In 2008 when it comes time to vote for McCain or Clinton
John Rogers 24 May 2005 07:31:01
I'm voting the Hillary ticket.
John McCain can tongue-kiss the rosebud resting between my pasty white cheeks.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Yeah, "Kokopeli" <wnalyd@de-l33t-me.comcast.net>, well... that's just like... your opinion man.
"OrangeDood" <gocincinnati@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:1116907969.605149.190680@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...>>
John Rogers wrote:>>> I'm voting the Hillary ticket.>>>
John McCain can tongue-kiss the rosebud resting between my pasty>> white>>> cheeks.>>
Why, what'd he do?>
The most grevious sin imaginable for Rogers. Worse than murder, rape, or his >son getting married to Van Tiffin.>
Political cockblocking.
If he's going to act like a Democrat, I might as well vote for the REAL Democrat.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Charles Beauchamp 24 May 2005 18:49:15 [ permanent link ]
Phillip A. Kallas wrote:> "John Rogers" <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote in message> news:gs75911pfkt755ahe85d32hluk6gkcvhg5@4ax.com...>> I'm voting the Hillary ticket.>>
John McCain can tongue-kiss the rosebud resting between my pasty>> white cheeks.>
Uhh, I'm pretty sure Republicans are against that sort of hijinks.
Spokane Mayor Jim West would like a word with you...a real long wet one.
-- v/r Beau
Ghosts don't exist and there is nothing to be afraid of....except for SuperAIDS.
Zaphod Beeblebrox 24 May 2005 19:13:40 [ permanent link ]
John Rogers wrote:> Yeah, "Kokopeli" <wnalyd@de-l33t-me.comcast.net>, well... that's just> like... your opinion man.>
"OrangeDood" <gocincinnati@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>news:1116907969.605149.190680@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...>>
John Rogers wrote:>>>
I'm voting the Hillary ticket.>>>>
John McCain can tongue-kiss the rosebud resting between my pasty>>>
white>>>
cheeks.>>>
Why, what'd he do?>>
The most grevious sin imaginable for Rogers. Worse than murder, rape, or his >>son getting married to Van Tiffin.>>
Political cockblocking.>
If he's going to act like a Democrat, I might as well vote for the> REAL Democrat.>
You know my reaction to the 7 Democrats who brokered this deal is somewhat along the same lines - if they're going to act like Republicans they may as well move over the dark side officially. Lieberman in particular, is as much a Democrat as Zell Miller.
John Rogers> AU Class of 1985> The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection> The Al Del Greco of Atlanta>
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - > Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, > Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You> have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother.">
(Captain Jack Aubrey, R.N. "The Ionian Mission)
-- I'm so hip I have trouble seeing over my pelvis. I'm so cool you can keep a side of meat in me for months.
Charles Beauchamp 24 May 2005 21:12:40 [ permanent link ]
Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:> John Rogers wrote:>> Yeah, "Kokopeli" <wnalyd@de-l33t-me.comcast.net>, well... that's just>> like... your opinion man.>>
"OrangeDood" <gocincinnati@yahoo.com> wrote in message>>> news:1116907969.605149.190680@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...>>>
John Rogers wrote:>>>>
I'm voting the Hillary ticket.>>>>>
John McCain can tongue-kiss the rosebud resting between my pasty>>>>
white>>>>
cheeks.>>>>
Why, what'd he do?>>>
The most grevious sin imaginable for Rogers. Worse than murder,>>> rape, or his son getting married to Van Tiffin.>>>
Political cockblocking.>>
If he's going to act like a Democrat, I might as well vote for the>> REAL Democrat.>>
You know my reaction to the 7 Democrats who brokered this deal is> somewhat along the same lines - if they're going to act like> Republicans they may as well move over the dark side officially. Lieberman > in particular, is as much a Democrat as Zell Miller.>
My curiousity is if these three Judges are now suddenly good enough for an up and down vote..what was so all fired wrong with them say 48 hours ago?
-- v/r Beau
Ghosts don't exist and there is nothing to be afraid of....except for SuperAIDS.
If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another>>>five minutes, John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com>!>>>
John McCain can tongue-kiss the rosebud resting between my>>>>>>>pasty white cheeks.>>>>>>
Why, what'd he do?>>>>>
The most grevious sin imaginable for Rogers. Worse than murder,>>>>>rape, or his son getting married to Van Tiffin.>>>>>
Political cockblocking.>>>>
If he's going to act like a Democrat, I might as well vote for>>>>the REAL Democrat.>>>
He didn't act like a Democrat so much as he just acted like a>>>politician. In this case, what he did happened to favor the>>>Democrats, but you can bet yer cowboy hat he didn't do it just>>>because he wanted the Democrats to win.>>
Who's the biggest loser in all this? Frist for president '08. Which>
other Republican senator might want to run for president in '08, who>>relies on appeal to independents and moderates? Hmmmm...>
When's the last time a Republican has been successful running for> President by appealing to independents and moderates? Eisenhower?> Hoover?
If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another>>>>five minutes, John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com>!>>>>
John McCain can tongue-kiss the rosebud resting between my>>>>>>>>pasty white cheeks.>>>>>>>
Why, what'd he do?>>>>>>
The most grevious sin imaginable for Rogers. Worse than murder,>>>>>>rape, or his son getting married to Van Tiffin.>>>>>>
Political cockblocking.>>>>>
If he's going to act like a Democrat, I might as well vote for>>>>>the REAL Democrat.>>>>
He didn't act like a Democrat so much as he just acted like a>>>>politician. In this case, what he did happened to favor the>>>>Democrats, but you can bet yer cowboy hat he didn't do it just>>>>because he wanted the Democrats to win.>>>
Who's the biggest loser in all this? Frist for president '08. Which>>
other Republican senator might want to run for president in '08, who>>>relies on appeal to independents and moderates? Hmmmm...>>
When's the last time a Republican has been successful running for>> President by appealing to independents and moderates? Eisenhower?>> Hoover?
George W. Bush in 2000.
And before that, George HW Bush in 1988, Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984.
Ford was successful by appealing to the moderate "I won't prosecute you" electorate.
rich
-- -to reply, it's hot not warm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ \ Rich Hammett http://home.hiwaay.net/~rhammett / "Better the pride that resides in a citizen of the world; \ than the pride that divides / when a colorful rag is unfurled."
