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GYXU > Kites, widsurfing, waterski > Re: How is your Board Quiver "Spaced "? 7 April 2005 01:37:20

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Re: How is your Board Quiver "Spaced "?

Kirk Robertson 26 March 2005 03:00:50
 I appreciate you starting this thread, I'm curious myself. I have a
Techno Formula, Techno 283 and 112 ltr Techno e. I'm thinking I can get
rid of the Techno 283 and get something around 90-95 ltrs for high wind
days.

Kirk
For me, I go from the longboard to my 112 liter Supercross. My "high"> wind board is an 85 liter Naish Wave. I feel like I have a large gap> their and kinda wish that Naish Wave was more like 90 liters....but> who's paying attention :)­.>
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Guest 26 March 2005 05:09:01 permanent link ]
 - Longboard: Starboard Carve 123
- Wave Board: starboard Carve 123
- Light Air Board: Starboard Carve 123
- High Wind Board: Starboard Carve 123

About 6'5", 220#...




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PeteCresswell
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Cliff Frost 26 March 2005 06:28:01 permanent link ]
 Starboard EVO 92 (92L)
F2 Xantos II 295 (133L or 135 maybe)
Mike's Lab Lab101 (dunno. maybe 150L. Formula race board)

-Cliff

Lucky <ktrubin@mtu.edu> wrote:> Just merely getting some conversation going on this....cause I'm> curious.
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Jeff McVannel 26 March 2005 06:35:03 permanent link ]
 Thanks for the fun topic.
76ltr 2 stroke Drops wave board
85ltr 7'8" wide custom woody Brian Peters (from Pistol River) wave board
89ltr Fanatic LW Goya wave board
105 ltr AHD Freestyle
I'm 6'1" 185
Jeff

"(Pete Cresswell)" <x@y.z.invalid> wrote in message
news:scd941hjp2fcqt­selkpufmi0hdvrjc7p9c­@4ax.com...> - Longboard: Starboard Carve 123> - Wave Board: starboard Carve 123> - Light Air Board: Starboard Carve 123> - High Wind Board: Starboard Carve 123>
About 6'5", 220#...>
-- > PeteCresswell


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Glenn Woodell 26 March 2005 15:16:48 permanent link ]
 On 25 Mar 2005 18:30:48 -0800, "marc rosen" <duckbite@qis.net> wrote:
Hey Pete,>Why would anybody own four Starboard Carrve 123's?>
Marc (who owns four identical tires on his car)

I only have one tire but I rotate it often so I get ever wear.

Glenn
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Brian M . 26 March 2005 18:21:20 permanent link ]
 Board quiver:
Starboard Evo 92
Starboard Acid 77

(I do have an old 8'8" Rutger wave board, but it's retired and held on
to for sentimental reasons).

Sail quiver:
6.8 Aerotech Phantom
6.2 & 5.7 Severne Blades
5.1, 4.5 & 4.0 Windwings

6', 195lbs

Use the Evo 92 from 6.8 - 5.1 (85-90% of my sailing), then over to the
A77 for 5.1 & down.

Since I just got the 6.8,trying to find the min. low end I can eek out
with the Evo 92. Having been toying with the idea of an Excocet Cross
117 or Starboard Aero 117...but I tend to research things to death
and carrying a 3rd board makes me nervous. Scared to overlap too
much!

Great thread!
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Guest 26 March 2005 19:04:07 permanent link ]
 Per marc rosen:>Why would anybody own four Starboard Carrve 123's?

Actually, I like it so much that I once caught myself looking for another one -
against the inevitable day when this one breaks.

Came to my senses one day last season when a guy about my size with the same
sail just kept blasting past me on a 131.

Next time around, I think it will be a 131 and a 111.
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PeteCresswell
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Wardog 26 March 2005 20:41:18 permanent link ]
 (Pete Cresswell) wrote:>> Actually, I like it so much that I once caught myself looking for another one ->> against the inevitable day when this one breaks.>> Next time around, I think it will be a 131 and a 111.


