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[OT](Poll) Next Major Media Organization to make up a news story?

Hmph! 30 May 2005 06:40:42
 After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet story, which
news organization will be the next to make up a majorly false story?

I say CNN is the next to be caught making up news.




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Poot Rootbeer 30 May 2005 06:40:58 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:> After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet> story

No.

-Poot
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Pbtalley 30 May 2005 06:51:26 permanent link ]
 
"hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in message
news:xoednTxCdddP4Q­ffRVn-vw@buckeye-exp­ress.com...> After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet story, which> news organization will be the next to make up a majorly false story?>
I say CNN is the next to be caught making up news.>
The Onion.

Brian



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Hmph! 30 May 2005 06:55:22 permanent link ]
 
"pbtalley" <pbtalley@verizon.n­et> wrote in message
news:Ocvme.6491$m%3­.1070@trnddc02...>
"hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in message> news:xoednTxCdddP4Q­ffRVn-vw@buckeye-exp­ress.com...> > After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet story,
which> > news organization will be the next to make up a majorly false story?> >
I say CNN is the next to be caught making up news.> >
The Onion.>

Sadly, they have almost the same accuracy as the rest of the media.




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Nemesis 30 May 2005 07:11:26 permanent link ]
 On Sun, 29 May 2005 22:40:42 -0400, "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> with the
help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able to
type out the following:
After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet story, which>news organization will be the next to make up a majorly false story?>
I say FOX is the next to be caught making up news.>

Fixed your post.

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Hmph! 30 May 2005 07:21:56 permanent link ]
 
"Nemesis" <nemesis@tehawk.com­edy> wrote in message
news:d21l91dp8baho3­os1v9s5kesvlfnq2qs4g­@4ax.com...> On Sun, 29 May 2005 22:40:42 -0400, "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> with the> help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able to> type out the following:>
After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet story,
which> >news organization will be the next to make up a majorly false story?> >
I say FOX is the next to be caught making up news.> >
Fixed your post.>
--> Nemesis

Please name an instance where Fox News has intentially made up a story.



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Krusty 30 May 2005 07:45:47 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote> Yet he never corroberates Newsweek's allegations that a government > document> confirmed a Korand was even placed in a toilet.

Like I said, tin foil.

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Hmph! 30 May 2005 07:51:49 permanent link ]
 
"Krusty" <krusty@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:L%vme.5466$az3­.578747@twister.sout­heast.rr.com...> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote> > Yet he never corroberates Newsweek's allegations that a government> > document> > confirmed a Korand was even placed in a toilet.>
Like I said, tin foil.>

It won't cause you any physical harm to acknowledge reality and accept that
Newsweek was wrong.

The guy who made the allegation has said it never happend. Why do you
continue to refuse to accept it.


http://news.yahoo.c­om/s/nm/20050526/us_­nm/security_guantana­mo_koran_dc_6






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Pope Long Dong II 30 May 2005 07:56:43 permanent link ]
 On Sun, 29 May 2005 22:40:42 -0400, "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:
After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet story, which>news organization will be the next to make up a majorly false story?>
I say CNN is the next to be caught making up news.>

well CBS was first, then NY Times... then Newsweak
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Pope Long Dong II 30 May 2005 07:57:07 permanent link ]
 On Sun, 29 May 2005 21:40:58 -0500, Poot Rootbeer <poot@dork.com>
wrote:
"hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:>> After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet>> story>
No doubt it never ever happened.>
-Poot

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Pope Long Dong II 30 May 2005 07:59:05 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 30 May 2005 03:11:26 GMT, Nemesis <nemesis@tehawk.com­edy>
wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2005 22:40:42 -0400, "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> with the>help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able to>type out the following:>
After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet story, which>>news organization will be the next to make up a majorly false story?>>
I say FOX is the next to be caught making up news.>>
Fixed your post.


Kerry lost, get over it
Al Gore lost get over it..

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Poot Rootbeer 30 May 2005 08:09:58 permanent link ]
 Pope Long Dong II <Papacy@vatican.it>­ wrote:> On Sun, 29 May 2005 21:40:58 -0500, Poot Rootbeer <poot@dork.com>> wrote:>>No doubt it never ever happened.>>
-Poot

Don't put words in my mouth, you fucking infected vagina.

