Come on man. Seriously. Give it up. The dream is over. Collins, Kaino, Blackie, Holah, Lauaki, So'oialo, Braid, Newby, Gibbes, Bates, Ormond, etc etc etc will all be picked over him. The rest, fine, but enough of Thorne already.
Come on man. Seriously. Give it up. The dream is over. Collins, Kaino,> Blackie, Holah, Lauaki, So'oialo, Braid, Newby, Gibbes, Bates, Ormond, etc> etc etc will all be picked over him. The rest, fine, but enough of Thorne> already.>
True. All your players there are more popular. Given that's how Henry is running the show...
Kip wrote:> Here it is. You've all been waiting for it. The next AB 1st XV;>
1. Hoeft
Woodcock. Done nothing wrong and an 80 min man.
2. Oliver (vc)> 3. Hayman> 4. Ryan
Perhaps. But I'm keeping my eye on Bernie Upton. Looks hard nosed.
5. Jack> 6. Thorne
Collins. (But you had to try).
7. Blackie
And also means we need to look hard at Masoe as well.
8. Tuiali'i
Could be. But So'oialo is now a "made" No 8, is playing well and offers leadership.
9. Marshall> 10. Carter> 11. Rocko> 12. Mauger
I think Umaga's there or nowhere.
13. Umaga (c)
Smith/Laulala
14. Gear
Dougies got a few games to climb out of the pit. He'll do it, but it might come to the trial to sort out who finally goes ahead. Howlett also offers fullback experience.
15. MacDonald
Muliaina. On top of his game there for the ABs, is one of the genuine triers in the Blues and offers centre and wing in his CV.
um mccaw?? hes not gonna be out that long is he???>
That was a hell of a knock he took. He was out for the 3N last year for less. I'm guessing we won't see him until later in the year. Least I hope that, his jaw is looking more and more like glass.
8. Tuiali'i>
always like to see guys from my old school go well.. rodney??>
Tuiali'i is in commanding form. Can't see mop head getting in over him.
13. Umaga (c)>>14. Gear>
what about that flying fijian from the chiefs?>
What about him. They will select him, get him in a black jersey at least once early on, to stop the convicts from burgling him if nothing else.
"Kip" <rkippenberger@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:425f2d5f$1@clear.net.nz...> reprobate wrote:>
7. Blackie>>
um mccaw?? hes not gonna be out that long is he???>>
That was a hell of a knock he took. He was out for the 3N last year for > less. I'm guessing we won't see him until later in the year. Least I hope > that, his jaw is looking more and more like glass.>
8. Tuiali'i>>
always like to see guys from my old school go well.. rodney??>>
Tuiali'i is in commanding form. Can't see mop head getting in over him.>
13. Umaga (c)>>>14. Gear>>
what about that flying fijian from the chiefs?>>
What about him. They will select him, get him in a black jersey at least > once early on, to stop the convicts from burgling him if nothing else.
he is a freakshow.. probably score plenty of tries etc. wouldnt be upset if gear was there.. good cover for centre too..
"Kip" <rkippenberger@yahoo.com> wrote in message> news:425ef490@clear.net.nz...>> Here it is. You've all been waiting for it. The next AB 1st XV;>>
1. Hoeft
Dunno if Hoeft is an 80min man these days ... Still in absence of anyone else standing out I'd go Woodcock or Sommerville as well. Woodcock is a solid prop but Sommerville was looking the man until the Bulls game were he was soo CRAP - hopefully that was a one off.
2. Oliver (vc)>> 3. Hayman>> 4. Ryan
He looks to be one for the future but it would be a big risk and huge step up for Ryan. Could only see this happening if Henry was forced to use him,. ie. If Maxwell and Williams unavailable.
5. Jack>> 6. Thorne
Ahh ...... Kip ever faithful or is that Hopeful.