Minä suojelen sinua kaikelta, mitä ikinä keksitkin sanoa, The Three of Diamonds:
Damon Scott Hynes wrote:>> > I wouldn't mind McCain, but I'm really hoping for Hagel. I would>> > actually like to see a McCain/Hagel ticket.>> >
God. Then who would the GOP put up?
I'm thinking Giuliani or Pataki in '08 with Barbour on deck for 2012.
Egad. The Howard Dean of the Republican Party.
If both Clintons are dead by then, Barbour will be campaigning against their corpses.
rich -- -to reply, it's hot not warm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ \ Rich Hammett http://home.hiwaay.net/~rhammett / "Better the pride that resides in a citizen of the world; \ than the pride that divides / when a colorful rag is unfurled."
Charles Beauchamp 25 May 2005 01:14:26 [ permanent link ]
Jon Enslin wrote:> xyzzy wrote:>> OrangeDood wrote:>>
If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another>>> five minutes, John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com>!>>>
John McCain can tongue-kiss the rosebud resting between my>>>>>>> pasty white cheeks.>>>>>>
Why, what'd he do?>>>>>
The most grevious sin imaginable for Rogers. Worse than murder,>>>>> rape, or his son getting married to Van Tiffin.>>>>>
Political cockblocking.>>>>
If he's going to act like a Democrat, I might as well vote for>>>> the REAL Democrat.>>>
He didn't act like a Democrat so much as he just acted like a>>> politician. In this case, what he did happened to favor the>>> Democrats, but you can bet yer cowboy hat he didn't do it just>>> because he wanted the Democrats to win.>>
Who's the biggest loser in all this? Frist for president '08. Which>
other Republican senator might want to run for president in '08, who>> relies on appeal to independents and moderates? Hmmmm...>
When's the last time a Republican has been successful running for> President by appealing to independents and moderates? Eisenhower?> Hoover?>
Jon
GWB...by successfully casting Kerry and Gore as left wing extremists who hate all that is traditional. Brilliant actually when you think about it..especially what with Al Gore's wife being a founder of the PMRC and all.
-- v/r Beau
Ghosts don't exist and there is nothing to be afraid of....except for SuperAIDS.
Charles Beauchamp 25 May 2005 01:19:19 [ permanent link ]
The Three of Diamonds wrote:> Damon Scott Hynes wrote:>>> I wouldn't mind McCain, but I'm really hoping for Hagel. I would>>> actually like to see a McCain/Hagel ticket.>>>
God. Then who would the GOP put up?>>
I'm thinking Giuliani or Pataki in '08 with Barbour on deck for 2012.
None of the above will ever be nominated for President by a major party.
-- v/r Beau
Ghosts don't exist and there is nothing to be afraid of....except for SuperAIDS.
Charles Beauchamp 25 May 2005 01:21:39 [ permanent link ]
mianderson@students.mcg.edu wrote:> Trent Woodruff wrote:>>> Matthew Hennig was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>> John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote in>>
I'm voting the Hillary ticket.>>>> John McCain can tongue-kiss the rosebud resting between my pasty>>>> white cheeks.>>
No way, no how would John McCain get the Republican nomination.>>
Yes...heaven forbid that the best candidate actually win the>> nomination...>>
McCain has some health and age issues if he wants the 08 nomination.> He'll be older than reagan was.>
But yeah, I think the republicans on the right are going to make a> mistake and push someone out there that isn't their best option to> win. It's certainly a mistake dems have made before. They got lucky> in 2000 in that bush was the guy they wanted and he had a great shot> to win. That won't be the case in 08 because this time we know who we> want and we know she has a great chance to win.>
Hillary would lose a general election for national office to a head of cabbage. She has a major Darth Vader factor and there is nothing at all the Dems willl be able to do that will make that go away. Liberal Dems can wish all they want that Hillary has majority appeal but she does not. What she has is appeal to liberals and it is impossible in today's America for a liberal to be elected President when the clear majority of Americans lean away from the left.
-- v/r Beau
Ghosts don't exist and there is nothing to be afraid of....except for SuperAIDS.
Phillip A. Kallas 25 May 2005 01:31:05 [ permanent link ]
"Charles Beauchamp" <C.E.Beauchamp@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message news:-6-dndTxDrx2ow7fRVn-iQ@comcast.com...> Phillip A. Kallas wrote:>> "John Rogers" <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote in message>> news:gs75911pfkt755ahe85d32hluk6gkcvhg5@4ax.com...>>> I'm voting the Hillary ticket.>>>
John McCain can tongue-kiss the rosebud resting between my pasty>>> white cheeks.>>
Uhh, I'm pretty sure Republicans are against that sort of hijinks.>
Spokane Mayor Jim West would like a word with you...a real long wet one.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
-- Phillip A. Kallas, Usenet's Most Eligible Bachelor
"There is no place in a fanatic's head where reason can enter" - Napoleon
Joel K. 'Jay' Furr 25 May 2005 01:48:09 [ permanent link ]
"Phillip A. Kallas" <gargamel@smurf.com> wrote in news:SrudnX1xOe-FAA7fRVn- qg@comcast.com:
Spokane Mayor Jim West would like a word with you...a real long wet one.>
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!>
-- > Phillip A. Kallas, Usenet's Most Eligible Bachelor
Kallas,
You know, if you didn't have such a visceral reaction to such ideas, you'd double the chances of a date on Saturday nights. Heck, in certain parts of Vermont you'd be *real* popular.
-- Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana
"Charles Beauchamp" <C.E.Beauchamp@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message news:gsadnSGq8KupBA7fRVn-2w@comcast.com...> Jon Enslin wrote:>> xyzzy wrote:>>> OrangeDood wrote:>>>
If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another>>>> five minutes, John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com>!>>>>
John McCain can tongue-kiss the rosebud resting between my>>>>>>>> pasty white cheeks.>>>>>>>
Why, what'd he do?>>>>>>
The most grevious sin imaginable for Rogers. Worse than murder,>>>>>> rape, or his son getting married to Van Tiffin.>>>>>>
Political cockblocking.>>>>>
If he's going to act like a Democrat, I might as well vote for>>>>> the REAL Democrat.>>>>
He didn't act like a Democrat so much as he just acted like a>>>> politician. In this case, what he did happened to favor the>>>> Democrats, but you can bet yer cowboy hat he didn't do it just>>>> because he wanted the Democrats to win.>>>
Who's the biggest loser in all this? Frist for president '08. Which>>
other Republican senator might want to run for president in '08, who>>> relies on appeal to independents and moderates? Hmmmm...>>
When's the last time a Republican has been successful running for>> President by appealing to independents and moderates? Eisenhower?>> Hoover?>>
GWB...by successfully casting Kerry and Gore as left wing extremists who > hate all that is traditional. Brilliant actually when you think about > it..especially what with Al Gore's wife being a founder of the PMRC and > all.
