Just thinking about what I'd want in a driving range if I ran it and cost wasn't an issue:
-Real target greens, well manicured. -Great short game practice area -Decent quality practice balls -Real grass tees -No cell phone allowed -No kids allowed, or at least, kids only area. -Targets at 10 yard increments up to 100 yards. -Mirrors at select tee boxes -Well marked yardages
"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1111602302.487137.214350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> Just thinking about what I'd want in a driving range if I ran it and> cost wasn't an issue:>
-Real target greens, well manicured.> -Great short game practice area> -Decent quality practice balls> -Real grass tees> -No cell phone allowed> -No kids allowed, or at least, kids only area.> -Targets at 10 yard increments up to 100 yards.> -Mirrors at select tee boxes> -Well marked yardages>
On 23-Mar-2005, "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
-Real target greens, well manicured.> -Great short game practice area> -Decent quality practice balls> -Real grass tees> -No cell phone allowed> -No kids allowed, or at least, kids only area.> -Targets at 10 yard increments up to 100 yards.> -Mirrors at select tee boxes> -Well marked yardages>
Am I missing anything?
Some of the short practice greens have mown fairway in front (for bump and run practice).
Although the customers won't use them - some sloped areas to hit off from. We need to practice from bad lies.
A decent sand bunker next to the range to practice fairway bunker shots. (I've got that at my home course).
If cost is no object, include video as well as mirrors.
"longNleft" <spamless@nospam.com> wrote in message news:zHi0e.1595$QM6.1140@fe02.lga...> "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message> news:1111602302.487137.214350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> > Just thinking about what I'd want in a driving range if I ran it and> > cost wasn't an issue:> >
-Real target greens, well manicured.> > -Great short game practice area> > -Decent quality practice balls> > -Real grass tees> > -No cell phone allowed> > -No kids allowed, or at least, kids only area.> > -Targets at 10 yard increments up to 100 yards.> > -Mirrors at select tee boxes> > -Well marked yardages> >
David Geesaman 23 March 2005 23:42:55 [ permanent link ]
"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1111602302.487137.214350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> Just thinking about what I'd want in a driving range if I ran it and> cost wasn't an issue:>
-Real target greens, well manicured.
You gonna fix the ball marks? The grass has to be longer to avoid damage.
-Great short game practice area
Yes, absolutely. With a putting-only green and a second green with bunkers.
-Decent quality practice balls
Pretty much any range ball that isn't worn down with shallow dimples
-Real grass tees
With enforcement on how to concentrate your divots, and a turf that has enough real dirt in it so it doesn't make a sand explosion when you hit it. Problem for me is that 1) most golfers just hack divots all over, making for a lumpy mess (you're supposed to make your divots in a continuous strip or patch!!), and 2) there is too much sand, and the grass isn't grown in well, which is like hitting off a grassy bunker.
I still like the mats for when it's wet out or I'm practicing more casually, so I want both.
-No cell phone allowed
Oh, god, no.
-No kids allowed, or at least, kids only area.
Kids only area, for sure.
-Targets at 10 yard increments up to 100 yards.
That might be getting excessive
-Mirrors at select tee boxes
That would be nice
-Well marked yardages
Yeah, that's important. On the grass range, it needs to be clear how many yards +/- the roped hitting area is that day.
Am I missing anything?
A launch monitor (for $$)
A layout where you can better see the ball land. Some good ranges I've been to have a slightly uphill slope from 150-300y out so you can better see exactly where it strikes the ground. Elevated tees over a flat range also offer great visibility, but throw off yardages. It would actually be kind of cool to have a perfectly flat range with a periscope type mirror that you easily look at to better see where the ball lands. Of course, in an ideal world, I would have a caddy who shags them and calls out the yardage for me. :o)
Beer chicks...hot, beer chicks...and go ahead and have them drive up in the cart while you are hitting, you'll get used to it that way. Also, maintenance guys driving all around while you are hitting, might as well get used to that while you practice. Oh and let's not forget, go ahead an put speakers in each stall with on-going commentary, you know the kind, "you da man", "that was your best shot", "wow, you are long"....again, so you'll get used to it.
And, one more thing, make sure all the targets are mounded, no falt driving ranges! Can't see your ball as well!!!
Tex p.s. And for where TomCat hits, pump in a shitload of smoke from Swisher Sweets and Camels. <g>
David Geesaman wrote:> "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message> news:1111602302.487137.214350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> > Just thinking about what I'd want in a driving range if I ran it
cost wasn't an issue:> >
-Real target greens, well manicured.>
You gonna fix the ball marks? The grass has to be longer to avoid
sounds just like my range except for the kids area, cell phone and the mirrors.
