The Love Child Of Amy Dumas And Adam Copeland 25 March 2005 00:06:10 [ permanent link ]
<livingdjinn@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1111694107.712036.90120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...> I will refute you if you disagree.>
Stargate SG-1 *is* the best sci-fi series on television. Farscape was horrible with a bunch of crappy actors and puppets. Hell, the puppets were better than the real actors. Thank god they cancelled it...
The Love Child Of Amy Dumas And Adam Copeland wrote:> <livingdjinn@yahoo.com> wrote in message> news:1111694107.712036.90120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...> > I will refute you if you disagree.> >
Stargate SG-1 *is* the best sci-fi series on television. Farscape was> horrible with a bunch of crappy actors and puppets. Hell, the puppets
were> better than the real actors. Thank god they cancelled it...
Stargate is a bunch of shitty actors standing around in dumb looking army clothes talking, lame aliens, and fake looking special effects. Those "puppets" were the best thing about Farscape, I bet you're a Star Trak fan and you want aliens to look like human beings with makeup on their foreheads. Douchebag.
<livingdjinn@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1111694107.712036.90120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...>I will refute you if you disagree.
I do not agree. It appeared extremely pointless with more mindgames than actual creative thought about new technologies and space. Also, the lead actor in the series was usually unconvincing and failed to sell the scripts he was voicing. This is another one of those series in which it appeared the producers and Scifi Channel simply are not in this for the science fiction. They do not appear to believe in science fiction as an art form. They seem to have another agenda and in that series at least one of the crew had an androgynous appearance and persona.
The Love Child Of Amy Dumas And Adam Copeland 25 March 2005 00:34:59 [ permanent link ]
"John Shocked" <jshocked@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:kjF0e.757$Mt5.13@fed1read01...> <livingdjinn@yahoo.com> wrote in message> news:1111694107.712036.90120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...> >I will refute you if you disagree.>
I do not agree. It appeared extremely pointless with more mindgames than> actual creative thought about new technologies and space. Also, the lead> actor in the series was usually unconvincing and failed to sell the
scripts
IAWT. Ben Browder sucks and he's going to make Season 9 of Stargate SG-1 unwatchable. I wish RDA wasn't leaving the show.
<livingdjinn@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1111694107.712036.90120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...> I will refute you if you disagree.> Babylon 5 makes with the waving of the hello.
"The Love Child Of Amy Dumas And Adam Copeland" <exist2inspireMattitude@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:88a38$4243225f$4034c182$32494@allthenewsgroups.com...> "John Shocked" <jshocked@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:kjF0e.757$Mt5.13@fed1read01...>> <livingdjinn@yahoo.com> wrote in message>> news:1111694107.712036.90120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...>> >I will refute you if you disagree.>> I do not agree. It appeared extremely pointless with more mindgames than>> actual creative thought about new technologies and space. Also, the lead>> actor in the series was usually unconvincing and failed to sell the >> scripts>
IAWT. Ben Browder sucks and he's going to make Season 9 of Stargate SG-1> unwatchable. I wish RDA wasn't leaving the show.
I never heard that. You mean Browder is replacing Anderson ? They are both unconvincing actors. If they are determined to use a Scifi Channel guy, maybe the guy from First Wave, though Browder is taller and is American. Surely there are other actors out there. I guess I have mixed feelings about this: Anderson is by far the worst actor in science fiction history, thanksfully he is being replaced. But by a joke of an actor like Browder ? Browder would have a better shot in a daytime soap.