-Poot
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Poot Rootbeer 30 May 2005 08:23:16 permanent link ]
 Pope Long Dong II <Papacy@vatican.it>­ wrote:>>which news organization will be the next to make up a>>majorly false story? >
well CBS was first, then NY Times... then Newsweak

Wrong, you idiot. NY Times was before CBS.

-Poot
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Hmph! 30 May 2005 08:43:42 permanent link ]
 
"Poot Rootbeer" <poot@dork.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96662AD69B1­Epootrootbeer@216.19­6.97.136...> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:> > You acknowledge that the Newsweek story was false (No Koran was> > *actually placet in a toilet*) but continue to argue that it was> > somehow "right". You have to be trolling. You cannot be that> > stupid or willfully ignorant.>
The STORY was that Americans at Gitmo were desecrating the Islamic holy> book. The toilet story was one illustrative example of that> desecration.>
While the SPECIFIC INCIDENT alleged has not been proven to have> occured, the GENERAL ALLEGATION has in fact been confirmed by the> Pentagon. At least 13 credible allegations of "mishandling" by> American guards and interrogators.>

No, 13 allegations have been made. Five allegations of "Koran mishandling"
have been deemed 'credible', three of which have been deemed 'intentional'.
Of these 'credible' incidents, we have been informed that they include a
Koran being accidently dropped, a Koran being placed on a television, and a
Koran being placed too near food.

The Newsweek story stated that the toilet incident was CONFIRMED in a
government document. That was false. There has yet to be a single account
of "Koran abuse" or "Koran desicration" being deemed 'credible'. The
Newsweek story stated otherwise and stated that a government document proved
that such incidents had occured. None of these things have been proven
accurate. The facts have actually proven such occurances to be false. No
amount of wishful thinking is going to change that fact.

In the future you should actually try to read past the headlines before you
argue current events.




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Hmph! 30 May 2005 08:57:00 permanent link ]
 
"Lord Hatred" <lordhatred@spammel­atergmail.com> wrote in message
news:lordhatred-B66­8C4.00432730052005@n­ewsclstr01.news.prod­igy.com...> In article <0ZidnYnfhOJ9CwffRV­n-vA@buckeye-express­.com>,> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:>
"Lord Hatred" <lordhatred@spammel­atergmail.com> wrote in message> > news:lordhatred-9F5­9E8.00111630052005@n­ewsclstr01.news.prod­igy.com...> > >
Do you not understand the difference between a media organization> > > making up a story and their source going back on their claims?> > >
Their claims have been thouroughly discredited, but they haven't fully> > accepted that the incident didn't happen:> >
Newsweek's story was in no way, 'right'. It has been fully discredited.> >
The story? Or the specific act? Notice the difference between what he> says and what you imply. Not the same.>

The story was false. The specific act never occured. He says that the
Newsweek story, which claimed that government documents confirmed that the
Koran was desicrated, was right. That is not a factual statement. We have
a document which confirms the Koran was "mishandled". The examples given
could in no reasonable way be considered "desicration".
You take it on faith that Newsweek's 'anonomous, who never seen such> > documents but thought he might have heard something similar to that,
source'> > was real, but even if it was, why use a source who even states that is
not even 50% accurate for a story that they print as being true?>
You ask me as if I care. Yet you dodged answering my question.>

Because you attempted to defend Newsweek for relying on a source which never
presented itself a accurate. The 'anonomous, who never seen such documents
but thought he might have heard something similar to that, source' was on
which you seem to defend as acceptable for a legitimate news source.




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Hmph! 30 May 2005 09:25:57 permanent link ]
 
"C The Shocker" <chrispdx@comcast.F­UCKOFFSPAMMERS.net> wrote in message
news:epmdnX_mxeTmPw­ffRVn-rA@comcast.com­...> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in message> news:xoednTxCdddP4Q­ffRVn-vw@buckeye-exp­ress.com...> > After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet story,
which> > news organization will be the next to make up a majorly false story?>
Just watch Fox, they do it every day.>

Please cite examples.




