Re: Did we just see the greatest shot in Masters history?
Fred Taylor 11 April 2005 02:45:40
That shot will be on ESPN about 10,000 times tonight on SportsCenter and win an ESPY Award. You can book it.
"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1113173035.050408.184010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...>I stress the word _see_ as we don't have Sarazen's double-eagle on> tape. But Tiger's chip in on 16 may go down as such. The timing of> the shot, the shot itself, and the subsequent miss by DiMarco...I think> it might be.>
Scott McReynolds 11 April 2005 02:46:55 [ permanent link ]
In article <1113173035.050408.184010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote:
I stress the word _see_ as we don't have Sarazen's double-eagle on> tape. But Tiger's chip in on 16 may go down as such. The timing of> the shot, the shot itself, and the subsequent miss by DiMarco...I think> it might be.>
It thought it was going to just sit there, but as you know, it just barely dropped in after what seemed like a few seconds.
"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1113173035.050408.184010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...>I stress the word _see_ as we don't have Sarazen's double-eagle on> tape. But Tiger's chip in on 16 may go down as such. The timing of> the shot, the shot itself, and the subsequent miss by DiMarco...I think> it might be.>
I am watching but missed this play just seconds after it occurred. Why do they not have TV replays in golf? And did someone just make a hole-in-one before Tiger's shot? Why was the crowd going berzerk?
Dave McGuriman 11 April 2005 02:51:53 [ permanent link ]
Followed by the worst?
"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1113173035.050408.184010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...>I stress the word _see_ as we don't have Sarazen's double-eagle on> tape. But Tiger's chip in on 16 may go down as such. The timing of> the shot, the shot itself, and the subsequent miss by DiMarco...I think> it might be.>
Dave McGuriman 11 April 2005 03:20:33 [ permanent link ]
"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1113174641.903729.192750@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...>
Dave McGuriman wrote:>> Followed by the worst?>
LOL! Absolutely. This is the difference between 2000 Tiger and> today's Tiger.>
Ben
Yup, he's human, and chokes. That siren sound on 18 had to be distracting. To the point he couldn't muscle through that rough. Well here we go, 18 all over again.
Davis Love holed a very similar shot a few years ago. He needed it to stay in the tournament at the time, but alas, he did not go on to win and they never show it anymore since his name isn't Tiger Woods.
Winston Corcoran 11 April 2005 03:51:26 [ permanent link ]
"DanL" <a@b.c> wrote in news:zTi6e.28240$vd.17838@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:
Davis Love holed a very similar shot a few years ago. He needed it to> stay in the tournament at the time, but alas, he did not go on to win> and they never show it anymore since his name isn't Tiger Woods. >
"Julie P." <jporpiglia@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:dPadnXTgb5QdMMTfRVn-2g@comcast.com...> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message> news:1113173035.050408.184010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> >I stress the word _see_ as we don't have Sarazen's double-eagle on> > tape. But Tiger's chip in on 16 may go down as such. The timing of> > the shot, the shot itself, and the subsequent miss by DiMarco...I think> > it might be.> >
I am watching but missed this play just seconds after it occurred. Why do> they not have TV replays in golf? And did someone just make a hole-in-one> before Tiger's shot? Why was the crowd going berzerk?>
they replayed it at least twice and, yes, Trevor Immelman made a hole in one just before that on 16 that was only shown on tape Dave
I think the greatest shot was still the chip in by Mize in a 3 way playoff with Norman and I can't recall the other player. I forget what year too, maybe 1987?
Tiger was great today but still nowhere near 2000 form. If DeMarco's chip on 18 went in (and it should have) we would all be talking about the biggest choke in Masters history. Tiger's putting and driving are still way too erratic to be dominating, although his shot making around the greens is incredible.
Give Tiger credit for taking advantage of the wet greens in the morning and getting 7 birdies in a row, but without the rain delays, he never would have won because that make up 9 holes saved his butt. We saw the real Tiger later on when the greens firmed up.
"Curly C" <KeeponChooglin@webtv.net> wrote in message news:20840-425A18FA-338@storefull-3155.bay.webtv.net...> Tiger was great today but still nowhere near 2000 form. If DeMarco's> chip on 18 went in (and it should have) we would all be talking about> the biggest choke in Masters history.
Jeez, people quickly forget Greg Norman in 1996 don't they!
"Curly C" <KeeponChooglin@webtv.net> wrote in message news:20840-425A18FA-338@storefull-3155.bay.webtv.net...> I think the greatest shot was still the chip in by Mize in a 3 way> playoff with Norman and I can't recall the other player. I forget what> year too, maybe 1987?> I am not sure if the playoff started with 3 people, but buy the time Mize chipped in it was only between Norman and Mize. Not to many thought Mize could get up and down, and that Norman would win the playoff with a par.
Tiger was great today but still nowhere near 2000 form. If DeMarco's> > chip on 18 went in (and it should have) we would all be talking about> > the biggest choke in Masters history.>
Should Tiger's wedge shot that hit the pin a foot off the ground on Thursday have bounced off the green into the sand trap with a terrible downhill lie?
"Curly C" <KeeponChooglin@webtv.net> wrote in message >news:20840-425A18FA-338@storefull-3155.bay.webtv.net...>> Tiger was great today but still nowhere near 2000 form. If DeMarco's>> chip on 18 went in (and it should have) we would all be talking about>> the biggest choke in Masters history.>
Jeez, people quickly forget Greg Norman in 1996 don't they! >
News alert. Ken doesn't think it was skill. It must be a illegal club.
