*sigh*...someone needs to pull Shigeru Miyamoto to the side...
Krusty 15 May 2005 03:28:58
...and break the news to him that his team lost...
Really, they need to pull a Sega, or maybe pull a hybrid move, and concentrate on the handhelds, and make games for both Sony and Microsoft. Imagine Zelda or Mario with an online community aspect to it...
"Rockboy" <rockboy@rockboy.net> wrote> Anyway, how dare Nintendo not unnecessarily rush it's console out a year > early!
I looked at the paper today. There's one Nintendo game being advertised. "Donkey Konga".. There were two pages of Xbox and PS2 games.
I just don't see any developers jumping on board. It's not about "not rushing a console to market" or "how dare they...". It's about, "how many developers will develop games for the console?". I see no EA titles showing up on Cube, I see nothing by Rockstar, Nothing by Sega, I see Star Wars Episode III on Xbox and PS2, but not cube. I don't see Grand Theft Auto, Medal of Honor, Gods of War, Splinter Cell, Midnight Club, Grand Turismo, Wrestlemania, etc
I see developers flocking around PS2 and Xbox 360, and I hear Nintendo's going to create another console, and all I see is, "it's going to be the size of 3 CD cases"
They could make it the size of a cigarette pack, and if there aren't any games to play on it, who will care? How much longer before people tire of playing "Paper Mario 7" or "Mario Party 32"?
I'm sorry, but you really fucking suck at research.>
But I could go on and on and name tons of games that are selling *shitloads* > on PS2 and Xbox that simply aren't available for Cube. Rockstar being the > most *obvious* one.
I suspect the Game Cube's smaller capacity on it's discs hurt it with Rockstar. Hey, where's SquareEnix on the XBox?
Unreal Championship, Doom3, Star Wars...we're not talking about quality of > games,
Obviously. Unreal and Doom 3 are vastly superior on the PC.
or else we'd bring up crap like Mario Party,
A major seller.
or the shitty sequel to Metroid,
You're losing credibility.
we're talking about large *popular* franchises that simply don't > appear on Game Cube.
Hey, how about those popular Nintendo franchises that sell millions, only for Nintendo products?
Where's Doom for Game Cube?
Who cares, it shouldn't be on the console in the first place.
Midnight Club?
It's not *about* quantity OR> quality when it comes to "why aren't developers making any new gamecube > games? I haven't play a game cube game since zelda. There just hasn't been > anything *compelling* that's been developed since then.
Meh. I can say the same for the entire XBox lineup outside of Knights of the Old Republic, and I can the same for the entire all time line-up of the PlayStation 2.
One of my biggest issues with the XBox was it's size. Most people agree >>that the XBox and Game Cube are pretty equal when it comes to graphics >>(and the PS2 flat out sucks in comparison). So how come Nintendo can do >>it in a much smaller package?>
Ummm...gee...a network adapter, a fucking *hard drive*, a larger optical > drive that plays *DVD*s...you really fucking suck at research...lol
If you can fit those in a Mac Mini, you can fit lesser components in to a console the same size years ago.
I just don't think Nintendo stands a chinaman's chance of making a dent in > the console space...especially coming in almost two years after Xbox and a > year after Playstation.
2006 is next year dumbass. The Revolution is probably coming out around the same time as the PS3. The XBox 360 is coming out in late 2005. The Revolution is not coming out in late 2007. Don't be ignorant.
Take off the XBox blinders my friend, you're leading yourself in to some pretty stupid areas here.
-- Rockboy Everybody's all right Everything is automatic
"Krusty" <krusty@sc.rr.com> wrote in message news:5eShe.54439$Fa.1706689@twister.southeast.rr.com...> "Rockboy" <rockboy@rockboy.net> wrote...>> Krusty wrote:>> 2006 is next year dumbass. The Revolution is probably coming out around >> the same time as the PS3. The XBox 360 is coming out in late 2005. The >> Revolution is not coming out in late 2007. Don't be ignorant.>>
Take off the XBox blinders my friend, you're leading yourself in to some >> pretty stupid areas here.>
Dude. I *hate* that it's Xbox. I hate it. I wanted it to be Nintendo more > than anything. I *desperately* wanted Nintendo to be the one. I bought my > systems, in order, Nintendo (first day), Sony, and Xbox kicking and > screaming. Seriously. I went and purchased an Xbox kicking and screaming > and it was only after I saw the potential of XBL.>
I just think that Nintendo seriously blew it. I think Sony scooped them > with the whole idea of "exclusivity" with developers (Rockstar, Square) > and Xbox scooped them all with the concept of a centralized network for > online play.>
Nintendo even HAD a network adapter *before* Sony and Microsoft, and when > they announced it, I wanted it to be THE Sony killer. I thought, "okay, so > they blew it by not playing DVDs, I can live with that, because they're > smart enough that they'll see how popular online gameplay will eventually > be and they won't miss that boat". But no, I've got a network adapter in > my GameCube that's collecting dust. I've NEVER used it. It was the > absolute *worst* purchase I ever made in 25 years of gaming.>
I don't think every game should be online. I know that. But what I DO know > is that the ability to download additional content, additional levels, > online chat, playing with friends, cooperative play, etc are HUGE things > that make EVERY game good. So it doesn't have online play, no biggie, but > I think that the other benefits to being connected to a central network, > are just monumentally important. I think we're all seeing that now.>
I'm saddened that every major development in the last few years has > happened in gaming has been either a Sony or a Microsoft development. I'm > saddened that the *best* gaming company seems to be dropping the ball > every time.>
I just don't see Nintendo being able to *do* anything to bring anything > more than just the hardcore gamers back. Me? If there's a zelda, I'm > there. Same with you, but I fear that they could end up in worse condition > than Sega if they drop this ball again. Can the DS and GBA float them > beyond this?>
I DO know this. Xbox game developers have been developing 360 games for > TWO YEARS (EA had specs in 2004, same with Bungee). There are a ton of > games in the pipeline that WILL be out by Thanksgiving. I know that Sony > developers have had specs now for about 5-6 months (Square supposedly has > been working on PS3 games since about December). I know that > NO...ZERO...Nintendo developers have specs, or have begun developing any > titles (I haven't read anything anywhere about any Nintendo development). > We can certainly assume that Myamoto's team has been developing games, but > the reality of it is that you can more than likely plan on seeing a > working Nintendo system many months after Sony....unless something > *dramatic* happens. With that in mind, it isn't too hard to imagine a > working Nintendo system possibly...when...Christmas 2006? If that's the > case man, that's just sad.>
I'm *praying* that there's a *dramatic* announcement tomorrow from > Nintendo. But otherwise, how much is that gonna suck for people like you > and me who *love* games?>
"Poot Rootbeer" <poot@dork.com> wrote...> Miyamoto seems dedicated to making sure that Nintendo offers you> gaming experiences you can't get from anyone else. Whether they can> do so and remain financially viable indefinitely, I don't know. But> I applaud the effort regardless.
