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Dee Brookes 15 March 2005 03:59:55
	He is not to be charged due to "insufficient evidence". WTF is that about. Did they not watch the Sky tv pictures? I'm sure that there are some Broncos fans who can provide the video for them! It's a joke. Dee To reply via email remove 'nospam.' from my address
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John Turner 15 March 2005 04:03:43 [ permanent link ]
	"Dee Brookes" wrote He is not to be charged due to "insufficient evidence".> WTF is that about. Did they not watch the Sky tv pictures? Disgraceful. The most blatant trip I've seen in 45 years of watching rugby league. John.
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Lloyd Barkham 15 March 2005 04:25:45 [ permanent link ]
	-- Lloyd Leeds Rhinos - World Champions 2005 SL IX Champions, League Leaders Trophy Winners and Minor Premiers 2004 "John Turner" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:d158mb$t5c$1@newsreaderg1.core.theplanet.net...> "Dee Brookes" wrote> He is not to be charged due to "insufficient evidence".>> WTF is that about. Did they not watch the Sky tv pictures?> Disgraceful. The most blatant trip I've seen in 45 years of watching > rugby> league. Unbelievable. It just gets worse and worse each season. Or is it that they just feel sorry for Wigan and their mounting injury list? It's a disgrace. Can't work out what more evidence they would need. Maybe we ought to get the RFL to employ Quincey. He'd find some evidence. -- Lloyd Leeds Rhinos - World Champions 2005 SL IX Champions, League Leaders Trophy Winners and Minor Premiers 2004
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Jp 15 March 2005 04:27:12 [ permanent link ]
	"John Turner" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:d158mb$t5c$1@newsreaderg1.core.theplanet.net...> "Dee Brookes" wrote> He is not to be charged due to "insufficient evidence".>> WTF is that about. Did they not watch the Sky tv pictures?> Disgraceful. The most blatant trip I've seen in 45 years of watching > rugby> league.> John. Apparently as there were no studs were left embedded in the players head, it couldn't have been a trip. The video panel was made up of Ray Charles Stevie Wonder , Dave Oddie, and Uncle MO, it was shuuurely the correct decision.
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Gordon Murray 15 March 2005 04:37:56 [ permanent link ]
	"Dee Brookes" <deebrookes@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:d89c319dkgm01noss44mj80er4uuo6p61i@4ax.com...> He is not to be charged due to "insufficient evidence".> WTF is that about. Did they not watch the Sky tv pictures? I'm sure> that there are some Broncos fans who can provide the video for them!> It's a joke.> Completely vindicates the ref`s "on report" decision What a travesty of justice it would have been if the ref had believed his eyes, and actually sent the player off! Thank God that never happens nowadays!
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Glynnpot 15 March 2005 19:03:56 [ permanent link ]
	My view is that he may have started to go for the man but then tried to pull out of the way and then the challenge looked or turned into what may have appeared to be a trip. Or am I being too generous to Aspinwall? Anyway , the Broncos won at a canter so no harm done either way? Glynnpot the Bad Tipper
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Dee Brookes 15 March 2005 20:08:45 [ permanent link ]
	On 15 Mar 2005 07:03:56 -0800, "Glynnpot" <Glynnpeters@aol.com> wrote: My view is that he may have started to go for the man but then tried to>pull out of the way and then the challenge looked or turned into what>may have appeared to be a trip. Or am I being too generous to>Aspinwall?> Anyway , the Broncos won at a canter so no harm done either way?> Glynnpot the Bad Tipper He wasn't ruled as no case to answer though, it was insufficient evidence. Dee To reply via email remove 'nospam.' from my address
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Arthur Pye 16 March 2005 01:16:27 [ permanent link ]
	In message <r22e311aei94ugh5d862opn10tgb73l3gl@4ax.com>, Dee Brookes <deebrookes@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> writes>On 15 Mar 2005 07:03:56 -0800, "Glynnpot" <Glynnpeters@aol.com> wrote:> My view is that he may have started to go for the man but then tried to>>pull out of the way and then the challenge looked or turned into what>>may have appeared to be a trip. Or am I being too generous to>>Aspinwall?>> Anyway , the Broncos won at a canter so no harm done either way?>> Glynnpot the Bad Tipper>He wasn't ruled as no case to answer though, it was insufficient>evidence.> Yes, that's exactly the point, the "RFL Video Committee" is there to rule on availability of evidence, not guilt or innocence - that's the job of the Disciplinary Committee, if the case is referred to them. See here: http://www.rfl.uk.com/Templates/RFLDefault.asp?modeID=Content&uID=124 I have emailed the RFL offering them a copy of the Sky transmission. I just re-ran that section of the tape. The incident is shown from no less than SIX camera angles! I wonder how many they need to provide "sufficient evidence"? -- Arthur
