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Orton shouldn't win against Taker?

Christy Hemme's Forehead 22 March 2005 01:18:44
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By Owen Duffy of Glasgow, Scotland
PWTorch.com reader

There's a tendency among wrestling fans to attach great importance to
statistics - Bill Goldberg's WCW winning streak, Bret Hart's undefeated run
of steel cage matches, and most topically, the Undertaker's 12-0 record at
WrestleMania.

With the biggest WWE event of the year just around the corner there's a
distinct possibility that Randy Orton may be the man to put an end to
Taker's run. The WWE has not been afraid to give Orton clean wins over
established industry figures in the attempt to push the "Legend Killer"
gimmick, and he holds victories over Mick Foley, Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair,
and Chris Benoit.

When Orton won the World Heavyweight Title in August 2004, only to be
attacked by his Evolution stablemates the next night on Raw, it seemed that
the WWE believed he was ready to be the Raw brand's foremost main event
babyface.

The face turn was botched, however. Orton's sub-standard microphone
abilities combined with a quick title loss to Triple H which diminished his
credibility as a championship contender left him stranded somewhere between
main event and upper mid-card status. There's a valid argument that a
WrestleMania win over the Undertaker would give Orton's character a boost
which is sorely required.

There is also, however, a danger that the fans will react with shrugged
shoulders. We've seen Orton defeat legends before. If he beats Taker at
WrestleMania, he will merely be following the "Legend Killer" precedent.

Instead, I believe that the WWE can use the upcoming match to raise Orton's
profile and to make subtle changes to his character, either salvaging his
babyface persona or, as I would prefer to see, pushing him as a full blown
heel.

The Orton-Undertaker match at WrestleMania should be fairly brutal. This
could be facilitated by a ref bump, but would more believably be provided
for by a no holds barred stipulation added at the last minute, requested by
the Undertaker in response to Orton's disrespectful attitude. The contest
should be reminiscent of some of the Attitude era street fights and include
whips into the steel ring stairs, brawling through the crowd, attacks with
TV cameras and creative use of the WrestleMania themed entranceway props.

Towards the end, an exhausted Orton hits a desperation RKO but doesn't have
the strength to go for the cover. When he finally drapes his arm across
Taker's chest he gets a 2.9 count. Frustrated beyond words, Randy grabs a
chair and waits for the Undertaker to stand. He charges in for a brutal
chair shot, only for the weapon to be rammed into his own face via an
Undertaker big boot. One Tombstone piledriver onto the chair later, Orton is
down for the three count and the Undertaker's record is an impressive 13-0.

Bloody, battered and, no doubt, coughing up splinters of Spanish announce
table, Orton should refuse medical assistance and walk back to the locker
room by himself, a la Steve Austin. Jim Ross makes it clear that there's no
shame in losing to the Undertaker, Randy Orton gave it everything he had,
and by God folks, we just witnessed one helluva slobberknocker.

In short, Randy can hold his head high and comes out of WrestleMania looking
like a legitimate tough guy. His character can now go in one of two
directions.

If the WWE is still intent on pushing Orton as a main event face then his
encounter with the Undertaker can give him a new found sense of humility. He
can lose the superiority complex that puts off a lot of fans and go on to
defeat Triple H and prove that he's genuine championship material.

The other option, and the one I would prefer, is to use the roster split to
put Orton and Undertaker on the same program. They can kick off a
long-running rivalry with Orton becoming a much darker, obsessive character
determined to end the Undertaker's career. With Taker due to retire in the
near future, a spectacular culmination of their feud could take place in a
Hell in a Cell match with Orton putting the Undertaker out of the wrestling
business forever and legitimately claiming the title of "Legend Killer."

Ultimately, the WWE should realize that a wrestler doesn't need back-to-back
wins over some of the biggest names in the business to get over. What's
really necessary is believable characterization and intelligent booking
against the right opponents. Randy Orton may or may not eventually carry the
company in the same way as The Rock, Steve Austin, or Hulk Hogan before him,
but it's a mistake to diminish the legacy of workers who have given their
entire working lives to the business in order to push one young potential
star.

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GregoryD 22 March 2005 01:43:43 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:18:44 -0500, Christy Hemme's Forehead wrote:

<snip>> Ultimately, the WWE should realize that a wrestler doesn't need back-to-back> wins over some of the biggest names in the business to get over. What's> really necessary is believable characterization and intelligent booking> against the right opponents. Randy Orton may or may not eventually carry the> company in the same way as The Rock, Steve Austin, or Hulk Hogan before him,> but it's a mistake to diminish the legacy of workers who have given their> entire working lives to the business in order to push one young potential> star.

Well, UT's legacy is that he's taken from others for 12 freaking years.
That's 12 years that, when the WWE invests the most time in building up
rivalries, he's come out on top. Vince gave him the gimmick and let him
run with it, and it's time he gives back.

