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GYXU > Golf > VJ: Amazing, Major Mental Error 23 March 2005 01:06:23

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VJ: Amazing, Major Mental Error
Brian Foster 21 March 2005 23:30:30
	Pretty amazing to see the best golfer in the world put one in the drink on the last hole of a tournament to loose the tournament. I guess there is hope for all of us if someone of VJ's caliber can do something like that. How many times could he make that shot and not get wet? 9 out of 10? What happens if he and Perry go to playoff? Maybe Perry still holds on? VJ does not strike me as stupid or impulsive. What was he thinking over his 2nd shot on #18 Sunday? I can tell you exactly what Perry was thinking over his 2nd shot
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Howard Brazee 21 March 2005 23:46:04 [ permanent link ]
	On 21-Mar-2005, "Brian Foster" <brianfoster@houston.rr.com> wrote: Pretty amazing to see the best golfer in the world put one in the drink on> the last hole of a tournament to loose the tournament. I guess there is hope> for all of us if someone of VJ's caliber can do something like that.> How many times could he make that shot and not get wet? 9 out of 10?> What happens if he and Perry go to playoff? Maybe Perry still holds on?> VJ does not strike me as stupid or impulsive. What was he thinking over his> 2nd shot on #18 Sunday?> I can tell you exactly what Perry was thinking over his 2nd shot I bet he's glad he hit his 1st shot long. One thing that doesn't get much press is the advantage of length in match play (or sudden death). You get to see what your opponent does with his 2nd shot.
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Multi 22 March 2005 01:55:42 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:46:04 GMT, "Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net> wrote:>One thing that doesn't get much>press is the advantage of length in match play (or sudden death). You get to>see what your opponent does with his 2nd shot. This seems so obvious to me, yet I've heard MANY pros say they'd much rather play first, to put pressure on the other guy. I would think the amount of pressure you add by hitting a good shot is like 1% of the pressure you take off by hitting a bad shot.
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Djd 22 March 2005 02:30:34 [ permanent link ]
	multi wrote:> This seems so obvious to me, yet I've heard MANY pros say they'd much> rather play first, to put pressure on the other guy. I would think> the amount of pressure you add by hitting a good shot is like 1% of> the pressure you take off by hitting a bad shot. I believe there are 2 reasons for this attitude: The first is that almost all highly competitive and accomplished athletes would rather go first, regardless of sport. The second is that the idea that they might hit a truly bad shot probably never even occurs to them, or at least not until after it has actually happened. -- Dan Driscoll RSG FAQ: http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=driscolld
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Perfect Impact 22 March 2005 03:35:46 [ permanent link ]
	"DJD" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:3a8vu1F67uat5U1@individual.net...> multi wrote:>> This seems so obvious to me, yet I've heard MANY pros say they'd much>> rather play first, to put pressure on the other guy. I would think>> the amount of pressure you add by hitting a good shot is like 1% of>> the pressure you take off by hitting a bad shot.> I believe there are 2 reasons for this attitude: The first is that almost > all highly competitive and accomplished athletes would rather go first, > regardless of sport. The second is that the idea that they might hit a > truly bad shot probably never even occurs to them, or at least not until > after it has actually happened.> -- > Dan Driscoll> RSG FAQ: http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html> RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=driscolld This is so true. Jack Nicklaus was dead serious when he said he never missed a 3' putt. The power of positive thinking - determination - is so great that even his memory blanked out his actual misses. The same phenomenon exists in the psychopath - OJ DID NOT KILL Nicole.... And that WAS NOT his golf glove.
