairy Nonu 25. Nick Evans 24. Steve Devine 23. Aaron Mauger 22. Ali Williams 21. Xavier Rush 20. Josh Blackie 19. Jerry Collins 18. Keven Mealamu 17. Carl Hoeft 16. Greg Sommerville
No room for Meg who has said he's going after the Lions. Doesn't deserve a spot anyway. Mehrtens is a doormat. Braid is too small. Thorne is just rubbish.
"Bobs" <blah@extra.co.nz> wrote in message news:SIYce.2563$Od6.393820@news.xtra.co.nz...> 15. Mils Muliania> 14. Doug Howlett> 13. Conrad Smith> 12. Tana Umaga (c)> 11. Joe Rokocoko> 10. Daniel Carter> 9. Byron Keleher> 8. Mose Tuiali'i> 7. Richard McCaw (vc)> 6. Jerome Kaino> 5. Chris Jack> 4. Whathisname Ryan> 3. Carl Hayman> 2. Anton Oliver> 1. Tony Woodcock>
26. Fairy Nonu> 25. Nick Evans> 24. Steve Devine> 23. Aaron Mauger> 22. Ali Williams> 21. Xavier Rush> 20. Josh Blackie> 19. Jerry Collins> 18. Keven Mealamu> 17. Carl Hoeft> 16. Greg Sommerville
Good picks. But a few maybes: McDonald maybe as Fullback with Mils as super sub. Meg as run on Half. Byron to sub on when Meg starts to get loose. Gibbes or Thorne as Lock/Blindside reserve.
Everything else looks good, especially Carter/Umaga/Smith 10/12/13.
You know bobby boy, if you hadn't put this clown in you could have passed that off as a serious attempt. He doesn't even rank in the top 5 anymore. I'd even have Nonu ahead of him for fucks sake..
"Bobs" <blah@extra.co.nz> wrote in message news:SIYce.2563$Od6.393820@news.xtra.co.nz...> 15. Mils Muliania> 14. Doug Howlett> 13. Conrad Smith> 12. Tana Umaga (c)> 11. Joe Rokocoko> 10. Daniel Carter> 9. Byron Keleher> 8. Mose Tuiali'i> 7. Richard McCaw (vc)> 6. Jerome Kaino> 5. Chris Jack> 4. Whathisname Ryan> 3. Carl Hayman> 2. Anton Oliver> 1. Tony Woodcock>
26. Fairy Nonu> 25. Nick Evans> 24. Steve Devine> 23. Aaron Mauger> 22. Ali Williams> 21. Xavier Rush> 20. Josh Blackie> 19. Jerry Collins> 18. Keven Mealamu> 17. Carl Hoeft> 16. Greg Sommerville>
No room for Meg who has said he's going after the Lions. Doesn't deserve a > spot anyway. Mehrtens is a doormat. Braid is too small. Thorne is just > rubbish.
Yes Sir That's the team alright,but I'd like to see a place for Rico Gear, Sivivatu, and Mc Alister as reserves.
"shineything" <shineything@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1114923047.566857.121200@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...>
Bobs wrote:>> 15. Mils Muliania>> 14. Doug Howlett>> 13. Conrad Smith>> 12. Tana Umaga (c)>> 11. Joe Rokocoko>> 10. Daniel Carter>> 9. Byron Keleher>> 8. Mose Tuiali'i>> 7. Richard McCaw (vc)>> 6. Jerome Kaino>> 5. Chris Jack>> 4. Whathisname Ryan>> 3. Carl Hayman>> 2. Anton Oliver>> 1. Tony Woodcock>>
26. Fairy Nonu>> 25. Nick Evans>> 24. Steve Devine>> 23. Aaron Mauger>> 22. Ali Williams>> 21. Xavier Rush>> 20. Josh Blackie>> 19. Jerry Collins>> 18. Keven Mealamu>> 17. Carl Hoeft>> 16. Greg Sommerville>>
No room for Meg who has said he's going after the Lions. Doesn't> deserve>> a spot anyway. Mehrtens is a doormat. Braid is too small. Thorne is> just>> rubbish.>
Surprise surprise, Boobs' squad just happens to consist of 50% more> Blues than any other NZ team. He obviously sees something in them they> don't see in themselves.>
Mauger in the reserves and no Marshall at all. LOL.