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the Bede 30 May 2005 09:31:37 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in message
news:d42dnRXltM5oBw­ffRVn-qg@buckeye-exp­ress.com...>
I acknowledge that Newsweek was correct when they published the word
"the".>
TAP
TAP
TAP
TAP
TAP


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Hmph! 30 May 2005 09:34:51 permanent link ]
 
"the Bede" <rspwsownthebede@ya­hoo.com> wrote in message
news:Wyxme.790$VQ3.­67@lakeread06...> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in message> news:d42dnRXltM5oBw­ffRVn-qg@buckeye-exp­ress.com...> >
I acknowledge that Newsweek was correct when they published the word> "the".> >

I bow to you sir. You have truely schooled me in this debate.




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the Bede 30 May 2005 09:40:32 permanent link ]
 
"hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in message
news:8vOdnW3m98IQPg­ffRVn-pg@buckeye-exp­ress.com...>
"C The Shocker" <chrispdx@comcast.F­UCKOFFSPAMMERS.net> wrote in message> news:epmdnX_mxeTmPw­ffRVn-rA@comcast.com­...> > "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in message> > news:xoednTxCdddP4Q­ffRVn-vw@buckeye-exp­ress.com...> > > After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet story,> which> > > news organization will be the next to make up a majorly false story?> >
Just watch Fox, they do it every day.> >
Please cite examples.>
FauxSnooz doesn't have to make stuff up. they just read K-Rove's memos and
don't bother checking them out.


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Hmph! 30 May 2005 09:42:50 permanent link ]
 
"Lord Hatred" <lordhatred@spammel­atergmail.com> wrote in message
news:lordhatred-FE6­F45.01365630052005@n­ewsclstr01.news.prod­igy.com...> In article <SqCdnb0YgKbsPgffRV­n-jg@buckeye-express­.com>,> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:>
"Lord Hatred" <lordhatred@spammel­atergmail.com> wrote in message> > news:lordhatred-439­ACF.01034430052005@n­ewsclstr01.news.prod­igy.com...> > > I never defended it. I think every news agency is incredibly> > > irresponsible.> > >
On that we both agree.>
Let's leave it at that then since I really don't care.>

Okay.




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Hmph! 30 May 2005 09:46:44 permanent link ]
 
"the Bede" <rspwsownthebede@ya­hoo.com> wrote in message
news:hHxme.791$VQ3.­74@lakeread06...>
"hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in message> news:8vOdnW3m98IQPg­ffRVn-pg@buckeye-exp­ress.com...> >
"C The Shocker" <chrispdx@comcast.F­UCKOFFSPAMMERS.net> wrote in message> > news:epmdnX_mxeTmPw­ffRVn-rA@comcast.com­...> > > "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in message> > > news:xoednTxCdddP4Q­ffRVn-vw@buckeye-exp­ress.com...> > > > After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet story,> > which> > > > news organization will be the next to make up a majorly false story?> > >
Just watch Fox, they do it every day.> > >
Please cite examples.> >
FauxSnooz doesn't have to make stuff up. they just read K-Rove's memos
don't bother checking them out.>

You fail to realize that Rove is just a puppet to the real mastermind behind
the "Vast Rightwing Conspiracy". By the time you liberals realise that HHH
is the mastermind it will be too late.




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John Henry 30 May 2005 09:50:09 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in
news:xoednTxCdddP4Q­ffRVn-vw@buckeye-exp­ress.com:
After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet story,

* troll.



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than to be loved for being who you are not.
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Hmph! 30 May 2005 09:56:41 permanent link ]
 
"John Henry" <jhd@NOSPAMinsurgen­t.orgNOSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns9666120C765­E0johnhenrylowgenius­co@216.168.3.44...> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in> news:xoednTxCdddP4Q­ffRVn-vw@buckeye-exp­ress.com:>
After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet story,>
* troll.>

Please provide any evidence you have ehich contradicts that statement.
Remember, "the Jews did it" is not a credible defense.




