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Re: Ski Nautique - Hull Changes / History
David Malicoat 17 May 2005 04:08:37
	I did look on www.planetnautique.com and did not find any strings on hull characteristics over the years. I have googled "ski nautique hull changes" and come back with no interesting results. If you do the same with respect to "mastercraft prostar hull changes" you get a fair amount of comparison info. If no interesting responses here, I will post on eventually planitnautique. "Tom Ruta" <rutat@cadvision.com> wrote in message news:ok9i81p3dud1g98gok70b1lqp1pss5cohb@4ax.com...> On Mon, 16 May 2005 15:44:53 -0700, Ric Bednar <rbednar@cisco.com>> wrote:> ...>> You're likely to get a very comprehensive response if posted to the>>forums on www.planetnautique.com or www.correctcraftfan.com.> Or just wait a few minutes for Mark K.
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David Malicoat 17 May 2005 04:13:38 [ permanent link ]
	Another question..... differences in hull between "Sport Nautique" and "Ski Nautique? "David Malicoat" <david.malicoat@hp.com> wrote in message news:Iu6ie.5469$aS3.4831@news.cpqcorp.net...>I have started looking for a new (to me) used boat. I am in the market for >something in the 8-12 years old.> I am familiar with the Master Craft hull changes over the last 10 years.> 88-90...... nice wake but a lot of hull spray at shorter rope lengths> 91-94......really good wake, tracking is OK with balanced crew> 95-97......not as good as earlier models, but still nice.> 98-2000......nice wake but serious drivability issues> 2001-present.....getting better> I don't have a good history of the evolution of Ski Nautique hull changes > through the last 10-15 years. I would like to get skier impressions of > the wake characteristics> pre 1990 - Ski Nautique 2001> 1990 - 1992 - Wood stringers/decking> 1993 - ?> 1994 - ?> 1995 - ?> 1996 - ?> 1997 - TSC hull introduced> 1998 - ?> 1999 - ?> 2000 - ?>
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Mark Kovalcson 17 May 2005 05:13:21 [ permanent link ]
	My next boat choices are narrowing down to> MC 1991-1994 or> SN 1993-1995.> Just stating that will create another set of discussions MC vs. SN. I own a 2001 SN which I would highly recommend, but given what you are financially bound to, I would recommend a 1993 MC Prostar with powerslot and 351 engine. If you are lucky and can find a good Stars and Stripes model, that much better. With a powerslot you will have a bit better tracking. I would avoid the 1991 since the deck looks a lot more dated, even though the hull is the same. Also the trailers improved a lot for 1992. In 1993 they improved the seams on the driver seat so that they don't tear apart, but vinyl work isn't that big a deal. I ski behind a 1992 MC Prostar and 1994 MC Prostar occassionally. Anyway good luck!
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David Malicoat 17 May 2005 19:36:50 [ permanent link ]
	Mark, Thanks for the comments. I too ski regularly behind a 1991 and 1994 MC ProStar (no powerslots). That is the baseline for nice wakes. If budget was unlimited, defiantly a 2001-03 SN. I have a friend with a 2003 SN. Very nice and small wake. The only downside to the 1991-1994 MC is tracking could be better. (Pretty good with a driver counter balance in the boat... i.e 100lbs concrete) The hull spray at lengths less than 28off can be annoying. First choice is 1991-93MC. Second choice alternative will be the 1993-95 SN. I still need to find some mid 90's SN to ski behind and evaluate. "Mark Kovalcson" <mkovalcson@comcast.net> wrote in message news:r9GdnVKGMd6u2BTfRVn-3Q@comcast.com...>> My next boat choices are narrowing down to>> MC 1991-1994 or>> SN 1993-1995.>> Just stating that will create another set of discussions MC vs. SN.> I own a 2001 SN which I would highly recommend, but given what you are > financially bound to, I would recommend a 1993 MC Prostar with powerslot > and 351 engine. If you are lucky and can find a good Stars and Stripes > model, that much better. With a powerslot you will have a bit better > tracking.> I would avoid the 1991 since the deck looks a lot more dated, even though > the hull is the same. Also the trailers improved a lot for 1992. In 1993 > they improved the seams on the driver seat so that they don't tear apart, > but vinyl work isn't that big a deal.> I ski behind a 1992 MC Prostar and 1994 MC Prostar occassionally.> Anyway good luck!>
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Tom Ruta 18 May 2005 04:55:24 [ permanent link ]
	On Tue, 17 May 2005 15:36:50 GMT, "David Malicoat" <david.malicoat@hp.com> wrote: ...> Second choice alternative will be the 1993-95 SN. I still need to find some >mid 90's SN to ski behind and evaluate. Somehow you should scrape up the coin for a TSC hull SN. The Gen I in particular has about the best slalom wake ever created. Of course the SN is no longer the World Slalom record boat (pending IWSF approval).