Hi Pete,
I've heard you say many times how enamored you are with your C-123...
FWIW...I found that the C-121 is far superior to the
C-123...faster...tu­rnier...jumpable...s­urfable...

The C-123 felt like a barge to me in comparison...the C-121 is much more
footsteerable...def­initely improved since '01...

http://www.surfings­ports.com/starboard_­01carve.asp

I love this shot of Eric Girard on the C-121...
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/car­ve121_eric_girard.jp­g

The C-121 is nearly identical in dims to the C-111, just 10 liters more
volume...and it has a centered rear footstrap option...

http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/car­ve_121_centered.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/car­ve_121_1.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/car­ve_121_2.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/car­ve_121_3.jpg

http://www.surfings­ports.com/baja_image­s/wardog_ww_hammer1.­jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/baja_image­s/wardog_ww_hammer2.­jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/baja_image­s/wardog_ww_hammer3.­jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/baja_image­s/wardog_ww_hammer4.­jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/baja_image­s/wardog_ww_hammer5.­jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/baja_image­s/wardog_ww_hammer6.­jpg

You might kill two birds with one stone by going with a C-121 next time
around...or...get a C-101 and a C-131...better spacing...less overlap...

Carve vid clip:
http://www.surfings­ports.com/starboard_­carve_02.asp

WARDOG
http://www.surfings­ports.com


(Pete Cresswell) wrote:> Per marc rosen:>
Why would anybody own four Starboard Carrve 123's?>
Actually, I like it so much that I once caught myself looking for another one -> against the inevitable day when this one breaks.>
Came to my senses one day last season when a guy about my size with the same> sail just kept blasting past me on a 131.>
Next time around, I think it will be a 131 and a 111.
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Guest 26 March 2005 20:59:16 permanent link ]
 Per WARDOG:>The C-121 is nearly identical in dims to the C-111, just 10 liters more >volume...and it has a centered rear footstrap option...
You might kill two birds with one stone by going with a C-121 next time >around...or...get a C-101 and a C-131...better spacing...less overlap...

I had no idea the 121 was so different from the 123 - and the centered rear
strap is a biggie for me and my size 15's.

I think my bias toward having a single board is from a desire for simplicity,
not caring for the feel of larger boards,.... and not getting that many
high-wind days.

Do you know 220# sailors who use the 101? If so, what kind of conditions are
they using it in?

The recommendations I get locally also suggest that the 111 is a bit large. But
when I was demoing boards last year, the next step down from 101 seemed like a
stone sinker for me - and I don't get that many days where I'd trade the reduced
bouncing around for the extra work of sinking in lulls - having been through the
rinse cycle at a local (Corson's) inlet more than a few times on an old Bonzer I
had.
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PeteCresswell
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Isobars 27 March 2005 00:47:20 permanent link ]
 At my weight in the upper 180s,
I USE a total sinker Gorge board (60-65 liters) for most of my sailing,
followed by an 83-liter freeride (8-1 Mistral Shift) for marginal wind.
I OCCASIONALLY use a 95-liter 8-3 freeride (8-3 Shift) when I have to.
I also CARRY AROUND a 114-liter freeride (8-11 JP). I've even used it a few
times. If I don't wring it out this season it's outta here.
I HAVE several new 60-65-liter sinkers in reserve because their shaper moved
to Brazil and I didn't want to ever be without one.
Then there's the older stuff stored in the garage . . . perfectly good Gorge
boards but pretty much replaced by the stuff above.

Mike \m/


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Guest 27 March 2005 02:09:11 permanent link ]
 Per wsurfn:>
I would like to get a 90liter wave board someday...., but I need to>elevate my game first.

I figure 20 lbs = 10 liters approx.

So if I'm 220 and another guy is 180, a 110-liter board with me on it equates to
a 90-liter board with him on it..... or an 80L board with somebody that weighs
160.