What I meant, and should have stated more clearly is, when was the last time a Republican was successful in the primaries by appealing to independents and moderates and then went on to win the Presidency?
Damon Scott Hynes 25 May 2005 07:40:20 [ permanent link ]
GWB...by successfully casting Kerry and Gore as left wing extremists who > hate all that is traditional. Brilliant actually when you think about > it..especially what with Al Gore's wife being a founder of the PMRC and all.
Revisionist swine. Sh quit the PMRC, they didn't exile her. No one put a gun to Tipper's head and forced her to swing to the left. No one forced Gore to drop the pro-life stance that got him elected to the Senate. -- Damon Scott Hynes
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in news:Xns9660E9AAE8032matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:
I think you give Dobson way more credit than he should get here.
Find a transcript of Dobson on "Hannity and Liberal coHost" tonight. He was fuming pissed about the whole thing, and Dr. Frist, his lap dog, is already making noise about breaking the deal.
Charles Beauchamp 25 May 2005 10:26:53 [ permanent link ]
Pavel Mauritius wrote:> "Charles Beauchamp" <C.E.Beauchamp@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message> news:gsadnSGq8KupBA7fRVn-2w@comcast.com...>> Jon Enslin wrote:>>> xyzzy wrote:>>>> OrangeDood wrote:>>>>
If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another>>>>> five minutes, John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com>!>>>>>
John McCain can tongue-kiss the rosebud resting between my>>>>>>>>> pasty white cheeks.>>>>>>>>
Why, what'd he do?>>>>>>>
The most grevious sin imaginable for Rogers. Worse than murder,>>>>>>> rape, or his son getting married to Van Tiffin.>>>>>>>
Political cockblocking.>>>>>>
If he's going to act like a Democrat, I might as well vote for>>>>>> the REAL Democrat.>>>>>
He didn't act like a Democrat so much as he just acted like a>>>>> politician. In this case, what he did happened to favor the>>>>> Democrats, but you can bet yer cowboy hat he didn't do it just>>>>> because he wanted the Democrats to win.>>>>
Who's the biggest loser in all this? Frist for president '08. Which>>>
other Republican senator might want to run for president in '08,>>>> who relies on appeal to independents and moderates? Hmmmm...>>>
When's the last time a Republican has been successful running for>>> President by appealing to independents and moderates? Eisenhower?>>> Hoover?>>>
GWB...by successfully casting Kerry and Gore as left wing extremists>> who hate all that is traditional. Brilliant actually when you think>> about it..especially what with Al Gore's wife being a founder of the>> PMRC and all.>
What I meant, and should have stated more clearly is, when was the> last time a Republican was successful in the primaries by appealing> to independents and moderates and then went on to win the Presidency?>
Jon
Oh well ya that's true. That would just be silly. Just as Dems must appeal to the nanny state liberals to gain support. The real trick is making the label stick to the opponent. Whichever candidate succeeds in doing that wins.
-- v/r Beau
Ghosts don't exist and there is nothing to be afraid of....except for SuperAIDS.
Charles Beauchamp, look upon my briefs, ye Mighty, and despair:>
Jon Enslin wrote:>
When's the last time a Republican has been successful running for>>>President by appealing to independents and moderates? Eisenhower?>>>Hoover?>>>
GWB...by successfully casting Kerry and Gore as left wing extremists>>who hate all that is traditional. Brilliant actually when you think>>about it..especially what with Al Gore's wife being a founder of>>the PMRC and all.>
By the same token, casting Bush in both elections as a right-wing> extremists was a failure of Democratic strategy.
Dave Reid <ddreid@comcast.net> wrote in news:Xns9660EE19050D8ddreidcomcastnet@216.196.97.131:
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in > news:Xns9660E9AAE8032matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>
I think you give Dobson way more credit than he should get here. >
Find a transcript of Dobson on "Hannity and Liberal coHost"> tonight. > He was fuming pissed about the whole thing, and Dr. Frist, his lap> dog, is already making noise about breaking the deal.
He may well have been pissed about it, but you give Dobson way more credit for power and influencea amongst Republicans. I'd never even heard of the guy before the conference that Frist had a videotaped speech to here a few weeks back.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
On Wed, 25 May 2005 07:28:57 -0500, Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote:
"OrangeDood" <gocincinnati@yahoo.com> wrote in>news:1117002111.043571.232470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>> John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote">>>
Well, why shouldn't he? The USA *is* a theocracy, after all.>>>
No, didn't you hear? John McCain and his fellow spineless weasels>>> gave in to the Democrats. The US is saved from the theocracy for>>> another day!>>
I *know* I didn't just hear you call John McCain a "spineless weasel.">
When it comes to politics, he is.
Yeah...
Ever since the Keating scandal at least. -- "Anybody that wants the presidency so much he'll spend two years organising and campaigning for it is not to be trusted with the office." - David Broder
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in news:Xns96614C2E984D6matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:
He may well have been pissed about it, but you give Dobson way more > credit for power and influencea amongst Republicans. I'd never even > heard of the guy before the conference that Frist had a videotaped> speech to here a few weeks back.
And the fact that Frist showed up for "Just-Us" sunday doesn't show you the kind of pull that Dobson has on the Republicans?
Dave Reid <ddreid@comcast.net> wrote in> news:Xns9660EE19050D8ddreidcomcastnet@216.196.97.131: >
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in >>news:Xns9660E9AAE8032matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>>
I think you give Dobson way more credit than he should get here. >>
Find a transcript of Dobson on "Hannity and Liberal coHost">> tonight. >>He was fuming pissed about the whole thing, and Dr. Frist, his lap>>dog, is already making noise about breaking the deal.>
He may well have been pissed about it, but you give Dobson way more > credit for power and influencea amongst Republicans. I'd never even > heard of the guy before the conference that Frist had a videotaped speech > to here a few weeks back.
I'm getting concerned, first you say you hadn't heard of Haley Barbour, now you say you hadn't heard of Dobson? wtf? don't you read the papers?
