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GYXU > Rugby > Re: Surprised... (spoiler-ish ENG v BaaBaas) 31 May 2006 08:27:54

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Re: Surprised... (spoiler-ish ENG v BaaBaas)

Didgerman 31 May 2006 08:27:54
 Martyn W wrote:> I'm surprised that we haven't had a few English on here ranting about> how the new look England are going to crush all-comers. Not the usual> crew, who with few exceptions, are more considered in their appraisals,> but the waifs and strays for whom the Usenet is repository for any> shite they can't get away with in other forums.

That would be me then.

Baabaa games, never trust them....
I'm just looking for a torrent of it and the GP 'final'. I missed both
games as I was in a shocking state by lunch time on Saturday, still a
bit 'bent' now tbh....

Perhaps the caution is> indicative of a sense of realism pervading the lands to my East, or> maybe it's because all the tossers are battling it out on the soccer> message boards at the moment. Whatever, it's refreshing.>
England were good in the second half after being outplayed in the first> (despite their lucky lead) by a scratch Barbarian side comprising> mostly elderly practicioners of the noble sport. Xavier Rush was the> standout player on the park in the first half, and he doesn't even> appear on the radar of All Black selection any more. In truth, but for> the lack of pace out wide, England would have been buried in the first> forty, which makes their comeback in the second all the more> praiseworthy. But more than that, the style in which they achieved it> was, frankly, exciting.>
England seem to have reinvented themselves and appear to have> discovered how modern rugby is played. I wouldn't mind betting their> forwards completed more passes in this single match than they did> during the entirety of the six nations. The backs were lively, full of> pace and always willing to make breaks - Tait in particular looked the> part. He's improved immeasurably in the last two years and has an> exciting future. Sanderson is a terrific asset to the New England, he> played the game like Michael Owen with a bit more bash. But picking out> individual players is futile, because more than anything it was a team> effort that subscribed to a style of rugby that must be alien in> concept to anyone playing in the GP except those in Bath.>
One worrying aspect is the inability of the team to break down a bunch> of old codgers until they ran out of gas, but that's only a minor> worry, because these things take time to bed in. More serious> challenges lie ahead, but if England keep faith with the attacking> strategy, they will improve with time. One thing is looking more> certain now than at any time in the last few years: that is, Martin> Corry and a few others had better find something to do on International> Saturdays.>
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The Green Phantom 29 May 2006 15:26:33 permanent link ]
 didgerman wrote:> Martyn W wrote:>> I'm surprised that we haven't had a few English on here ranting about>> how the new look England are going to crush all-comers. Not the usual>> crew, who with few exceptions, are more considered in their appraisals,>> but the waifs and strays for whom the Usenet is repository for any>> shite they can't get away with in other forums.>
That would be me then.>
Baabaa games, never trust them....> I'm just looking for a torrent of it and the GP 'final'. I missed both > games as I was in a shocking state by lunch time on Saturday, still a > bit 'bent' now tbh....

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm­mmmmmmmmmmm

regards

The Green Phantom
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Didgerman 29 May 2006 16:09:52 permanent link ]
 The Green Phantom wrote:> didgerman wrote:>> Martyn W wrote:>>> I'm surprised that we haven't had a few English on here ranting about>>> how the new look England are going to crush all-comers. Not the usual>>> crew, who with few exceptions, are more considered in their appraisals,>>> but the waifs and strays for whom the Usenet is repository for any>>> shite they can't get away with in other forums.>>
That would be me then.>>
Baabaa games, never trust them....>> I'm just looking for a torrent of it and the GP 'final'. I missed both >> games as I was in a shocking state by lunch time on Saturday, still a >> bit 'bent' now tbh....>
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm­mmmmmmmmmmm>
regards>
The Green Phantom

Hey, it was Volksfling, what was I supposed to do?
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Bully 29 May 2006 16:18:14 permanent link ]
 didgerman wrote:

[...]
Baabaa games, never trust them....> I'm just looking for a torrent of it and the GP 'final'. I missed both> games as I was in a shocking state by lunch time on Saturday, still a> bit 'bent' now tbh....

