On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:09:24 GMT, "SPG" <steve.goodsell@nopoo.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Just heard on the radio that Wilko got carried off after 35 mins today.>
It seems to me that we may never get him back and fit long enough, and if we >did, would he be the same player again?>
My opinion.. Too much socializing with Beckham during those ad shoots has >turned him onto a glass jaw
Actually, not at all. Its not uncommon for superb athletes to fall victim to poor genetics in the joints, tendons, and ligaments. I've known a number of superb athletes who've had their careers cut short - no amount of training, preparation, and care and change the fact that some people's bodies just can't take the strain - especially in joints/tendons.
In message <EIYYd.3410$QN1.2972@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, SPG <steve.goodsell@nopoo.blueyonder.co.uk> writes>Sad, for him and English rugby but I fear we may have seen the end of a >potentially mammoth career.
As was stated here right after RWC2003. -- Pete Devlin [{//////news03//////at\\\\\secondrow/////co\\\\\uk}] "Mind the oranges Marlon!"
cooch17@NOSPAMverizon.net wrote:> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:09:24 GMT, "SPG"> <steve.goodsell@nopoo.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:>
Just heard on the radio that Wilko got carried off after 35 mins today.>>
It seems to me that we may never get him back and fit long enough, and if we >>did, would he be the same player again?>>
My opinion.. Too much socializing with Beckham during those ad shoots has >>turned him onto a glass jaw>
Actually, not at all. Its not uncommon for superb athletes to fall> victim to poor genetics in the joints, tendons, and ligaments. I've> known a number of superb athletes who've had their careers cut short -> no amount of training, preparation, and care and change the fact that> some people's bodies just can't take the strain - especially in> joints/tendons.
I think it's a bit early to weed out JW fromthe gene pool.
The cause of the shoulder injury during/after the WC was obvious to all, and has kept him out of action for most of the last 15/16. Mths how many players of that size tackle as hard, as often and as fearlessly?
Prior to the shoulder injury what was his injury record like? This would be the measure of how naturally prone o injury he is, he'd been a proffessional athlete for many years before the WC.
It remains to be seen wether that shoulder of his is still up to the job, other injuries have prevented it from being tested too much.
"Mike" <no.reply@here.com> wrote in message news:Al_Yd.514$vB4.88@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...>
cooch17@NOSPAMverizon.net wrote:>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:09:24 GMT, "SPG">> <steve.goodsell@nopoo.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:>>
Just heard on the radio that Wilko got carried off after 35 mins today.>>>
It seems to me that we may never get him back and fit long enough, and if >>>we did, would he be the same player again?>>>
My opinion.. Too much socializing with Beckham during those ad shoots has >>>turned him onto a glass jaw>>
Actually, not at all. Its not uncommon for superb athletes to fall>> victim to poor genetics in the joints, tendons, and ligaments. I've>> known a number of superb athletes who've had their careers cut short ->> no amount of training, preparation, and care and change the fact that>> some people's bodies just can't take the strain - especially in>> joints/tendons.>
I think it's a bit early to weed out JW fromthe gene pool.>
The cause of the shoulder injury during/after the WC was obvious to all, > and has kept him out of action for most of the last 15/16. Mths how many > players of that size tackle as hard, as often and as fearlessly?>
Prior to the shoulder injury what was his injury record like? This would > be the measure of how naturally prone o injury he is, he'd been a > proffessional athlete for many years before the WC.>
It remains to be seen wether that shoulder of his is still up to the job, > other injuries have prevented it from being tested too much.>
Mike>
Let us hope that he gets over it during the summer (even if it means no lions for him). Would be an awful shame for such a talent to be wasted for ever.. For us and for himself.
Martyn Winters 14 March 2005 00:17:14 [ permanent link ]
In <301Zd.3637$QN1.563@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk> SPG wrote:>
"Mike" <no.reply@here.com> wrote in message > news:Al_Yd.514$vB4.88@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...>>
cooch17@NOSPAMverizon.net wrote:>>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:09:24 GMT, "SPG">>> <steve.goodsell@nopoo.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:>>>
Just heard on the radio that Wilko got carried off after 35 mins >>>>today. It seems to me that we may never get him back and fit long >>>>enough, and if we did, would he be the same player again? My >>>>opinion.. Too much socializing with Beckham during those ad shoots >>>>has turned him onto a glass jaw>>>
Actually, not at all. Its not uncommon for superb athletes to fall>>> victim to poor genetics in the joints, tendons, and ligaments. I've>>> known a number of superb athletes who've had their careers cut short ->>> no amount of training, preparation, and care and change the fact >>> that some people's bodies just can't take the strain - especially in>>> joints/tendons.>>
I think it's a bit early to weed out JW fromthe gene pool.>>
The cause of the shoulder injury during/after the WC was obvious to >> all, and has kept him out of action for most of the last 15/16. >> Mths how many players of that size tackle as hard, as often and as >> fearlessly?>>
Prior to the shoulder injury what was his injury record like? This >> would be the measure of how naturally prone o injury he is, he'd >> been a proffessional athlete for many years before the WC.>>
It remains to be seen wether that shoulder of his is still up to the >> job, other injuries have prevented it from being tested too much.>>
Mike>>
Let us hope that he gets over it during the summer (even if it means > no lions for him). Would be an awful shame for such a talent to be > wasted for ever.. For us and for himself. >
You have got to feel sorry for the guy. He had the world at his feet, and it is slipping away. There have to be doubts about his ability to come back from this. Hope he can make it, the rugby world is better for having players like Wilko fit and playing.
pete devlin <spamtrap@secondrow.co.uk> wrote in message news:<g89nKxGnEHNCFwst@sukmabobby.com>...> In message <EIYYd.3410$QN1.2972@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, SPG > <steve.goodsell@nopoo.blueyonder.co.uk> writes> >Sad, for him and English rugby but I fear we may have seen the end of a > >potentially mammoth career.>
As was stated here right after RWC2003.
It's hardly Nostradamus though. There are only two real options: Wilkinson would come back from injury and he wouldn't.
I didn't see anyone predicting he would suffer from three separate injuries, all of which would keep him out of the game.
Martyn Winters <zebedee.drownstaff@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<20050313201541481+0000@news.ntlworld.com>...
You have got to feel sorry for the guy. He had the world at his feet, > and it is slipping away. There have to be doubts about his ability to > come back from this. Hope he can make it, the rugby world is better for > having players like Wilko fit and playing.
Yeah he is good all right, however (barring serious injury) IMHO Daniel Carter will prove over the next 3-5 years to be one of the greatest ever seen at first five( fly half) Lew