"Randolph M. Jones" <rjones@colby.edu> wrote in news:4294ACB6.60900@colby.edu:
Matthew Hennig wrote:>> "OrangeDood" <gocincinnati@yahoo.com> wrote in>> news:1117002111.043571.232470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: >>
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>>
John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote">>>>
Well, why shouldn't he? The USA *is* a theocracy, after all.>>>>
No, didn't you hear? John McCain and his fellow spineless weasels>>>>gave in to the Democrats. The US is saved from the theocracy for>>>>another day!>>>
I *know* I didn't just hear you call John McCain a "spineless>>>weasel." >>
When it comes to politics, he is.>
Acting against the prejudices of you and your fellow neocons makes him> a spineless weasel?
Why does he in one instance act all nice with his own party and then the next moment stabs them in the back? Especially someone who wants to be President?
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Randolph M. Jones, look upon my briefs, ye Mighty, and despair:>
Matthew Hennig wrote:>
I *know* I didn't just hear you call John McCain a "spineless weasel.">
When it comes to politics, he is.>
Acting against the prejudices of you and your fellow neocons>>makes him a spineless weasel?>
So that makes John McCain brave, but does that make him> Zell Miller brave?
I'm not aware of John McCain giving a wild-eyed, spittle-spraying speech denoucing his party or its leader, but I could have just missed it. McCain has stood with Bush at several events before and after the election.
Randolph M. Jones 25 May 2005 23:31:00 [ permanent link ]
Matthew Hennig wrote:> "Randolph M. Jones" <rjones@colby.edu> wrote in> news:4294ACB6.60900@colby.edu: >
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>
"OrangeDood" <gocincinnati@yahoo.com> wrote in>>>news:1117002111.043571.232470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: >>>
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>>>
John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote">>>>>
Well, why shouldn't he? The USA *is* a theocracy, after all.>>>>>
No, didn't you hear? John McCain and his fellow spineless weasels>>>>>gave in to the Democrats. The US is saved from the theocracy for>>>>>another day!>>>>
I *know* I didn't just hear you call John McCain a "spineless>>>>weasel." >>>
When it comes to politics, he is.>>
Acting against the prejudices of you and your fellow neocons makes him>>a spineless weasel?>
Why does he in one instance act all nice with his own party and then the> next moment stabs them in the back? Especially someone who wants to be> President?
Because he believes in moderation and compromise? Some people would vote for a presidential candidate on that basis.
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.no_junk.com> wrote:> "Randolph M. Jones" <rjones@colby.edu> wrote in> news:4294ACB6.60900@colby.edu: >
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>> "OrangeDood" <gocincinnati@yahoo.com> wrote in>>> news:1117002111.043571.232470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: >>>
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>>>
John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote">>>>>
Well, why shouldn't he? The USA *is* a theocracy, after all.>>>>>
No, didn't you hear? John McCain and his fellow spineless weasels>>>>>gave in to the Democrats. The US is saved from the theocracy for>>>>>another day!>>>>
I *know* I didn't just hear you call John McCain a "spineless>>>>weasel." >>>
When it comes to politics, he is.>>
Acting against the prejudices of you and your fellow neocons makes him>> a spineless weasel?>
Why does he in one instance act all nice with his own party and then the> next moment stabs them in the back? Especially someone who wants to be> President?
Because in one instance he thinks their position is correct and in the other he doesn't?
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in news:2T285bfqI4jjN3l@redshark.goodshow.net:
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.no_junk.com> wrote:>> "Randolph M. Jones" <rjones@colby.edu> wrote in>> news:4294ACB6.60900@colby.edu: >>
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>>> "OrangeDood" <gocincinnati@yahoo.com> wrote in>>>> news:1117002111.043571.232470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: >>>>
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>>>>
John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote">>>>>>
Well, why shouldn't he? The USA *is* a theocracy, after all.>>>>>>
No, didn't you hear? John McCain and his fellow spineless weasels>>>>>>gave in to the Democrats. The US is saved from the theocracy for>>>>>>another day!>>>>>
I *know* I didn't just hear you call John McCain a "spineless>>>>>weasel." >>>>
When it comes to politics, he is.>>>
Acting against the prejudices of you and your fellow neocons makes>>> him a spineless weasel?>>
Why does he in one instance act all nice with his own party and then>> the next moment stabs them in the back? Especially someone who wants>> to be President? >
Because in one instance he thinks their position is correct and in the> other he doesn't?>
And they wonder why the "Either you're with me or you're my enemy." line resonates.
Yeah, "OrangeDood" <gocincinnati@yahoo.com>, well... that's just like... your opinion man.
Matthew Hennig wrote:>> John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote">>
Well, why shouldn't he? The USA *is* a theocracy, after all.>>
No, didn't you hear? John McCain and his fellow spineless weasels gave>> in to the Democrats. The US is saved from the theocracy for another>> day!>
I *know* I didn't just hear you call John McCain a "spineless weasel."
John McCain has all kinds of spine when it comes to maneuvers to get him some glowing reviews from The New Yorker and the Washington Post.
I hope he hasn't thrown his arm out after patting himself on the back so much the last couple of days for saving the "integrity" of his exclusive Boy's Club.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Yeah, Dave Reid <ddreid@comcast.net>, well... that's just like... your opinion man.
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in >news:Xns9660E9AAE8032matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>
I think you give Dobson way more credit than he should get here. >
Find a transcript of Dobson on "Hannity and Liberal coHost" tonight. >He was fuming pissed about the whole thing, and Dr. Frist, his lap dog, is >already making noise about breaking the deal.
Ummm... the deal was between 14 individual Senators (7 Repubs fighting against the will of their caucus and 7 Dems performing at the orders of their caucus). Frist was not party to nor did he ever agree to abide by such a "deal".
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
xyzzy <invalid@addr.net> wrote in news:42949464_4@news1.prserv.net:
Matthew Hennig wrote:>
Dave Reid <ddreid@comcast.net> wrote in>> news:Xns9660EE19050D8ddreidcomcastnet@216.196.97.131: >>
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in >>>news:Xns9660E9AAE8032matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>>>
I think you give Dobson way more credit than he should get here. >>>
Find a transcript of Dobson on "Hannity and Liberal coHost">>> tonight. >>>He was fuming pissed about the whole thing, and Dr. Frist, his lap>>>dog, is already making noise about breaking the deal.>>
He may well have been pissed about it, but you give Dobson way more >> credit for power and influencea amongst Republicans. I'd never even >> heard of the guy before the conference that Frist had a videotaped>> speech to here a few weeks back.>
I'm getting concerned, first you say you hadn't heard of Haley> Barbour, now you say you hadn't heard of Dobson? wtf? don't you read> the papers?