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Poot Rootbeer 30 May 2005 10:17:12 permanent link ]
 John Henry <jhd@NOSPAMinsurgen­t.orgNOSPAM> wrote:> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:>> After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet story,>
* troll.

I'd give him at least ** based on the number of responses he's gotten.
Gotta give him SOME credit.

-Poot
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Hmph! 30 May 2005 10:21:47 permanent link ]
 
"Poot Rootbeer" <poot@dork.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9666171A46A­5Epootrootbeer@216.1­96.97.136...> John Henry <jhd@NOSPAMinsurgen­t.orgNOSPAM> wrote:> > "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:> >> After Newsweek was found to be 100% wrong on the Koran/Toilet story,> >
* troll.>
I'd give him at least ** based on the number of responses he's gotten.> Gotta give him SOME credit.>

You have certainly failed to back up your post in this thread.




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Poot Rootbeer 30 May 2005 10:22:23 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:> You have certainly failed to back up your post in this thread.

"failed to back up my post"?

What does that even mean?

-Poot
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Krusty 30 May 2005 10:25:04 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote> Newsweek reported that the Koran was "desicrated" and that it was > confirmed> to have happened in a government document. That is unequivacally false.

Actually, I just read the article in its entirety. It says no such thing.

Dude, you haven't even read the article.


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Poot Rootbeer 30 May 2005 10:26:59 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:> We have an acknowldgement of five instances of the Koran being > "mishandled", only three of which have been deemed to have occured on > purpose.>
Which incident do you consider to be "desicration"? The one where> the Koran was accidently dropped?

So the Koran was "accidently" dropped... on PURPOSE?

-Poot
what

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Poot Rootbeer 30 May 2005 10:29:29 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:> Logic would dictate that when no evidence of an act exists, the act did > not occure.

No.

-Poot
unless "occure" has connotations that "occur" does not

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Hmph! 30 May 2005 10:33:20 permanent link ]
 
"Poot Rootbeer" <poot@dork.com> wrote in message
news:Xns966617FA97E­E2pootrootbeer@216.1­96.97.136...> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:> > You have certainly failed to back up your post in this thread.>
"failed to back up my post"?>
What does that even mean?>

It means that:

"The STORY was that Americans at Gitmo were desecrating the Islamic holy
book. The toilet story was one illustrative example of that
desecration.

While the SPECIFIC INCIDENT alleged has not been proven to have
occured, the GENERAL ALLEGATION has in fact been confirmed by the
Pentagon. At least 13 credible allegations of "mishandling" by
American guards and interrogators."

Was proven to be false by every report that has came out since the story.
There were no "credible" "desecrations" and only FIVE confirmed
"mishandlings" of the Koran. No "GENERAL ALLEGATION" from the Newsweek
story has been confirmed.

The Newsweek Story stated that a government document confirmed that the
toilet flushing incident had in fact occured. That has been found to be
false. The mishandling has only been reported to have been intentional in
three instances (which have been punished). The instances of "mishandling"
have included a Koran being accidently dropped, a Koran being placed on a
television, and a Koran being placed too close to food.

Your post includes quite a bit of misinformation which you have not included
any factual backing for.




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Krusty 30 May 2005 10:33:29 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote> The Newsweek Story stated that a government document confirmed that the> toilet flushing incident had in fact occured.

Again, no it didn't. You haven't read the article. It most certainly does
NOT say that.


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Hmph! 30 May 2005 10:34:48 permanent link ]
 
"Poot Rootbeer" <poot@dork.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9666192E12F­66pootrootbeer@216.1­96.97.136...> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:> > Logic would dictate that when no evidence of an act exists, the act did> > not occure.>
No.>
-Poot> unless "occure" has connotations that "occur" does not>

Another spelling flame! you should stick to those since you seem to be
unable to back up your claims with facts.




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Poot Rootbeer 30 May 2005 10:35:05 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:
"Poot Rootbeer" <poot@dork.com> wrote in message> news:Xns9666192E12F­66pootrootbeer@216.1­96.97.136...>> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:>> > Logic would dictate that when no evidence of an act exists, the>> > act did not occure.>>
No.>
Another spelling flame! you should stick to those since you seem> to be unable to back up your claims with facts.