The Love Child Of Amy Dumas And Adam Copeland writed:> "John Shocked" <jshocked@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:kjF0e.757$Mt5.13@fed1read01...> > <livingdjinn@yahoo.com> wrote in message> > news:1111694107.712036.90120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...> > >I will refute you if you disagree.> >
I do not agree. It appeared extremely pointless with more
mindgames than> > actual creative thought about new technologies and space. Also, the lead> > actor in the series was usually unconvincing and failed to sell the> scripts>
IAWT. Ben Browder sucks and he's going to make Season 9 of Stargate
SG-1> unwatchable. I wish RDA wasn't leaving the show.
when John Shocked buried him beneath the willow, the angels sang a whiskey lullabye:
<livingdjinn@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1111694107.712036.90120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...>>I will refute you if you disagree.>
I do not agree. It appeared extremely pointless with more
mindgames than > actual creative thought about new technologies and space. Also, the lead > actor in the series was usually unconvincing and failed to sell the scripts > he was voicing.> This is another one of those series in which it appeared the producers and > Scifi Channel simply are not in this for the science fiction. They do not > appear to believe in science fiction as an art form.> They seem to have another agenda and in that series at least one of the crew > had an androgynous appearance and persona.>
Politics>
Most of what the sci-fi channel calls sci-fi is either backwashing old ideas that were done better years previous, or the best attempt they can make on ideas with TV budgets. Their hour of triumph was Dune and Children of Dune, and the rest really hasn't yet measured up.
Evil Sideshow Bob 25 March 2005 02:51:26 [ permanent link ]
livingdjinn@yahoo.com, sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion!
I will refute you if you disagree.
If by "Farscape" you mean "Babylon 5" then IAWTP.
--
Marty DiBergi: It's very pretty.
Nigel Tufnel: Yeah, I've been fooling around with it for a few months.
Marty DiBergi: It's a bit of a departure from what you normally play.
Nigel Tufnel: It's part of a trilogy, a musical trilogy I'm working on in D minor which is the saddest of all keys, I find. People weep instantly when they hear it, and I don't know why.
Marty DiBergi: It's very nice.
Nigel Tufnel: You know, just simple lines intertwining, you know, very much like - I'm really influenced by Mozart and Bach, and it's sort of in between those, really. It's like a Mach piece, really. It's sort of...
Marty DiBergi: What do you call this?
Nigel Tufnel: Well, this piece is called "Lick My Love Pump".
"Ilya the Recusant" <qin@deadspam.net> wrote in message news:jt0741p5lnbhkmftd3qfnteqs868jkul06@4ax.com...> In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, forge> <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote:>>In article <240320051712325384%nospam@nospam.com>,>> Quiet Desperation <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:>>> In article <1111694107.712036.90120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,>>> <livingdjinn@yahoo.com> wrote:>>> > I will refute you if you disagree.>>> Dug Farscape heavily, but Cowboy Bebop is in my #1 spot.>>And, by vague association, Firefly was a bit better than Farscape, but>>just a bit.> Dr. Who forever.> *shakes fist*> Ilya the Recusant
Definitely, the Scifi Channel should be showing Dr. Who. I cannot believe they are showing crap like Quantum Leap, instead of Doctor Who, which is the show which began this whole Scifi world. What a disgrace.
Captain Murphy 25 March 2005 17:44:15 [ permanent link ]
"John Shocked" <jshocked@hotmail.com> said:>Definitely, the Scifi Channel should be showing Dr. Who. I cannot believe >they are showing crap like Quantum Leap, instead of Doctor Who, which is the >show which began this whole Scifi world. What a disgrace.
David Brewer wrote:> > livingdjinn@yahoo.com wrote:> >
I will refute you if you disagree.> >
It's "Blake's 7" with muppets.> >
Ahhh! Blake's 7. The only spacecraft in the galaxy with an apparently> wooden floor!>
In Farscape, they carry on the tradition and use Maglite flashlights.
-- Personal accounts are good because they lessen the liability against future taxes of the retiree while sequestering the funds he's been paying in so they cannot be used to mask current general fund deficits.
In article <240320051712325384%nospam@nospam.com>,> Quiet Desperation <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:>
In article <1111694107.712036.90120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,> > <livingdjinn@yahoo.com> wrote:> >
I will refute you if you disagree.> >
Dug Farscape heavily, but Cowboy Bebop is in my #1 spot.>
And, by vague association, Firefly was a bit better than Farscape, but> just a bit.>
Watch the first ep of both and tell us if you can see *any* differences other than in Firefly they use attempt to suggest they are in the US Civil War Wild West by using old revolvers.