Newspapers? Rarely. I'm not familiar with Barbour at all - what he believes in, track record, etc. Dobson I'd not heard of until a few weeks back. For two people that are supposedly so influential, don't you think it says something when I've not heard much if any about them? (And yes, I keep up with things mostly online).
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
"Randolph M. Jones" <rjones@colby.edu> wrote in news:4294D274.3090505@colby.edu:
Matthew Hennig wrote:>> "Randolph M. Jones" <rjones@colby.edu> wrote in>> news:4294ACB6.60900@colby.edu: >>
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>>
"OrangeDood" <gocincinnati@yahoo.com> wrote in>>>>news:1117002111.043571.232470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: >>>>
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>>>>
John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote">>>>>>
Well, why shouldn't he? The USA *is* a theocracy, after all.>>>>>>
No, didn't you hear? John McCain and his fellow spineless weasels>>>>>>gave in to the Democrats. The US is saved from the theocracy for>>>>>>another day!>>>>>
I *know* I didn't just hear you call John McCain a "spineless>>>>>weasel." >>>>
When it comes to politics, he is.>>>
Acting against the prejudices of you and your fellow neocons makes>>>him a spineless weasel?>>
Why does he in one instance act all nice with his own party and then>> the next moment stabs them in the back? Especially someone who wants>> to be President? >
Because he believes in moderation and compromise? Some people would > vote for a presidential candidate on that basis.
He has some strange ideas on moderation and compromise. And his ideas won't win enough of the Republicans to gain the nomination, even if some Democrats love him.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Yeah, OrangeDood <no_this_isnt@my_email.com>, well... that's just like... your opinion man.
If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another>five minutes, "Randolph M. Jones" <rjones@colby.edu>! >
Well, why shouldn't he? The USA *is* a theocracy, after all.>>>>>
No, didn't you hear? John McCain and his fellow spineless>>>>>weasels gave in to the Democrats. The US is saved from the>>>>>theocracy for another day!>>>>
I *know* I didn't just hear you call John McCain a "spineless>>>>weasel." >>>
When it comes to politics, he is.>>
Acting against the prejudices of you and your fellow neocons>> makes him a spineless weasel?>
Apparently. Let's all try and forget the sacrifices McCain made in >defense of this fucked-up country.
I have been verified by the VA as having a 10% disability due to the broken back I suffered while serving in the Navy. Yet you are a meen won to me.
*sigh*
I guess I need to be a Democratic-suck-up weasel to get any respect out of you commies around here.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Yeah, "Randolph M. Jones" <rjones@colby.edu>, well... that's just like... your opinion man.
Matthew Hennig wrote:>> "Randolph M. Jones" <rjones@colby.edu> wrote in>> news:4294ACB6.60900@colby.edu: >>
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>>
"OrangeDood" <gocincinnati@yahoo.com> wrote in>>>>news:1117002111.043571.232470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: >>>>
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>>>>
John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote">>>>>>
Well, why shouldn't he? The USA *is* a theocracy, after all.>>>>>>
No, didn't you hear? John McCain and his fellow spineless weasels>>>>>>gave in to the Democrats. The US is saved from the theocracy for>>>>>>another day!>>>>>
I *know* I didn't just hear you call John McCain a "spineless>>>>>weasel." >>>>
When it comes to politics, he is.>>>
Acting against the prejudices of you and your fellow neocons makes him>>>a spineless weasel?>>
Why does he in one instance act all nice with his own party and then the>> next moment stabs them in the back? Especially someone who wants to be>> President? >
Because he believes in moderation and compromise? Some people would >vote for a presidential candidate on that basis.
So do you agree with his moderate position on abortion? Or the Iraq War?
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Yeah, kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy), well... that's just like... your opinion man.
John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> writes:>> Yeah, "OrangeDood" <gocincinnati@yahoo.com>, well...>> >Matthew Hennig wrote:>> >> John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote">> >>
Well, why shouldn't he? The USA *is* a theocracy, after all.>> >>
No, didn't you hear? John McCain and his fellow spineless weasels gave>> >> in to the Democrats. The US is saved from the theocracy for another>> >> day!>> >
I *know* I didn't just hear you call John McCain a "spineless weasel.">>
John McCain has all kinds of spine when it comes to maneuvers to get>> him some glowing reviews from The New Yorker and the Washington Post.>>
I hope he hasn't thrown his arm out after patting himself on the back>> so much the last couple of days for saving the "integrity" of his>> exclusive Boy's Club.>
His arm? I just hope the poor guy's P0L3!@!1!>isn't sore from rsfcking George W. Bush so hard. *guffaw*
When yer right, yer right.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Yeah, "Dan Bretta" <nudan92@yahoo.com>, well... that's just like... your opinion man.
John Rogers wrote:>> Yeah, OrangeDood <no_this_isnt@my_email.com>, well... that's just>> like... your opinion man.>>
If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another>> >five minutes, "Randolph M. Jones" <rjones@colby.edu>!>> >
Well, why shouldn't he? The USA *is* a theocracy, after all.>> >>>>>
No, didn't you hear? John McCain and his fellow spineless>> >>>>>weasels gave in to the Democrats. The US is saved from the>> >>>>>theocracy for another day!>> >>>>
I *know* I didn't just hear you call John McCain a "spineless>> >>>>weasel.">> >>>
When it comes to politics, he is.>> >>
Acting against the prejudices of you and your fellow neocons>> >> makes him a spineless weasel?>> >
Apparently. Let's all try and forget the sacrifices McCain made in>> >defense of this fucked-up country.>>
I have been verified by the VA as having a 10% disability due to the>> broken back I suffered while serving in the Navy. Yet you are a meen>> won to me.>>
How did you break your back?