In Maugers case he could well be right. With the AB captain likely to be Umaga, Maugers fortunes depend on where they decise to play him.
On Sun, 1 May 2005 16:59:13 +1000, "Matua" <Matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote:
"Bobs" <blah@extra.co.nz> wrote in message >news:SIYce.2563$Od6.393820@news.xtra.co.nz...>> 15. Mils Muliania>> 14. Doug Howlett>> 13. Conrad Smith>> 12. Tana Umaga (c)>> 11. Joe Rokocoko>> 10. Daniel Carter>> 9. Byron Keleher>> 8. Mose Tuiali'i>> 7. Richard McCaw (vc)>> 6. Jerome Kaino>> 5. Chris Jack>> 4. Whathisname Ryan>> 3. Carl Hayman>> 2. Anton Oliver>> 1. Tony Woodcock>>
26. Fairy Nonu>> 25. Nick Evans>> 24. Steve Devine>> 23. Aaron Mauger>> 22. Ali Williams>> 21. Xavier Rush>> 20. Josh Blackie>> 19. Jerry Collins>> 18. Keven Mealamu>> 17. Carl Hoeft>> 16. Greg Sommerville>>
No room for Meg who has said he's going after the Lions. Doesn't deserve a >> spot anyway. Mehrtens is a doormat. Braid is too small. Thorne is just >> rubbish.>
Yes Sir That's the team alright,but I'd like to see a place for Rico Gear, >Sivivatu, and Mc Alister as reserves.>
Cheers Matua. >
Rico Gear is a shoo in to take Howletts place in the 15 IMHO.
-- ** Col **
"God is dead." -Nietzsche "Nietzsche is dead." -God
"Col`" <Col@Extra.con> wrote in message news:n450Qlz=T2TcjgIb5ElPdLTsSiuo@4ax.com...> On Sun, 1 May 2005 16:59:13 +1000, "Matua" <Matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote:>
"Bobs" <blah@extra.co.nz> wrote in message>>news:SIYce.2563$Od6.393820@news.xtra.co.nz...>>> 15. Mils Muliania>>> 14. Doug Howlett>>> 13. Conrad Smith>>> 12. Tana Umaga (c)>>> 11. Joe Rokocoko>>> 10. Daniel Carter>>> 9. Byron Keleher>>> 8. Mose Tuiali'i>>> 7. Richard McCaw (vc)>>> 6. Jerome Kaino>>> 5. Chris Jack>>> 4. Whathisname Ryan>>> 3. Carl Hayman>>> 2. Anton Oliver>>> 1. Tony Woodcock>>>
26. Fairy Nonu>>> 25. Nick Evans>>> 24. Steve Devine>>> 23. Aaron Mauger>>> 22. Ali Williams>>> 21. Xavier Rush>>> 20. Josh Blackie>>> 19. Jerry Collins>>> 18. Keven Mealamu>>> 17. Carl Hoeft>>> 16. Greg Sommerville>>>
No room for Meg who has said he's going after the Lions. Doesn't deserve >>> a>>> spot anyway. Mehrtens is a doormat. Braid is too small. Thorne is just>>> rubbish.>>
Yes Sir That's the team alright,but I'd like to see a place for Rico Gear,>>Sivivatu, and Mc Alister as reserves.>>
Cheers Matua.>>
Rico Gear is a shoo in to take Howletts place in the 15 IMHO.>
--> ** Col **>
"God is dead." -Nietzsche> "Nietzsche is dead." -God>
Sorry Col, But you will lose the bet.. Deadly Dougie will be there.
In Maugers case he could well be right. With the AB captain likely to be > Umaga, Maugers fortunes depend on where they decise to play him.>
Bar injury it's Umaga. And I think Henry's given a pretty clear indication that 'experience' will be a major factor in selection for the Lions. And we've only really got one experienced center, Umaga.
"Col`" <Col@Extra.con> wrote in message news:uq50QiRJ57H130F4yJYBMnp4x7fs@4ax.com...> On Sun, 1 May 2005 18:14:56 +1000, "Matua" <Matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote:>
Rico Gear is a shoo in to take Howletts place in the 15 IMHO.>>>
-->>> ** Col **>>>
"God is dead." -Nietzsche>>> "Nietzsche is dead." -God>>>
Sorry Col, But you will lose the bet.. Deadly Dougie will be there.>>
Matua.>
I will wait and see before I conmcede. Duggie is playing like a girl's > blouse> --> ** Col **>
"God is dead." -Nietzsche> "Nietzsche is dead." -God>
But you said Rico Gear is a shoo in ? Now you will wait and see huh?