-- Personal accounts are good because they lessen the liability against future taxes of the retiree while sequestering the funds he's been paying in so they cannot be used to mask current general fund deficits.
In article <Xo71e.16832$U87.7723@fe04.lga>, jetgraphics <jetgraphics@no_spamcharter.net> wrote:
2. "I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your > head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations, > that some favors come at too high a price. I would look up at your > lifeless eyes and wave just like this. Can you and your associates > arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?" - Vir's Reply to Mr. Morden's "What do> you want?"
And a couple of years later, he got to look up at Mr. Morden's head on a pike, and wave, just like that.
Though Farscape was entertaining, the award for BEST Sci-Fi TV series in> history must go to Babylon 5.
If that's the best that's ever been in history, I'd hate to see the worst. Babylon 5 had the worst acting, worst effects, worst dialogue, and worst production of any show I've ever seen. Outside of it's core fanatics, no one likes it, and it rightfully made a quick exit in to obscurity once it ended.
In contrast, Babylon 5 had a rich alien culture, great character> development, pathos, sacrifice, mystery, biological intensity
Ooooh biological intensity! What the hell does that mean?
-- Rockboy We've brought someone in to shut you up It's a life's work
Captain Murphy 26 March 2005 16:44:05 [ permanent link ]
Rockboy <rockboy@rockboy.net> said:>If that's the best that's ever been in history, I'd hate to see the >worst. Babylon 5 had the worst acting, worst effects, worst dialogue, >and worst production of any show I've ever seen.
I'm sorry you don't own a TV. You should buy one. They're fun.
Outside of it's core fanatics, no one likes it, and it rightfully made >a quick exit in to obscurity once it ended.
Uh... no. It's actually hugely successful. How's life under your rock?
"Captain Murphy" <sealab2021@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:h6ma4119i4d657efsbdo82795kp0706ktj@4ax.com...> Rockboy <rockboy@rockboy.net> said:> >If that's the best that's ever been in history, I'd hate to see the> >worst. Babylon 5 had the worst acting, worst effects, worst dialogue,> >and worst production of any show I've ever seen.>
I'm sorry you don't own a TV. You should buy one. They're fun.
LOL! Good one!
Outside of it's core fanatics, no one likes it, and it rightfully
made> >a quick exit in to obscurity once it ended.>
Uh... no. It's actually hugely successful. How's life under your
rock?
Yeah, all those DVD sales must just be a fluke.
-- Mac Breck (KoshN) ------------------------------- "Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999) Galen: "There is always hope, only because it's the one thing that no one has figured out how to kill yet." (Galen's obviously never met Warner Brothers, TNT-Atlanta or Sci-Fi.)
"Brimstone" (1998) The Devil: Nobody beats the Devil. Are you listening? Did you hear what I said, Mr. Stone? Nobody beats the Devil. Ezekiel Stone: So you keep telling me. <enjoying his Reggie Bar> Go to Hell...<smiles and pushes the Down button on the elevator> ...please.
"Bill Bonde ('That he not busy being born')" <stderr@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijk.com> wrote in news:42445FA2.4046523B@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw xyzabcdefghijk.com:
Mike O'Sullivan wrote:>>
David Brewer wrote:>> > livingdjinn@yahoo.com wrote:>> >
I will refute you if you disagree.>> >
It's "Blake's 7" with muppets.>> >
Ahhh! Blake's 7. The only spacecraft in the galaxy with an apparently>> wooden floor!>>
In Farscape, they carry on the tradition and use Maglite flashlights.>
Form follows function. Back when the props were being purchased for ST:TOS, they went out and bought a bunch of "wierd, fururistic" salt and pepper shakers for the mess hall set. Problem was, nobody seeing them on film could figure out what they were, so they stole a few regular shakers from the Desilu cafeteria, and that's what got used on the set. Oh and the futuristic shakers? They became McCoy's medical instruments.