No.

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Hmph! 30 May 2005 10:36:31 permanent link ]
 
"John Henry" <jhd@NOSPAMinsurgen­t.orgNOSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns966618D7581­5Bjohnhenrylowgenius­co@216.168.3.44...> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in> news:d42dnRXltM5oBw­ffRVn-qg@buckeye-exp­ress.com:>

Just stick with "the Jews did it". You will come across as just as
unrational and you will make just as much sense.

You anti-semetic peice of trash.




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John Henry 30 May 2005 10:37:12 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in
news:2NadncE0psM6BA­ffRVn-1A@buckeye-exp­ress.com:
In the future you should actually try to read past the headlines> before you argue current events.

PKf'nB, douchenozzle.

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than to be loved for being who you are not.
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Poot Rootbeer 30 May 2005 10:37:35 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:> Just stick with "the Jews did it". You will come across as just as> unrational and you will make just as much sense.>
You anti-semetic peice of trash.

What was that song Bruce Springsteen used to sing? Ah yes.

TENTH AVENUE KOOK-OUT!!!

-Poot
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Hmph! 30 May 2005 10:38:43 permanent link ]
 
"Poot Rootbeer" <poot@dork.com> wrote in message
news:Xns966618C2015­52pootrootbeer@216.1­96.97.136...> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:> > We have an acknowldgement of five instances of the Koran being> > "mishandled", only three of which have been deemed to have occured on> > purpose.> >
Which incident do you consider to be "desicration"? The one where> > the Koran was accidently dropped?>
So the Koran was "accidently" dropped... on PURPOSE?>

That was one instance of the Koran being "mishandled" accidentaly. The
purposeful accounts were:

The Koran was placed on a television.

The Koran was placed too close to food.

Try again




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Hmph! 30 May 2005 10:43:18 permanent link ]
 
"Poot Rootbeer" <poot@dork.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96661A8C625­Bpootrootbeer@216.19­6.97.136...> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:> > Just stick with "the Jews did it". You will come across as just as> > unrational and you will make just as much sense.> >
You anti-semetic peice of trash.>
What was that song Bruce Springsteen used to sing? Ah yes.>
TENTH AVENUE KOOK-OUT!!!>

The last actual debate I had with John Henry ended when he tried to defend
some ex General's statement that the Iraq war was done because "the Jews"
wanted it to happen. He is an anti-semetic piece of trash.




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Hmph! 30 May 2005 10:51:50 permanent link ]
 
"Krusty" <krusty@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Zsyme.8161$_z6­.722333@twister.sout­heast.rr.com...> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote> > The Newsweek Story stated that a government document confirmed that the> > toilet flushing incident had in fact occured.>
Again, no it didn't. You haven't read the article. It most certainly does> NOT say that.>

Yeas they did. The friggen Newy York Times even acknowledges that fact (
http://www.nytimes.­com/2005/05/26/polit­ics/26koran.html?ex=­1274760000&en=dec53a­3139a42ae0&ei=5090&p­artner=rssuserland&e­mc=rss)

Newsweek however has removed the article from their website. The closest
thing we have is an instance of an inmate throwing a Koran on or near a
toilet ( http://www.msnbc.ms­n.com/id/7937016/sit­e/newsweek/ ).

You are wrong. If you want to argue the merits of the prison in Cuba you
should do so.




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John Henry 30 May 2005 10:53:25 permanent link ]
 "Krusty" <krusty@sc.rr.com> wrote in
news:Zsyme.8161$_z6­.722333@twister.sout­heast.rr.com:
"hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote>> The Newsweek Story stated that a government document confirmed that>> the toilet flushing incident had in fact occured.>
Again, no it didn't. You haven't read the article. It most certainly> does NOT say that.

But if it did, it would be 100% accurate, since a government document
does, indeed, confirm that the toilet flushing incident had in fact
occurred.

Granted, I'm told that a later document insists that it didn't occur and
the claimant had reneged on his claim, but then torture and coercion seem
to be a way of life down in GTMO, and there are literally hundreds of
instances throughout the recently released documents showing where people
said anything their captors wanted to hear in order to stop the
torture...which is, of course, why nobody uses torture anymore, because
it produces unreliable results.