Anybody find fault with this (overly-simplistic?­) line of reasoning?
--
PeteCresswell
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Isobars 27 March 2005 02:28:55 permanent link ]
 Yup. Once planing, volume considerations pale compared to planing surface
cosiderations. Except for its effect on board dynamics in terrain and/or
maneuvers, the part above the water is nearly moot when planing. Only when
we slow way down (or maybe when bouncing across chop) does the water know
whether our board is one or eight inches thick. (Consider George
Greenough's -- and that Boeing composite engineer's similar -- virtually
volumeless spoons.)

Mike \m/

"(Pete Cresswell)" <x@y.z.invalid> wrote >> So if I'm 220 and another guy is 180, a 110-liter board with me on it > equates to> a 90-liter board with him on it..... or an 80L board with somebody that > weighs> 160.>
Anybody find fault with this (overly-simplistic?­) line of reasoning?


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Juri Munkki 27 March 2005 03:57:14 permanent link ]
 Last year:

77 cm / 96 liter
55 cm / 90 liter
56 cm / 74 liter

This year:

77 cm / 96 liter
60 cm / 94 liter
56 cm / 72 liter

Yes, that's width...it tells far more about the board than length.
(The lengths for the boards this year will be 218/247/210 cm)

If we had more reliable conditions, I could easily manage with just
two boards (big and small). But, because I often have to venture
far offshore to find the best conditions, I prefer to have some
reserve volume if I'm not 100% sure the wind will last, so that's
what the "middle" size is for. In practice, I wouldn't even miss
that much even if I didn't have the smallest board.

The boards: HS96, C94, PKST.

--
Juri Munkki - http://www.iki.fi/j­munkki - Windsurfing: Faster than the wind.
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Isobars 27 March 2005 06:15:44 permanent link ]
 "(Pete Cresswell)" <x@y.z.invalid> wrote...> Per Isobars:>>Yup. Once planing, volume considerations pale compared to planing surface>>cosiderati­ons. Except for its effect on board dynamics in terrain and/or>>maneuvers, the part above the water is nearly moot when planing. Only when>>we slow way down (or maybe when bouncing across chop) does the water know>>whether our board is one or eight inches thick. (Consider George>>Greenough's­ -- and that Boeing composite engineer's similar -- virtually>>volumele­ss spoons.)>
But does it hold up in the context of having to slog or swim back?

Not slogging, as volume surely helps planing OR slogging. I don't see any
big differences when swimming btw small and smaller boards, except that
maybe more board helps keep the rig out of the water while I swim. If the
wind is iffy and where I come ashore is a big deal, I'll use a larger board
and/or sail. Overall, the decision for me is based on the rewards vs the
risks of board size on that day at that venue, with factors including wind
quality, terrain, temperatures, how inconvenient a significantly downwind
landing would be, what language they speak on the downwind shore ;-)­ , how
fresh I am, the swim I face if the wind pukes to the point I can't sail back
in, etc. This time of year in the Gorge, with cold water and crappy wind
quality, I'll use bigger boards, places with short swims, etc. On warm
summer days with big terrain, I'll just pack some booties along if the
likelihood or severity of a hike warrants them, grab a tiny board, and sail
miles away on a full sinker, either in the Gorge or a lake. This time of
year there's no way I'd be on a tiny board at dusk, but in midsummer I very
often sail my smallest boards until I can no longer read the terrtain --
9:45 in mid June. A big dilemma is a spot that gets huge swell but often
means a LONG swim and/or rocky hike because wind direction is critical; d'ya
rig to maximize fun or to minimize PITA? Depends on temps, wind credibility,
and time of day.

My quiver size/spacing and/or the board I sail on any given day are based on
such considerations. I demand a full sinker (low 60s) and a board I can slog
upwind under a 6.0 (90s), and that leaves very useful room in between where
a complete sinker is a PITA or a risk and a 90-something is too big.