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1bf971pm10rbn8cml467mm7uhnjdac15j1@4ax.com...> On Sun, 1 May 2005 14:35:49 +1000, "Uncle Bully"> <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>
Good picks. But a few maybes:>>McDonald maybe as Fullback with Mils as super sub.>
So you pick the better player on the bench because he can cover more> positions?
I think McDonald has been outstanding for the Crusaders, and Auckland are losing.
Ryan's great, but FFS! this is his FIRST S12 season!! Too early for him. I'd pick Maxwell, Robinson, Gibbes first.
3. Carl Hayman> 2. Anton Oliver> 1. Tony Woodcock
Hoeft or Sommerville. TW isn't that strong a scrumamger and offers less than Sommerville with ball in hand. And that Tash! Jeezus wept! Are there predatory attack caterpillers up in Auckland or what? 'Cause there sure as hell better be *SOME* explaination for that facial hair abomination...
26. Fairy Nonu> 25. Nick Evans> 24. Steve Devine
Weepu. Devine's not even a halfback's ballsack.
23. Aaron Mauger> 22. Ali Williams
Only because we have fuckall choice.
21. Xavier Rush> 20. Josh Blackie> 19. Jerry Collins
Kaino on the bench.
18. Keven Mealamu
Would prefer Flynn.
17. Carl Hoeft
Woodcock.
16. Greg Sommerville>
No room for Meg who has said he's going after the Lions. Doesn't deserve > a spot anyway. Mehrtens is a doormat. Braid is too small. Thorne is just > rubbish.
On Sun, 1 May 2005 22:29:26 +1000, "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:1bf971pm10rbn8cml467mm7uhnjdac15j1@4ax.com...>> On Sun, 1 May 2005 14:35:49 +1000, "Uncle Bully">> <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>>
Good picks. But a few maybes:>>>McDonald maybe as Fullback with Mils as super sub.>>
So you pick the better player on the bench because he can cover more>> positions?>
I think McDonald has been outstanding for the Crusaders, and Auckland are >losing.
Indeed, Auckland are on a massive one-game losing streak, and are 6-3 on the season.
You would do well to gain a passing acquaintance with the facts before talking.
On Sun, 1 May 2005 21:21:27 +1000, "Matua" <Matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote:
"Col`" <Col@Extra.con> wrote in message >news:uq50QiRJ57H130F4yJYBMnp4x7fs@4ax.com...>> On Sun, 1 May 2005 18:14:56 +1000, "Matua" <Matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote:>>
Rico Gear is a shoo in to take Howletts place in the 15 IMHO.>>>>
-->>>> ** Col **>>>>
"God is dead." -Nietzsche>>>> "Nietzsche is dead." -God>>>>
Sorry Col, But you will lose the bet.. Deadly Dougie will be there.>>>
Matua.>>
I will wait and see before I conmcede. Duggie is playing like a girl's >> blouse>> -->> ** Col **>>
"God is dead." -Nietzsche>> "Nietzsche is dead." -God>>
But you said Rico Gear is a shoo in ?>Now you will wait and see huh?>
Matua. >
Of course. Henry may have to drop Roco if Duggie is chosen .
-- ** Col **
"God is dead." -Nietzsche "Nietzsche is dead." -God
"Col`" <Col@Extra.con> wrote in message news:dyZ1QpJ8QClpGq8rW1qYxHvqURij@4ax.com...> On Sun, 1 May 2005 21:21:27 +1000, "Matua" <Matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote:>
"Col`" <Col@Extra.con> wrote in message>>news:uq50QiRJ57H130F4yJYBMnp4x7fs@4ax.com...>>> On Sun, 1 May 2005 18:14:56 +1000, "Matua" <Matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote:>>>
Rico Gear is a shoo in to take Howletts place in the 15 IMHO.>>>>>
-->>>>> ** Col **>>>>>
"God is dead." -Nietzsche>>>>> "Nietzsche is dead." -God>>>>>
Sorry Col, But you will lose the bet.. Deadly Dougie will be there.>>>>
Matua.>>>
I will wait and see before I conmcede. Duggie is playing like a girl's>>> blouse>>> -->>> ** Col **>>>
"God is dead." -Nietzsche>>> "Nietzsche is dead." -God>>>
But you said Rico Gear is a shoo in ?>>Now you will wait and see huh?>>
Matua.>>
Of course. Henry may have to drop Roco if Duggie is chosen . >
--> ** Col **>
"God is dead." -Nietzsche> "Nietzsche is dead." -God>
Dont think so Col, if anything Rico will be a reserve.
