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GYXU > Rugby > How long for Betts? 23 May 2005 12:35:53

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How long for Betts?

Johnnysaint 21 May 2005 01:12:48
 How long before Maurice picks up the phone and speaks to Millward?

Sorry Denis, your services are no longer required! Get yer coat!!
johnnysaint


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John Turner 21 May 2005 03:08:07 permanent link ]
 
"johnnysaint" wrote
How long before Maurice picks up the phone and speaks to Millward?

Well Millward certainly made it clear on tonight's Sky pre-match chat that
he was open to offers, although he was careful to say that he wasn't after
putting anyone out of a job.

John.


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Mr.Will 21 May 2005 05:03:07 permanent link ]
 Having seen Wigan do this same performance yet again of racing into early
lead only to run out of ideas and confidence by the second half, I do wonder
if they will make a scapegoat of Betts.
Millward has been successful at St.Helens, but not over the last couple of
seasons - I also think that the Wigan team have to question whether they are
really interested in playing for 80 minutes or not.
However it is clear that Betts isn't getting the performances out of the
players - which *is* the job of the coach.

Mr.Will

"johnnysaint" <johnamitchell@spam­-trap.clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1116623583.452­54.0@despina.uk.clar­a.net...> How long before Maurice picks up the phone and speaks to Millward?>
Sorry Denis, your services are no longer required! Get yer coat!!> johnnysaint>


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Paul Dredge 21 May 2005 14:53:34 permanent link ]
 
"D1Mac" <TheD1Mac@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1116636312.490­788.174880@g47g2000c­wa.googlegroups.com.­..> It could well be the wrong Denis!> I did thing Moran might make a difference but it would appear no way> jose.> Very noticable that once Orr departed things went a bit awry - Denis M> just doesn't look like he can take a game even remotely by the scruff> of the neck and so no half backs are much worse than one with potential> who isn't quite there at the moment> While I don't believe Betts is doing the whole business it would appear> that he is getting the blame for more than he's worth - but I guess> that's just Maurice, others and circumstances.


Moran's problem is the first couple of years at the Bronco's he was able to
lead the line for an average team not expected to do much. Last year he was
not so effective as teams began to read his game and mark him out of the
match. This appears to be continuing at Wigan.

Paul


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Erasmus 21 May 2005 14:54:45 permanent link ]
 
">> Moran's problem is the first couple of years at the Bronco's he was able
lead the line for an average team not expected to do much. Last year he
not so effective as teams began to read his game and mark him out of the> match. This appears to be continuing at Wigan.>
Paul
Is anyone taking Bets on Betts.


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Arthur Pye 21 May 2005 15:37:27 permanent link ]
 In message <d6n3vc$ril$1@newsg­4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Paul Dredge
<p.dredge@noway.com­> writes>
"D1Mac" <TheD1Mac@aol.com> wrote in message>news:111663­6312.490788.174880@g­47g2000cwa.googlegro­ups.com...>> It could well be the wrong Denis!>> I did thing Moran might make a difference but it would appear no way>> jose.>> Very noticable that once Orr departed things went a bit awry - Denis M>> just doesn't look like he can take a game even remotely by the scruff>> of the neck and so no half backs are much worse than one with potential>> who isn't quite there at the moment>> While I don't believe Betts is doing the whole business it would appear>> that he is getting the blame for more than he's worth - but I guess>> that's just Maurice, others and circumstances.>
Moran's problem is the first couple of years at the Bronco's he was able to>lead the line for an average team not expected to do much. Last year he was>not so effective as teams began to read his game and mark him out of the>match. This appears to be continuing at Wigan.>
Paul
At the risk of being wise after the event, I always thought that Dennis
was probably not the man the Wigan needed. To me, he was always a flair
player for the Broncos, rather than an organiser. You could see how lost
they were when they had to play without Jim Dymock.

It's sad to hear Dennis being booed when he's being asked to take on a
role that he's not cut out for. But it was his choice to go to Wigan.
--
Arthur
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Andrew Carey3 22 May 2005 15:20:03 permanent link ]
 
At the risk of being wise after the event, I always thought that Dennis > was probably not the man the Wigan needed. To me, he was always a flair > player for the Broncos, rather than an organiser. You could see how lost > they were when they had to play without Jim Dymock.>
It's sad to hear Dennis being booed when he's being asked to take on a > role that he's not cut out for. But it was his choice to go to Wigan.> -- > Arthur

Fair comment about Betts. Is there any news on Mike Gregory's battle
with illness. The Gregory-Betts coach-assistant team seemed a good one
while Gregory was well, and Betts might be better suited to going back
to being another coach's right-hand man


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Alf King 22 May 2005 22:48:58 permanent link ]
 
Fair comment about Betts. Is there any news on Mike Gregory's battle>with illness. The Gregory-Betts coach-assistant team seemed a good one>while Gregory was well, and Betts might be better suited to going back>to being another coach's right-hand man >

Is this prescience or what??
Alf King
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Arthur Pye 23 May 2005 00:50:48 permanent link ]
 In message <d6ppt3$kqq$1@nwrdm­z01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-i­nfra.bt.com>, Andrew
Carey3 <andrew.carey3@btop­enworld.com> writes>> At the risk of being wise after the event, I always thought that Dennis>> was probably not the man the Wigan needed. To me, he was always a flair>> player for the Broncos, rather than an organiser. You could see how lost>> they were when they had to play without Jim Dymock.>>
It's sad to hear Dennis being booed when he's being asked to take on a>> role that he's not cut out for. But it was his choice to go to Wigan.>> -->> Arthur>
Fair comment about Betts.
True, but I was talking about the other Dennis (Moran). Must make myself
clearer in future.
--
Arthur
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Andrew Carey3 23 May 2005 12:35:53 permanent link ]
 
"Arthur Pye" <octiger38-ngrl@yah­oo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hGwr$9BoCPkCFw­nQ@f2s.com...> In message <d6ppt3$kqq$1@nwrdm­z01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-i­nfra.bt.com>, Andrew > Carey3 <andrew.carey3@btop­enworld.com> writes>>> At the risk of being wise after the event, I always thought that Dennis>>> was probably not the man the Wigan needed. To me, he was always a flair>>> player for the Broncos, rather than an organiser. You could see how lost>>> they were when they had to play without Jim Dymock.>>>
It's sad to hear Dennis being booed when he's being asked to take on a>>> role that he's not cut out for. But it was his choice to go to Wigan.>>> -->>> Arthur>>
Fair comment about Betts.> True, but I was talking about the other Dennis (Moran). Must make myself > clearer in future.> -- > Arthur
Hello Arthur, it was fairly clear who you meant after all. I must slow down
and
not read things in a state of excitement. Apols


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