The really hard stuff can be found at
http://www.aclu.org­/torturefoia/release­d/052505/

And an overview, along with thousands of pages of other government
documents relative to the ritual abuse of prisoners in GTMO - including
the deliberate use and mistreatment and desecration of the Koran as a
means of psychological warfare - can be found
http://action.aclu.­org/site/PageServer?­pagename=torturefoia­

Not that, you know, I'd want to back up my post or anything.

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John Henry 30 May 2005 10:58:47 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in
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Newsweek reported that the Koran was "desicrated" and that it was> confirmed to have happened in a government document. That is> unequivacally false.

No it isn't, as I've repeatedly pointed out in this thread. I mean, I can
post scans of the original government documents if you'd like, but that
would be kinda redundant since the ACLU already *has* scans of the original
government documents posted on *their* site...

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Hmph! 30 May 2005 11:01:24 permanent link ]
 
"Krusty" <krusty@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4lyme.8159$_z6­.721994@twister.sout­heast.rr.com...> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote> > Newsweek reported that the Koran was "desicrated" and that it was> > confirmed> > to have happened in a government document. That is unequivacally false.>
Actually, I just read the article in its entirety. It says no such thing.>
Dude, you haven't even read the article.>

Actually:

"May 9 issue - Investigators probing interrogation abuses at the U.S.
detention center at Guantanamo Bay have confirmed some infractions alleged
in internal FBI e-mails that surfaced late last year. Among the previously
unreported cases, sources tell NEWSWEEK: interrogators, in an attempt to
rattle suspects, flushed a Qur'an down a toilet and led a detainee around
with a collar and dog leash. "

So yes, Newsweek stated that the toilet flushing was "confirmed" when in
fact it wasn't. All non Koran desicration allegations have not been
confirmed and considering the source (anonymous, and not having seen any
actual documents), you have nothing more than conjecture to base your
arguement on.




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John Henry 30 May 2005 11:02:59 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in
news:NpWdncULJ5AyKA­ffRVn-uw@buckeye-exp­ress.com:
"Poot Rootbeer" <poot@dork.com> wrote in message> news:Xns96661A8C625­Bpootrootbeer@216.19­6.97.136...>> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:>> > Just stick with "the Jews did it". You will come across as just as>> > unrational and you will make just as much sense.>> >
You anti-semetic peice of trash.>>
What was that song Bruce Springsteen used to sing? Ah yes.>>
TENTH AVENUE KOOK-OUT!!!>>
The last actual debate I had with John Henry ended when he tried to> defend some ex General's statement that the Iraq war was done because> "the Jews" wanted it to happen. He is an anti-semetic piece of trash.

I don't remember this. Please provide proof of this allegation.


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Krusty 30 May 2005 11:05:13 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote> "May 9 issue - Investigators probing interrogation abuses at the U.S.> detention center at Guantanamo Bay have confirmed some infractions alleged> in internal FBI e-mails that surfaced late last year. Among the previously> unreported cases, sources tell NEWSWEEK: interrogators, in an attempt to> rattle suspects, flushed a Qur'an down a toilet and led a detainee around> with a collar and dog leash. "

Now you're changing the goal posts.

You wrote:
Newsweek reported that the Koran was "desicrated" and that it was confirmed
to have happened in a government document.

Both not even in the article. You're wrong. No mention of "desecration" (the
word doesn't even appear in the article) nor was it "confirmed to have
happened in a government document".

So you lied. You didn't even read the article. Discussion over.


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John Henry 30 May 2005 11:10:38 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in news:vYidnTHDwvyHJQ­ffRVn-1w@buckeye-
express.com:
You certianly spouted a large amount of bile, but you failed to cite an> example of Fox News fabricating a story.

That's because I'm too lazy to go dig the book out right now.

But hey, here's one to get you started:

http://www.guardian­.co.uk/uselections20­04/story/0,13918,131­9075,00.html

And since yo appear to be too goddamned stupid to operate a search engine:

http://www.google.c­om/search?q=fox+news­+fabrication

Go nuts, big guy.