I thought you had stopped drinking or something cos it was gonna kill you?

[...]


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Didgerman 29 May 2006 18:50:42 permanent link ]
 Bully wrote:> didgerman wrote:>
[...]>
Baabaa games, never trust them....>> I'm just looking for a torrent of it and the GP 'final'. I missed both>> games as I was in a shocking state by lunch time on Saturday, still a>> bit 'bent' now tbh....>
I thought you had stopped drinking or something cos it was gonna kill you?>
[...]>

Well, I got better slowly....
But now, I'm not so sure.
I drank from about 2 until 2 and actually felt ok, I even performed on
stage for a few minutes and it seemed to go down well, and that was
around 11, so I wasn't *that* pissed.
But, Sunday morning I leapt out of my sleeping bag with the mother of
all calf cramps, which I could do nothing about, then promptly fainted
and started gurgling as I lay there with my eyes going round in circles,
so the wife says. I suddenly stopped moving and she thought I was gone
on, next thing I knew was her nagging at me to wake up, just a normal
morning really....
Still, the upshot is, I'm back on the wagon.
It says here, that cramp can make you faint if it's bad enough, all the
blood rushes from your head.

If Matua can't construct something witty out of these admissions then he
needs shooting.
Oh, and just for good measure, I pissed in my pants a bit after I
fainted. Pub anyone?
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Bully 29 May 2006 19:26:56 permanent link ]
 didgerman wrote:> Bully wrote:>> didgerman wrote:>>
[...]>>
Baabaa games, never trust them....>>> I'm just looking for a torrent of it and the GP 'final'. I missed>>> both games as I was in a shocking state by lunch time on Saturday,>>> still a bit 'bent' now tbh....>>
I thought you had stopped drinking or something cos it was gonna>> kill you? [...]>>
Well, I got better slowly....> But now, I'm not so sure.> I drank from about 2 until 2 and actually felt ok, I even performed on> stage for a few minutes and it seemed to go down well, and that was> around 11, so I wasn't *that* pissed.> But, Sunday morning I leapt out of my sleeping bag with the mother of> all calf cramps, which I could do nothing about, then promptly fainted> and started gurgling as I lay there with my eyes going round in> circles, so the wife says. I suddenly stopped moving and she thought> I was gone on, next thing I knew was her nagging at me to wake up,> just a normal morning really....> Still, the upshot is, I'm back on the wagon.> It says here, that cramp can make you faint if it's bad enough, all> the blood rushes from your head.>
If Matua can't construct something witty out of these admissions then> he needs shooting.> Oh, and just for good measure, I pissed in my pants a bit after I> fainted. Pub anyone?

Fan-bloody-tastic. Keep up the good work!!!

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Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinb­ars.co.uk
Supps: http://www.myprotei­n.co.uk - 5% off with my discount code MP4858

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss


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Andy Mulhearn 29 May 2006 19:27:32 permanent link ]
 Martyn W wrote:> I'm surprised that we haven't had a few English on here ranting about> how the new look England are going to crush all-comers. Not the usual> crew, who with few exceptions, are more considered in their appraisals,> but the waifs and strays for whom the Usenet is repository for any> shite they can't get away with in other forums. Perhaps the caution is> indicative of a sense of realism pervading the lands to my East, or> maybe it's because all the tossers are battling it out on the soccer> message boards at the moment. Whatever, it's refreshing.

Mainly quiet I think because it was a end of season fun day out rather
than a serious match, much as the England tried to make it serious.
England were good in the second half after being outplayed in the first> (despite their lucky lead) by a scratch Barbarian side comprising> mostly elderly practicioners of the noble sport. Xavier Rush was the> standout player on the park in the first half, and he doesn't even> appear on the radar of All Black selection any more. In truth, but for> the lack of pace out wide, England would have been buried in the first> forty, which makes their comeback in the second all the more> praiseworthy. But more than that, the style in which they achieved it> was, frankly, exciting.

