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GYXU > Golf > Re: Women now eligible for the British open 27 April 2005 21:23:42

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Re: Women now eligible for the British open

Crispin Roche 26 April 2005 20:35:01
 On 26 Apr 2005 05:09:34 -0700, gururajan20815@yaho­o.com wrote:
Why the hell is there an exemption into the British Open from a rinky>dink tournament such as the John Deere Classic?>

Because those poor little US Tour pros just don't want to qualify for
The Open Championship in the same way as everybody else.

Crispin Roche

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Bobby Knight 26 April 2005 21:05:28 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:35:01 GMT, Crispin Roche
<crispin.roche@ntlw­orld.com> wrote:
On 26 Apr 2005 05:09:34 -0700, gururajan20815@yaho­o.com wrote:>
Why the hell is there an exemption into the British Open from a rinky>>dink tournament such as the John Deere Classic?>>
Because those poor little US Tour pros just don't want to qualify for>The Open Championship in the same way as everybody else.>
Crispin Roche

Gee Crispin...I don't think that the US Tour pros have a vote with the
Royal and Ancient.
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Greg Schoenberg 26 April 2005 22:27:55 permanent link ]
 
"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo­.com> wrote in message
news:1114517902.248­720.200840@g14g2000c­wa.googlegroups.com.­..>
gururajan20...@yaho­o.com wrote:> > http://www.golf365.­com/Latest_News/stor­y_9171.shtml> >
Why the hell is there an exemption into the British Open from a rinky> > dink tournament such as the John Deere Classic?>
You know, I think I've come to the conclusion that they should just> open it all up, and demonstrate how utterly outclasses the chicks are> at competing with the guys.>

I agree....the PGA and the British Open should be open the best golfers,
regardless of gender or nationality. However....I disagree with the notion
that the guys will continue to "outclass the chicks." Golf is not a sport
based on endurance or extraordinary strength. Given that, there is no
physical reason why a woman, like Michelle Wie, cannot compete with a man.
I think we'll see it....soon.

-Greg


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John A Witzke 26 April 2005 23:35:13 permanent link ]
 gururajan:

Why the hell is there an exemption into the British Open from a rinky
dink tournament such as the John Deere Classic?

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agreed...if you're not qualifed for the open championship and you really
want to play in it, you should have to pony up some cash, hop on a
plane, and fly across the ocean

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Steve 27 April 2005 00:07:10 permanent link ]
 
I agree....the PGA and the British Open should be open the best golfers,> regardless of gender or nationality. However....I disagree with the > notion> that the guys will continue to "outclass the chicks." Golf is not a sport> based on endurance or extraordinary strength. Given that, there is no> physical reason why a woman, like Michelle Wie, cannot compete with a man.> I think we'll see it....soon.>
-Greg>

There is not a reason but we will not see it soon or maybe ever. We may one
day see a female such as Wie who is capable of once in a while making a cut
but we are not going to see a number of females who are going to be
regularly in the hunt to win on the PGA tour. I think the difference is a
couple of things. Part is males are just more competative. Part is that
the female tours play down to the players, the greens are slower, the rough
is shorter, the pins are not tucked. They do not week after week play on
courses that push them like the men. I call it the soft sexism of low
expectations. I think there is some strength difference. The best of the
best females would not finish in the top 100 in driving distance on the PGA
tour and if you look at the PGA tour stats, its the long drivers who tend to
be at the top of the rankings.

The reality is not the top couple of hundred golfers are men, its the top
couple of thousand golfers are men. Annika S. would not do well on any of
the Open tours, PGA, Nationwide, European etc. The best male college and AM
golfers would beat her the majority of the time.
Steve


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Howard Brazee 27 April 2005 16:32:12 permanent link ]
 
On 26-Apr-2005, "Fred Taylor" <freddyt@yahoo.com>­ wrote:
What is this supposed to mean? That women don't care about winning as much> as men? If that's the case, it has less to do with biology and more to do> with how girls are brought up. In the case of Michelle Wie, we know she> wasn't brought up like a typical girl. She has always been competitive in> whatever she participates. It's not just on the golf course that Michelle> has competed against the other gender.

Quite possibly. But little girls and little boys compete differently. Biology
makes a difference.
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Howard Brazee 27 April 2005 16:39:27 permanent link ]
 
On 26-Apr-2005, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.co­m>
wrote:
Hell yes - this whole business of "separate but equal" stinks. There> should be just one pro golf tour open to both sexes. In fact all> sports should be that way.

By the same logic, there should be one tour for all age groups (for all sports).
Why should my local high school's football team be limited to students? Get
rid of the senior tour.
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Steve 27 April 2005 21:23:42 permanent link ]
 
"Crispin Roche" <crispin.roche@ntlw­orld.com> wrote in message
news:6ogv619jfqn2e2­0qobsp2ejjsijgo7rkt0­@4ax.com...> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:11:36 -0700, "Steve"> <stevebNoSpamPlease­@comcast.com> wrote:>
You might argue that but history shows otherwise. Tiger Woods played> in the following US PGA Tour events on exemptions before he became a> pro> 1995 age 20 - the Western Open> 1994 age 19 - the Nestle Invitational, Buick Classic and Western Open> 1993 age 18 - the Nissan LA Open, the Honda Classic and the Byron> Nelson> 1992 age 17 - the Nissan LA Open>
He missed the cut in all of those events except the Western Open in> 1995 and he only once broke 70 in the 18 rounds he played in those> events.>
Crispin Roche>

I think you missed the part about when he first turned pro.... He had just
won his 3rd straight US Am, made the cut at that years US Open, tied the
British open Am scoring record, won the NCAA individual title, had made the
cut in the Western Open and was the only Am to make the cut in the previous
years Masters. Clearly he could compete and deserved to be playing on the
big tour. A year or two earlier you could have argued that he did not
belong out there but not in August of '96 when he first turned pro.
Steve


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