I was out yesterday morning but got back in time to watch the last few holes of the Byron Nelson. Apparently Vijay had aced 17 not too long before that, so when CBS announced their "shot of the day" segment, I naturally assumed that they would be showing his hole-in-one. My bad ... the "shot of the day" was Tiger's missed putt at 18 on Friday. In his defense, I suppose Tiger is the golfer on the planet for whom missing a cut is rarer than achieving a hole-in-one. Good call, CBS, good call.
I was out yesterday morning but got back in time to watch the last few holes> of the Byron Nelson. Apparently Vijay had aced 17 not too long before that,> so when CBS announced their "shot of the day" segment, I naturally assumed> that they would be showing his hole-in-one. My bad ... the "shot of the day"> was Tiger's missed putt at 18 on Friday. In his defense, I suppose Tiger is> the golfer on the planet for whom missing a cut is rarer than achieving a> hole-in-one. Good call, CBS, good call.
They can choose any shot they want. But I can choose mine as well. And Vijay's ace gets my call. That was an amazing shot. I'm not a real fan of Vijay but results are results and that shot was a thing of beauty. 7 iron 195ish yards that close, a little hop and ace. Wonderful.
On Mon, 16 May 2005 10:44:20 -0700, "Rude Dog" <never@mind.com> wrote:
I was out yesterday morning but got back in time to watch the last few holes >of the Byron Nelson. Apparently Vijay had aced 17 not too long before that, >so when CBS announced their "shot of the day" segment, I naturally assumed >that they would be showing his hole-in-one. My bad ... the "shot of the day" >was Tiger's missed putt at 18 on Friday. In his defense, I suppose Tiger is >the golfer on the planet for whom missing a cut is rarer than achieving a >hole-in-one. Good call, CBS, good call. >
You might find out how many holes-in-one there have been on tour in the last 9 years. There have only been two missed cuts, and one WD, by TW. I believe that this is rarer than Tour aces for that period. ___ \o ' | / \ Someone likes every shot* bk
"Rude Dog" <never@mind.com> wrote in message news:118hmvliuhts556@corp.supernews.com...>I was out yesterday morning but got back in time to watch the last few >holes of the Byron Nelson. Apparently Vijay had aced 17 not too long before >that, so when CBS announced their "shot of the day" segment, I naturally >assumed that they would be showing his hole-in-one. My bad ... the "shot of >the day" was Tiger's missed putt at 18 on Friday. In his defense, I suppose >Tiger is the golfer on the planet for whom missing a cut is rarer than >achieving a hole-in-one. Good call, CBS, good call. I think you are mistaken.
On 16-May-2005, "Rude Dog" <never@mind.com> wrote:
I was out yesterday morning but got back in time to watch the last few holes> of the Byron Nelson. Apparently Vijay had aced 17 not too long before that,> so when CBS announced their "shot of the day" segment, I naturally assumed> that they would be showing his hole-in-one. My bad ... the "shot of the day"> was Tiger's missed putt at 18 on Friday. In his defense, I suppose Tiger is> the golfer on the planet for whom missing a cut is rarer than achieving a> hole-in-one. Good call, CBS, good call.
One shot was Friday, one was Sunday. So they weren't in competition for "shot of the day".
<oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote in message news:1116269880.421827.61300@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...>
Rude Dog wrote:>> I was out yesterday morning but got back in time to watch the last> few holes>> of the Byron Nelson. Apparently Vijay had aced 17 not too long before> that,>> so when CBS announced their "shot of the day" segment, I naturally> assumed>> that they would be showing his hole-in-one. My bad ... the "shot of> the day">> was Tiger's missed putt at 18 on Friday. In his defense, I suppose> Tiger is>> the golfer on the planet for whom missing a cut is rarer than> achieving a>> hole-in-one. Good call, CBS, good call.>
Um. Vijay's was the shot of the day. Since Tiger's shot> happened 2 days earlier, that'd a been kinda silly.