7. Blackie
Yer if Macaw not fit ... bit of a worry that
8. Tuiali'
Yep playing well this yeari
9. Marshall>> 10. Carter>> 11. Rocko
Not in great form .... a few games back and Sitiveni looks better already.
"Kip" <rkippenberger@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:425f6129$1@clear.net.nz...> Matua wrote:>
Give it up wanker! you stupid poor fool. You just haven't got a fucking >> clue have you. You sad little man.>>
Matua.>
Thank you for your input Peter. Much appreciated.
No worries Klit, Who in their right mind would pick an All Black team at the moment. There's a lot of players who have the opportunity to prove themselves in the coming weeks and we have a lot of talent in the various Super 12 teams. Just watched the Chiefs demolish the Cats tonight and boy is there some talent in that team. You have to be on the puha to pick, Carl Soeft, Ryan, Thorne, and maybe Mac Donald as 2nd pick. I watched Kelleher tonight and if he keeps playing like he did tonight Marshall will be on the bench. Why don't you get your hand off it and wait until the Super 12 has finished, there's a good boy.
Can't argue with that really. However Mauger is on thin ice lately.
15. MacDonald
Ridiculous. Dr Concussion has never made the step up into the AB's. A S12 journeyman that does good for his province but he's been found out at the top. Unlike Muliaina who has always looked the goods at test level and makes very few errors. Mils by a mile.
1. Woodcock 2. Caveman Oliver 3. Mountainman Hayman 4. Robinson (Williams) 5. Jack 6. Monkeyman Collins 7. McCaw 8. Tuiali'i 9. Old Man Marshall (for the Lions) 10. Carter 11. Roko 12. Mauger 13. Umaga 14. Gear 15. Muliania
Pretty useful looking team thanks very much. Too much for the Lions methinks. Only slight concern for me is the midfield. When Mauger has a bad day...he has a bad day. ALso depth in Lock is weak. We only have four class locks in this country in my view. (Jack, Maxwell, Williams, and Robinson). And two of those are injured most of the time, and the other is starting to turn into a thug.
Gear has been useful in the midfield for the Blues before. He could be an option for a midfield spot. Mark my words. Bobs is the greatest rugby mind in the world afterall. That frees up a wing for Howlett/Sivatuatu.
Henry's particularly worried about this. Given that he wants experience, the > most likely candidate is Thorne - all those who wrote him off (including > Henry) look like they're going to have to eat their words.>
Thorne as a first pick lock? Look Scebe, you may just be taking this a bit too far..
Just watched the Chiefs demolish the Cats tonight and boy is there some > talent in that team. You have to be on the puha to pick,> Carl Soeft, Ryan, Thorne, and maybe Mac Donald as 2nd pick.> I watched Kelleher tonight and if he keeps playing like he did tonight> Marshall will be on the bench. Why don't you get your hand off it and wait > until the Super 12 has finished, there's a good boy.>
Oh peabrain. One good (home) game against some crap opposition. Even Lauaki could look good in that.
I seem to recall the Chiefs conceding a half ton not too long ago, (kind of like having the Blues watching their opposition run in 41 unanswered points).
Well, fair enough I suppose. The Hicklanders do have a pretty useful > front row. However Woodcock would be my pick over Hoeft.>
Woodcock might get to watch, that way he could see a decent prop with another couple of decent front rowers beside him. Should be a novelty for him.
4. Ryan>
Who? I suspect you mean Williams or Robinson?>
Williams? Won't he have to come down from his 'roid rage' first? Say goodbye to that nutball, at least until his braincell multiplies.
5. Jack>> 6. Thorne>
LOL! Has to be the Monkeyman. Need a bit of biff to soften up those old > men in the Lions.>
Monkeyman will be off on a banana hunt. We need a real number 6, not one of those simpleton Wellington hairstyle posterboy's that got lost on his way to the warriors.
What if he wins everything without Thorne? Does that still make him a >> rugby>> god?>>
Like he did the Tri-N ? haha.
