(hint -- don't play single elimination tournaments).
I love match play -- I like playing it and I like watching it, if it gets decent coverage, but once again the Accidenture event is proving that it makes lousy TV. The trouble is in an elimination style event, odds are pretty good that the most popular players will be out of it by the weekend, and even if they aren't, with only two matches being played there just isn't enough action to fill the TV coverage, so you get lots of commercial breaks and LOTS of time for the commentators to drivel. I think Match play events could do well on the tube, but you have to run them in some format that keeps everyone on the course until Sunday. Here's a suggestion:
Play the individual matches in match play, but don't play the overall tournament as an elimination. Instead consider one of these options:
1) Assign each player points at the end of the match according to the result (for example, 0 for a tie, 1 for a win 1 or 2 up, 2 for a win 3-5 up, and 3 for a larger win, and negative points for losses by these amounts). After each round repair according to point totals and send everyone out again.
2) Give each player 1 point for each hole won and 1/2 a point for each hole tied in every match. Play every match out to the 18th, and again repair players with the closest records, and everyone plays the next day.
In either case a tie, if any, for the overall winner would be broken by head to head record (if the people tied played head to head) and playoff otherwise.
I'm sure there are other variants, but anything that keeps everyone playing all week, while retaining the match play format for matches would make a pretty good show. -- Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net) http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery
If nobody gets eliminated, then it is just another form of stroke play. We could call it Montgomeryford.
"warren montgomery" <wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:WcmdnQYFXYi1QZ3ZRVn-rw@comcast.com...> (hint -- don't play single elimination tournaments).>
I love match play -- I like playing it and I like watching it, if it > gets decent coverage, but once again the Accidenture event is proving > that it makes lousy TV. The trouble is in an elimination style event, > odds are pretty good that the most popular players will be out of it > by the weekend, and even if they aren't, with only two matches being > played there just isn't enough action to fill the TV coverage, so you > get lots of commercial breaks and LOTS of time for the commentators to > drivel. I think Match play events could do well on the tube, but you > have to run them in some format that keeps everyone on the course > until Sunday. Here's a suggestion:>
Play the individual matches in match play, but don't play the overall > tournament as an elimination. Instead consider one of these options:>
1) Assign each player points at the end of the match according to the > result (for example, 0 for a tie, 1 for a win 1 or 2 up, 2 for a win > 3-5 up, and 3 for a larger win, and negative points for losses by > these amounts). After each round repair according to point totals and > send everyone out again.>
2) Give each player 1 point for each hole won and 1/2 a point for > each hole tied in every match. Play every match out to the 18th, and > again repair players with the closest records, and everyone plays the > next day.>
In either case a tie, if any, for the overall winner would be broken > by head to head record (if the people tied played head to head) and > playoff otherwise.>
I'm sure there are other variants, but anything that keeps everyone > playing all week, while retaining the match play format for matches > would make a pretty good show.> -- > Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)> http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery>
So NBC could work in exhibition figure skating between holes?
"Tony" <ajw27703@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1140912565.592062.167100@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...> The thing is, match play is the classic golf game. It may not be TV> friendly, but it's golf. It came before TV, maybe TV has got to change> the way it's presented. Not having the games played in real time is > the> obvious answer, sort of like the Survivor series on TV.>
That would make a great weekend of TV, wouldn't it?>
I'd like to see 16 four man pods where each four man pod would play each other (maximum 18 holes, 1/2 point for tie). Then at the end of the three rounds, the golfer with the best record from the four man pod would advance to the round of 16. If there are ties, sudden death between all golfers tied in the pod.
This would mean only 1 extra round but actually (96-48) 48 extra matches.
Of course this year the top players lost in the round of 16.
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006, John A Witzke wrote:
it's FAR less complicated to just send the old lady to work, lay around> and watch college hoop all day, and wait for the lpga to come on >
Whets wrong with them playing a little earlier so it can be taped and edited. Shell's wonderful world of golf does it quite well.
"warren montgomery" <wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:WcmdnQYFXYi1QZ3ZRVn-rw@comcast.com...> (hint -- don't play single elimination tournaments).>
I love match play -- I like playing it and I like watching it, if it gets > decent coverage, but once again the Accidenture event is proving that it > makes lousy TV. The trouble is in an elimination style event, odds are > pretty good that the most popular players will be out of it by the > weekend, and even if they aren't, with only two matches being played there > just isn't enough action to fill the TV coverage, so you get lots of > commercial breaks and LOTS of time for the commentators to drivel. I > think Match play events could do well on the tube, but you have to run > them in some format that keeps everyone on the course until Sunday. > Here's a suggestion:>
Play the individual matches in match play, but don't play the overall > tournament as an elimination. Instead consider one of these options:>
1) Assign each player points at the end of the match according to the > result (for example, 0 for a tie, 1 for a win 1 or 2 up, 2 for a win 3-5 > up, and 3 for a larger win, and negative points for losses by these > amounts). After each round repair according to point totals and send > everyone out again.>
2) Give each player 1 point for each hole won and 1/2 a point for each > hole tied in every match. Play every match out to the 18th, and again > repair players with the closest records, and everyone plays the next day.>
In either case a tie, if any, for the overall winner would be broken by > head to head record (if the people tied played head to head) and playoff > otherwise.>
I'm sure there are other variants, but anything that keeps everyone > playing all week, while retaining the match play format for matches would > make a pretty good show.> -- > Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)> http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery>
Warren Montgomery 26 February 2006 06:16:31 [ permanent link ]
"Rick" <hchiava1@gmail.com> wrote in message news:bi8Mf.15888$qg.10781@news01.roc.ny...> Whets wrong with them playing a little earlier so it can be taped and > edited. Shell's wonderful world of golf does it quite well.> That works fine when nobody cares who wins or back in the era before instant access to everything, but the results would never remain secret today. Besides, Shells WWG I think now does stroke play, and even then doesn't manage to show all the shots.
I guess I'm in the minority. Next year I'll just record it and cut all the crap. -- Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net) http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery
"warren montgomery" <wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:WcmdnQYFXYi1QZ3ZRVn-rw@comcast.com...> (hint -- don't play single elimination tournaments).> <snip>
Don't think you need anything quite so complicated ... just expand the losers bracket such that on Sunday you have 8 or 16 matches instead of 2 ... 8 would probably be adequate. Now, you might not care about the 15 vs 16 match but it could be a good one.
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