Mike \m/



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Jay Halford 27 March 2005 22:53:45 permanent link ]
 105 l Xcite
75 l OW

6.2 simmer crossover
5.8, 5.2, 4.5, 4.0, 3.5 Ezzy SE's.

Usually on the Exocet OW in the Gorge up to 5.2, then its a switch to the
Xcite. Usually on the Xcite anywhere but the Gorge. Since I can't seem to
decide on a permanent home anywhere, thinking of a one board quiver, and
just three sails to pack in one bag. Really like the RRD 80 liter freestyle
wave that runs 4.0 to 6.0. That would cover 90% of my current sailing with
way less hassle. Would keep the 4.0, 4.5, and. 5.2, 2 masts, one boom.

Weigh around 165 at the moment.


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Paul Braunbehrens 27 March 2005 23:39:34 permanent link ]
 Well, I've got a starboard start 200l board to teach people or if I get
desperate on light wind days.

Then a 145 L JP that I rarely sail anymore, but really like nontheless.
The 105 l Mistral Radar is probably the most versatile board in my
quiver.
The AHD 85l wave board is what I sail whenever there is any chance of
doing so.
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Wal 28 March 2005 16:38:40 permanent link ]
 
Exo TB 75 - 125 litres
F2 MP Style Medium - 95 litres
F2 MP Wave - 75 litres.

Sails from 8.5 to 4.2. Where I sail the big one gets about 50% of the
sailing, 40% middle and 10% on the little one. I'll be replacing the middle
one next and probably with a similar sized Syncro or Fanatic but it remains
to be seen - plans change.

ps. Pete do you only sail in 15 to 20 knots?


"(Pete Cresswell)" <x@y.z.invalid> wrote in message
news:scd941hjp2fcqt­selkpufmi0hdvrjc7p9c­@4ax.com...> - Longboard: Starboard Carve 123> - Wave Board: starboard Carve 123> - Light Air Board: Starboard Carve 123> - High Wind Board: Starboard Carve 123>
About 6'5", 220#...>
--> PeteCresswell


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Jay Halford 29 March 2005 00:02:39 permanent link ]
 RRD freestyle wave 80 sounds like it would fit the bill for you. I know that
lots of people like the SB Acid for B&J even though its a wave board. I
think its a fast one like my Exocet OW. The SB Evo 80 may work too. They
plane up quick I hear, and they thinned the tail this year.

I always look at Gorge specific (B&J) boards in that same size. I don't know
anything about any of the customs except the tiny ones for nukin wind.

<Blauster@volcanoma­il.com> wrote in message
news:1111992399.034­224.318710@z14g2000c­wz.googlegroups.com.­..>I think you are right about that mr munkki>
My widths + (lengths):>
62cm / 110 liter (261)> 59cm / 92 liter (250)> 54cm / 80 liter (249)>
I'm sailing in the Columbia Gorge so dealing with alot of gusty, holey,> rapidly changing wind. Would like to get a less wavey 80L board,> something that didn't take so much to get going yet was still slashy.> Don't know what that would be mebbe one of the customs like Realwind or> OO?>
- Blauster>


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Ad. 29 March 2005 11:41:31 permanent link ]
 On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:59:12 -0800, rathokan wrote:
well, I'm 160lbs, 6'1">
'05 JP Real World Wave 76

Add 40lbs and that's me :)­

I think I'll add the RWW 91 as my 'light' wind board.

--
Cheers
Anton

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Jay Halford 31 March 2005 20:57:47 permanent link ]
 No, I just took a flyer on one cause had good reviews, and WARDOG gave me a
screaming deal. Turned out to be the perfect gorge board for me, but at 75l,
too small for an all around board almost anywhere else. I don't think anyone
carries Exocet in the Gorge, but they are popping up on the water quite a
bit now. When I bought mine, it was the only one for a few months at the
Hatch or Doug's.

