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Freedom Fries 8 May 2005 10:19:10
 Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose tax
exempt status. Everytime it seems the right wing retard jesus freaks can't
sink any lower they reach a new low.

Dems Voted Out of Church Weigh Options By PAUL NOWELL, Associated Press
Writer
Sat May 7, 7:51 PM ET

WAYNESVILLE, N.C. - A pastor who led a charge to kick out nine church
members who refused to support President Bush was the talk of the town
Saturday in this mountain hamlet, with ousted congregants considering hiring
a lawyer.

Pastor Chan Chandler greeted people at the door of tiny East Waynesville
Baptist Church on Saturday evening as the church choir practiced and even
welcomed them to attend services Sunday morning - if there's room inside.
But he was not prepared to talk about his mixing of religion and politics.

"On the advice of counsel, I've been advised not to have any comment at this
time," Chandler told The Associated Press. "We will have a statement later."

Members of the congregation said Chandler told them during last year's
presidential campaign that anyone who planned to vote for Democratic nominee
John Kerry needed to leave the church.

Longtime member Selma Morris, who was treasurer at the church, said
Chandler's sermons remained political after Bush won re-election. This past
week, his comments turned to politics again at a church gathering that ended
with nine members voted out.

Morris said Saturday that some of the ousted members planned to meet with an
attorney on Monday to discuss their options. "We're hoping he (the attorney)
will make him leave so that the church members can come back," she said.

"This is very disturbing," said Pastor Robert Prince III, who leads the
congregation at the nearby First Baptist Church. "I've been a pastor for
more than 25 years, and I have never seen church members voted out for
something like this."

Those who are still members did not know if the church would be open for
services Sunday, or if Chandler would be in the pulpit to preach.

The 100-member East Waynesville Baptist Church sits on a bluff a short
distance from downtown Waynesville, a mountain town about 125 miles
northwest of Charlotte. A white steeple and stain glass windows adorn the
simple brick structure, built in 1965, with a view of the mountains from the
front steps.

Across the street sits the church's parsonage, a small brick ranch home with
children's toys scattered in the front lawn. A small wooden sign out front
reads simply "The Chandlers." No one answered the phone there on Saturday.

In the days since the nine members were ousted, many more members have
reportedly left the church in protest.

"He went on and on about how he's going to bring politics up, and if we
didn't agree with him, we should leave," Isaac Sutton told The News and
Observer of Raleigh. "I think I deserve the right to vote for who I want
to."

Sutton, a deacon who worshipped at East Waynesville Baptist Church for the
past 12 years, said he and his wife were among the nine voted out.

"I've been going to this church for 25 years and I've never had a problem,"
Sutton's wife, Lorene, told The Associated Press on Friday. "He's young and
he thinks he knows everything."

Other former members of the church declined to speak with a reporter
Saturday, citing the advice of their attorney. But the furor over politics
at the church was the talk of Waynesville, a community of about 9,200
residents.

"It's just an outrage for something like this to happen in America," said
Heidi Jenkins, 52, as she held a garage sale at her home down the street
from the church.

Prince said he noticed during the presidential campaign that more pastors
made endorsements - although not from the pulpit - than in past years.

"It used to be that pastors would speak about the issues and not specific
candidates," he said. "I think that line is being crossed."


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Pope GregoryD 8 May 2005 05:40:31 permanent link ]
 Freedom Fries knelt and kissed my pinky ring before declaring:
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose tax> exempt status. Everytime it seems the right wing retard jesus freaks can't> sink any lower they reach a new low.

Nothing like a liberal to kick up a cloud of dust only to choke himself to
death in the process.

--
Pope GregoryD

Founder of Opus Hogan, Patriarch of the West Coast, Vicarius Fili
Hulkster, Successor of the Mouth, Primate and Archbishop of Venice Beach

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Chad Bryant 8 May 2005 10:47:27 permanent link ]
 "Freedom Fries" writes:
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose> tax exempt status.

Political activities in church helped the Christian Coalition lose their
tax-exempt status.

This "pastor" should be fired, or the church should have its status tax-
exempt status revoked.

