"rick boyd" <boyd@comswest.net.­au> wrote in message

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really read the NZ newspapers around that time. The NZers gave the Poms a

run for their money as biggest whingers in the World. Mind you if they

had beaten the Poms at this they would have been bragging about it

You either win or you lose and unless you're SA won you lost too. Only

paupers care about the places.

On Jun 24, 4:53 pm, Maxx <sc...@executivemai­l.co.za> wrote:

No more history left to be made. First win at Dunedin maybe? With

Hayman, Jack, Williams, McCaw gone it's surely our best chance in

years to get a leg over the AB's for once.

-R

I know a few slappers Twickenham way that would let the AB's make them

watertight. If anyone has contacts within the AB management, please let

them know. I like to think of it as an exchange program.

JohnO a crit :

These are two different matters. Englands coaching problems are probably

due to a total lack of respect for the coaches by the players. Fords

defensive strategy is archaic compared to most GP clubs, Wells doesnt

seem to get on with anybody else in the setup at the moment, and

everybody knows what the players think of Squeeky. So the players try

and follow a gameplan that they know will not suffice against the best,

and revert to their respective club types when things go horribly wrong.

The other issue here is that the inate skills are not learned at an

early age. Since all our SH brethren believe that English rugby would

die without our public schools, I can only say that they hinder its

development more than anything else. Although my experience is dated, I

was at one of Englands finer ones in the 70s, it does, I beleive,

largely hold true today. The school put out about 12 teams to play

against various other schools at the different age groups, and probably

required 10 people to coach these teams. Where did these 'coaches' come

from? They were out history/geography/c­hemistry teachers and they

coached hockey, cricket or rowing at other times of the year. Whilst a

few had a real interest in coaching one of these sports, an ability to

coach was not part of their training, and many coached because there was

no one else to do it. When towards the end of my tile there, a teacher

arrived who was playing first team for one of the major clubs, there was

a positive change, but he happily admitted that he didnt know how to coach.

Also, my experience of playing in various clubs with people from very

different backgrouns during the 80s makes me think that this situation

was certainly generalised at the time, and I doubt that it has changed

much either.