"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1111602302.487137.214350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> Just thinking about what I'd want in a driving range if I ran it and> cost wasn't an issue:>
-Real target greens, well manicured.> -Great short game practice area> -Decent quality practice balls> -Real grass tees> -No cell phone allowed> -No kids allowed, or at least, kids only area.> -Targets at 10 yard increments up to 100 yards.> -Mirrors at select tee boxes> -Well marked yardages>
You're applying too much of descending blow. I hit off mats all the> time and I never experience any kind of pain like you describe.>
The pain is probably more to do with my bung wrist. Every time I see someone hitting out of long think grass or following through into a tree or something I cringe. What Tiger likes to call a "stinger", cost me 6 months out of the game and my wrist probably 25% strength. It aint worth it.
Just thinking about what I'd want in a driving range if I ran it and> cost wasn't an issue:>
-Real target greens, well manicured.> -Great short game practice area> -Decent quality practice balls> -Real grass tees> -No cell phone allowed> -No kids allowed, or at least, kids only area.> -Targets at 10 yard increments up to 100 yards.> -Mirrors at select tee boxes> -Well marked yardages>
Am I missing anything?
A couple of years ago a great practice facility in Irvine, Ca. closed its doors for good, to make room for even more development.
It had 3 holes you could rent by the hour. One of the holes was about 180 yards long, the other two approximately 80 and 90 yards.
Each hole had a tee box and a couple of bunkers. That was a great setup.
My favorite driving range I've ever been on is the one at The Challenge at Manele on Lanai in Hawaii. I stood at the far right side of the range (the Vijay side) hitting balls against a mountainous backdrop. To my right was the Pacific Ocean roaring way down there below the cliffs. Behind me was the setting sun.
About the only thing I didn't like about it was when I went into the clubhouse to get a can of Diet Coke. $3.14. And that was 5 years ago.
BowTie - Chevy 24 March 2005 20:27:11 [ permanent link ]
Best of luck. I hope you recover ASAP.
Ken
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The pain is probably more to do with my bung wrist. Every time I see someone hitting out of long think grass or following through into a tree or something I cringe. What Tiger likes to call a "stinger", cost me 6 months out of the game and my wrist probably 25% strength. It aint worth it.
On 23 Mar 2005 20:25:04 -0800, "Annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
My favorite driving range I've ever been on is the one at The Challenge>at Manele on Lanai in Hawaii. I stood at the far right side of the>range (the Vijay side) hitting balls against a mountainous backdrop.>To my right was the Pacific Ocean roaring way down there below the>cliffs. Behind me was the setting sun.
Been there, done that. What a sensational place! Did you play the other course on Lanai, the Greg Norman design? Pretty good.
About the only thing I didn't like about it was when I went into the>clubhouse to get a can of Diet Coke. $3.14.>And that was 5 years ago.
Right, but if you're there, to hell with the cost, full speed ahead.
David Geesaman 24 March 2005 22:09:17 [ permanent link ]
"MacHamish" <rjimeson1@comcast.remove.net> wrote in message news:ntt5419alh950b93noags3glj3ru5teg54@4ax.com...> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:35:12 -0800, "longNleft" <spamless@nospam.com> wrote:>
I like the idea of HOT Hooters girls.>
But don't you think it would be a little difficult to practice with a
stiff> shaft?> It will keep me from crowding the ball
Larry Bud wrote:> Just thinking about what I'd want in a driving range if I ran it and> cost wasn't an issue:>
-Real target greens, well manicured.> -Great short game practice area> -Decent quality practice balls> -Real grass tees> -No cell phone allowed> -No kids allowed, or at least, kids only area.> -Targets at 10 yard increments up to 100 yards.> -Mirrors at select tee boxes> -Well marked yardages>
Am I missing anything?>
Enough space between the hitting positions that so that you danged righties stop hitting my clubs on your follow through!