--
Chad Bryant
Annoying The Ignorant Online Since 1995
http://www.chadbrya­nt.cjb.net/
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Terrell D Lewis 8 May 2005 11:25:14 permanent link ]
 
"Freedom Fries" <FrenchFriesAren'tF­rench@dumbamericans.­com> wrote in message
news:427daec9_2@x-p­rivat.org...> Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose tax> exempt status. Everytime it seems the right wing retard jesus freaks can't> sink any lower they reach a new low.>
Dems Voted Out of Church Weigh Options By PAUL NOWELL, Associated Press> Writer> Sat May 7, 7:51 PM ET>
WAYNESVILLE, N.C. - A pastor who led a charge to kick out nine church> members who refused to support President Bush was the talk of the town> Saturday in this mountain hamlet, with ousted congregants considering > hiring> a lawyer.>

This preacher, and all Christians need to remember that Jesus said, "My
kingdom is not of this world."

In my child hood, I can't remember any preacher who would mention outloud
publicly or privately who they supported. I remember brief mentions about
how we should go and vote our conscience or some such, but for the most
part, sermons were on sin, salvation, or expositions of scriptures - only in
the last 20-30 years have I noticed this trend towards politicizing the
church.

It appears (at least) that the church has given up on evangelizing a lost
world and has instead substituted the gospel of the GOP (mostly) for the
gospel of Christ. The morality of our nation has been on a greased downhill
slide, and instead of praying for revival, the church is praying for a
Republican victory at the polls. Instead of looking for Christ the King,
they act like they want to diefy Bush.

It is ironic that at the same time the government has been pushing the
church out, the church has beeen inviting the government in.

It sort of reminds me of when Ezekiel was given a vision of angels marking
those who wept for Zion, if they are out there marking those who weep for
the state of the modern church, I wonder if they'll find anyone?

Terrell



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Arizona Bushwhacker 8 May 2005 11:49:48 permanent link ]
 
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sb­cglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Freedom Fries" <FrenchFriesAren'tF­rench@dumbamericans.­com> wrote in
message> news:427daec9_2@x-p­rivat.org...> > Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose tax> > exempt status. Everytime it seems the right wing retard jesus freaks
can't> > sink any lower they reach a new low.> >
Dems Voted Out of Church Weigh Options By PAUL NOWELL, Associated Press> > Writer> > Sat May 7, 7:51 PM ET> >
WAYNESVILLE, N.C. - A pastor who led a charge to kick out nine church> > members who refused to support President Bush was the talk of the
town> > Saturday in this mountain hamlet, with ousted congregants considering> > hiring> > a lawyer.> >
This preacher, and all Christians need to remember that Jesus said, "My> kingdom is not of this world.">
In my child hood, I can't remember any preacher who would mention outloud> publicly or privately who they supported. I remember brief mentions about> how we should go and vote our conscience or some such, but for the most> part, sermons were on sin, salvation, or expositions of scriptures - only
the last 20-30 years have I noticed this trend towards politicizing the> church.>
It appears (at least) that the church has given up on evangelizing a lost> world and has instead substituted the gospel of the GOP (mostly) for the> gospel of Christ. The morality of our nation has been on a greased
downhill> slide, and instead of praying for revival, the church is praying for a> Republican victory at the polls. Instead of looking for Christ the King,> they act like they want to diefy Bush.>
It is ironic that at the same time the government has been pushing the> church out, the church has beeen inviting the government in.>
It sort of reminds me of when Ezekiel was given a vision of angels marking> those who wept for Zion, if they are out there marking those who weep for> the state of the modern church, I wonder if they'll find anyone?>
Terrell

You need to remember that no republican in a Christian!
No matter how much they pretend to be Christians!





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John Henry 8 May 2005 12:20:14 permanent link ]
 "Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushkicker@cox.n­et> wrote in news:sdjfe.3014
$eU.325@fed1read07:­
You need to remember that no republican in a Christian!>

Neither are most Christians.