Look, as long as he selects the 'right' (most popular) players then Henry's all good. Doesn't matter that he loses, we in NZ now just like to see big scary 'hard men' and their long dreadlocks flowing in the wind like Rapunzel waiting for her fair prince....
"Kip" <rkippenberger@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:42602480$1@clear.net.nz...> Matua wrote:>
Just watched the Chiefs demolish the Cats tonight and boy is there some >> talent in that team. You have to be on the puha to pick,>> Carl Soeft, Ryan, Thorne, and maybe Mac Donald as 2nd pick.>> I watched Kelleher tonight and if he keeps playing like he did tonight>> Marshall will be on the bench. Why don't you get your hand off it and >> wait until the Super 12 has finished, there's a good boy.>>
Oh peabrain. One good (home) game against some crap opposition. Even > Lauaki could look good in that.>
I seem to recall the Chiefs conceding a half ton not too long ago, (kind > of like having the Blues watching their opposition run in 41 unanswered > points).
You mean, Sort of like the 35 to 20 thrashing the Crusaders got last week from the low rated Bulls. Oh dear??
"Kip" <rkippenberger@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:4260237e@clear.net.nz...>> Mr Scebe wrote:>>
Henry's particularly worried about this. Given that he wants experience, >>> the most likely candidate is Thorne - all those who wrote him off >>> (including Henry) look like they're going to have to eat their words.>>>
Thorne as a first pick lock? Look Scebe, you may just be taking this a bit >> too far..>
I think it will be close with Muliaina and MacDonald fighting it out for the> 15 jersey as well.
Mils is still the best fullback in NZ by some distance. He was the most consistent AB last season and will be in the no.15 jersey. MacDonald adds some depth to the squad, as could Evans.
Bolter this year to be Gopperth.
No chance. Spencer and Mehrtens will still be the frame as backup to Carter and then there is Mauger and Evans.
"Paul Kendall" <paulkendall@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message newsaulkendall-5D5364.12472316042005@news.clear.net.nz...> In article "Lo" <lo@ihatespam.com> wrote:>
I think it will be close with Muliaina and MacDonald fighting it out for >> the>> 15 jersey as well.>
Mils is still the best fullback in NZ by some distance. He was the most> consistent AB last season and will be in the no.15 jersey. MacDonald> adds some depth to the squad, as could Evans.>
Bolter this year to be Gopperth.>
No chance. Spencer and Mehrtens will still be the frame as backup to> Carter and then there is Mauger and Evans.
"Mr Scebe" <Mr_Scebe@nowhere.com> wrote in message news6X7e.19102$1S4.1904288@news.xtra.co.nz...>
"Kip" <rkippenberger@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:4260237e@clear.net.nz...>> Mr Scebe wrote:>>
Henry's particularly worried about this. Given that he wants experience, >>> the most likely candidate is Thorne - all those who wrote him off >>> (including Henry) look like they're going to have to eat their words.>>>
Thorne as a first pick lock? Look Scebe, you may just be taking this a >> bit too far..>
He was picked at lock for the BaaBaa's match. Given that there's a dearth > in the position, it would make sense to use him there. It would certainly > add some mobility to the tight five.
It'll make our scrum a disgrace. We'll get shitfucked every which way. Henry will be going for a strong tight 5 as this is the Lions main strength. With Thorne at lock you may as well not even show up.
"Mr Scebe" <Mr_Scebe@nowhere.com> wrote in message >news6X7e.19102$1S4.1904288@news.xtra.co.nz...>>
"Kip" <rkippenberger@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:4260237e@clear.net.nz...>>> Mr Scebe wrote:>>>
Henry's particularly worried about this. Given that he wants experience, >>>> the most likely candidate is Thorne - all those who wrote him off >>>> (including Henry) look like they're going to have to eat their words.>>>>
Thorne as a first pick lock? Look Scebe, you may just be taking this a >>> bit too far..>>
He was picked at lock for the BaaBaa's match. Given that there's a dearth >> in the position, it would make sense to use him there. It would certainly >> add some mobility to the tight five.>
It'll make our scrum a disgrace. We'll get shitfucked every which way.>Henry will be going for a strong tight 5 as this is the Lions main strength. >With Thorne at lock you may as well not even show up.>
I wonder how long before some enterprising coach picks a second rate front row plus subs in order to ensure uncontested scrums at some point during the match?