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Colleyville Alan 22 March 2005 04:56:01 [ permanent link ]
	"multi" <multi@asm.org> wrote in message news:1jgu31pprbdcm5jmdpcu4sd6fdrc32v70u@4ax.com...> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:46:04 GMT, "Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net>> wrote:>>One thing that doesn't get much>>press is the advantage of length in match play (or sudden death). You >>get to>>see what your opponent does with his 2nd shot.> This seems so obvious to me, yet I've heard MANY pros say they'd much> rather play first, to put pressure on the other guy. I would think> the amount of pressure you add by hitting a good shot is like 1% of> the pressure you take off by hitting a bad shot. That's how I'd play it, but they are professionals and I am not. If you hit a great shot, the other guy has to sweat.
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend 22 March 2005 11:22:55 [ permanent link ]
	Perfect Impact wrote: This is so true. Jack Nicklaus was dead serious when he said he never> missed a 3' putt. The power of positive thinking - determination - is so> great that even his memory blanked out his actual misses. The same> phenomenon exists in the psychopath - OJ DID NOT KILL Nicole.... And that> WAS NOT his golf glove. That's what the OJ jury said too. Took them all of 4 hours to realize simpson was being framed by your typical lying criminal cops.
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Howard Brazee 22 March 2005 19:05:50 [ permanent link ]
	On 21-Mar-2005, multi <multi@asm.org> wrote: One thing that doesn't get much> >press is the advantage of length in match play (or sudden death). You get> >to> >see what your opponent does with his 2nd shot.> This seems so obvious to me, yet I've heard MANY pros say they'd much> rather play first, to put pressure on the other guy. I would think> the amount of pressure you add by hitting a good shot is like 1% of> the pressure you take off by hitting a bad shot. Do any pros purposefully hit short in order to play their 2nd shot first?
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Douglas Siebert 22 March 2005 23:15:18 [ permanent link ]
	"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net> writes: On 21-Mar-2005, multi <multi@asm.org> wrote: One thing that doesn't get much>> >press is the advantage of length in match play (or sudden death). You get>> >to>> >see what your opponent does with his 2nd shot.>> This seems so obvious to me, yet I've heard MANY pros say they'd much>> rather play first, to put pressure on the other guy. I would think>> the amount of pressure you add by hitting a good shot is like 1% of>> the pressure you take off by hitting a bad shot. Do any pros purposefully hit short in order to play their 2nd shot first? Used to happen when they played match play often. Walter Hagen was famous for not only doing that, but deliberately conceding putts of up to six feet at the start of the match, then making his competitor putt them all near the end when they were most likely to be nervous and would have no positive memories of making those putts earlier in the round to work from. He was so good at getting out of trouble that some claimed he would drive deliberately into trees once in a while just to frustrate his opponent when he'd play out successful and tie them with a par on a hole they felt they deserved to win! -- Douglas Siebert dsiebert@excisethis.khamsin.net "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" -- Thomas Jefferson
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Mark A 22 March 2005 23:19:59 [ permanent link ]
	"Douglas Siebert" <dsiebert@excisethis.khamsin.net> wrote in message news:d1pqs6> Used to happen when they played match play often. Walter Hagen was famous> for not only doing that, but deliberately conceding putts of up to six feet> at the start of the match, then making his competitor putt them all near> the end when they were most likely to be nervous and would have no positive> memories of making those putts earlier in the round to work from. Conceding 6 foot puts? Maybe that is a "slight" exaggeration.
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Steve 23 March 2005 01:06:23 [ permanent link ]
	That's what the OJ jury said too. Took them all of 4 hours to realize> simpson was being framed by your typical lying criminal cops.> In order for anyone with a working brain cell to believe that the cops framed OJ, they would have to believe that the cops somehow knew he did not have an airtight alibi such as being at some sort of corporate outing during the time of the crime with plenty of witnesses to back him up. Because if the cops did not know if he had an airtight alibi, they would be risking everything including a huge civil suit and time in the local crossbar hotel. There is no way they would risk that to frame someone who at the time was loved by the public. And just so we are clear, the jury found OJ not guilty, they did not find him innocent. Steve
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Guest 23 March 2005 01:47:30 [ permanent link ]
	Dan, I would add one more reason to your list. They want to go first because it means they won the last hole
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