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:09:17 -0500, "David Geesaman" <dgeesamannospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
"MacHamish" <rjimeson1@comcast.remove.net> wrote in message>news:ntt5419alh950b93noags3glj3ru5teg54@4ax.com...>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:35:12 -0800, "longNleft" <spamless@nospam.com>>wrote:>>
I like the idea of HOT Hooters girls.>>
But don't you think it would be a little difficult to practice with a>stiff>> shaft?>>
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:09:17 -0500, "David Geesaman" <dgeesamannospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
"MacHamish" <rjimeson1@comcast.remove.net> wrote in message> news:ntt5419alh950b93noags3glj3ru5teg54@4ax.com...> > On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:35:12 -0800, "longNleft" <spamless@nospam.com>> wrote:> >
I like the idea of HOT Hooters girls.> >
But don't you think it would be a little difficult to practice with a> stiff> > shaft?> >
It will keep me from crowding the ball >
Fellow-competitor today hit one very close to me w/out yelling "Fore!"...I told him it was a good thing I wasn't very excited, or it might've hurt real bad.
"BowTie - Chevy" wrote:> You're applying too much of descending blow. I hit off mats all the> time and I never experience any kind of pain like you describe.>
YMMV
Ken, some mats are pretty thin and hard. Any suggestions for the use of irons off them? Striking the ball w/a descending blow tends to cause the wrists to hurt. I therefore try to pick the ball off those types of mats, but topping a ball on the course shortly thereafter is a real possibility.
"John van der Pflum" <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com> wrote in message news:md0941lrrvi2m7vu5c98235489js499ud3@4ax.com...> On 25 Mar 2005 11:25:38 -0800, "dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu> wrote:>
If you really ant to see the ball land... nothing beats a water> >range... >
The range that I use is a water range and it's great. I'm not quite> sure about all the distances though.> -- >
the problem with every water range I've ever used is they use floating golf balls...which fly about 60-70% the distance a regular ball flys...so, "how far you hittin' your 6 iron today?" "Uh, about 110 downwind, but the splash is nice"
Tampa Downs Race Track ... Golf practice facility.
It is on Race-track road in Oldsmar, Fla.
May not be perfect, but darn close.
"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1111602302.487137.214350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> Just thinking about what I'd want in a driving range if I ran it and> cost wasn't an issue:>
-Real target greens, well manicured.> -Great short game practice area> -Decent quality practice balls> -Real grass tees> -No cell phone allowed> -No kids allowed, or at least, kids only area.> -Targets at 10 yard increments up to 100 yards.> -Mirrors at select tee boxes> -Well marked yardages>
John van der Pflum 26 March 2005 02:21:22 [ permanent link ]
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:11:29 -0800, "longNleft" <spamless@nospam.com> wrote:
"John van der Pflum" <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com> wrote in message>news:md0941lrrvi2m7vu5c98235489js499ud3@4ax.com...>> On 25 Mar 2005 11:25:38 -0800, "dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu> wrote:>>
If you really ant to see the ball land... nothing beats a water>> >range... >>
The range that I use is a water range and it's great. I'm not quite>> sure about all the distances though.>> -- >>
the problem with every water range I've ever used is they use floating golf>balls...which fly about 60-70% the distance a regular ball flys...so, "how>far you hittin' your 6 iron today?" "Uh, about 110 downwind, but the splash>is nice">:)>
I don't what type of balls your range uses but I would guess that the ones at the range I use lose something in the range of 5% on their distance. --
"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1111602302.487137.214350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> Just thinking about what I'd want in a driving range if I ran it and> cost wasn't an issue:>
-Real target greens, well manicured.> -Great short game practice area> -Decent quality practice balls> -Real grass tees> -No cell phone allowed> -No kids allowed, or at least, kids only area.> -Targets at 10 yard increments up to 100 yards.> -Mirrors at select tee boxes> -Well marked yardages>
Am I missing anything?>
1. Well lighted, and open 24/7/365. 2. A bar and grill with cheap beer and excellent food. 3. Inexpensive prices. 4. Good instruction available, preferably without an attitude. 5. A good pro shop. 6. A practice green. 7. Friendly, knowlegeable staff. (As opposed to the typical sneering and disinterested teen working for minimum wage.)
John van der Pflum <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com> wrote in news:rk3941d5dld6l8uhn1jilicmhmgcggbvd2@4ax.com:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:11:29 -0800, "longNleft" <spamless@nospam.com>> wrote:>
"John van der Pflum" <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com> wrote in message>>news:md0941lrrvi2m7vu5c98235489js499ud3@4ax.com...>>> On 25 Mar 2005 11:25:38 -0800, "dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu> wrote:>>>
If you really ant to see the ball land... nothing beats a water>>> >range... >>>
The range that I use is a water range and it's great. I'm not quite>>> sure about all the distances though.>>> -- >>>
the problem with every water range I've ever used is they use floating>>golf balls...which fly about 60-70% the distance a regular ball>>flys...so, "how far you hittin' your 6 iron today?" "Uh, about 110>>downwind, but the splash is nice">>:)>>
I don't what type of balls your range uses but I would guess that the> ones at the range I use lose something in the range of 5% on their> distance.