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Phil L 16 March 2005 01:39:39 [ permanent link ]
	Arthur Pye wrote: :: In message <r22e311aei94ugh5d862opn10tgb73l3gl@4ax.com>, Dee :: Brookes <deebrookes@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> writes ::: On 15 Mar 2005 07:03:56 -0800, "Glynnpot" <Glynnpeters@aol.com> ::: wrote: ::: :::: My view is that he may have started to go for the man but then :::: tried to pull out of the way and then the challenge looked or :::: turned into what may have appeared to be a trip. Or am I being :::: too generous to Aspinwall? :::: :::: Anyway , the Broncos won at a canter so no harm done either way? :::: :::: Glynnpot the Bad Tipper ::: He wasn't ruled as no case to answer though, it was insufficient ::: evidence. ::: :: Yes, that's exactly the point, the "RFL Video Committee" is there :: to rule on availability of evidence, not guilt or innocence - :: that's the job of the Disciplinary Committee, if the case is :: referred to them. See here: :: http://www.rfl.uk.com/Templates/RFLDefault.asp?modeID=Content&uID=124 :: :: I have emailed the RFL offering them a copy of the Sky :: transmission. I just re-ran that section of the tape. The incident :: is shown from no less than SIX camera angles! I wonder how many :: they need to provide "sufficient evidence"? I didn't see the match but I heard about the incident...this copy you have Arthur, is it in digital format?...what I'm getting at is, is there anywhere I can see it online? -- http://www.blueyonder256k.myby.co.uk/
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Arthur Pye 16 March 2005 02:14:20 [ permanent link ]
	In message <vCIZd.4975$QN1.4293@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Phil L <neverchecked@hotmail.com> writes>I didn't see the match but I heard about the incident...this copy you have>Arthur, is it in digital format?...what I'm getting at is, is there anywhere>I can see it online?> Sorry, it's just a VHS tape. -- Arthur
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John Turner 16 March 2005 03:40:30 [ permanent link ]
	"Arthur Pye" wrote I have emailed the RFL offering them a copy of the Sky transmission. I> just re-ran that section of the tape. The incident is shown from no less> than SIX camera angles! I wonder how many they need to provide> "sufficient evidence"? Maybe you should have suggested the name of a good optician too. John.
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Sunshine 16 March 2005 04:11:28 [ permanent link ]
	On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:16:27 +0000, Arthur Pye <octiger38-ngrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: In message <r22e311aei94ugh5d862opn10tgb73l3gl@4ax.com>, Dee Brookes ><deebrookes@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> writes>>On 15 Mar 2005 07:03:56 -0800, "Glynnpot" <Glynnpeters@aol.com> wrote:>> My view is that he may have started to go for the man but then tried to>>>pull out of the way and then the challenge looked or turned into what>>>may have appeared to be a trip. Or am I being too generous to>>>Aspinwall?>>> Anyway , the Broncos won at a canter so no harm done either way?>>> Glynnpot the Bad Tipper>>He wasn't ruled as no case to answer though, it was insufficient>>evidence.>> Yes, that's exactly the point, the "RFL Video Committee" is there to >rule on availability of evidence, not guilt or innocence - that's the >job of the Disciplinary Committee, if the case is referred to them. See >here:>http://www.rfl.uk.com/Templates/RFLDefault.asp?modeID=Content&uID=124> I have emailed the RFL offering them a copy of the Sky transmission. I >just re-ran that section of the tape. The incident is shown from no less >than SIX camera angles! I wonder how many they need to provide >"sufficient evidence"? It's an absolute joke. http://boards.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=118006 Check the link out, it shows you the the incident. Click on the link in Ultimate Warriors post. just a little ray of.... Sunshine :o)
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Jeff 16 March 2005 04:15:22 [ permanent link ]