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3rn9711u4j8nco3aruc4894li2uiu2djre@4ax.com...> On Sun, 1 May 2005 22:29:26 +1000, "Uncle Bully"> <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message>>news:1bf971pm10rbn8cml467mm7uhnjdac15j1@4ax.com...>>> On Sun, 1 May 2005 14:35:49 +1000, "Uncle Bully">>> <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>>>
Good picks. But a few maybes:>>>>McDonald maybe as Fullback with Mils as super sub.>>>
So you pick the better player on the bench because he can cover more>>> positions?>>
I think McDonald has been outstanding for the Crusaders, and Auckland are>>losing.>
Indeed, Auckland are on a massive one-game losing streak, and are 6-3 on> the season.>
You would do well to gain a passing acquaintance with the facts before> talking.
So Auckland aren't losing? Which part of that isn't fact?
On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:05:41 +1000, "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:3rn9711u4j8nco3aruc4894li2uiu2djre@4ax.com...>> On Sun, 1 May 2005 22:29:26 +1000, "Uncle Bully">> <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
I think McDonald has been outstanding for the Crusaders, and Auckland are>>>losing.>>
Indeed, Auckland are on a massive one-game losing streak, and are 6-3 on>> the season.>>
You would do well to gain a passing acquaintance with the facts before>> talking.>
So Auckland aren't losing? Which part of that isn't fact?
The part where they've won twice as many as they've lost. Now please stop posting. I can only correspond with so many idiots at once.
On Mon, 02 May 2005 06:01:12 +0800, rick boyd <boyd@comswest.net.au> wrote:
Bobs wrote:>> 15. Mils Muliania>> 14. Doug Howlett>> 13. Conrad Smith>> 12. Tana Umaga (c)>> 11. Joe Rokocoko>> 10. Daniel Carter>> 9. Byron Keleher>> 8. Mose Tuiali'i>> 7. Richard McCaw (vc)>> 6. Jerome Kaino>> 5. Chris Jack>> 4. Whathisname Ryan>> 3. Carl Hayman>> 2. Anton Oliver>> 1. Tony Woodcock>
With the exception of Collins at 6, (and Mauger at 12, but that's >probably asking too much) that's about how I'd call it too.
I can't see the fascination with Aaron Mauger. I prefer second-fives who can tackle - it's this funny prejudice I've got. If I had $5 for everytime I've seen Mauger have an air-swing/miss an arm-grab tackle just in this S12 I'd be a very rich man.
Uncle Bully wrote:> "Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1bf971pm10rbn8cml467mm7uhnjdac15j1@4ax.com...>
On Sun, 1 May 2005 14:35:49 +1000, "Uncle Bully">><wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>>
Good picks. But a few maybes:>>>McDonald maybe as Fullback with Mils as super sub.>>
So you pick the better player on the bench because he can cover more>>positions?>
I think McDonald has been outstanding for the Crusaders, and Auckland are > losing.>
Well, so are the Chiefs and Highlanders, cretin. So there goes Oliver, Hayman, Keleher, Blackie and half the AB team.
I mean really, what kind of logic is that? No All Blacks from a losing team? What happens if the AB's lose? Could be a bit of a shitter. That's one hell of a lack of job security. LOL.
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:9ova71dhidlhmnpqrd1m11kgt5002d3fuf@4ax.com...> On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:05:41 +1000, "Uncle Bully"> <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message>>news:3rn9711u4j8nco3aruc4894li2uiu2djre@4ax.com...>>> On Sun, 1 May 2005 22:29:26 +1000, "Uncle Bully">>> <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>
I think McDonald has been outstanding for the Crusaders, and Auckland >>>>are>>>>losing.>>>
Indeed, Auckland are on a massive one-game losing streak, and are 6-3 on>>> the season.>>>
You would do well to gain a passing acquaintance with the facts before>>> talking.>>
So Auckland aren't losing? Which part of that isn't fact?>
The part where they've won twice as many as they've lost. Now please stop> posting. I can only correspond with so many idiots at once.