--
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It is better to be hated for being who you are,
than to be loved for being who you are not.
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Arizona Bushwhacker 8 May 2005 12:47:33 permanent link ]
 
"John Henry" <jhd@NOSPAMinsurgen­t.orgNOSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns96502C2782F­B8johnhenrylowgenius­co@216.168.3.44...> "Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushkicker@cox.n­et> wrote in news:sdjfe.3014> $eU.325@fed1read07:­>
You need to remember that no republican in a Christian!> >
Neither are most Christians.

The ONLY Christians, who are Christians, are the
ones who let Everyone (no matter who they are)
come into their Church (No matter how they
are dressed) and pray to Jesus!

All others (like the fucking republicans who hate
anyone besides other republicans, praying for every
non-republican to die and go to hell) can go to hell!!!


--> John Henry> Now Playing: Led Zeppelin - Cracker Jack Blues> It is better to be hated for being who you are,> than to be loved for being who you are not.> NEW site! www.lowgenius.NET


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Tiki 8 May 2005 13:24:51 permanent link ]
 snarl snarl....LOL
"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushkicker@cox.n­et> wrote in message
news:z3kfe.3732$eU.­3059@fed1read07...>
"John Henry" <jhd@NOSPAMinsurgen­t.orgNOSPAM> wrote in message> news:Xns96502C2782F­B8johnhenrylowgenius­co@216.168.3.44...>>­ "Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushkicker@cox.n­et> wrote in news:sdjfe.3014>> $eU.325@fed1read07:­>>
You need to remember that no republican in a Christian!>> >
Neither are most Christians.>
The ONLY Christians, who are Christians, are the> ones who let Everyone (no matter who they are)> come into their Church (No matter how they> are dressed) and pray to Jesus!>
All others (like the fucking republicans who hate> anyone besides other republicans, praying for every> non-republican to die and go to hell) can go to hell!!!>
-->> John Henry>> Now Playing: Led Zeppelin - Cracker Jack Blues>> It is better to be hated for being who you are,>> than to be loved for being who you are not.>> NEW site! www.lowgenius.NET>



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Arizona Bushwhacker 8 May 2005 13:52:28 permanent link ]
 
"tiki" <tiki@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:427ddae3_3@new­s.uncensored-news.co­m...> snarl snarl....LOL

But the absolute truth!!!
LOL!!!



"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushkicker@cox.n­et> wrote in message> news:z3kfe.3732$eU.­3059@fed1read07...> >
"John Henry" <jhd@NOSPAMinsurgen­t.orgNOSPAM> wrote in message> > news:Xns96502C2782F­B8johnhenrylowgenius­co@216.168.3.44...> >> "Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushkicker@cox.n­et> wrote in news:sdjfe.3014> >> $eU.325@fed1read07:­> >>
You need to remember that no republican in a Christian!> >> >
Neither are most Christians.> >
The ONLY Christians, who are Christians, are the> > ones who let Everyone (no matter who they are)> > come into their Church (No matter how they> > are dressed) and pray to Jesus!> >
All others (like the fucking republicans who hate> > anyone besides other republicans, praying for every> > non-republican to die and go to hell) can go to hell!!!> >
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the Bede 8 May 2005 19:35:58 permanent link ]
 
"It used to be that pastors would speak about the issues and not specific> candidates," he said. "I think that line is being crossed.">
that's the rule, right there. Brother Bushite has broken the law.


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Pope Long Dong II 8 May 2005 23:05:31 permanent link ]
 On Sun, 08 May 2005 01:40:31 +0000, Pope GregoryD <hagar@hotmail.com>­
wrote:
Freedom Fries knelt and kissed my pinky ring before declaring:>
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose tax>> exempt status. Everytime it seems the right wing retard jesus freaks can't>> sink any lower they reach a new low.>
Nothing like a liberal to kick up a cloud of dust only to choke himself to>death in the process.


hahha really.. they should be somewhere starving someone to death.
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Pope Long Dong II 8 May 2005 23:08:40 permanent link ]
 On Sun, 08 May 2005 06:47:27 GMT, Chad Bryant
<webmaster@chadbrya­nt.cjb.net> wrote:
"Freedom Fries" writes:>
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose>> tax exempt status.>
Political activities in church helped the Christian Coalition lose their >tax-exempt status.>
This "pastor" should be fired, or the church should have its status tax->exempt status revoked.