Falling 10-ft onto a steel deck onto my back. My head recovered (at least so some people say). My lower back never did. Fractured a lumbar vertebrae and never really knew it until a few months down the road.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
"Dan Bretta" <nudan92@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1117069354.127617.90720@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Matthew Hennig wrote:>> xyzzy <invalid@addr.net> wrote in news:42949464_4@news1.prserv.net:>>
Matthew Hennig wrote:>> >
Dave Reid <ddreid@comcast.net> wrote in>> >> news:Xns9660EE19050D8ddreidcomcastnet@216.196.97.131:>> >>
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in>> >>>news:Xns9660E9AAE8032matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>> >>>
I think you give Dobson way more credit than he should get here.>> >>>
Find a transcript of Dobson on "Hannity and Liberal>> >>> coHost" tonight.>> >>>He was fuming pissed about the whole thing, and Dr. Frist, his lap>> >>>dog, is already making noise about breaking the deal.>> >>
He may well have been pissed about it, but you give Dobson way>> >> more credit for power and influencea amongst Republicans. I'd>> >> never even heard of the guy before the conference that Frist had a>> >> videotaped speech to here a few weeks back.>> >
I'm getting concerned, first you say you hadn't heard of Haley>> > Barbour, now you say you hadn't heard of Dobson? wtf? don't you>> > read the papers?>>
Newspapers? Rarely. I'm not familiar with Barbour at all - what he>> believes in, track record, etc. Dobson I'd not heard of until a few>> weeks back. For two people that are supposedly so influential, don't>> you think it says something when I've not heard much if any about>> them? (And yes, I keep up with things mostly online).>>
Are you a registered Republican??? I ask this because Dobson
No. I'm not registered to any specific party.
regularly mails out crap to registered Republicans. I know this> because the Republican party apparently never got the memo that I've> switched parties so I get political mail a couple of times a week from> both the democrats and repubs. On the Hugh Hewitt show Dobson said> that he spent 7 million dollars on mailers over the fillibuster issue.
I don't listen to Hugh's show, either.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Yeah, "Dan Bretta" <nudan92@yahoo.com>, well... that's just like... your opinion man.
John Rogers wrote:>> Yeah, "Dan Bretta" <nudan92@yahoo.com>, well... that's just like...>> your opinion man.>>
John Rogers wrote:>> >> Yeah, OrangeDood <no_this_isnt@my_email.com>, well... that's just>> >> like... your opinion man.>> >>
If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another>> >> >five minutes, "Randolph M. Jones" <rjones@colby.edu>!>> >> >
Well, why shouldn't he? The USA *is* a theocracy, after all.>> >> >>>>>
No, didn't you hear? John McCain and his fellow spineless>> >> >>>>>weasels gave in to the Democrats. The US is saved from the>> >> >>>>>theocracy for another day!>> >> >>>>
I *know* I didn't just hear you call John McCain a "spineless>> >> >>>>weasel.">> >> >>>
When it comes to politics, he is.>> >> >>
Acting against the prejudices of you and your fellow neocons>> >> >> makes him a spineless weasel?>> >> >
Apparently. Let's all try and forget the sacrifices McCain made in>> >> >defense of this fucked-up country.>> >>
I have been verified by the VA as having a 10% disability due to the>> >> broken back I suffered while serving in the Navy. Yet you are a meen>> >> won to me.>> >>
How did you break your back?>>
Falling 10-ft onto a steel deck onto my back. My head recovered (at>> least so some people say). My lower back never did. Fractured a lumbar>> vertebrae and never really knew it until a few months down the road.>>
Ouch. Did it end your naval career?
Yep.
Five officers out of the wardroom of the ship that I was stationed on have now made Admiral. If I had been able to stay in, next month would have been finishing my 20th year.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote in news:173a91976t7cld1sba3b6hbkinph2pppnc@4ax.com:
Ummm... the deal was between 14 individual Senators (7 Repubs fighting> against the will of their caucus and 7 Dems performing at the orders> of their caucus). Frist was not party to nor did he ever agree to> abide by such a "deal".
Which is why Dobson is so bent out of shape. What good is it having the Senate Majority Leader in your back pocket when he can't even keep his own guys in line?
Dave Reid <ddreid@comcast.net> wrote in news:Xns9661EE016A9C8ddreidcomcastnet@216.196.97.131:
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in > news:Xns9661D5F02D91Cmatthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>
I don't listen to Hugh's show, either.>
You are lucky to have missed it. True C-list level rightwing> hack.
I've read his blog on occasion. He has some good points sometimes, sometimes is a bit off the mark. I'm not sure I'd quite call him C-list from what I've read, though.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Yeah, rjones@colby.edu, well... that's just like... your opinion man.
John Rogers wrote:>> Yeah, "Randolph M. Jones" <rjones@colby.edu>, well... that's just>> like... your opinion man.>>
Matthew Hennig wrote:>> >> "Randolph M. Jones" <rjones@colby.edu> wrote in>> >> news:4294ACB6.60900@colby.edu:>> >>
Matthew Hennig wrote:>> >>>
"OrangeDood" <gocincinnati@yahoo.com> wrote in>> >>>>news:1117002111.043571.232470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:>> >>>>
Matthew Hennig wrote:>> >>>>>
John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote">> >>>>>>
Well, why shouldn't he? The USA *is* a theocracy, after all.>> >>>>>>
No, didn't you hear? John McCain and his fellow spineless weasels>> >>>>>>gave in to the Democrats. The US is saved from the theocracy for>> >>>>>>another day!>> >>>>>
I *know* I didn't just hear you call John McCain a "spineless>> >>>>>weasel.">> >>>>
When it comes to politics, he is.>> >>>
Acting against the prejudices of you and your fellow neocons makes him>> >>>a spineless weasel?>> >>
Why does he in one instance act all nice with his own party and then the>> >> next moment stabs them in the back? Especially someone who wants to be>> >> President?>> >
Because he believes in moderation and compromise? Some people would>> >vote for a presidential candidate on that basis.>>
So do you agree with his moderate position on abortion? Or the Iraq>> War?>
Partly.>
Why do you ask?