So losing isn't counted as losing?
FYI:
lose ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lz) v. lost, (lôst, lst) los·ing, los·es v. intr. 1. To suffer loss. 2. To be defeated. 3. To operate or run slow. Used of a timepiece.
On Mon, 2 May 2005 18:49:49 +1000, "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:9ova71dhidlhmnpqrd1m11kgt5002d3fuf@4ax.com...>> On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:05:41 +1000, "Uncle Bully">> <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>>
So Auckland aren't losing? Which part of that isn't fact?>>
The part where they've won twice as many as they've lost. Now please stop>> posting. I can only correspond with so many idiots at once.>
So losing isn't counted as losing?>
FYI:>
lose ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lz)>v. lost, (lôst, lst) los·ing, los·es>v. intr.>1. To suffer loss.>2. To be defeated.>3. To operate or run slow. Used of a timepiece.>
Call me a frivolous wing, but I prefer an attacking inside centre who> can slip the defence to a nuggety crasher of the ball/hammer tackler.>
Even if I criticise Jonah for being a turnstile out wide, which might> give the impression that I favour defence over attack -- and even> conceding that the role of inside centre has changed to first ruck> creator and assistant openside flanker...>
Mauger is a reasonable tackler and when he's good on attack, he's very,> very good. With Mauger looking in reasonable form and Smith growing> daily, this All Black team has the makings of a red hot back line, the> likes of which we have not seen since 1997.>
I fully expect Umaga to start at inside centre and we could do a lot> worse, but I will never rate Umaga as a centre. He's steady and> experienced, but he just doesn't have the centre gene.
Somewhere roughly equidistant between sunny Perth and dour Christchurch there are people with fond memories of Mauger's defensive effort in RWC03. Is it more than a fitness thing with him? He's looked very good in dominant company but would you take him into the trenches with you?
You've very nearly given Umaga enough credit, but let's just say he's a feared opponent wherever he lines up. Joost vdW was not a classic 9. Tim Horan was not a classic 12. But were they ever fantastic competitors.
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:chrb719hd9d3dorq4jccfbv33lkc1d6kjr@4ax.com...> On Mon, 2 May 2005 18:49:49 +1000, "Uncle Bully"> <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message>>news:9ova71dhidlhmnpqrd1m11kgt5002d3fuf@4ax.com...>>> On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:05:41 +1000, "Uncle Bully">>> <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>>>
So Auckland aren't losing? Which part of that isn't fact?>>>
The part where they've won twice as many as they've lost. Now please >>> stop>>> posting. I can only correspond with so many idiots at once.>>
So losing isn't counted as losing?>>
FYI:>>
lose ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lz)>>v. lost, (lôst, lst) los·ing, los·es>>v. intr.>>1. To suffer loss.>>2. To be defeated.>>3. To operate or run slow. Used of a timepiece.>>
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:9ova71dhidlhmnpqrd1m11kgt5002d3fuf@4ax.com...>
On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:05:41 +1000, "Uncle Bully">><wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>>
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message>>>news:3rn9711u4j8nco3aruc4894li2uiu2djre@4ax.com...>>>
On Sun, 1 May 2005 22:29:26 +1000, "Uncle Bully">>>><wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>>
I think McDonald has been outstanding for the Crusaders, and Auckland >>>>>are>>>>>losing.>>>>
Indeed, Auckland are on a massive one-game losing streak, and are 6-3 on>>>>the season.>>>>
You would do well to gain a passing acquaintance with the facts before>>>>talking.>>>
So Auckland aren't losing? Which part of that isn't fact?>>
The part where they've won twice as many as they've lost. Now please stop>>posting. I can only correspond with so many idiots at once.>
So losing isn't counted as losing?>
FYI:>
lose ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lz)> v. lost, (lôst, lst) los·ing, los·es> v. intr.> 1. To suffer loss.> 2. To be defeated.> 3. To operate or run slow. Used of a timepiece.>
I beleive I'm covered by both defs 1 & 2.>
Under your definition then, ALL the teams are losing since none is unbeaten. Clearly people use the word to distinguish cases from each other, not to lump all teams as loosers. IOW, your use of the word is absurd.