Exactly my point. I guess my sarcasm wasn't obvious.
It was not the CBS "shot of the day." I forget the exact title of the 30-second segment, but it was something that indicated that the shot was odd, rather than excellent, and it was associated with a sponsor, rather than the network. Something along the lines of "Barclay's unusual approach," which I just made up because I can't think of the actual title.
On Mon, 16 May 2005 10:44:20 -0700, "Rude Dog" <never@mind.com> wrote:>I was out yesterday morning but got back in time to watch the last few holes >of the Byron Nelson. Apparently Vijay had aced 17 not too long before that, >so when CBS announced their "shot of the day" segment, I naturally assumed >that they would be showing his hole-in-one. My bad ... the "shot of the day" >was Tiger's missed putt at 18 on Friday. In his defense, I suppose Tiger is >the golfer on the planet for whom missing a cut is rarer than achieving a >hole-in-one. Good call, CBS, good call. >
"Rude Dog" <never@mind.com> wrote in message news:118hmvliuhts556@corp.supernews.com...> I was out yesterday morning but got back in time to watch the last few holes> of the Byron Nelson. Apparently Vijay had aced 17 not too long before that,> so when CBS announced their "shot of the day" segment, I naturally assumed> that they would be showing his hole-in-one. My bad ... the "shot of the day"> was Tiger's missed putt at 18 on Friday. In his defense, I suppose Tiger
the golfer on the planet for whom missing a cut is rarer than achieving a> hole-in-one. Good call, CBS, good call.>
Vijay's Hole-In-One was shot of the day on Sunday.
I dunno. You'd have to go back pretty far to find the last time when a player whose name was on the first page of the leaderboard made an ace during a final round. I cannot recall the last time it happened, if in fact it ever has.
Randy
"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message news:s2ph81985l59cu8s6pelk6mivfug317av0@4ax.com...> On Mon, 16 May 2005 10:44:20 -0700, "Rude Dog" <never@mind.com> wrote:>
I was out yesterday morning but got back in time to watch the last few >>holes>>of the Byron Nelson. Apparently Vijay had aced 17 not too long before >>that,>>so when CBS announced their "shot of the day" segment, I naturally assumed>>that they would be showing his hole-in-one. My bad ... the "shot of the >>day">>was Tiger's missed putt at 18 on Friday. In his defense, I suppose Tiger >>is>>the golfer on the planet for whom missing a cut is rarer than achieving a>>hole-in-one. Good call, CBS, good call.>>
You might find out how many holes-in-one there have been on tour in> the last 9 years. There have only been two missed cuts, and one WD,> by TW. I believe that this is rarer than Tour aces for that period.> ___> \o '> |> / \> Someone likes every shot*> bk
On Mon, 16 May 2005 21:29:15 GMT, "\"R&B\"" <NotMyAddress@All.com> wrote:
I dunno. You'd have to go back pretty far to find the last time when a >player whose name was on the first page of the leaderboard made an ace >during a final round. I cannot recall the last time it happened, if in fact >it ever has.>
Randy>
"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message >news:s2ph81985l59cu8s6pelk6mivfug317av0@4ax.com...>> On Mon, 16 May 2005 10:44:20 -0700, "Rude Dog" <never@mind.com> wrote:>>
I was out yesterday morning but got back in time to watch the last few >>>holes of the Byron Nelson. Apparently Vijay had aced 17 not too long before >>>that, so when CBS announced their "shot of the day" segment, I naturally assumed>>>that they would be showing his hole-in-one. My bad ... the "shot of the >>>day" was Tiger's missed putt at 18 on Friday. In his defense, I suppose Tiger >>>is the golfer on the planet for whom missing a cut is rarer than achieving a>>>hole-in-one. Good call, CBS, good call.>>>
You might find out how many holes-in-one there have been on tour in>> the last 9 years. There have only been two missed cuts, and one WD,>> by TW. I believe that this is rarer than Tour aces for that period.>> bk
It really makes litte difference, since these two shots were on different days anyway. A final round has nothing to do with the number of aces vs. Tiger's cuts made though.