Yeah me too. Seems like the faster ones are better in the Gorge since> the extra rocker on the slow ones just makes them harder to get> planing. Were you able to demo the Exocet at one of the shops here?>
- Blauster>


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Wardog 31 March 2005 21:44:24 permanent link ]
 Jay Halford wrote:
No, I just took a flyer on one cause had good reviews, and WARDOG gave me a > screaming deal. Turned out to be the perfect gorge board for me, but at 75l, > too small for an all around board almost anywhere else. I don't think anyone > carries Exocet in the Gorge, but they are popping up on the water quite a > bit now. When I bought mine, it was the only one for a few months at the > Hatch or Doug's.>
Jay

The more there are, the more there are...;-)­
We've hooked up happy customers with Exocets from Maui to
Hatteras...Mexico to Canada...and coast to coast...West to East...North
to South...

Here are general product specs...
http://www.surfings­ports.com/exocet_owa­ve.asp
http://www.surfings­ports.com/exocet_uni­versal_wave.asp
http://www.surfings­ports.com/exocet_05.­asp
http://www.surfings­ports.com/exocet_03.­asp

I've been riding the Exocets for four seasons...

My current wave quiver has two Exocet OWaves (85/105) and two Exocet
UWaves (78/88)...plus an Exocet Cross 117 and a couple of Starboard EVOs
(74/80/92) and the new Starboard Acid 94:

http://surfingsport­s.com/images/quiver_­wave.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/quiver_­up.jpg

http://surfingsport­s.com/images/spring_­cali1.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/starboa­rd_acid_94_deck.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/starboa­rd_acid_94_volume.jp­g
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/starboa­rd_acid_94_bottom.jp­g
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/starboa­rd_acid_94_nose.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/starboa­rd_acid94_noserocker­.jpg

2003 OWave Info:
http://www.surfings­ports.com/exocet_wav­e.asp

85 review...
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/exo­cet_m85.jpg

'03 graphics:
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/exo­cet_m85_03.jpg

More pics...'02 was same as '03...different graphics...here are various
board angles...
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/ex_­waveboard.jpg

Here are some more shots of the '03 OWave on the water:
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/bri­an_cali1.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/bri­an_cali2.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/bri­an_cali3.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/bri­an_cali4.jpg

Alan White at Jalama on the O-Wave I 85:
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/j_memor­y10.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/j_memor­y11.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/j_memor­y2.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/j_memor­y4.jpg

UWave I 88:
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/baja_wa­rdog_jibe2.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/baja_wa­rdog_jibe3.jpg

These pics compare the '05 Universal Wave² 88 to the '04/'05 Original
Wave² 85:
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/uw2­-88_ow2-85_compare1.­jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/uw2­-88_ow2-85_compare2.­jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/uw2­-88_ow2-85_compare3.­jpg

http://surfingsport­s.com/images/quiver_­wave.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/quiver_­03.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/quiver_­04.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/quiver_­05.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/cross11­7_owave105.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/images/cross11­7_uwave88.jpg

2005 UWave2 78:
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/exo­cet_uw78_2005.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/exo­cet_uw78_1.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/exo­cet_uw78_2.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/exo­cet_uw78_3.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/exo­cet_uw78_4.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/exo­cet_uw78_deck1.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/exo­cet_uw78_deck2.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/exo­cet_uw78_bottom1.jpg­
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/exo­cet_uw78_bottom2.jpg­

78liter & 88 liter, '03/'04 Exocet Universal Waves:

http://surfingsport­s.com/pimages/exocet­_uwave78_deck.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/pimages/exocet­_uwave_78front.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/pimages/exocet­_uwave78bottom.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/pimages/exocet­_uwave_78nose.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/pimages/exocet­_uwave_78side.jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/pimages/exocet­_uwave78_88compare1.­jpg
http://surfingsport­s.com/pimages/exocet­_uwave78_88compare2.­jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/gimages/ex­ocet_universal_wave1­.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/gimages/ex­ocet_universal_wave2­.jpg

The primary difference is that the UW's are more down the line, front
foot driven like the Starboard EVO...the OW's like being loaded up by
the back foot...as such, they are a better fit for onshore wave
conditions...they are both stable in the holes with nice volume
distribution...both­ good jumpers...the shorter, wider UW's are easier
loopers...