Rockdialog objected to what:> jetgraphics wrote:>> Though Farscape was entertaining, the award for BEST Sci-Fi TV series in>> history must go to Babylon 5.>
If that's the best that's ever been in history, I'd hate to see the> worst. Babylon 5 had the worst acting,
An example?
In rebuttal, I would suggest you review the episodes featuring Lorien, Sheridan and Z'ha'dum...
worst effects,
As compared to what? Dr Who? Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?
worst dialogue,
Are you referring to the same show? The dialog was fantastic. Name 10 great quotables from any other SciFi series. B5 folks can name hundreds of faves.
and worst production of any show I've ever seen.
Sets? CGI? Costumes? Perhaps the pilot episode was a bit thin, but afterwards, it settled down into its groove.
Outside of it's core > fanatics, no one likes it, and it rightfully made a quick exit in to> obscurity once it ended.
Quite the contrary. The show was popular enough to be rescued in its 4th year. And no, it's not obscure. It has generated its share of TV movies.
In contrast, Babylon 5 had a rich alien culture, great character>> development, pathos, sacrifice, mystery, biological intensity>
Ooooh biological intensity! What the hell does that mean?
Storylines dealing with biological intensity - Alien cultures that would rather let their children die rather than get polluted by infidels, mass murders and extinctions, losing an eye without anesthetics, using "insane" telepaths to cripple starships, transformations from Minbari to blend, and Human to Minbari.
In article <Xo71e.16832$U87.7723@fe04.lga>, jetgraphics <jetgraphics@no_spamcharter.net> wrote:
Snipped from other posts:> Top ten list of Babylon 5 lines. >
You missed one of my favourites:
"No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. What? Look, somebody's gotta have some damned perspective around here. Boom. Sooner or later. BOOM!" - Ivanova
"Mike O'Sullivan" <mike.osullivan3@btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:3ahu2eF68uub8U1@individual.net...> David Brewer wrote:>> livingdjinn@yahoo.com wrote:>>> I will refute you if you disagree.>> It's "Blake's 7" with muppets.> Ahhh! Blake's 7. The only spacecraft in the galaxy with an apparently > wooden floor!
Maybe that is all the BBC could afford. Or was it ITV ?
Outside of it's core >>fanatics, no one likes it, and it rightfully made a quick exit in to>>obscurity once it ended.>
Quite the contrary. The show was popular enough to be rescued in its 4th> year. And no, it's not obscure. It has generated its share of TV movies.
Oooh, I love fanboy logic. The show nearly being cancelled in it's fourth year is now a sign of it's popularity? I've seen some delusional rationalizations before, but nothing like this.
-- Rockboy We've brought someone in to shut you up It's a life's work
Captain Murphy 27 March 2005 00:48:55 [ permanent link ]
Rockboy <rockboy@rockboy.net> said:>Oooh, I love fanboy logic. The show nearly being cancelled in it's >fourth year is now a sign of it's popularity? I've seen some delusional >rationalizations before, but nothing like this.
Captain Murphy doesn't have the BALLS to answer me:> > Uh... no. It's actually hugely successful. How's life under your rock?>
Yeah! It's bigger than Star Wars, Star Trek and Lord of the Rings> combined!!!>
The form is it's a million times bigger than X, Y, and Z combined, I mean if you are going for the "Whacking Day" Ep line from the Simpsons.
-- Personal accounts are good because they lessen the liability against future taxes of the retiree while sequestering the funds he's been paying in so they cannot be used to mask current general fund deficits.
Oooh, I love fanboy logic. The show nearly being cancelled in it's >>fourth year is now a sign of it's popularity? I've seen some delusional >>rationalizations before, but nothing like this.>
You're an idiot.
You're doing nothing to counter my statement.
-- Rockboy We've brought someone in to shut you up It's a life's work
In article <NMj1e.803469$6l.732553@pd7tw2no>, Rockboy <rockboy@rockboy.net> wrote:
Oooh, I love fanboy logic. The show nearly being cancelled in it's > fourth year is now a sign of it's popularity? I've seen some delusional > rationalizations before, but nothing like this.