"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message news:or6i81dd0k6ebd8g5lecutla68g3p65m8k@4ax.com...> On Mon, 16 May 2005 21:29:15 GMT, "\"R&B\"" <NotMyAddress@All.com>> wrote:>
I dunno. You'd have to go back pretty far to find the last time when a>>player whose name was on the first page of the leaderboard made an ace>>during a final round. I cannot recall the last time it happened, if in >>fact>>it ever has.>>
Randy>>
"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message>>news:s2ph81985l59cu8s6pelk6mivfug317av0@4ax.com...>>> On Mon, 16 May 2005 10:44:20 -0700, "Rude Dog" <never@mind.com> wrote:>>>
I was out yesterday morning but got back in time to watch the last few>>>>holes of the Byron Nelson. Apparently Vijay had aced 17 not too long >>>>before>>>>that, so when CBS announced their "shot of the day" segment, I naturally >>>>assumed>>>>that they would be showing his hole-in-one. My bad ... the "shot of the>>>>day" was Tiger's missed putt at 18 on Friday. In his defense, I suppose >>>>Tiger>>>>is the golfer on the planet for whom missing a cut is rarer than >>>>achieving a>>>>hole-in-one. Good call, CBS, good call.>>>>
You might find out how many holes-in-one there have been on tour in>>> the last 9 years. There have only been two missed cuts, and one WD,>>> by TW. I believe that this is rarer than Tour aces for that period.>>> bk>
It really makes litte difference, since these two shots were on> different days anyway. A final round has nothing to do with the> number of aces vs. Tiger's cuts made though
Agreed. the only point I was trying to make was that if "the shot of the day" was based upon how frequently a shot is made, I suspect it's been longer than the last time Tiger missed a cut that a player on the front page of a leaderboard made an ace during the final round in the heat of competiton. GIven the relative inexperience of the guy who eventually won, Vijay's 1-3 finish, which enabled him to post -11, gave the leader a little something to think about.
Although it was obviously not enough to think about.
Agreed. the only point I was trying to make was that if "the shot of the > day" was based upon how frequently a shot is made, I suspect it's been > longer than the last time Tiger missed a cut that a player on the front > page of a leaderboard made an ace during the final round in the heat of > competiton.
But Tiger didn't miss the cut because of that one shot. There were a lot of other shots that he should have made, and didn't, that cost him making the cut.
On Mon, 16 May 2005 17:41:09 -0600, "Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
Agreed. the only point I was trying to make was that if "the shot of the >> day" was based upon how frequently a shot is made, I suspect it's been >> longer than the last time Tiger missed a cut that a player on the front >> page of a leaderboard made an ace during the final round in the heat of >> competiton.>
But Tiger didn't miss the cut because of that one shot. There were a lot of >other shots that he should have made, and didn't, that cost him making the >cut. >
True, but it was the one that solidified the fact that he missed the cut. ___ \o ' | / \ Someone likes every shot* bk
When ya get right down to it, who gives a flip what shot they selected as the "shot of the day" or whatever? These little "featurettes" are nothing more than a vehicle with which to draw attention to another commercial.
The most important shot of the day was probably Purdy's tee shot on 17, or maybe his drive on 18. After those two shots were successfully executed, there was no way in the world he was going to make a high enough number to pull a Jean Van de Velde. (Now there's a name we haven't heard in a while.)