Oh, wait. You've obviously already done that. Well, have a good time
anwyay.

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the Bede 30 May 2005 11:11:36 permanent link ]
 
"hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in message
news:NpWdncULJ5AyKA­ffRVn-uw@buckeye-exp­ress.com...>
"Poot Rootbeer" <poot@dork.com> wrote in message> news:Xns96661A8C625­Bpootrootbeer@216.19­6.97.136...> > "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:> > > Just stick with "the Jews did it". You will come across as just as> > > unrational and you will make just as much sense.> > >
You anti-semetic peice of trash.> >
What was that song Bruce Springsteen used to sing? Ah yes.> >
TENTH AVENUE KOOK-OUT!!!> >
The last actual debate I had with John Henry ended when he tried to defend> some ex General's statement that the Iraq war was done because "the Jews"> wanted it to happen. He is an anti-semetic piece of trash.>
why do you hate the Black Muslims so much?


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Hmph! 30 May 2005 11:27:13 permanent link ]
 
"John Henry" <jhd@NOSPAMinsurgen­t.orgNOSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns96661E66019­B7johnhenrylowgenius­co@216.168.3.44...> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in> news:NpWdncULJ5AyKA­ffRVn-uw@buckeye-exp­ress.com:>
"Poot Rootbeer" <poot@dork.com> wrote in message> > news:Xns96661A8C625­Bpootrootbeer@216.19­6.97.136...> >> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:> >> > Just stick with "the Jews did it". You will come across as just as> >> > unrational and you will make just as much sense.> >> >
You anti-semetic peice of trash.> >>
What was that song Bruce Springsteen used to sing? Ah yes.> >>
TENTH AVENUE KOOK-OUT!!!> >>
The last actual debate I had with John Henry ended when he tried to> > defend some ex General's statement that the Iraq war was done because> > "the Jews" wanted it to happen. He is an anti-semetic piece of trash.>
I don't remember this. Please provide proof of this allegation.>

My post from Google (since you deleted all your posts):

"hmph! May 27 2004, 6:33 pm show options

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216.168.3.44...> Hi, hmph!! This is a friendly line to let people know who I'm talking> to!


(Snip)

They were wrong then, they are wrong now. As an> > aside, General Zinni is a delusional fool who thinks "the Jews" are> > pulling the strings behind the Iraq war.
Evidence that Zinni thinks this and that he is wrong in thinking this?



The fact that you feel the idea that "the Jews" are behind this has any
merit proves to me that you are nothing more than another delusional,
paranoid, moronic, anti-Semite. I had believed that you might actually be
worth discussing issues with. I was obviously very wrong on that point.
Enjoy your conspiracy theories, kook. "

Link:
http://groups-beta.­google.com/group/rec­.sport.pro-wrestling­/browse_frm/thread/c­4f05fe3b89e943b/0101­0c6dfa5d595b?q=hmph+­%22zinni%22+group:re­c.sport.pro-wrestlin­g&rnum=1&hl=en#01010­c6dfa5d595b

Where Zinni blamed "the Jews":

http://www.nytimes.­com/2005/05/26/polit­ics/26koran.html?ex=­1274760000&en=dec53a­3139a42ae0&ei=5090&p­artner=rssuserland&e­mc=rss

"
"Well, it starts with at the top. If you're the secretary of defense and
you're responsible for that. If you're responsible for that planning and
that execution on the ground. If you've assumed responsibility for the other
elements, non-military, non-security, political, economic, social and
everything else, then you bear responsibility," says Zinni. "Certainly those
in your ranks that foisted this strategy on us that is flawed. Certainly
they ought to be gone and replaced."