I've only played at one water range (twice), and I figured the distance loss was closer to what you suggest - e.g. 5% or so.
If the loss is predictable, and consistent, why not just move the targets in 5%? Put out a target at 190, with a big sign that reads "200". Move your 150 target to 142.5. Make the signs 5% smaller (than what?) so the distances look right to your eyes.
Seems easy to do. For the guys with rangefinders, put up a sign to 'splain it all to them.
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:46:27 GMT, "HardwareLust" <n00ne@n0where.c0m> wrote:
"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message>news:1111602302.487137.214350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...>> Just thinking about what I'd want in a driving range if I ran it and>> cost wasn't an issue:>>
-Real target greens, well manicured.>> -Great short game practice area>> -Decent quality practice balls>> -Real grass tees>> -No cell phone allowed>> -No kids allowed, or at least, kids only area.>> -Targets at 10 yard increments up to 100 yards.>> -Mirrors at select tee boxes>> -Well marked yardages>>
Am I missing anything?>>
1. Well lighted, and open 24/7/365.>2. A bar and grill with cheap beer and excellent food.>3. Inexpensive prices.>4. Good instruction available, preferably without an attitude.>5. A good pro shop.>6. A practice green.>7. Friendly, knowlegeable staff. (As opposed to the typical sneering and>disinterested teen working for minimum wage.)>
H.>
The only thing left is government subsidy, cause they ain't makin' a living. ___ \o ' | / \ Someone likes every shot* bk
On 25-Mar-2005, "longNleft" <spamless@nospam.com> wrote:
the problem with every water range I've ever used is they use floating> golf> balls...which fly about 60-70% the distance a regular ball flys...so, "how> far you hittin' your 6 iron today?" "Uh, about 110 downwind, but the> splash> is nice"
My home course isn't good at giving me distances. It is hard to tell how far my long shots go, and hard to see it on the ground. But if I can see my ball flight and direction, the practice is worth-while.
"John van der Pflum" <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com> wrote in message news:rk3941d5dld6l8uhn1jilicmhmgcggbvd2@4ax.com...> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:11:29 -0800, "longNleft" <spamless@nospam.com>> wrote:>
"John van der Pflum" <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com> wrote in message> >news:md0941lrrvi2m7vu5c98235489js499ud3@4ax.com...> >> On 25 Mar 2005 11:25:38 -0800, "dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu> wrote:> >>
If you really ant to see the ball land... nothing beats a water> >> >range... > >>
The range that I use is a water range and it's great. I'm not quite> >> sure about all the distances though.> >> -- > >>
the problem with every water range I've ever used is they use floating
golf> >balls...which fly about 60-70% the distance a regular ball flys...so, "how> >far you hittin' your 6 iron today?" "Uh, about 110 downwind, but the splash> >is nice"> >:)> >
I don't what type of balls your range uses but I would guess that the> ones at the range I use lose something in the range of 5% on their> distance.> -- >
really? I don't normally hit balls at a water range so I was going by memory. I do know that at my range here, when it rains a lot they substitute a red marked ball for the normal black ones and they are very short with long irons and woods. You don't notice it so much with PW thru 6 or 7 iron but I've hit the snot out of them driver and they won't carry 200 yds. Sometimes in the range ball bucket will be a nice Nike One or ProV1 and they are 40 to 50 yds longer with a driver...that's a lot more than 5%.
And, another thought comes to mind...maybe the range people have moved your yardage markers in to adjust for the floating balls?? Dave
<howard@brazee.net> wrote in message news:tz11e.4609$H06.4436@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...>
On 25-Mar-2005, "longNleft" <spamless@nospam.com> wrote:>
the problem with every water range I've ever used is they use floating> > golf> > balls...which fly about 60-70% the distance a regular ball flys...so,
"how> > far you hittin' your 6 iron today?" "Uh, about 110 downwind, but the> > splash> > is nice">
My home course isn't good at giving me distances. It is hard to tell how> far my long shots go, and hard to see it on the ground. But if I can
my ball flight and direction, the practice is worth-while.
I don't worry much about distance at the driving range, I concern myself with direction and shot shape. I get my yardages using my regular golf ball during practice rounds on the golf course. What I love is the range balls with no dimples on them...try to hit a draw or a fade with one of them baby's Dave
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