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1bf971pm10rbn8cml467mm7uhnjdac15j1@4ax.com...>>
On Sun, 1 May 2005 14:35:49 +1000, "Uncle Bully">>> <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>>>
Good picks. But a few maybes:>>>> McDonald maybe as Fullback with Mils as super sub.>>>
So you pick the better player on the bench because he can cover more>>> positions?>>
I think McDonald has been outstanding for the Crusaders, and Auckland >> are losing.>>
Well, so are the Chiefs and Highlanders, cretin. So there goes Oliver, > Hayman, Keleher, Blackie and half the AB team.>
I mean really, what kind of logic is that? No All Blacks from a losing > team? What happens if the AB's lose? Could be a bit of a shitter. That's > one hell of a lack of job security. LOL.
Well, all the NZ S12 teams have losses so I guess using UB logic, we can't pick ANYONE.
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:chrb719hd9d3dorq4jccfbv33lkc1d6kjr@4ax.com...>
On Mon, 2 May 2005 18:49:49 +1000, "Uncle Bully">><wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>>
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message>>>news:9ova71dhidlhmnpqrd1m11kgt5002d3fuf@4ax.com...>>>
On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:05:41 +1000, "Uncle Bully">>>><wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>>>>
So Auckland aren't losing? Which part of that isn't fact?>>>>
The part where they've won twice as many as they've lost. Now please >>>>stop>>>>posting. I can only correspond with so many idiots at once.>>>
So losing isn't counted as losing?>>>
FYI:>>>
lose ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lz)>>>v. lost, (lôst, lst) los·ing, los·es>>>v. intr.>>>1. To suffer loss.>>>2. To be defeated.>>>3. To operate or run slow. Used of a timepiece.>>>
I beleive I'm covered by both defs 1 & 2.>>
Do you believe in fairies as well?>
you're getting desperate now...>
Have you actually *read* what you're trying to argue?
In article Peter Ashford <me@here.there.com> wrote:
5. Chris Jack> > 4. Whathisname Ryan>
Ryan's great, but FFS! this is his FIRST S12 season!! Too early for > him. I'd pick Maxwell, Robinson, Gibbes first.
Maxwell pretty much admitted on TV3 news tonight that he has one foot on the plane. He didn't seem that interested in the Lions series. Either Henry and co change his mind or Williams is the only realistic option to partner Jack. Not ideal but I can't see a rookie being thrown to the Lions. Gibbes/Thorne would then be on the bench.
3. Carl Hayman> > 2. Anton Oliver> > 1. Tony Woodcock>
Hoeft or Sommerville. TW isn't that strong a scrumamger and offers less > than Sommerville with ball in hand.
Which would explain why the Blues scrum held up well against the Bulls while the Crusaders' went backwards against the same opposition? No one says Afoa is a great scrummager so Woodcock must be doing something right! Somerville will be the reserve prop as he has shown some ability to play LH.
On Tue, 03 May 2005 00:34:43 +1200, Paul Kendall <paulkendall@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
In article Peter Ashford <me@here.there.com> wrote:
Hoeft or Sommerville. TW isn't that strong a scrumamger and offers less >> than Sommerville with ball in hand. >
Which would explain why the Blues scrum held up well against the Bulls >while the Crusaders' went backwards against the same opposition? No one >says Afoa is a great scrummager so Woodcock must be doing something >right! Somerville will be the reserve prop as he has shown some ability >to play LH.
Woodcock also did a pretty good job against the French scrum last year. I'd be surprised if he is not the starting loosehead prop for the ABs at this point.
On Tue, 3 May 2005 07:07:00 +1200, "Mr Scebe" <Mr_Scebe@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:chrb719hd9d3dorq4jccfbv33lkc1d6kjr@4ax.com...>
Do you believe in fairies as well?>
Presuming that you exist, i suppose he does.
No, Neill, I don't exist. I'm a figment of your imagination. I'll give you credit though - other people have imaginary friends; you have imaginary antagonists. Novel, but probably speaks to one of your many deep-seated emotional problems.
