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GYXU > Rugby > Re: Maxwell Sayonara? 1 May 2005 03:18:46

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Re: Maxwell Sayonara?

Peter Ashford 25 April 2005 16:39:01
 JohnO wrote:
Can't believe this is true, but if it is, it would take 'cheapening the> jersey' to a new level.>

why?
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Kip 26 April 2005 04:28:27 permanent link ]
 JohnO wrote:
Can't believe this is true, but if it is, it would take 'cheapening the> jersey' to a new level.>

How?

In Maxwells state he'd have put bugger all time in for the ABs anyway.
If he was a staple in Henry's selection plans then it just show how weak
we are.
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Kip 26 April 2005 04:41:00 permanent link ]
 Jolly wrote:
Why? Because he puts a Jap pacheck instead of playing for the AB's in a> series against the Lions.>

Which is different from every other player that buggers off for the end
of playing career retirement cash-in how?
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Peter Ashford 26 April 2005 06:12:32 permanent link ]
 Jolly wrote:
Why? Because he puts a Jap pacheck instead of playing for the AB's in a> series against the Lions.>

He's served the ABs well enough. His career is obviously not long now,
so why not cash in. He owes us no more.
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Kip 26 April 2005 06:36:15 permanent link ]
 Jolly wrote:
You know as well as I do that Maxwell would have been a starting lock> in anybody's AB picks, even if he only plays 60 minutes.>
He could have waited a few more months before heading of to the land of> the rising sun.>

Do I? From what I hear the guy is a walking injury. What if he played
the Lions, broke down with an injury and ended his playing days? I rekon
he's done enough to deserve to decide when he ends his AB days. And if
that means playing in a low-stress environment with some little jappers
then so be it.
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Peter Ashford 26 April 2005 06:51:20 permanent link ]
 JohnO wrote:
I'd agree with all of that, *after* the Lions tour.>
If he can last 50 minutes of a test against top tier nations there's no> reason why he can't play full club games in Japan for a few years yet.>
It's still not proven that he'll go before the Lions anyway.>

It'd be nice if he could stay - I'd certainly have him as my first
choice pick to partner Jack. But I could undertand why he might not
play if that meant jepardising his retirement. We don't *OWN* these
players and they don't owe us anything.
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Kip 26 April 2005 06:55:11 permanent link ]
 JohnO wrote:
Other than that I agree with you. And what's more, Thorne is *much*> worse lock than blindside. Last time he played there at test level he> was hopeless. This talk about him playing lock is a joke. He's the 3rd> choice blindside who could sub as a lock in emergencies at best. He'd> be about the 5th choice lock.>

So what's the form list for blindsides? And don't try talking up
Collins. All he's done this year is compound his status as a one
dimensional simpleton who'd be better off butting his empty head in the NRL.

The only player that could rank ahead of Thorne is Newby. And I'd be
happy with that.
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Kip 26 April 2005 07:00:04 permanent link ]
 Peter Ashford wrote:
It'd be nice if he could stay - I'd certainly have him as my first > choice pick to partner Jack. But I could undertand why he might not > play if that meant jepardising his retirement. We don't *OWN* these > players and they don't owe us anything.

They do *OWE* the NZRU anything that they agreed to in their contract.

One of these days the NZRU is going to test the strength of the contract
and deny an early release. Should be interesting when that happens.
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Peter Ashford 26 April 2005 08:04:53 permanent link ]
 Kip wrote:
Peter Ashford wrote:>
It'd be nice if he could stay - I'd certainly have him as my first >> choice pick to partner Jack. But I could undertand why he might not >> play if that meant jepardising his retirement. We don't *OWN* these >> players and they don't owe us anything.>
They do *OWE* the NZRU anything that they agreed to in their contract.>
One of these days the NZRU is going to test the strength of the contract > and deny an early release. Should be interesting when that happens.

Well, yeah, I agree with that. If the NZRFU has Maxwell contracted till
the Lion's tour, then they can insist he stays for it.
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Kip 26 April 2005 08:44:14 permanent link ]
 JohnO wrote:
The only player that could rank ahead of Thorne is Newby. And I'd be>>happy with that.>
Add Kaino to that list and you are onto it, Kippers.>

Done nothing, apart from get banned and prance about. Not even in the
same class yet.
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Col` 26 April 2005 08:48:53 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:04:53 +1200, Peter Ashford <me@here.there.com>­ wrote:
Kip wrote:>
Peter Ashford wrote:>>
It'd be nice if he could stay - I'd certainly have him as my first >>> choice pick to partner Jack. But I could undertand why he might not >>> play if that meant jepardising his retirement. We don't *OWN* these >>> players and they don't owe us anything.>>
They do *OWE* the NZRU anything that they agreed to in their contract.>>
One of these days the NZRU is going to test the strength of the contract >> and deny an early release. Should be interesting when that happens.>
Well, yeah, I agree with that. If the NZRFU has Maxwell contracted till >the Lion's tour, then they can insist he stays for it.

Possibly they wouldn't bother if Henry stated he had no use for a 50 minute lock
.

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** Col **

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"Nietzsche is dead." -God


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TomV 26 April 2005 08:50:25 permanent link ]
 On 25 Apr 2005 20:25:15 -0700, "JohnO" <johno1234@gmail.co­m> wrote:
The only player that could rank ahead of Thorne is Newby. And I'd be>> happy with that.>
Add Kaino to that list and you are onto it, Kippers.

Kaino's playing well but he looks too raw at this stage. I'd like to
see him get at least another season of S12 under his belt first

...tom
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Kip 26 April 2005 11:49:00 permanent link ]
 JohnO wrote:
Don't disagree with that, Tom. He's still head of Thorne though.>

No he wouldn't.
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Greig Blanchett 26 April 2005 15:17:49 permanent link ]
 On 25 Apr 2005 13:22:20 -0700, "shineything" <shineything@yahoo.­com>
wrote:
Greig Blanchett wrote:
[...]>>
Isn't it funny that you and Kip are ex-props yet you think you know>> what makes a good blindside?>
Just like you and halfbacks?

As an ex-loosie, I know a loose forward when I see one, and Marshall
is more of a loose forward than he is a half back.>
Anyway, everybody's an expert on everything in rsru...

Some of us are, certainly, but there's plenty of brain dead nitwits
out there who couldn't get a clue if they stood in a field full of
clues soused in clue pheronomes during clue rutting season.
[...]

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Matua 27 April 2005 08:24:42 permanent link ]
 
"JohnO" <johno1234@gmail.co­m> wrote in message
news:1114497824.311­982.309530@f14g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..> Don't disagree with that, Tom. He's still head of Thorne though.>

You're right there, miles ahead. Jerry Collins hasn't been playing that
well, but when he puts that black jersey on he's a beast.

Cheers Matua.


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Walter Mitty 27 April 2005 15:11:34 permanent link ]
 Greig Blanchett wrote:
Better sort out the sniffle there, Nik. It could lead to rust which> could prove disastrous to the well being of your tin foil dome.>

Crikey. You were a prop.

Tin Foil doesn't rust.
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Greig Blanchett 27 April 2005 22:51:33 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:11:34 +0200, Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com­>
wrote:
Greig Blanchett wrote:>
Better sort out the sniffle there, Nik. It could lead to rust which>> could prove disastrous to the well being of your tin foil dome.>>
Crikey. You were a prop.

You take that back!
Tin Foil doesn't rust.

If by tin foil, you actually mean aluminium foil, then correct, but
otherwise, wrongamundo.

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