Yeah, Star Trek was nearly canceled after its second season in 1968, and we all know what a no-profit POS that was.
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 00:22:51 GMT, Rockboy <rockboy@rockboy.net> wrote:
Captain Murphy wrote:>
Oooh, I love fanboy logic. The show nearly being cancelled in it's >>>fourth year is now a sign of it's popularity? I've seen some delusional >>>rationalizations before, but nothing like this.>>
You're an idiot.>
You're doing nothing to counter my statement.
Maybe he's just ignoring you because you're an idiot.
Captain Murphy 28 March 2005 05:39:17 [ permanent link ]
Sillyman@famous.com said:>On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 00:22:51 GMT, Rockboy <rockboy@rockboy.net> wrote:>>Captain Murphy wrote:>>>>Oooh, I love fanboy logic. The show nearly being cancelled in it's >>>>fourth year is now a sign of it's popularity? I've seen some delusional >>>>rationalizations before, but nothing like this.>>> You're an idiot.>>You're doing nothing to counter my statement.>Maybe he's just ignoring you because you're an idiot.
Outside of it's core>>>fanatics, no one likes it, and it rightfully made a quick exit in to>>>obscurity once it ended.>>
Quite the contrary. The show was popular enough to be rescued in its 4th>> year. And no, it's not obscure. It has generated its share of TV movies.>
Oooh, I love fanboy logic. The show nearly being cancelled in it's> fourth year is now a sign of it's popularity? I've seen some delusional> rationalizations before, but nothing like this.
If you weren't aware, the PTEN network's demise was one of the factors responsible for the snafu. ========================== From Usenet: "Joe has stated several times that Babylon 5 is a profitable show for WB. In point of fact, it had to be or they would have canceled it before now. IIRC, Joe has even gone so far as to say that B5 has been *very* profitable for WB. "Against this profit motive are arrayed the facts of the legal nightmare that PTEN's demise has become and the glut of new syndicated programming that threatens to absorb all the available time slots while WB dithers." =========================== "This concerns Babylon 5's cancellation. (Slightly edited to make sense.) * In 1997 WB canceled Babylon 5 four years into the five-year story-arc (which everybody had known about in advance from the beginning). - even though at the time they had already worked out a deal with TNT to purchase the back episodes, which means a fifth season would have been Guaranteed Profit. - even though TNT also worked out a deal for a series of Babylon 5 TV Movies (More Profit). - even though they had already been in talks with the Producers for a spin-off series AND a theatrically released Babylon 5 motion picture (More Profit). - even though the episodes were just now being released on Video Cassette (More Profit). - even though only just now were Babylon 5 merchandise beginning to be made (More Profit). - plus the Fact that with Babylon 5 airing 5 times a week on TNT, more people would tune in to see the new fifth season to get a glimpse of what is to come (More Ratings). - plus the Fact that even casual viewers would have tuned in to see the final episode, knowing full well that Babylon 5 will get blown up real good, promising a high rated series finale and quite possibly the highest rated episode of the program ever (had it stayed in Syndication). - plus the Fact that when the show was canceled, its ratings had actually gone up by 14%.
IMO, if that is not the dumbest ever cancellation in the history of television, I have no idea what is. =================== End ==========================
Oooh, I love fanboy logic. The show nearly being cancelled in it's >>>>>fourth year is now a sign of it's popularity? I've seen some delusional >>>>>rationalizations before, but nothing like this.>>>>
You're an idiot.>>>
You're doing nothing to counter my statement.>>
Maybe he's just ignoring you because you're an idiot.>
LOL! Bingo.
Then why do you keep replying to me?
-- Rockboy We've brought someone in to shut you up It's a life's work
Oooh, I love fanboy logic. The show nearly being cancelled in it's >>fourth year is now a sign of it's popularity? I've seen some delusional >>rationalizations before, but nothing like this.>
Yeah, Star Trek was nearly canceled after its second season in 1968, and > we all know what a no-profit POS that was.
Correct.
-- Rockboy We've brought someone in to shut you up It's a life's work