"Bobs" <blah@extra.co.nz> wrote in message news:VZ48e.19199$1S4.1915509@news.xtra.co.nz...
LOL! You really are a few fucks short of an orgy, Kip. Mils is in > excellent form and he played another good game tonight. As did Howlett > actually.
Yeah, they looked fucking good against the bottom of the table. Perhaps the B'lose might want to organise a 5 match series against Buller, to put them in the frame for AB selection - bwhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahhahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
-- Mr Scebe "Pershonally i think you're a fucking idiot" ~Sean Connery in "The Rock"
"Matua" <Matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote in message news:4260432f$0$27628$61c65585@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
Taumoepeau is definitely a prop of the future. He's a bit green at the > moment but he will be there in the not to distant future.He reminds me of > Olo Brown.
Apparently Brown went to University.
-- Mr Scebe "Pershonally i think you're a fucking idiot" ~Sean Connery in "The Rock"
I think it will be close with Muliaina and MacDonald fighting it out for >>> the>>> 15 jersey as well.>>
Mils is still the best fullback in NZ by some distance. He was the most>> consistent AB last season and will be in the no.15 jersey. MacDonald>> adds some depth to the squad, as could Evans.
Fair point. I think his class will get him selected.
Bolter this year to be Gopperth.>>
No chance. Spencer and Mehrtens will still be the frame as backup to>> Carter and then there is Mauger and Evans.>
Spencer, surely you jest?
Mehrts has signed up north so won't get the end of year tour spot. I still reckon Gopperth may yet get the call up.
"Mr Scebe" <Mr_Scebe@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:la78e.19233$1S4.1919074@news.xtra.co.nz...>
"Matua" <Matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote in message > news:4260432f$0$27628$61c65585@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...>
Taumoepeau is definitely a prop of the future. He's a bit green at the >> moment but he will be there in the not to distant future.He reminds me of >> Olo Brown.>
Apparently Brown went to University.>
-- > Mr Scebe> "Pershonally i think you're a fucking idiot"> ~Sean Connery in "The Rock">
Well then, there's still a chance for you Scab's. Enrol immediately.
Come on, this is just silly. Mils has the jumper locked up.>>>
Doubt it. He's been woeful. And now he's playing center.>
LOL! You really are a few fucks short of an orgy, Kip. Mils is in > excellent form and he played another good game tonight. As did Howlett > actually.
Brilliant. Because he's sure to be faced with all those unassailable challenges the cats presented him with this test season.
Absolutely typical. One home game against a bunny saffer team that clearly didn't want to be there and the Auckland sycophant society suddenly comes out of the woodwork.
In article "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
"Paul Kendall" <paulkendall@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message > newsaulkendall-5D5364.12472316042005@news.clear.net.nz...> > In article "Lo" <lo@ihatespam.com> wrote:
Bolter this year to be Gopperth.> >
No chance. Spencer and Mehrtens will still be the frame as backup to> > Carter and then there is Mauger and Evans.>
Spencer, surely you jest?
Nope. Better the devil you know and Henry would be confident he could get him performing if required. Mehrts and Spencer are the only options as backup to Carter. The others are either too inexperienced or aren't playing 1st 5 regularly.
Here it is. You've all been waiting for it. The next AB 1st XV;>>
1. Hoeft>> 2. Oliver (vc)>> 3. Hayman>
Well, fair enough I suppose. The Hicklanders do have a pretty useful > front row. However Woodcock would be my pick over Hoeft.