GregoryD
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Araxen 22 March 2005 02:04:59 permanent link ]
 Christy Hemme's Forehead wrote:> Guest Editorial> By Owen Duffy of Glasgow, Scotland> PWTorch.com reader>
There's a tendency among wrestling fans to attach great importance to> statistics - Bill Goldberg's WCW winning streak, Bret Hart's undefeated run> of steel cage matches, and most topically, the Undertaker's 12-0 record at> WrestleMania.>
With the biggest WWE event of the year just around the corner there's a> distinct possibility that Randy Orton may be the man to put an end to> Taker's run. The WWE has not been afraid to give Orton clean wins over> established industry figures in the attempt to push the "Legend Killer"> gimmick, and he holds victories over Mick Foley, Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair,> and Chris Benoit.>
When Orton won the World Heavyweight Title in August 2004, only to be> attacked by his Evolution stablemates the next night on Raw, it seemed that> the WWE believed he was ready to be the Raw brand's foremost main event> babyface.>
The face turn was botched, however. Orton's sub-standard microphone> abilities combined with a quick title loss to Triple H which diminished his> credibility as a championship contender left him stranded somewhere between> main event and upper mid-card status. There's a valid argument that a> WrestleMania win over the Undertaker would give Orton's character a boost> which is sorely required.>
There is also, however, a danger that the fans will react with shrugged> shoulders. We've seen Orton defeat legends before. If he beats Taker at> WrestleMania, he will merely be following the "Legend Killer" precedent.>
Instead, I believe that the WWE can use the upcoming match to raise Orton's> profile and to make subtle changes to his character, either salvaging his> babyface persona or, as I would prefer to see, pushing him as a full blown> heel.>
The Orton-Undertaker match at WrestleMania should be fairly brutal. This> could be facilitated by a ref bump, but would more believably be provided> for by a no holds barred stipulation added at the last minute, requested by> the Undertaker in response to Orton's disrespectful attitude. The contest> should be reminiscent of some of the Attitude era street fights and include> whips into the steel ring stairs, brawling through the crowd, attacks with> TV cameras and creative use of the WrestleMania themed entranceway props.>
Towards the end, an exhausted Orton hits a desperation RKO but doesn't have> the strength to go for the cover. When he finally drapes his arm across> Taker's chest he gets a 2.9 count. Frustrated beyond words, Randy grabs a> chair and waits for the Undertaker to stand. He charges in for a brutal> chair shot, only for the weapon to be rammed into his own face via an> Undertaker big boot. One Tombstone piledriver onto the chair later, Orton is> down for the three count and the Undertaker's record is an impressive 13-0.>
Bloody, battered and, no doubt, coughing up splinters of Spanish announce> table, Orton should refuse medical assistance and walk back to the locker> room by himself, a la Steve Austin. Jim Ross makes it clear that there's no> shame in losing to the Undertaker, Randy Orton gave it everything he had,> and by God folks, we just witnessed one helluva slobberknocker.>
In short, Randy can hold his head high and comes out of WrestleMania looking> like a legitimate tough guy. His character can now go in one of two> directions.>
If the WWE is still intent on pushing Orton as a main event face then his> encounter with the Undertaker can give him a new found sense of humility. He> can lose the superiority complex that puts off a lot of fans and go on to> defeat Triple H and prove that he's genuine championship material.>
The other option, and the one I would prefer, is to use the roster split to> put Orton and Undertaker on the same program. They can kick off a> long-running rivalry with Orton becoming a much darker, obsessive character> determined to end the Undertaker's career. With Taker due to retire in the> near future, a spectacular culmination of their feud could take place in a> Hell in a Cell match with Orton putting the Undertaker out of the wrestling> business forever and legitimately claiming the title of "Legend Killer.">
Ultimately, the WWE should realize that a wrestler doesn't need back-to-back> wins over some of the biggest names in the business to get over. What's> really necessary is believable characterization and intelligent booking> against the right opponents. Randy Orton may or may not eventually carry the> company in the same way as The Rock, Steve Austin, or Hulk Hogan before him,> but it's a mistake to diminish the legacy of workers who have given their> entire working lives to the business in order to push one young potential> star.>
Let us know your thoughts on this Guest Editorial. To send us feedback,> click here.>
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Orton doesn't deserve a win over UT.
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David E. Powell 22 March 2005 04:45:03 permanent link ]
 Foley jobbed to Taker but cemented a reputation as a tough guy in WWF
beyond all doubt. (Of course Foley had that rep going back some years.)

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Logical Anomaly's Ego 22 March 2005 22:46:07 permanent link ]
 The REAL problem is that originally Orton should have been put over HHH
either "taking over Evolution" and staying heel, or played out the
string a bit longer and actually put him over HHH. I agree that
suddenly arranging an Orton Undertaker match makes little sense....same
with HBK Angle..although the personalities and abilities of those 2
alone will make that the best match on WM by far...even without the
right buildup.

If they weren't going to put Orton over HHH what was the point of
turning him face then?

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