Same for the ones that "Hosted" Clinton, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton,
and Kerry... Hahhahah Kery couldn't decide if he was a Catholic or a
Baptist.. guess he flip-flopped on that too.. depended upon which way
the wind and the cameras were pointed.
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Pope Long Dong II 8 May 2005 23:12:11 permanent link ]
 On Sun, 8 May 2005 00:49:48 -0700, "Arizona Bushwhacker"
<azbushkicker@cox.n­et> wrote:

You need to remember that no republican in a Christian!>No matter how much they pretend to be Christians!>


Could you translate that to human speak, that is, if your two brain
cells aren't presently occupied.
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Pope Long Dong II 8 May 2005 23:16:20 permanent link ]
 On Sun, 8 May 2005 01:47:33 -0700, "Arizona Bushwhacker"
<azbushkicker@cox.n­et> wrote:
"John Henry" <jhd@NOSPAMinsurgen­t.orgNOSPAM> wrote in message>news:Xns965­02C2782FB8johnhenryl­owgeniusco@216.168.3­.44...>> "Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushkicker@cox.n­et> wrote in news:sdjfe.3014>> $eU.325@fed1read07:­>>
You need to remember that no republican in a Christian!>> >
Neither are most Christians.>
The ONLY Christians, who are Christians, are the>ones who let Everyone (no matter who they are)>come into their Church (No matter how they>are dressed) and pray to Jesus!>
All others (like the fucking republicans who hate>anyone besides other republicans, praying for every>non-republica­n to die and go to hell) can go to hell!!!>


Calm down Mary...

Mighty nice of YOU to sit in judgement of others.. HYPOCRITE.
Your LIEberal steak is showing... putz.
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Guest 9 May 2005 00:10:10 permanent link ]
 On Sun, 8 May 2005 02:19:10 -0400, "Freedom Fries"
<FrenchFriesAren'tF­rench@dumbamericans.­com> wrote:
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose tax>exempt status. Everytime it seems the right wing retard jesus freaks can't>sink any lower they reach a new low.>
Dems Voted Out of Church Weigh Options By PAUL NOWELL, Associated Press>Writer>Sat May 7, 7:51 PM ET>
WAYNESVILLE, N.C. - A pastor who led a charge to kick out nine church>members who refused to support President Bush was the talk of the town>Saturday in this mountain hamlet, with ousted congregants considering hiring>a lawyer.>
Pastor Chan Chandler greeted people at the door of tiny East Waynesville>Baptist­ Church on Saturday evening as the church choir practiced and even>welcomed them to attend services Sunday morning - if there's room inside.>But he was not prepared to talk about his mixing of religion and politics.>
"On the advice of counsel, I've been advised not to have any comment at this>time," Chandler told The Associated Press. "We will have a statement later.">
Members of the congregation said Chandler told them during last year's>presidential­ campaign that anyone who planned to vote for Democratic nominee>John Kerry needed to leave the church.>
Longtime member Selma Morris, who was treasurer at the church, said>Chandler's sermons remained political after Bush won re-election. This past>week, his comments turned to politics again at a church gathering that ended>with nine members voted out.>
Morris said Saturday that some of the ousted members planned to meet with an>attorney on Monday to discuss their options. "We're hoping he (the attorney)>will make him leave so that the church members can come back," she said.>
"This is very disturbing," said Pastor Robert Prince III, who leads the>congregation at the nearby First Baptist Church. "I've been a pastor for>more than 25 years, and I have never seen church members voted out for>something like this.">
Those who are still members did not know if the church would be open for>services Sunday, or if Chandler would be in the pulpit to preach.>
The 100-member East Waynesville Baptist Church sits on a bluff a short>distance from downtown Waynesville, a mountain town about 125 miles>northwest of Charlotte. A white steeple and stain glass windows adorn the>simple brick structure, built in 1965, with a view of the mountains from the>front steps.>
Across the street sits the church's parsonage, a small brick ranch home with>children's toys scattered in the front lawn. A small wooden sign out front>reads simply "The Chandlers." No one answered the phone there on Saturday.>
In the days since the nine members were ousted, many more members have>reportedly left the church in protest.>
"He went on and on about how he's going to bring politics up, and if we>didn't agree with him, we should leave," Isaac Sutton told The News and>Observer of Raleigh. "I think I deserve the right to vote for who I want>to.">
Sutton, a deacon who worshipped at East Waynesville Baptist Church for the>past 12 years, said he and his wife were among the nine voted out.>
"I've been going to this church for 25 years and I've never had a problem,">Sutton's wife, Lorene, told The Associated Press on Friday. "He's young and>he thinks he knows everything.">
Other former members of the church declined to speak with a reporter>Saturday, citing the advice of their attorney. But the furor over politics>at the church was the talk of Waynesville, a community of about 9,200>residents.>
"It's just an outrage for something like this to happen in America," said>Heidi Jenkins, 52, as she held a garage sale at her home down the street>from the church.>
Prince said he noticed during the presidential campaign that more pastors>made endorsements - although not from the pulpit - than in past years.>
"It used to be that pastors would speak about the issues and not specific>candidates­," he said. "I think that line is being crossed.">
I haven't heard this action condemned by one single so-called
conservative, nor any right-wing religious leader for that matter.
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John Baker 9 May 2005 06:42:58 permanent link ]
 On Sun, 08 May 2005 20:10:10 GMT, Fair and Balanced Hyco-Limbaugh Fart
Detector wrote:

I haven't heard this action condemned by one single so-called>conservat­ive, nor any right-wing religious leader for that matter.

Nor, I'll just about guarantee, will you. But if a Democrat did the
same thing, the rightards would be screaming bloody murder. <G>




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the Bede 9 May 2005 09:11:11 permanent link ]
 
"trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com­> wrote in message
news:1115613781.037­888.132540@f14g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..> >Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose> > tax exempt status.> >
And what do you say about the Baptist churches that have become a> must-visit campaign stop for Democratic candidates every election> period? Now THAT is an outrage -- they have been doing that garbage for> YEARS!!!>
those are black baptist churches, and blacks aren't allowed to vote.


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Jtem 10 May 2005 01:31:40 permanent link ]
 
"trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com­> wrote
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should> > automatically lose tax exempt status.
And what do you say about the Baptist churches that> have become a must-visit campaign stop for> Democratic candidates every election period?

Nothing. But if those churches require members to vote
for a certain candidate or party they have no business
calling themselves a church.



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Jtem 10 May 2005 03:11:35 permanent link ]
 
"trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com­> wrote
Nothing. But if those churches require members to vote> > for a certain candidate or party they have no business> > calling themselves a church.
And what church do you attend?

I'm not sure why you mistakenly believe that to be
relevant. The law is quite clear on the matter, and
no church may endorse a vote for or against any
candidate for public office. Period.





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Jtem 10 May 2005 03:14:30 permanent link ]
 
"trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com­> wrote
FYI -- the pastor did NOT endorse a political party.

He sought to "punish" people for their votes, which
is clearly in violation of the law.



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Krusty 10 May 2005 03:28:20 permanent link ]
 C The Shocker wrote:> I just heard the audio on CBS News of the wacko Southern Baptist North> Carolina pastor and these are his exact words:>
"If you vote for John Kerry you need to either repent or resign.">
I suppose CBS took it out of context though, huh?

Well, you had to go and ruin that thread. Once you pulled the ol' "here
are the facts" on Janis, you just guaranteed that he won't make another
appearance in the thread anymore.

Thanks a lot, and I was enjoying today's "Trijcomm meltdown" too. It's
been funny today watching him flounder around pretending to "know stuff".
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Pope Long Dong II 10 May 2005 03:44:51 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 9 May 2005 19:11:35 -0400, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.c­om>
wrote:
"trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com­> wrote>
Nothing. But if those churches require members to vote>> > for a certain candidate or party they have no business>> > calling themselves a church.>
And what church do you attend?>
I'm not sure why you mistakenly believe that to be>relevant. The law is quite clear on the matter, and>no church may endorse a vote for or against any>candidate for public office. Period.