I'd be tempted to take Sommerville before Woodcock. More experience and can be useful with ball in hand. Also not suffering from having embarrasing caterpillar infestation on upper lip.
4. Ryan>
Who? I suspect you mean Williams or Robinson?
No... not Williams, Ryan can actually play lock well.
That said, Maxwell or Robinson would be might first picks due to experience.
5. Jack>> 6. Thorne>
LOL! Has to be the Monkeyman. Need a bit of biff to soften up those old > men in the Lions.
Collins, yes, but hopefully *NOT* for biff - he's a usefull #6 when he's not trying to be a wrecking ball.
7. Blackie>
McCaw>
8. Tuiali'i>
Good solid Auckland boy. Nothing wrong with that.>
Can't argue with that really. However Mauger is on thin ice lately.>
15. MacDonald>
Ridiculous. Dr Concussion has never made the step up into the AB's. A > S12 journeyman that does good for his province but he's been found out > at the top. Unlike Muliaina who has always looked the goods at test > level and makes very few errors. Mils by a mile.
Please. Kelleher's not even in the hunt this year.> >
Kelleher was supurb last weekend. What games were you watching?>
Well he's been crap against any decent side this year.
It depends what your definition of a crap side is. Kelleher started the S12 slowly, largely due to a niggling injury and indifferent form from the Chiefs' forwards, but has been very influential in all of the Chiefs wins, including the Blues match. IMO he shared the honours with Weepu. It helps when your pack performs as Marshall found out against the Bulls when he had a shocker.
Well he's been crap against any decent side this year. Selecting >> players based on form when playing against bunny sides would just be >> silly eh Ashy?>
Being crap against a bunny team must be worse than having form against > the bunnies then? Like Marshall against the Bulls.
How about when Marshall destroyed Kelleher. That was pretty fucking conclusive.
Well he's been crap against any decent side this year. Selecting >>> players based on form when playing against bunny sides would just be >>> silly eh Ashy?>>
Being crap against a bunny team must be worse than having form against >> the bunnies then? Like Marshall against the Bulls.>
How about when Marshall destroyed Kelleher. That was pretty fucking > conclusive.>
"Peter Ashford" <me@here.there.com> wrote in message news:4265a06a$1@clear.net.nz...> Kip wrote:>> Peter Ashford wrote:>>
Well he's been crap against any decent side this year. Selecting >>>> players based on form when playing against bunny sides would just be >>>> silly eh Ashy?>>>
Being crap against a bunny team must be worse than having form against >>> the bunnies then? Like Marshall against the Bulls.>>
How about when Marshall destroyed Kelleher. That was pretty fucking >> conclusive.>>
Or are the chiefs a bunny team now?>
Man, I want some of what you're smoking!>
"destroyed"???? LOL!
Kelleher is definitely a contender for the All Black halfback. He is a lot quicker around the field than Marshall. And my tax check arrives a lot quicker than his passes. Kippy's brain was destroyed year's ago,by acid.
"Matua" <Matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote in message news:4265c7eb$0$27623$61c65585@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
Kelleher is definitely a contender for the All Black halfback.> He is a lot quicker around the field than Marshall.> And my tax check arrives a lot quicker than his passes.
Your dole check, possibly. Your "tax check"? - not a chance.
-- Mr Scebe "Pershonally i think you're a fucking idiot" ~Sean Connery in "The Rock"
"Kip" <rkippenberger@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:42673fd7@clear.net.nz...> Lindsay wrote:>
Yes DESTROYED. Kelleher was UTTERLY outplayed by his superior.>>>
No, Marshall was on the field, not GOD.>>
You forget they get a different TV feed to Chch.>
Better than that. I saw Kelleher get taught his rugby lesson by the most > capped All Black halfback in history LIVE.
Oh for fucks sake, give it a rest Tosser. Kelleher is faster and his passes are faster. Look what happened in the Fench game. Get over it Klit, you wimp.