	Phil L <neverchecked@hotmail.com> shat the following logs:> Arthur Pye wrote:>>> In message <r22e311aei94ugh5d862opn10tgb73l3gl@4ax.com>, Dee>>> Brookes <deebrookes@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> writes>>>> On 15 Mar 2005 07:03:56 -0800, "Glynnpot" <Glynnpeters@aol.com>>>>> wrote:>>>> My view is that he may have started to go for the man but then>>>>> tried to pull out of the way and then the challenge looked or>>>>> turned into what may have appeared to be a trip. Or am I being>>>>> too generous to Aspinwall?>>>>> Anyway , the Broncos won at a canter so no harm done either way?>>>>> Glynnpot the Bad Tipper>>>> He wasn't ruled as no case to answer though, it was insufficient>>>> evidence.>>>> Yes, that's exactly the point, the "RFL Video Committee" is there>>> to rule on availability of evidence, not guilt or innocence ->>> that's the job of the Disciplinary Committee, if the case is>>> referred to them. See here:>>> http://www.rfl.uk.com/Templates/RFLDefault.asp?modeID=Content&uID=124>>> I have emailed the RFL offering them a copy of the Sky>>> transmission. I just re-ran that section of the tape. The incident>>> is shown from no less than SIX camera angles! I wonder how many>>> they need to provide "sufficient evidence"?> I didn't see the match but I heard about the incident...this copy you> have Arthur, is it in digital format?...what I'm getting at is, is> there anywhere I can see it online? http://www.spritehawk.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/git.mpg Cheers, Jeff.
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John Turner 16 March 2005 04:42:19 [ permanent link ]
	"Sunshine" wrote It's an absolute joke.> http://boards.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=118006> Check the link out, it shows you the the incident. Click on the link> in Ultimate Warriors post. Agreed, I've just watched the clip again and am convinced this was a deliberate attempt to hamper the kicker. I think from his positioning that the touch judge did well to note the offence, but the ref seemed to be looking in the wrong direction, but then he never does impress me. John.
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Alf King 16 March 2005 19:54:07 [ permanent link ]
	On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:30:47 -0000, "Jeff" <jeff9011spammo@hotmail.com> wrote: Well. the incredibly unbiased (no, really) Dave Oddie reckons there was>nothing wrong with it on the Wigan Forum. According to him it's not illegal.> Cheers,>Jeff. It used to be nice and straightforward - tripping = sending off. For some obscure reason that rule was amended since when I've seen much more tripping at all levels of the game. I would assume that there was some logic in the changes but can't imagine what it was. Alf King
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Erasmus 17 March 2005 12:48:24 [ permanent link ]
	Well. the incredibly unbiased (no, really) Dave Oddie reckons there was> > nothing wrong with it on the Wigan Forum. According to him it's not illegal.> > Really? I think I said in three seperate posts it was definately a> penalty. Penalty and legal play aren't the same thing are they Jeff?> I always had you down for a dickhead but a liar as well? Tut, tut.> Here is the link to the thread for anyone interested.> Looking at it as an impartial observer he lifted the leg with a bent knee and hit the player lower midriff , now it is pretty clever to trip someone by clouting someone just at the top of the thigh. ersmsm
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John Turner 17 March 2005 14:09:08 [ permanent link ]
	"erasmus" wrote Looking at it as an impartial observer he lifted the leg with a bent knee> and hit the player lower midriff , now it is pretty clever to trip someone> by clouting someone just at the top of the thigh.> ersmsm Clever maybe, but it certainly appeared to have the desired effect. John.
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Arthur Pye 17 March 2005 14:54:38 [ permanent link ]
	In message <d1bkte$stu$1@newsreaderg1.core.theplanet.net>, John Turner <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes> "erasmus" wrote> Looking at it as an impartial observer he lifted the leg with a bent knee>> and hit the player lower midriff , now it is pretty clever to trip someone>> by clouting someone just at the top of the thigh.>> ersmsm> Clever maybe, but it certainly appeared to have the desired effect.> John. Pretty close to a kick in the stomach then. I've had an acknowledgement of my email from Stuart Cummings' PA and await a reply, possibly within a week. I certainly hope that this issue doesn't cause Stuart any undue stress. -- Arthur Pye
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