Some of the defensive work was OK, but as you say, Spencer, Burke and
Roff of 5 years ago would have torn them apart. I'm surprised at how
much pace Spencer has lost, either that or Alex Brown is the fastest
second row in the world.

Competition at the ruck was a problem as well, as in there seemed to be
a gentleman's agreement they weren't going to do it. The forwards seemed
more focussed on getting there and competing though.
England seem to have reinvented themselves and appear to have> discovered how modern rugby is played. I wouldn't mind betting their> forwards completed more passes in this single match than they did> during the entirety of the six nations.

Offloading has become something of a feature of some GP clubs, in spite
of the comments to the contrary. A number of clubs are trying to play
more adventurous rugby - Glaws, Wasps, Irish and, under Ashton, Bath so
perhaps it's no surprise that the second/third tier players at those
unfashionable clubs, OK not Wasps, should carry that on.
The backs were lively, full of> pace and always willing to make breaks - Tait in particular looked the> part.

It almost seemed like kicking was banned the number of times England ran
the ball rather than kicked it away. One break from van Gisbergen which
was supported by the back line in total looked good.
He's improved immeasurably in the last two years and has an> exciting future. Sanderson is a terrific asset to the New England,

Another player almost ruined by not being at a fashionable club.
played the game like Michael Owen with a bit more bash. But picking out> individual players is futile, because more than anything it was a team> effort that subscribed to a style of rugby that must be alien in> concept to anyone playing in the GP except those in Bath.

As I said above, Irish have been doing this most of the season.
Gloucester's games against Irish and Wasps are of that style. Who'd have
thought the satanic figure of Dean Ryan would manage that?
One worrying aspect is the inability of the team to break down a bunch> of old codgers until they ran out of gas, but that's only a minor> worry, because these things take time to bed in. More serious> challenges lie ahead, but if England keep faith with the attacking> strategy, they will improve with time. One thing is looking more> certain now than at any time in the last few years: that is, Martin> Corry and a few others had better find something to do on International> Saturdays.>

This is still a coaching team led by Andy Robinson don't forget.

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Didgerman 29 May 2006 19:58:32 permanent link ]
 Bully wrote:> didgerman wrote:>> Bully wrote:>>> didgerman wrote:>>>
[...]>>>
Baabaa games, never trust them....>>>> I'm just looking for a torrent of it and the GP 'final'. I missed>>>> both games as I was in a shocking state by lunch time on Saturday,>>>> still a bit 'bent' now tbh....>>> I thought you had stopped drinking or something cos it was gonna>>> kill you? [...]>>>
Well, I got better slowly....>> But now, I'm not so sure.>> I drank from about 2 until 2 and actually felt ok, I even performed on>> stage for a few minutes and it seemed to go down well, and that was>> around 11, so I wasn't *that* pissed.>> But, Sunday morning I leapt out of my sleeping bag with the mother of>> all calf cramps, which I could do nothing about, then promptly fainted>> and started gurgling as I lay there with my eyes going round in>> circles, so the wife says. I suddenly stopped moving and she thought>> I was gone on, next thing I knew was her nagging at me to wake up,>> just a normal morning really....>> Still, the upshot is, I'm back on the wagon.>> It says here, that cramp can make you faint if it's bad enough, all>> the blood rushes from your head.>>
If Matua can't construct something witty out of these admissions then>> he needs shooting.>> Oh, and just for good measure, I pissed in my pants a bit after I>> fainted. Pub anyone?>
Fan-bloody-tastic. Keep up the good work!!!>

