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Serious point about the Atlanta Courthouse debacle..
Logical Anomaly's Ego 12 March 2005 21:25:08
	...setting aside all the arguments about Civil Liberties and being "chained up" at trial....here is my problem. THAT isn't to blame in this particular case as much as the idiots at the Sheriff's Dept. As I understand it, going by what I saw of CNN coverage...and admittedly my info could be wrong, so please correct me.....They had ONE female deputy, armed a day AFTER they found shanks on a 6ft 200lb former linebacker...WTF? Either you go full on Colin Powell...deputies armed to the gills WITH triangulation...meaning he can't get 2 feet without going down in a hail of bullets OR you don't have ANY weapons at all...and you have a lock down outside the room with weapons available at a seconds notice. Its an either or propostion.....Dear God what idiots are running that show? Again, I haven't been following minute by minute coverage so maybe I'm missing something about their postioning. Of course, shackles would have solved it completely, but besides that...the whole thing is absurd.
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David E. Powell 12 March 2005 21:54:25 [ permanent link ]
	Logical Anomaly's Ego wrote:> ...setting aside all the arguments about Civil Liberties and being> "chained up" at trial....here is my problem.> THAT isn't to blame in this particular case as much as the idiots at> the Sheriff's Dept. As I understand it, going by what I saw of CNN> coverage...and admittedly my info could be wrong, so please correct> me.....They had ONE female deputy, armed a day AFTER they found shanks> on a 6ft 200lb former linebacker...WTF? Either you go full on Colin> Powell...deputies armed to the gills WITH triangulation...meaning he> can't get 2 feet without going down in a hail of bullets OR you don't> have ANY weapons at all...and you have a lock down outside the room> with weapons available at a seconds notice. Its an either or> propostion.....Dear God what idiots are running that show? Again, I> haven't been following minute by minute coverage so maybe I'm missing> something about their postioning. Of course, shackles would have> solved it completely, but besides that...the whole thing is absurd. One attorney who had worked there in the courthouse had reccomended multiple deputies to guard prisoners, trained in martial arts but without firearms, as he had seen that work well in Japan. Supposedly the courtroom was not as secure as some others (the guy was being held in a room, not a cell, before being brought out) and the single deputy thing was a problem considering the guy had been bringing in weapons before. I guess the mistake was that a lot of what we consider security to be in courts and so on is mental. You see a couple armed people in uniform, you assume that if something breaks out large numbers of same will come quickly. Unfortunately in this case, the suspect was able to overcome one armed officer, commit murders and escape the containment before reinforcements arrived in large number, then kill another armed officer with the weapon obtained from the first. There probably aren't many criminals who could do that, or who'd try it instead of taking the chance in court. But whatever the stuff said about how the guy was handled, the main cause of all this is still that this was one nasty and motivated crook. I'd expect they will review it for security procedures nationwide, like the FBI looked at their training and weapons tactics after a shootout in the 1980s where some agents were killed. See <http://www.thegunzone.com/> Especially the report at <http://www.thegunzone.com/11april86.html> And <http://www.thegunzone.com/miami-ammo.html> Another case where you had seriously motivated and dangerous criminals. DEP Lots of other stuff there, but the "Tactical Page" stuff is pretty gross. The "Darwin Stuff" and "K9 bite" "Tough Way to Go" are not good.. trust me on this.
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the Bede 13 March 2005 00:21:51 [ permanent link ]
	"Jack Foley, Esq." <Jack_Foley_4Life@Yahoo.Commie> wrote in message news:Xns9617774686E8FJackFoley4LifeYahooC@68.6.19.6...> "Logical Anomaly's Ego" <TomServosAgent@aol.com> wrote in> news:1110648308.761753.241000@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:> > ...setting aside all the arguments about Civil Liberties and being> > "chained up" at trial....here is my problem.> > My problem is that courtroom sheriff's deputies are incompetant.> hahahaha this is such an understatement.
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Poot Rootbeer 13 March 2005 00:44:25 [ permanent link ]
	"the Bede" <rspwsownthebede@yahoo.com> wrote:>> My problem is that courtroom sheriff's deputies are incompetant.>> hahahaha this is such an understatement. When do you go work at the courthouse? When you're too stupid to work as a street cop, but aren't quite stupid enough to be a mall security guard.
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Freak Speely 13 March 2005 02:38:54 [ permanent link ]
	"Logical Anomaly's Ego" <TomServosAgent@aol.com> wrote in message news:1110648308.761753.241000@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...> ...setting aside all the arguments about Civil Liberties and being> "chained up" at trial....here is my problem.> THAT isn't to blame in this particular case as much as the idiots at> the Sheriff's Dept. As I understand it, going by what I saw of CNN> coverage...and admittedly my info could be wrong, so please correct> me.....They had ONE female deputy, armed a day AFTER they found shanks> on a 6ft 200lb former linebacker...WTF? Either you go full on Colin> Powell...deputies armed to the gills WITH triangulation...meaning he> can't get 2 feet without going down in a hail of bullets OR you don't> have ANY weapons at all...and you have a lock down outside the room> with weapons available at a seconds notice. Its an either or> propostion.....Dear God what idiots are running that show? Again, I> haven't been following minute by minute coverage so maybe I'm missing> something about their postioning. Of course, shackles would have> solved it completely, but besides that...the whole thing is absurd.> Two words..."South" and "lazy."
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