"Bow Tie" <ken_pittsjr@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1113197212.358859.247720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> I think it was just a litlle bit extra special because he was up> against the collar of the "2nd cut". I thought he had bladed it when it> first came out, then it bit very hard and headed for the cup. An> absolutely great shot in the situation. It probably was a turning point> even though he screwed up 17. I think they might check the grooves on> his wedge. At least DiMarco had a Ping Eye 2 BeCu. You might want to> know that those are highly prized because the box grooves were> grand-fathered in as allowable.>
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TGC put it in their top ten shots of the last ten years from their> Masters week hooplah. But the reason it doesn't get as much play is> because Love didn't win in '99. And had Tiger not won today, it would> have been just another great golf shot.>
"Curly C" <KeeponChooglin@webtv.net> wrote in message news:20840-425A18FA-338@storefull-3155.bay.webtv.net...>
Give Tiger credit for taking advantage of the wet greens in the morning> and getting 7 birdies in a row, but without the rain delays, he never> would have won because that make up 9 holes saved his butt. We saw the> real Tiger later on when the greens firmed up.>
Without the rain delays, perhaps he would have had a great first round. It's easy to "guess" what might have been. Jack might have shot 8 under. Phil might have shot a 59. Or the winning score might have been Fred Funk at +1 where nobody could hold the greens or make a putt.
On 11-Apr-2005, "oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com" <oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote:
Am I the only one that is a bit suspicious about that pin> location on 16? It seems as if they are placing at> a low spot in a "bowl" area that feeds balls to the hole> from all manner of directions. Hit inside the bowl, and> the ball is headed towards the hole.
Obviously, a majority of the shots that went anywhere near dropped.
Why would Nike want to pay Augusta for the rights or pay networks to air a> commercial using that clip when it has already received substantial free air> time around the world.>
You will have to ask Fred Taylor, he's the one who mentioned the odds of Nike not using it in their ads.
But realize that in a week or so that footage will be off the air, only to resurface next spring when CBS begins running Masters ads again. And those ads will only be on CBS. I am sure Nike would like to be able to use it in their own ads and on other networks.
Matt 'Ocho' Aamold 12 April 2005 02:08:29 [ permanent link ]
Mark A wrote:> Why would Nike want to pay Augusta for the rights or pay networks to air a> commercial using that clip when it has already received substantial free air> time around the world.>
Nevertheless Augusta still owns the footage. And in order to use it for anything ANGC has to approve of it.
There must be 19 gazillion approved or legal photographers there who have the shot and would be more than willing to sell it.
"Matt 'Ocho' Aamold" <m_aam_old@comcast.net> wrote in message news:CZqdnT0i3-7FaMffRVn-gw@comcast.com...> Mark A wrote:>> Why would Nike want to pay Augusta for the rights or pay networks to >> air a>> commercial using that clip when it has already received substantial >> free air>> time around the world.>>
Nevertheless Augusta still owns the footage. And in order to use it > for anything ANGC has to approve of it.
Not quite that many. Are photographers and spectators allowed above the hole where the CBS camera was? You'd need that angle.
"sfb" <sfb@spam.net> wrote in message news:oEC6e.15669$B12.8081@trnddc09...> There must be 19 gazillion approved or legal photographers there who have > the shot and would be more than willing to sell it.>
"Matt 'Ocho' Aamold" <m_aam_old@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:CZqdnT0i3-7FaMffRVn-gw@comcast.com...>> Mark A wrote:>>> Why would Nike want to pay Augusta for the rights or pay networks to air >>> a>>> commercial using that clip when it has already received substantial free >>> air>>> time around the world.>>>
Nevertheless Augusta still owns the footage. And in order to use it for >> anything ANGC has to approve of it.>
Matt 'Ocho' Aamold 12 April 2005 02:20:13 [ permanent link ]
sfb wrote:> There must be 19 gazillion approved or legal photographers there who > have the shot and would be more than willing to sell it.
But a photograph isn't what Nike will wan't. They want the footage and unless some photographer had a video camera and legally owns the footage and sells it to Nike they can't use it in their commercials.
That said AGNC might play nice and allow Nike to use it, or Nike might do their own version so people can see the Logo and name better.
There must be 19 gazillion approved or legal photographers there who > have the shot and would be more than willing to sell it.
I doubt it. They are very strict about media access at The Masters. I am sure there are some photogs, but not hundreds or even 100. And given the lay-out of the 16th hole, I'm don't think anyone on the ground could have gotten a good shot of the ball going into the hole. You almost had to be in the TV tower to get that shot, or anything close to it.
One thing people also forget is that Larry Mize birdied the last hole just to get IN the playoff!
"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:etmdnWL_uveTuMffRVn-rw@comcast.com...> "Curly C" <KeeponChooglin@webtv.net> wrote in message> news:20840-425A18FA-338@storefull-3155.bay.webtv.net...>> I think the greatest shot was still the chip in by Mize in a 3 way>> playoff with Norman and I can't recall the other player. I forget what>> year too, maybe 1987?>>
I am not sure if the playoff started with 3 people, but buy the time Mize> chipped in it was only between Norman and Mize. Not to many thought Mize> could get up and down, and that Norman would win the playoff with a par.>
"Pas Jes" <pascalJNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message news:425b4a5f$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...> One thing people also forget is that Larry Mize birdied the last hole just> to get IN the playoff!> Another in a long series of Greg Norman's worst nightmares.