3. Carl Hayman>>>2. Anton Oliver>>>1. Tony Woodcock>>
Hoeft or Sommerville. TW isn't that strong a scrumamger and offers less >>than Sommerville with ball in hand. >
Which would explain why the Blues scrum held up well against the Bulls > while the Crusaders' went backwards against the same opposition? No one > says Afoa is a great scrummager so Woodcock must be doing something > right! Somerville will be the reserve prop as he has shown some ability > to play LH.>
"Alan Luchetti" <not@home> wrote in message > news:4275f5fe$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au...>
Somewhere roughly equidistant between sunny Perth and dour Christchurch >>there are people with fond memories of Mauger's defensive effort in RWC03. >>Is it more than a fitness thing with him? He's looked very good in >>dominant company but would you take him into the trenches with you?>
Mauger was injured before the RWC and shouldn't have gone. If there's one > criticism of the Mitchell/Deans era,
Only one?
they took players who were injured into> the World Cup campaign. Now that Mauger has regained his fitness after > injury, normal service has resumed - he is an exceptional talent,
Yes, that's true
and should> be the starting second five.>
I expect to see Carter, Smith, Umaga. Not that Mauger is at all deficient, but Umaga is very likely to be there which makes Smith all the more likely as well.
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:rivc719idqfh8q3rl0usqiragv12liis0g@4ax.com...> On Tue, 3 May 2005 07:07:00 +1200, "Mr Scebe" <Mr_Scebe@nowhere.com> > wrote:>
"Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message>>news:chrb719hd9d3dorq4jccfbv33lkc1d6kjr@4ax.com...>>
Do you believe in fairies as well?>>
Presuming that you exist, i suppose he does.>
No, Neill, I don't exist. I'm a figment of your imagination. I'll give> you credit though - other people have imaginary friends; you have > imaginary> antagonists. Novel, but probably speaks to one of your many deep-seated> emotional problems.
Amazing, another throwaway line, and you can't help responding with a three act play. Though it's more Ibsen than Shakespeare, that's for sure.
-- Mr Scebe "Pershonally i think you're a fucking idiot" ~Sean Connery in "The Rock"
lose ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lz)> v. lost, (lôst, lst) los·ing, los·es> v. intr.> 1. To suffer loss.> 2. To be defeated.> 3. To operate or run slow. Used of a timepiece.>
I beleive I'm covered by both defs 1 & 2.>
Buckaduck. They're all at it now.
Incidentally you're wrong - losing (in a series) is having lost more than you have won. Bit like points in a single game.
Under your definition then, ALL the teams are losing since none is > unbeaten. Clearly people use the word to distinguish cases from each > other, not to lump all teams as loosers. IOW, your use of the word is > absurd.
Uncle Bully, long known to be Rick's lapdog, has tried to re-invent words in the same way his much adored master has done in the past. Unfortunately with a brain the size of a pea, BullyBoy makes a very poor show of it. As expected.
"Bobs" <blah@extra.co.nz> wrote in message news6ide.2918$Od6.425179@news.xtra.co.nz...> Uncle Bully wrote:>> "Brent" <the_1aser@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1bf971pm10rbn8cml467mm7uhnjdac15j1@4ax.com...>>
On Sun, 1 May 2005 14:35:49 +1000, "Uncle Bully">>><wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:>>>
Good picks. But a few maybes:>>>>McDonald maybe as Fullback with Mils as super sub.>>>
So you pick the better player on the bench because he can cover more>>>positions?>>
I think McDonald has been outstanding for the Crusaders, and Auckland are >> losing.>>
Well, so are the Chiefs and Highlanders, cretin. So there goes Oliver, > Hayman, Keleher, Blackie and half the AB team.>
Jeez do I have to spell out every fucking post?
When two reasonably equal players are competing for a spot, then the player in the most winningest team should get preference. I'm not writing out a fucking national constitution here, forgive me if I'm light on specifics but for fucks sake use a bit of imagination. Just as you pick Mils, I pick McDonald. Perhaps I should give no reason in fututre, would that make you happy?
Sheesh, you can tell there's not much going on when you nit pick this...
I mean really, what kind of logic is that? No All Blacks from a losing > team? What happens if the AB's lose? Could be a bit of a shitter. That's > one hell of a lack of job security. LOL.