I will, from time to time.
Keep away from this stuff though:
http://www.beers-sc­otland.co.uk/product­~P_ID~137.htm
I didn't see the warning on the plastic glasses, but it seems like more
than 10 is bad for you....
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Bully 29 May 2006 20:58:21 permanent link ]
 didgerman wrote:> Bully wrote:>> didgerman wrote:>>> Bully wrote:>>>> didgerman wrote:>>>>
[...]>>>>
Baabaa games, never trust them....>>>>> I'm just looking for a torrent of it and the GP 'final'. I missed>>>>> both games as I was in a shocking state by lunch time on Saturday,>>>>> still a bit 'bent' now tbh....>>>> I thought you had stopped drinking or something cos it was gonna>>>> kill you? [...]>>>>
Well, I got better slowly....>>> But now, I'm not so sure.>>> I drank from about 2 until 2 and actually felt ok, I even performed>>> on stage for a few minutes and it seemed to go down well, and that>>> was around 11, so I wasn't *that* pissed.>>> But, Sunday morning I leapt out of my sleeping bag with the mother>>> of all calf cramps, which I could do nothing about, then promptly>>> fainted and started gurgling as I lay there with my eyes going>>> round in circles, so the wife says. I suddenly stopped moving and>>> she thought I was gone on, next thing I knew was her nagging at me>>> to wake up, just a normal morning really....>>> Still, the upshot is, I'm back on the wagon.>>> It says here, that cramp can make you faint if it's bad enough, all>>> the blood rushes from your head.>>>
If Matua can't construct something witty out of these admissions>>> then he needs shooting.>>> Oh, and just for good measure, I pissed in my pants a bit after I>>> fainted. Pub anyone?>>
Fan-bloody-tastic. Keep up the good work!!!>>
I will, from time to time.> Keep away from this stuff though:> http://www.beers-sc­otland.co.uk/product­~P_ID~137.htm> I didn't see the warning on the plastic glasses, but it seems like> more than 10 is bad for you....

Well; http://www.stuff4du­des.com/

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Protein bars: http://www.proteinb­ars.co.uk
Supps: http://www.myprotei­n.co.uk - 5% off with my discount code MP4858

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matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss


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Mike 29 May 2006 21:04:44 permanent link ]
 Bully wrote:> didgerman wrote:>> Bully wrote:>>> didgerman wrote:>>>> Bully wrote:>>>>> didgerman wrote:>>>>>
[...]>>>>>
Baabaa games, never trust them....>>>>>> I'm just looking for a torrent of it and the GP 'final'. I missed>>>>>> both games as I was in a shocking state by lunch time on Saturday,>>>>>> still a bit 'bent' now tbh....>>>>> I thought you had stopped drinking or something cos it was gonna>>>>> kill you? [...]>>>>>
Well, I got better slowly....>>>> But now, I'm not so sure.>>>> I drank from about 2 until 2 and actually felt ok, I even performed>>>> on stage for a few minutes and it seemed to go down well, and that>>>> was around 11, so I wasn't *that* pissed.>>>> But, Sunday morning I leapt out of my sleeping bag with the mother>>>> of all calf cramps, which I could do nothing about, then promptly>>>> fainted and started gurgling as I lay there with my eyes going>>>> round in circles, so the wife says. I suddenly stopped moving and>>>> she thought I was gone on, next thing I knew was her nagging at me>>>> to wake up, just a normal morning really....>>>> Still, the upshot is, I'm back on the wagon.>>>> It says here, that cramp can make you faint if it's bad enough, all>>>> the blood rushes from your head.>>>>
If Matua can't construct something witty out of these admissions>>>> then he needs shooting.>>>> Oh, and just for good measure, I pissed in my pants a bit after I>>>> fainted. Pub anyone?>>> Fan-bloody-tastic. Keep up the good work!!!>>>
I will, from time to time.>> Keep away from this stuff though:>> http://www.beers-sc­otland.co.uk/product­~P_ID~137.htm>> I didn't see the warning on the plastic glasses, but it seems like>> more than 10 is bad for you....>

An excess of either will result in blindness.