Zinni is talking about a group of policymakers within the administration
known as "the neo-conservatives" who saw the invasion of Iraq as a way to
stabilize American interests in the region and strengthen the position of
Israel. They include Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz; Undersecretary
of Defense Douglas Feith; Former Defense Policy Board member Richard Perle;
National Security Council member Eliot Abrams; and Vice President Cheney's
chief of staff, Lewis "Scooter" Libby. "






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Hmph! 30 May 2005 11:32:37 permanent link ]
 
"Krusty" <krusty@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:JWyme.5485$az3­.587913@twister.sout­heast.rr.com...> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote> > "May 9 issue - Investigators probing interrogation abuses at the U.S.> > detention center at Guantanamo Bay have confirmed some infractions
alleged> > in internal FBI e-mails that surfaced late last year. Among the
previously> > unreported cases, sources tell NEWSWEEK: interrogators, in an attempt to> > rattle suspects, flushed a Qur'an down a toilet and led a detainee
around> > with a collar and dog leash. ">
Now you're changing the goal posts.>
You wrote:> Newsweek reported that the Koran was "desicrated" and that it was
confirmed> to have happened in a government document.>
Both not even in the article. You're wrong. No mention of "desecration"
(the> word doesn't even appear in the article) nor was it "confirmed to have> happened in a government document".>
So you lied. You didn't even read the article. Discussion over.>

Check page two of the article:

"Though complaints about the handling of the Koran were routine, the former
interrogator said, the situation eventually escalated. "It was two things
that brought the desecration issue to a higher level," the former
interrogator said. "The rumor spread among detainees that a Koran had been
flushed down a toilet and that some interrogators brought Korans to the
interrogation sessions and stood on them, kicked them around." The former
interrogator had not witnessed those occurrences."




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Hmph! 30 May 2005 11:38:43 permanent link ]
 
"John Henry" <jhd@NOSPAMinsurgen­t.orgNOSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns96661FB1F96­B1johnhenrylowgenius­co@216.168.3.44...> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in news:vYidnTHDwvyHJQ­ffRVn-1w@buckeye-> express.com:>
You certianly spouted a large amount of bile, but you failed to cite an> > example of Fox News fabricating a story.>
That's because I'm too lazy to go dig the book out right now.>
But hey, here's one to get you started:>
And since yo appear to be too goddamned stupid to operate a search engine:>
Go nuts, big guy.>
Oh, wait. You've obviously already done that. Well, have a good time> anwyay.>

Wow! You sure showed me that the guy who runs Fox New's website posted a
false story about Kerry being a "metrosexual". I bet "the Jews" were behind
it.




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the Bede 30 May 2005 18:27:53 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote in message
news:l7adneQTgY42Xw­ffRVn-1g@buckeye-exp­ress.com...>
Wow! You sure showed me that the guy who runs Fox New's website posted a> false story about Kerry being a "metrosexual". I bet "the Jews" were
behind> it.>
only the CONservative ones. Reformeders and Orthodoxers are okay.


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Chad Bryant 30 May 2005 19:45:48 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" writes:
"Poot Rootbeer" <poot@dork.com> wrote in message> news:Xns96661A8C625­Bpootrootbeer@216.19­6.97.136...>> "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:>> > Just stick with "the Jews did it". You will come across as just as>> > unrational and you will make just as much sense.>> >
You anti-semetic peice of trash.>>
What was that song Bruce Springsteen used to sing? Ah yes.>>
TENTH AVENUE KOOK-OUT!!!>>
The last actual debate I had with John Henry ended when he tried to> defend some ex General's statement that the Iraq war was done because> "the Jews" wanted it to happen. He is an anti-semetic piece of trash.

I don't know which Memorial Day weekend self-spank was worse - Frobitch the
hoosier script-kiddie posting a "Colonel Graff" troll under his own ID, or
"hmph!" going for the Semitic cheap heat.

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Poot Rootbeer 30 May 2005 21:36:20 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:> You are wrong. If you want to argue the merits of the prison in> Cuba you should do so.

The Guantanamo Bay facility is ON the ISLAND of Cuba, but is not IN Cuba.

What else are you wrong about?

-Poot
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Poot Rootbeer 30 May 2005 21:42:25 permanent link ]
 "hmph!" <hmph!@none.none> wrote:> Except he failed to include the rest of my post:>
"This is especially true when all> evidence proves that the act did not, in fact, occure.">
Minus the misspelling, the logic is sound.

No.

-Poot
if it is not true in the first place, it cannot be
"especially true" when some further condition is met.
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