The Exocet ProFlex footstraps are killer...super comfy and
they have a slot for micro-adjustments..­.
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/exo­cet_proflex_footstra­p.jpg

They've also improved the heel bumpers...
DDSA (Double Density Shock Absorption)...this reduces joint strain and
pounding dramatically...whic­h results in making these boards more
comfortable to sail over-powered in choppy conditions...less ankle
strain while footsteering...
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/exo­cet_ddsa.jpg

UWave2 action a couple of weeks ago...

http://surfingsport­s.com/baja_images/ba­ja_05_deb_severne.jp­g

http://surfingsport­s.com/baja_images/ba­ja_05_deb2_severne47­.jpg

http://surfingsport­s.com/baja_images/ba­ja_05_deb_uwave88.jp­g

http://surfingsport­s.com/baja_images/ba­ja_05_deb2_uwave88.j­pg

http://surfingsport­s.com/baja_images/ba­ja_05_wardog_uwave88­.jpg

http://surfingsport­s.com/baja_images/ba­ja_05_wardog2_uwave8­8.jpg

http://surfingsport­s.com/baja_images/ba­ja_05_wardog3_uwave8­8.jpg

The 9" WARDOG Wave fins are dialed in on these boards...size is dictated
by sailor preference, weight and back foot pressure orientation...
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/wd_­wave_90.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/images/fre­eweed_75.jpg
http://www.surfings­ports.com/trueames.a­sp

WARDOG
http://surfingsport­s.com

Yeah me too. Seems like the faster ones are better in the Gorge since>>the extra rocker on the slow ones just makes them harder to get>>planing. Were you able to demo the Exocet at one of the shops here?>>
- Blauster>>
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Brian M . 2 April 2005 18:58:05 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:44:24 -0800, WARDOG
<wardog@xxxsurfings­ports.com> wrote:
The primary difference is that the UW's are more down the line, front >foot driven like the Starboard EVO...the OW's like being loaded up by >the back foot...as such, they are a better fit for onshore wave >conditions...they are both stable in the holes with nice volume >distribution...bot­h good jumpers...the shorter, wider UW's are easier >loopers...

I agree, even though I haven't ridden the UWs, but I have had good
success with the Evo style boards in on-shore conditions as well. We
have crappy wave conditions, so the UW and Evo styles may be better
suited for our conditions, IMHO


Now to contradict mysel a bit, I was a little confused about the OWs
being more on-shore oriented. But I can see where those boards would
be good as when we get the big on-shore conidtions.We get a lot of
cross chop on the face of the wave (especially on our outer bars), so
riding more with the back foot helps.

Bri
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Brian M . 2 April 2005 19:15:25 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:44:24 -0800, WARDOG
<wardog@xxxsurfings­ports.com> wrote:
The primary difference is that the UW's are more down the line, front >foot driven like the Starboard EVO...the OW's like being loaded up by >the back foot...as such, they are a better fit for onshore wave >conditions...they are both stable in the holes with nice volume >distribution...bot­h good jumpers...the shorter, wider UW's are easier >loopers...

I agree, even though I haven't ridden the UWs, but I have had good
success with the Evo style boards in on-shore conditions as well. We
have crappy wave conditions, so the UW and Evo styles may be better
suited for our conditions, IMHO


Now to contradict mysel a bit, I was a little confused about the OWs
being more on-shore oriented. But I can see where those boards would
be good as when we get the big on-shore conidtions.We get a lot of
cross chop on the face of the wave (especially on our outer bars), so
riding more with the back foot helps.

Bri
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