Mike
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Mike 30 May 2006 17:58:00 permanent link ]
 aardvark5000@yahoo.c­om wrote:> This is Scotland's finest beer:>
Imply the nicest beer I have drank in years.>

Although I do enjoy real ales and will walk miles for a decent pint I
always find the snobbery off putting;

'... Aromas of vanilla and toffee, hints of citrus, with a malty,
lightly oaked, palate. Defty balanced and light in texture, soothing and
warming in the finish.'

I'm sure I would enjoy it but what a poncy way to describe beer! The
only thing that seperates some real ale buffs from wine buffs is they
don't usually swill and spit out the beer.

Mike
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Mike 30 May 2006 18:48:16 permanent link ]
 Martyn W wrote:> Mike wrote:>> aardvark5000@yahoo.­com wrote:>>> This is Scotland's finest beer:>>>
Imply the nicest beer I have drank in years.>
I've been drinking a brew called Wel Scotch for a number of years and I> have to say, I find it rather agreeable. The only place I've ever found> it is in an Irish Pub in St Germain en Laye just outside Paris. Wait,> it gets worse. Following the declaration above that xyz is the finest> beer in Scotland, it occured to me that this ale might well top that,> so I researched it, only to find that it is brewed by Kronenburg,> albeit from Highland Malt Whisky. I'm not quite sure which fact> horrifies me most.>
Here's the bottled variety, although I drink it from the tap.>

Sounds very interesting, but I'd use a glass if I were you.

Mike
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Didgerman 30 May 2006 20:42:19 permanent link ]
 Martyn W wrote:> Rookie wrote:>> Martyn W wrote:>>> Mike wrote:>>>> aardvark5000@yahoo.­com wrote:>>>>> This is Scotland's finest beer:>>>>>
Imply the nicest beer I have drank in years.>>> I've been drinking a brew called Wel Scotch for a number of years and I>>> have to say, I find it rather agreeable. The only place I've ever found>>> it is in an Irish Pub in St Germain en Laye just outside Paris. Wait,>>> it gets worse. Following the declaration above that xyz is the finest>>> beer in Scotland, it occured to me that this ale might well top that,>>> so I researched it, only to find that it is brewed by Kronenburg,>>> albeit from Highland Malt Whisky. I'm not quite sure which fact>>> horrifies me most.>>>
Here's the bottled variety, although I drink it from the tap.>>>
http://www.brasseri­es-kronenbourg.com/_­corporate_uk/marques­/b_wel_scotch.htm>> It's made by Kronenburg, it's fizzy and it's got a bloody great head on>> it. Ain't no real ale.>
I've not tasted the bottled variety, but rest assured the draught> variety has been consumed by the Winters family on many an evening. If> it's not a real ale, and I suspect that within the narrow confines of> CAMRA, you're probably correct, it's a bloody nice tasting ale. The> only other beer that I've enjoyed as much is an Amber from a small> brewery just outside Atlanta, Georgia. It too is a flat, warm beer, but> with a very distinctive taste. I forget the name, perhaps one of our US> members can refresh me in a way Old Scuttlebucket never could.>

Enough already. I'm still recovering from Saturday's onslaught. Taking
the kids to the pub for lunch helped a wee bit....
I'm off to Cornwall soon {don't tell Charles}, plenty of drinks to try
down there, some real crackers when I was there last year, add one
decent pasty and England wining the 2nd world cup on their way to the
holy hat-trick {rugby, cricket and association football.....} and it
should be good....
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Henry 31 May 2006 08:27:54 permanent link ]
 
I've been drinking a brew called Wel Scotch for a number of years and I> have to say, I find it rather agreeable. The only place I've ever found> it is in an Irish Pub in St Germain en Laye just outside Paris. Wait,> it gets worse. Following the declaration above that xyz is the finest> beer in Scotland, it occured to me that this ale might well top that,> so I researched it, only to find that it is brewed by Kronenburg,> albeit from Highland Malt Whisky.

Erm...brewed by Kronenbourg, from Highland Whisky Malt _not_ 'Highland
Malt Whisky'. A bit of a difference there.

Dyslexia rules, KO

cheers,

Henry
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