Uncle Bully wrote:> "Sean Byrne" <byrne_sean_spamtrap_@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:d5aais$8nj$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...>
Uncle Bully wrote:>>
When two reasonably equal players are competing for a spot, then the>>>player in the most winningest team should get preference.>>
So you'd pick a player riding on the coat tails of a winning side over>>one who stands out in a beaten team?>
No, why do you ask? >
Because thats effectively what you are proposing. A great player might well be swamped down in a bad team whereas an average player will look great because his team is giving him the breaks.
"Sean Byrne" <byrne_sean_spamtrap_@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:d5ahnp$456$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...> Uncle Bully wrote:>
"Sean Byrne" <byrne_sean_spamtrap_@hotmail.com> wrote in message>> news:d5aais$8nj$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...>>> Uncle Bully wrote:>>>
When two reasonably equal players are competing for a spot, then the>>>> player in the most winningest team should get preference.>>>
So you'd pick a player riding on the coat tails of a winning side>>> over one who stands out in a beaten team?>>
No, why do you ask?>
Because the only way you can judge if two players are 'reasonably equal'> is on their current form.>
If both players' form is similar, but one is hampered by a poor team, it> stands to reason he is in fact the better player.>
The crusaders v Hurricanes game will be a perfect example of this. The likely domination / annihilation of the Hurricanes tight 5 will make it very difficult to make comparisons in just about any other position due to the advantage the one side gains.
"Walter Mitty" <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote in message news:3drv5tF6umueiU1@uni-berlin.de...> Uncle Bully wrote:>> "Sean Byrne" <byrne_sean_spamtrap_@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:d5aais$8nj$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...>>
Uncle Bully wrote:>>>
When two reasonably equal players are competing for a spot, then the>>>>player in the most winningest team should get preference.>>>
So you'd pick a player riding on the coat tails of a winning side over>>>one who stands out in a beaten team?>>
No, why do you ask?>
Because thats effectively what you are proposing. A great player might > well be swamped down in a bad team whereas an average player will look > great because his team is giving him the breaks.>
Post Colonial Boy 8 May 2005 00:24:07 [ permanent link ]
On Sun, 01 May 2005 16:14:37 +1200, Bobs <blah@extra.co.nz> wrote:
15. Mils Muliania>14. Doug Howlett>13. Conrad Smith>12. Tana Umaga (c)>11. Joe Rokocoko>10. Daniel Carter>9. Byron Keleher>8. Mose Tuiali'i>7. Richard McCaw (vc)>6. Jerome Kaino>5. Chris Jack>4. Whathisname Ryan>3. Carl Hayman>2. Anton Oliver>1. Tony Woodcock>
26. Fairy Nonu>25. Nick Evans>24. Steve Devine>23. Aaron Mauger>22. Ali Williams>21. Xavier Rush>20. Josh Blackie>19. Jerry Collins>18. Keven Mealamu>17. Carl Hoeft>16. Greg Sommerville>
No room for Meg who has said he's going after the Lions. Doesn't deserve >a spot anyway. Mehrtens is a doormat. Braid is too small. Thorne is just >rubbish.
The team that several of those men play for beat the Auckland Blues thumpingly this year...
"Post Colonial Boy" <republican@email.com> wrote in message news:lt8q71p69ptp1c41pguh9e0atd8j9gfjl6@4ax.com...> On Sun, 01 May 2005 16:14:37 +1200, Bobs <blah@extra.co.nz> wrote:>
15. Mils Muliania>>14. Doug Howlett>>13. Conrad Smith>>12. Tana Umaga (c)>>11. Joe Rokocoko>>10. Daniel Carter>>9. Byron Keleher>>8. Mose Tuiali'i>>7. Richard McCaw (vc)>>6. Jerome Kaino>>5. Chris Jack>>4. Whathisname Ryan>>3. Carl Hayman>>2. Anton Oliver>>1. Tony Woodcock>>
26. Fairy Nonu>>25. Nick Evans>>24. Steve Devine>>23. Aaron Mauger>>22. Ali Williams>>21. Xavier Rush>>20. Josh Blackie>>19. Jerry Collins>>18. Keven Mealamu>>17. Carl Hoeft>>16. Greg Sommerville>>
No room for Meg who has said he's going after the Lions. Doesn't deserve>>a spot anyway. Mehrtens is a doormat. Braid is too small. Thorne is just>>rubbish.>
The team that several of those men play for beat the Auckland Blues> thumpingly this year...>