Randy
"cja" <cja@excite.com> wrote in message news:1116275888.779715.320260@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> multi wrote:>> It was not the CBS "shot of the day." I forget the exact title>> of the 30-second segment, but it was something that indicated that>> the shot was odd, rather than excellent, and it was associated with>> a sponsor, rather than the network. Something along the lines of>> "Barclay's unusual approach," which I just made up because I can't>> think of the actual title.>>
I'm not sure if it was Barclay's or not, but I think the slogan is> "uncommon approach". Tiger's missed putt on the 36th hole was his> uncommon approach to making the cut. Uncommon, as in that's not the> way to do it when you're sitting on the cut line. I thought it was> kind of a stretch to use that, but maybe it was up to the sponsor to> pick the shot, and they wanted to show TW. A better shot to show, an> actual approach shot, would have been Purdy from the trees, getting it> on or around the green and saving par. Or one of his uncommonly good> approaches from the fairway that led to birdie. Any good shot from the> tourney winner would have been more appropriate.>
On Mon, 16 May 2005 18:23:05 GMT, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net> wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2005 10:44:20 -0700, "Rude Dog" <never@mind.com> wrote:>
I was out yesterday morning but got back in time to watch the last few holes >>of the Byron Nelson. Apparently Vijay had aced 17 not too long before that, >>so when CBS announced their "shot of the day" segment, I naturally assumed >>that they would be showing his hole-in-one. My bad ... the "shot of the day" >>was Tiger's missed putt at 18 on Friday. In his defense, I suppose Tiger is >>the golfer on the planet for whom missing a cut is rarer than achieving a >>hole-in-one. Good call, CBS, good call. >>
You might find out how many holes-in-one there have been on tour in>the last 9 years. There have only been two missed cuts, and one WD,>by TW. I believe that this is rarer than Tour aces for that period.> ___ > \o '> | > / \ >Someone likes every shot*>bk
Welcome to the PGA Tour on CBS, aka the Tiger Channel!
One might also argue that there is another TiGer Channel (TGC)...
On 16-May-2005, "\"R&B\"" <NotMyAddress@All.com> wrote:
I dunno. You'd have to go back pretty far to find the last time when a> player whose name was on the first page of the leaderboard made an ace> during a final round. I cannot recall the last time it happened, if in fact> it ever has.
On the leaderboard, fairly recently.
But the most notable recent one was allowed for one of the best finishes of a tournament I've seen - when Phil Mickelson had to go for it on 18 and David Toms laid up. Both players did the smart thing, but David won the PGA championship. What set this up was David's hole-in-one a few holes back.
"newellsatwsu" <newellatwsu@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:1116297211.103529.38550@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...> R&B wrote:>> I dunno. You'd have to go back pretty far to find the last time when> a>> player whose name was on the first page of the leaderboard made an> ace>> during a final round. I cannot recall the last time it happened, if> in fact>> it ever has.>
"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net> wrote in message news:d6cssd$f89$1@peabody.colorado.edu...>
On 16-May-2005, "\"R&B\"" <NotMyAddress@All.com> wrote:>
I dunno. You'd have to go back pretty far to find the last time when a>> player whose name was on the first page of the leaderboard made an ace>> during a final round. I cannot recall the last time it happened, if in >> fact>> it ever has.>
On the leaderboard, fairly recently.>
But the most notable recent one was allowed for one of the best finishes > of a> tournament I've seen - when Phil Mickelson had to go for it on 18 and > David Toms> laid up. Both players did the smart thing, but David won the PGA> championship. What set this up was David's hole-in-one a few holes > back.
A few holes back...one day earlier.
Someone recalled Jerry Kelly making a hole-in-one in the final round at the 2002 TOUR Championship. I thought to myself, "yeah, but did he finish on the first page of the leaderboard?"
Sure enough, he did. He finished 4th, after acing #11 on Sunday. Perhaps the reason I didn't recall it is because he was never really in serious contention, or at least it never seemed so at the time. That tournament came down to a two-man duel, between Charles Howell III and the eventual winner Vijay Singh. Singh won by 2 shots, and finished 6 strokes ahead of Kelly.
I'd be interested if anyone else can recall a player finishing in contention and making an ace on Sunday to help his cause. I can think of a few Sunday aces, but they were by players so far out of contention it really didn't factor into the race for the title.
Anybody?