"Matua" <Matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote in message news:426745f0$0$27864$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...>
"Kip" <rkippenberger@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:42673fd7@clear.net.nz...>> Lindsay wrote:>>
Yes DESTROYED. Kelleher was UTTERLY outplayed by his superior.>>>>
No, Marshall was on the field, not GOD.>>>
You forget they get a different TV feed to Chch.>>
Better than that. I saw Kelleher get taught his rugby lesson by the most >> capped All Black halfback in history LIVE.>
Oh for fucks sake, give it a rest Tosser.> Kelleher is faster and his passes are faster.> Look what happened in the Fench game.> Get over it Klit, you wimp.>
Oh for fucks sake, give it a rest Tosser.>>Kelleher is faster and his passes are faster.>>Look what happened in the Fench game.>>Get over it Klit, you wimp.>>
Ah that's "French" >
What's the matter Peter? Spell checker on the blink?
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:57:32 +1000, "Matua" <Matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote:
"Matua" <Matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote in message >news:426745f0$0$27864$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...>>
"Kip" <rkippenberger@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:42673fd7@clear.net.nz...>>> Lindsay wrote:>>>
Yes DESTROYED. Kelleher was UTTERLY outplayed by his superior.>>>>>
No, Marshall was on the field, not GOD.>>>>
You forget they get a different TV feed to Chch.>>>
Better than that. I saw Kelleher get taught his rugby lesson by the most >>> capped All Black halfback in history LIVE.>>
Oh for fucks sake, give it a rest Tosser.>> Kelleher is faster and his passes are faster.>> Look what happened in the Fench game.>> Get over it Klit, you wimp.>>
Ah that's "French" >
You ure it's not Feltch ?
-- ** Col **
"God is dead." -Nietzsche "Nietzsche is dead." -God
"Col`" <Col@Extra.con> wrote in message news:94NnQtZXo0vjNcivJqT4Hhs00E+R@4ax.com...> On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:57:32 +1000, "Matua" <Matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote:>
"Matua" <Matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote in message>>news:426745f0$0$27864$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...>>>
"Kip" <rkippenberger@yahoo.com> wrote in message>>> news:42673fd7@clear.net.nz...>>>> Lindsay wrote:>>>>
Yes DESTROYED. Kelleher was UTTERLY outplayed by his superior.>>>>>>
No, Marshall was on the field, not GOD.>>>>>
You forget they get a different TV feed to Chch.>>>>
Better than that. I saw Kelleher get taught his rugby lesson by the >>>> most>>>> capped All Black halfback in history LIVE.>>>
Oh for fucks sake, give it a rest Tosser.>>> Kelleher is faster and his passes are faster.>>> Look what happened in the Fench game.>>> Get over it Klit, you wimp.>>>
Ah that's "French">>
You ure it's not Feltch ? >
--> ** Col **>
"God is dead." -Nietzsche> "Nietzsche is dead." -God>
The correct usage is "Why? Would you like to buy them? How much would > you like to pay?"
"Why" can also be used as an exclamation : hence I didn't correct it.
e,g "Why! Look at the AB team : Thorne isn't in it."
Question marks also double up as a full stop, so you cannot have two of > them lumped together.
Multiple QMs are often used to accentuate a question or to convey incredulousness - this is fine for usenet. Not putting a QM at the end of a question isn't since it totally removes the question.
Poms shouldn't be teaching English anyway, Walter. No one can understand > your gibberish.
"Walter Mitty" <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote in message news:3cpnglF6r99tlU1@uni-berlin.de...> Matua wrote:>> "Walter Mitty" <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:d4838n$9di$2@domitilla.aioe.org...>>
Col` wrote:>>>
You ure it's not Feltch ? >>>>
No. Matua likes a bit of "French".>>
Fuckin oath I do, Don't you Klitty.>
How do you know if you've never had the chance? It doesn't count with your > sister.