This seems like THE reason for buying a Nintendo. Seriously. It's the MOST valid argument that anyone's made. It will ALL depend on the ability of Myamoto to develop compelling content for the next system.
Krusty wrote:>>2006 is next year dumbass. The Revolution is probably coming out around >>the same time as the PS3. The XBox 360 is coming out in late 2005. The >>Revolution is not coming out in late 2007. Don't be ignorant.>>
Take off the XBox blinders my friend, you're leading yourself in to some >>pretty stupid areas here.>
Dude. I *hate* that it's Xbox. I hate it. I wanted it to be Nintendo more > than anything. I *desperately* wanted Nintendo to be the one. I bought my > systems, in order, Nintendo (first day), Sony, and Xbox kicking and > screaming. Seriously. I went and purchased an Xbox kicking and screaming and > it was only after I saw the potential of XBL.>
I just think that Nintendo seriously blew it. I think Sony scooped them with > the whole idea of "exclusivity" with developers (Rockstar, Square) and Xbox > scooped them all with the concept of a centralized network for online play.>
Nintendo even HAD a network adapter *before* Sony and Microsoft, and when > they announced it, I wanted it to be THE Sony killer. I thought, "okay, so > they blew it by not playing DVDs, I can live with that, because they're > smart enough that they'll see how popular online gameplay will eventually be > and they won't miss that boat". But no, I've got a network adapter in my > GameCube that's collecting dust. I've NEVER used it. It was the absolute > *worst* purchase I ever made in 25 years of gaming.>
I don't think every game should be online. I know that. But what I DO know > is that the ability to download additional content, additional levels, > online chat, playing with friends, cooperative play, etc are HUGE things > that make EVERY game good. So it doesn't have online play, no biggie, but I > think that the other benefits to being connected to a central network, are > just monumentally important. I think we're all seeing that now.>
I'm saddened that every major development in the last few years has happened > in gaming has been either a Sony or a Microsoft development. I'm saddened > that the *best* gaming company seems to be dropping the ball every time.>
I just don't see Nintendo being able to *do* anything to bring anything more > than just the hardcore gamers back. Me? If there's a zelda, I'm there. Same > with you, but I fear that they could end up in worse condition than Sega if > they drop this ball again. Can the DS and GBA float them beyond this?>
I DO know this. Xbox game developers have been developing 360 games for TWO > YEARS (EA had specs in 2004, same with Bungee). There are a ton of games in > the pipeline that WILL be out by Thanksgiving. I know that Sony developers > have had specs now for about 5-6 months (Square supposedly has been working > on PS3 games since about December). I know that NO...ZERO...Nintendo > developers have specs, or have begun developing any titles (I haven't read > anything anywhere about any Nintendo development). We can certainly assume > that Myamoto's team has been developing games, but the reality of it is that > you can more than likely plan on seeing a working Nintendo system many > months after Sony....unless something *dramatic* happens. With that in mind, > it isn't too hard to imagine a working Nintendo system > possibly...when...Christmas 2006? If that's the case man, that's just sad.>
I'm *praying* that there's a *dramatic* announcement tomorrow from Nintendo. > But otherwise, how much is that gonna suck for people like you and me who > *love* games?
The part I find funny is that consoles are the worst fucking way to play games online.
-- Rockboy Everybody's all right Everything is automatic
Miyamoto seems dedicated to making sure that Nintendo offers you>>gaming experiences you can't get from anyone else. Whether they can>>do so and remain financially viable indefinitely, I don't know. But>>I applaud the effort regardless.>
This seems like THE reason for buying a Nintendo. Seriously. It's the MOST > valid argument that anyone's made. It will ALL depend on the ability of > Myamoto to develop compelling content for the next system.
He hasn't disappointed me yet.
-- Rockboy Everybody's all right Everything is automatic
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