(This is why I thought Vijay's ace was so unusual. It happens so rarely when it might really matter in determining who wins on Sunday. Obviously, Vijay didn't end up winning, or even being all that much of a factor at the end. But at the time Vijay posted that ace, then backed it up with a birdie on 18, it didn't seem inconceivable that a player like Purdy, with no real track record of being in the hot seat coming down the stretch, could pull a choke-a-roo. He didn't, and good for him. But at the time, it seemed possible. That's why I thought Vijay's shot was so rare. It almost never happens that an ace near the end of a tournament factors into who wins.)
"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net> wrote in message> news:d6cssd$f89$1@peabody.colorado.edu...>>
On 16-May-2005, "\"R&B\"" <NotMyAddress@All.com> wrote:>>
I dunno. You'd have to go back pretty far to find the last time when a>>> player whose name was on the first page of the leaderboard made an ace>>> during a final round. I cannot recall the last time it happened, if in>>> fact>>> it ever has.>>
On the leaderboard, fairly recently.>>
But the most notable recent one was allowed for one of the best finishes>> of a>> tournament I've seen - when Phil Mickelson had to go for it on 18 and>> David Toms>> laid up. Both players did the smart thing, but David won the PGA>> championship. What set this up was David's hole-in-one a few holes>> back.>
A few holes back...one day earlier.>
Someone recalled Jerry Kelly making a hole-in-one in the final round at> the> 2002 TOUR Championship. I thought to myself, "yeah, but did he finish on> the first page of the leaderboard?">
Sure enough, he did. He finished 4th, after acing #11 on Sunday. Perhaps> the reason I didn't recall it is because he was never really in serious> contention, or at least it never seemed so at the time. That tournament> came down to a two-man duel, between Charles Howell III and the eventual> winner Vijay Singh. Singh won by 2 shots, and finished 6 strokes ahead of> Kelly.>
I'd be interested if anyone else can recall a player finishing in> contention> and making an ace on Sunday to help his cause. I can think of a few> Sunday aces, but they were by players so far out of contention it really> didn't factor into the race for the title.>
Anybody?
I can't remember if Brent Geiberger's ace was on Sunday of the tournament he won, but I think it was. Maybe in Hartford? Yep, a quick look at pgatour.com confirms he won in Hartford in 1999 and I'm pretty sure he made an ace on Sunday. Had to go back a bit for that one, which kind of makes your point for you.
On 17-May-2005, Wayne <way96ah@hotmail.com> wrote:
I can't remember if Brent Geiberger's ace was on Sunday of the tournament he> won, but I think it was. Maybe in Hartford? Yep, a quick look at> pgatour.com confirms he won in Hartford in 1999 and I'm pretty sure he made> an ace on Sunday. Had to go back a bit for that one, which kind of makes> your point for you.
That is a date that can be compared to the last time Tiger missed a cut.
""R&B"" <NotMyAddress@All.com> wrote in message news:tDrie.2136$X92.638@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...> Someone recalled Jerry Kelly making a hole-in-one in the final round at
2002 TOUR Championship. I thought to myself, "yeah, but did he finish on> the first page of the leaderboard?"
That would be me. I love looking up this kind of golf trivia crap. I also mentioned that Kelly finished 4th.
I'd be interested if anyone else can recall a player finishing in
contention> and making an ace on Sunday to help his cause. I can think of a few Sunday> aces, but they were by players so far out of contention it really didn't> factor into the race for the title.
The other example I gave in that same post was Bob Burns from the 2002 Kemper Open. I think he was leading at the time he made his hole-in-one on the front nine (7th hole?). Bob Estes ended up winning (after Burns doubled 16...fiinished 3rd to Estes and Beem) and Annika posted that great screen shot of Peter Kostis, Estes, and his two biggest fans. It was also Ken Venturi's last television broadcast with CBS.
-- Scott D. Newell (newellatwsu@adelphia.net) Washington State University "That shot is impossible!...Jack Nicholson himself couldn't make it!"-- Homer Simpson