Oh no! I was with your sister. Your mother sucks the mongrel as well. And when she takes her teeth out it's awesome.Thank her again Klitty.
"Walter Mitty" <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote in message news:3cppqeF6pea2qU1@uni-berlin.de...> Bobs wrote:>>
The correct usage is "Why? Would you like to buy them? How much would you >> like to pay?">
"Why" can also be used as an exclamation : hence I didn't correct it.>
e,g "Why! Look at the AB team : Thorne isn't in it.">
Question marks also double up as a full stop, so you cannot have two of >> them lumped together.>
Multiple QMs are often used to accentuate a question or to convey > incredulousness - this is fine for usenet. Not putting a QM at the end of > a question isn't since it totally removes the question.>
Poms shouldn't be teaching English anyway, Walter. No one can understand >> your gibberish.>
Sweetasbro.
Oh you're a bro now eh Persil, or is that Omo?you pastie skinned pimply pom.
Oh you're a bro now eh Persil, or is that Omo?you pastie skinned pimply pom. >
Of course "bro" to a pretend, born again maori like "Peter Moore" is actually a euphemism for a bunch of whitebread "chess club chums" who all like to wear their whale bones on the outside to emphasis their finely formed features and skinny little necks whilst discussing how nice it would be to actually get some real punani for a change...
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On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:29:10 +1200, Lo <lo@ihatespam.com> wrote:>
Bolter this year to be Gopperth.>>>
No chance. Spencer and Mehrtens will still be the frame as backup>>> to Carter and then there is Mauger and Evans.>>
Spencer, surely you jest?>
Mehrts has signed up north so won't get the end of year tour spot. I still > reckon Gopperth may yet get the call up.
Gopperth may not go this year, but if the last ten years has been the Andrew and Carlos show, it's beginning to look like the next ten years could be Carter and Gopperth vying for the All Black position.
Of course, that was said about Mauger and, Paul's delusions notwithstanding, he's gone as a 1/5 contender over the last couple of years.
I wonder how long before some enterprising coach picks a second rate> front row plus subs in order to ensure uncontested scrums at some> point during the match?
Why do that when tyou just have the hookers hide on the sideline? But France tried that technique, and it didn't work so well.
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:10:47 +1200, Greig Blanchett><greigb@nzrfu.NOSPAM.com> wrote:>>
I wonder how long before some enterprising coach picks a second rate>> front row plus subs in order to ensure uncontested scrums at some>> point during the match?>
Why do that when tyou just have the hookers hide on the sideline?>But France tried that technique, and it didn't work so well.
I think the French were legitimately scuppered. The French have never gone into a test not expecting to dominate in the forwards - that game took them by surprise, I think. It certainly took me by surprise.
In article Rodger Donaldson <rodgerd@diaspora.gen.nz> wrote:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:29:10 +1200, Lo <lo@ihatespam.com> wrote:> >
Bolter this year to be Gopperth.> >>>
No chance. Spencer and Mehrtens will still be the frame as backup> >>> to Carter and then there is Mauger and Evans.> >>
Spencer, surely you jest?> >
Mehrts has signed up north so won't get the end of year tour spot. I still > > reckon Gopperth may yet get the call up.>
Gopperth may not go this year, but if the last ten years has been the> Andrew and Carlos show, it's beginning to look like the next ten years> could be Carter and Gopperth vying for the All Black position.
Gopperth has promise but so does Donald. I don't rate either in the same class as Carter, and Gopperth was found out a little bit in the Highlanders game. I see Evans as a more realistic long-term rival to Carter.
Of course, that was said about Mauger and, Paul's delusions> notwithstanding, he's gone as a 1/5 contender over the last couple of> years.
I never said Mauger was my choice as a AB 1st 5 but Henry selected him as one on the European tour last year so there is every chance the AB selectors still see him as an option again.