Because you seem to have the impression that he is a moderate and a compromiser on all issues instead the political opportunist and hack that he is.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
xyzzy <invalid@addr.net> wrote in news:42937f45_3@news1.prserv.net:
Jon Enslin wrote:>
xyzzy wrote:>>
Jon Enslin wrote:>>>
xyzzy wrote:>>>>
OrangeDood wrote:>>>>>
If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another>>>>>>five minutes, John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com>!>>>>>>
John McCain can tongue-kiss the rosebud resting between my>>>>>>>>>>pasty white cheeks.>>>>>>>>>
Why, what'd he do?>>>>>>>>
The most grevious sin imaginable for Rogers. Worse than murder,>>>>>>>>rape, or his son getting married to Van Tiffin.>>>>>>>>
Political cockblocking.>>>>>>>
If he's going to act like a Democrat, I might as well vote for>>>>>>>the REAL Democrat.>>>>>>
He didn't act like a Democrat so much as he just acted like a>>>>>>politician. In this case, what he did happened to favor the>>>>>>Democrats, but you can bet yer cowboy hat he didn't do it just>>>>>>because he wanted the Democrats to win.>>>>>
Who's the biggest loser in all this? Frist for president '08.>>
Which>>
other Republican senator might want to run for president in '08,>>
relies on appeal to independents and moderates? Hmmmm...>>>>
When's the last time a Republican has been successful running for>>>>President by appealing to independents and moderates? Eisenhower?>>>>Hoover?>>>
George W. Bush in 2000.>>
The same "W" who bashed McCain in South Carolina? >
Yeah that guy. The "compassionate conservative." The guy who> advocated a "more modest" foreign policy that avoided "nation> building."
Do you feel that if 9/11 hadn't happened that Bush would still have moved towards "nation building"?
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
xyzzy <invalid@addr.net> wrote in news:42937f45_3@news1.prserv.net:>
Jon Enslin wrote:>>
xyzzy wrote:>>>
Jon Enslin wrote:>>>>
xyzzy wrote:>>>>>
OrangeDood wrote:>>>>>>
If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another>>>>>>>five minutes, John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com>!>>>>>>>
John McCain can tongue-kiss the rosebud resting between my>>>>>>>>>>>pasty white cheeks.>>>>>>>>>>
Why, what'd he do?>>>>>>>>>
The most grevious sin imaginable for Rogers. Worse than murder,>>>>>>>>>rape, or his son getting married to Van Tiffin.>>>>>>>>>
Political cockblocking.>>>>>>>>
If he's going to act like a Democrat, I might as well vote for>>>>>>>>the REAL Democrat.>>>>>>>
He didn't act like a Democrat so much as he just acted like a>>>>>>>politician. In this case, what he did happened to favor the>>>>>>>Democrats, but you can bet yer cowboy hat he didn't do it just>>>>>>>because he wanted the Democrats to win.>>>>>>
Who's the biggest loser in all this? Frist for president '08.>>>
Which>>>
other Republican senator might want to run for president in '08,>>>
relies on appeal to independents and moderates? Hmmmm...>>>>>
When's the last time a Republican has been successful running for>>>>>President by appealing to independents and moderates? Eisenhower?>>>>>Hoover?>>>>
George W. Bush in 2000.>>>
The same "W" who bashed McCain in South Carolina? >>
Yeah that guy. The "compassionate conservative." The guy who>>advocated a "more modest" foreign policy that avoided "nation>>building." >
Do you feel that if 9/11 hadn't happened that Bush would still have> moved towards "nation building"? >
xyzzy <invalid@addr.net> wrote in news:42960d1d_4@news1.prserv.net:
Matthew Hennig wrote:>
xyzzy <invalid@addr.net> wrote in news:42937f45_3@news1.prserv.net:>>
Jon Enslin wrote:>>>
xyzzy wrote:>>>>
Jon Enslin wrote:>>>>>
xyzzy wrote:>>>>>>
OrangeDood wrote:>>>>>>>
If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another>>>>>>>>five minutes, John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com>!>>>>>>>>
John McCain can tongue-kiss the rosebud resting between my>>>>>>>>>>>>pasty white cheeks.>>>>>>>>>>>
Why, what'd he do?>>>>>>>>>>
The most grevious sin imaginable for Rogers. Worse than murder,>>>>>>>>>>rape, or his son getting married to Van Tiffin.>>>>>>>>>>
Political cockblocking.>>>>>>>>>
If he's going to act like a Democrat, I might as well vote for>>>>>>>>>the REAL Democrat.>>>>>>>>
He didn't act like a Democrat so much as he just acted like a>>>>>>>>politician. In this case, what he did happened to favor the>>>>>>>>Democrats, but you can bet yer cowboy hat he didn't do it just>>>>>>>>because he wanted the Democrats to win.>>>>>>>
Who's the biggest loser in all this? Frist for president '08.>>>>
Which>>>>
other Republican senator might want to run for president in '08,>>>>
relies on appeal to independents and moderates? Hmmmm...>>>>>>
When's the last time a Republican has been successful running for>>>>>>President by appealing to independents and moderates? Eisenhower?>>>>>>Hoover?>>>>>
George W. Bush in 2000.>>>>
The same "W" who bashed McCain in South Carolina? >>>
Yeah that guy. The "compassionate conservative." The guy who>>>advocated a "more modest" foreign policy that avoided "nation>>>building." >>
Do you feel that if 9/11 hadn't happened that Bush would still have>> moved towards "nation building"? >>
What's 9/11 got to do with Iraq?
There was a fundamental shift in foreign policy following 9/11. Allowing Saddam to continue to defy the US (and UN) and with its suspected WMD programs (that everyone thought he had), the new policies insisted that something must be done. The 9/11 attack, however, did not involve Iraq.
Basically, the 9/10 status quo did not work on 9/12.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in news:Xns9662EECF36276matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:
It'd be one thing if they could give a good reason for opposing whatever > Bush suggests. They usually can't.
Sure they can, and do. You may not believe they are "good" reasons, but there are reasons. And its not like the republicans were exactly turning handsprings of Joy at Clinton's proposals when he was in office. Its the way the game is played. And why are the Republicans whining anyways? Hell, the have the Presidency and both houses of congress and a solid majority in the Supreme Court. Why aren't they just ramming everything through that they want?
Dave Reid <ddreid@comcast.net> wrote in news:Xns9662DB681191Eddreidcomcastnet@216.196.97.131:
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in > news:Xns9662EECF36276matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>
It'd be one thing if they could give a good reason for opposing>> whatever Bush suggests. They usually can't.>
Sure they can, and do. You may not believe they are "good"> reasons, but there are reasons.> And its not like the republicans were exactly turning> handsprings of Joy at Clinton's proposals when he was in> office. Its the way the game is played. And why are the> Republicans whining anyways? Hell, the have the Presidency> and both houses of congress and a solid majority in the> Supreme Court. Why aren't they just ramming everything> through that they want?
They could not give any good details on why these judges they are opposing are bad. It's usually 'they are extreme!' as the battle cry. They can't say why fixing Social Security is bad, except to stick their heads in the sand and say there is no problem.