Then arrest Jesse, Bill and Kerry..
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Jtem 10 May 2005 04:59:56 permanent link ]
 
"Pope Long Dong II" <Papacy@vatican.it>­ wrote
I'm not sure why you mistakenly believe that to be> >relevant. The law is quite clear on the matter, and> >no church may endorse a vote for or against any> >candidate for public office. Period.
Then arrest Jesse, Bill and Kerry..

Why?

Go on. And please be sure to *Lavish* us with
details. I'd hate to be expected to take you at your
word, you being an idiot & all.

So please spell out of us EXACTLY what illegal
activity you're claiming that these men have engaged
in.

Thanks in advance... for nothing.



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Archived Chad 10 May 2005 05:37:55 permanent link ]
 Chad Bryant <webmaster@chadbrya­nt.cjb.net> wrote in
news:1115687374.ef6­0b3894b63f5c66d658b6­1c5f3aac8@teranews:
Scott/Janis Johnson as "trijcomm" wrote:>
I just heard the audio on CBS News of the wacko Southern Baptist North>>
Carolina pastor and these are his exact words:>>
"If you vote for John Kerry you need to either repent or resign.">>
I suppose CBS took it out of context though, huh?>>
And if you listened to his whole sermon, that probably would have been>> the first one you heard in years. Correct?>
Forget what the others say - watching you self-destruct into another > kooked-out rage is always entertaining.

Hello Pot
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Evil Sideshow Bob 10 May 2005 05:40:38 permanent link ]
 "trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com­>, sometimes I doubt your commitment to
Sparkle Motion!
I just heard the audio on CBS News of the wacko Southern Baptist North>
Carolina pastor and these are his exact words:>
"If you vote for John Kerry you need to either repent or resign.">
I suppose CBS took it out of context though, huh?>
And if you listened to his whole sermon, that probably would have been>the first one you heard in years. Correct?

Relevance?



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Poot Rootbeer 10 May 2005 06:01:22 permanent link ]
 "trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com­> wrote:> "If you vote for John Kerry you need to either repent or resign.">
I suppose CBS took it out of context though, huh?>
And if you listened to his whole sermon, that probably would have> been the first one you heard in years. Correct?

What does that have to do with anything?

I don't need a man (or a woman--yeah right) in a silly robe to tell me
who to vote for. God gave me Free Will and I actually EXERCISE it.

-Poot
"Tax the churches.
Tax the businesses owned by the churches."
- FZ
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Jtem 10 May 2005 07:55:58 permanent link ]
 
"trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com­> wrote
If the "law" you refer to was so clear, then there would> be all kinds of African American church leaders who> would have been rounded up a long time ago for> similar violations.

So name them. Name the churches, name the church leaders
and name the violations.

Because were most definitely *Not* speaking of any
hypothetical here. We were given a clear, undeniable
example of a violation of the law on the part of lunatic
right-wingers.

So put up or shut up.




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Jtem 10 May 2005 07:58:10 permanent link ]
 
"Rightard Whitey" <eelder1@tampabay.r­r.com> wrote
The church can lose its non-profit status by involving> itself in politics. This happened to Pat Robertson a> while back. You can talk about ethics and moral> values, but you can't tell people to vote a certain way.

They can't even tell you to not vote a certain way.

In other words, saying "Don't vote for Kerry" is just
as illegal as "Be sure to vote for Bush."



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Jtem 11 May 2005 00:04:35 permanent link ]
 
"trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com­> wrote
I'm not sure why you mistakenly believe that to be> > relevant. The law is quite clear on the matter, and> > no church may endorse a vote for or against any> > candidate for public office. Period.
If the "law" you refer to was so clear, then there would be> all kinds of African American church leaders who would> have been rounded up a long time ago for similar violations.

So name the churches. Name the African American church
leaders. Describe for us their crimes, and please don't
skimp on the details.

Back up your claim.



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