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Mark Kovalcson 18 May 2005 15:09:25 [ permanent link ]
	Second choice alternative will be the 1993-95 SN. I still need to find > some mid 90's SN to ski behind and evaluate. I'm with Tom on this one. If you can just squeek into a 1997 SN with TSC hull you will be much happier long term. You can upgrade the steering later and you will have a more solid boat. The 1991-1994 MC is a good boat though. One more tip the 351's get much better gas mileage than the early Chevy EFI engines. My friend's 1992 which was previously owned since new by another friend who now owns a 1994 with Chevy EFI engine. This other friend has complained about gas consumption on the Chevy EFI since he got it and he has had it checked out and it is running perfectly.
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Guest 18 May 2005 16:51:20 [ permanent link ]
	Mark Kovalcson wrote:> One more tip the 351's get much better gas mileage than the early Chevy EFI > engines. My friend's 1992 which was previously owned since new by another > friend who now owns a 1994 with Chevy EFI engine. This other friend has > complained about gas consumption on the Chevy EFI since he got it and he has > had it checked out and it is running perfectly. > You're offering a generalization based on a sampling of one, and have stated no other scientific metric to back it up.
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David Malicoat 18 May 2005 18:48:10 [ permanent link ]
	I will agree with you on the 351. My current boat has a 351 and the 1991MC also has a 351 in it. They are very efficient on gas. Two people can ski the day on 5 gallons of gas. Where the 1994MC has a Chev350 along with a 99Response. Both those boats require about 7 gallons for the same amount of skiing. The real surprise is the 94MC with the 350 vs. the 91MC and 351. They have the same hull and consume gas very differently. "Mark Kovalcson" <mkovalcson@comcast.net> wrote in message news:7KOdnVKRVbnlvxbfRVn-2w@comcast.com...>> Second choice alternative will be the 1993-95 SN. I still need to find >> some mid 90's SN to ski behind and evaluate.> I'm with Tom on this one. If you can just squeek into a 1997 SN with TSC > hull you will be much happier long term. You can upgrade the steering > later and you will have a more solid boat. The 1991-1994 MC is a good boat > though.> One more tip the 351's get much better gas mileage than the early Chevy > EFI engines. My friend's 1992 which was previously owned since new by > another friend who now owns a 1994 with Chevy EFI engine. This other > friend has complained about gas consumption on the Chevy EFI since he got > it and he has had it checked out and it is running perfectly.>
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Jjg 18 May 2005 20:00:36 [ permanent link ]
	i am not sure i can agree on this, although my comparisons are with my older '87 MC with the 351 (powerslot). It drank way more gas than my current '00 Response with the Monsoon. "David Malicoat" <david.malicoat@hp.com> wrote in message news:KAIie.5614$uk5.1897@news.cpqcorp.net...>I will agree with you on the 351. My current boat has a 351 and the 1991MC >also has a 351 in it. They are very efficient on gas. Two people can ski >the day on 5 gallons of gas. Where the 1994MC has a Chev350 along with a >99Response. Both those boats require about 7 gallons for the same amount >of skiing.> The real surprise is the 94MC with the 350 vs. the 91MC and 351. They > have the same hull and consume gas very differently.> "Mark Kovalcson" <mkovalcson@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:7KOdnVKRVbnlvxbfRVn-2w@comcast.com...>>> Second choice alternative will be the 1993-95 SN. I still need to find >>> some mid 90's SN to ski behind and evaluate.>> I'm with Tom on this one. If you can just squeek into a 1997 SN with TSC >> hull you will be much happier long term. You can upgrade the steering >> later and you will have a more solid boat. The 1991-1994 MC is a good >> boat though.>> One more tip the 351's get much better gas mileage than the early Chevy >> EFI engines. My friend's 1992 which was previously owned since new by >> another friend who now owns a 1994 with Chevy EFI engine. This other >> friend has complained about gas consumption on the Chevy EFI since he got >> it and he has had it checked out and it is running perfectly.>>
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Mark Kovalcson 19 May 2005 03:02:57 [ permanent link ]
	"JJG" <jxg1205@netzeroXREMOVETHISX.net> wrote in message news:oBJie.23009$aB.12008@lakeread03...>i am not sure i can agree on this, although my comparisons are with my >older '87 MC with the 351 (powerslot). It drank way more gas than my >current '00 Response with the Monsoon. Powerslots do drink more gas, but with a 1:1 Prostar 190 with a 250Hp 351 vs. a 275Hp 350 EFI the 351 is more miserly with gas. Interestingly enough my friend with the 1992 owned a 1987 Powerslot with 351. It drank more gas, but never felt strong enough. You think this is bad.... You should see how the current Prostar with HIGH drag hull sucks down liquid gold.... , but that is a completely different variable. A SN or Response comes off like a bandit in this comparison. I'm actually surprised at how well my 2001 SN does. It drinks a little more than my 1981 Ski Supreme with 240 Hp 351, but not that much more and it has a 310Hp GT40, gear reduction and a lot more weight.
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