Some of their reasons aren't reasons. Give some opposing ideas. Just don't make your ideas the exact opposite of anything Bush and the Republicans want. That's not a way to win support.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
John Rogers was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>Yeah, "Dan Bretta" <nudan92@yahoo.com>, well... that's just like...>>your opinion man.>>>John Rogers wrote:>>>> Yeah, "Dan Bretta" <nudan92@yahoo.com>, well... that's just like...
I have been verified by the VA as having a 10% disability due to the>>>>> broken back I suffered while serving in the Navy. Yet you are a meen>>>>> won to me.
How did you break your back?
Falling 10-ft onto a steel deck onto my back. My head recovered (at>>> least so some people say). My lower back never did. Fractured a lumbar>>> vertebrae and never really knew it until a few months down the road.
Ouch. Did it end your naval career?
Yep.
It ended your career and you only got 10%? Now THAT SUCKS. How many years did you have in?
One of my troops just got MEB'd (Medical Evaluation Boarded). They decided to kick him out after 17 years. He gets 12%. It pisses me off.
Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in news:Xns966310F5F118matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:
They could not give any good details on why these judges they are > opposing are bad. It's usually 'they are extreme!' as the battle cry.
They gave plenty of reasons. Should I point you in the direction of them?
They can't say why fixing Social Security is bad, except to stick their > heads in the sand and say there is no problem.
Once again, they've given plenty of reasons on why the oppose the President's "plan" on SS (which, interestingly enough, he still hasn't fully introduced).
Some of their reasons aren't reasons. Give some opposing ideas. Just > don't make your ideas the exact opposite of anything Bush and the > Republicans want. That's not a way to win support.
Have you seen the latest approval numbers for both the Congress and the President?
Dave Reid <ddreid@comcast.net> wrote in news:Xns9662ED23753FCddreidcomcastnet@216.196.97.131:
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in > news:Xns966310F5F118matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>
They could not give any good details on why these judges they are >> opposing are bad. It's usually 'they are extreme!' as the battle>> cry. >
They gave plenty of reasons. Should I point you in the> direction of them?
Sure, show me some real reasons why these judges that have been filibuster were opposed.
They can't say why fixing Social Security is bad, except to stick>> their heads in the sand and say there is no problem. >
Once again, they've given plenty of reasons on why the oppose> the President's "plan" on SS (which, interestingly enough, he> still hasn't fully introduced).
It's fine to oppose the President's plan. But they aren't really giving any of their own ways to fix the problem. Back before Bush, the Democrats were talking about how Social Security needed fixing. Now when Bush wants to fix it, they say there is no problem. That's not the way to win support.
Some of their reasons aren't reasons. Give some opposing ideas. >> Just don't make your ideas the exact opposite of anything Bush and>> the Republicans want. That's not a way to win support.>
Have you seen the latest approval numbers for both the> Congress and the President?
Well, of course I'd want to see the internals of the poll to find out how to interpret it.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
[Trent Woodruff woodruffs@cableone.net] [Fri, 27 May 2005 05:29:50 GMT]
:It ended your career and you only got 10%? Now THAT SUCKS. How many :years did you have in? : :One of my troops just got MEB'd (Medical Evaluation Boarded). They :decided to kick him out after 17 years. He gets 12%. It pisses me :off.
I may get MEB'd, myself. I'm told I have a chance at medical retirement (full retirement pay/benefits), if that happens, as my injuries preclude staying in (assuming this next surgery doesn't fix them).
I don't consider that likely, though.. more likely about 30%.
IF they MEB me, anyway.
-- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com
"To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in news:Xns96635C9B46432matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:
Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com> wrote in> news:Xns966343D59B169idontwan2knowspamsuc@65.32.5.121: >
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in >> news:Xns9663583B6331matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>>
woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in>>> news:4296b08b.8331689@news.cableone.net: >>>
Wonko the Sane was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>>
No way, no how would John McCain get the Republican nomination.>>>>
Yes...heaven forbid that the best candidate actually win the>>>>>>nomination...>>>>
If that weasel is the best the Republican party can do, they>>>>>deserve to lose.>>>>
If the Republican Party is unable to see that he's the best>>>> candidate, then they deserve to lose.>>>
Please tell me how John McCain is the best Republican candidate for>>> 2008. >>
Because he would win.>>
In a landslide.>>
HTH.>
Please explain how you come to that conclusion.
Because as much as you might dislike him, the vast majority of republicans would vote for him. Furthermore, a significant majority of independents would vote for him. And to top it off, many centrist democrats and even those further left who have become disillusioned by their own party's lack of coherence and fortitude would vote for him.
But, once he got in office, the party wouldn't be able to pull his strings, so I can understand why you wouldn't want that.
Minä suojelen sinua kaikelta, mitä ikinä keksitkin sanoa, Ralph Kennedy:
2. He's not a fundamentalist right-wing Christian> moron who thinks using embryos desperately> needed for stem-cell research that are> scheduled to be destroyed anyway is "taking> life."
Don't worry, Tom DeLay has said he's going to address that problem next, to keep them from being destroyed. I think he finally spotted the obvious weakness in his case.
4. He knows what the word "compromise" means, and he> isn't childishly stubborn like a mule. When> he says he's a uniter and not a divider--well,> he doesn't even say crap like that, he just> walks the walk instead of talking the talk.
I've been a little disappointed in his willingness to speak to Bush as a human being after the SC gambit.
rich
-- -to reply, it's hot not warm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ \ Rich Hammett http://home.hiwaay.net/~rhammett / "Better the pride that resides in a citizen of the world; \ than the pride that divides / when a colorful rag is unfurled."
Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com> wrote in news:Xns966390230EE52idontwan2knowspamsuc@65.32.5.122:
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in > news:Xns96635C9B46432matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>
Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com> wrote in>> news:Xns966343D59B169idontwan2knowspamsuc@65.32.5.121: >>
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in >>> news:Xns9663583B6331matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>>>
woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in>>>> news:4296b08b.8331689@news.cableone.net: >>>>
Wonko the Sane was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>>>
No way, no how would John McCain get the Republican nomination.>>>>>
Yes...heaven forbid that the best candidate actually win the>>>>>>>nomination...>>>>>
If that weasel is the best the Republican party can do, they>>>>>>deserve to lose.>>>>>
If the Republican Party is unable to see that he's the best>>>>> candidate, then they deserve to lose.>>>>
Please tell me how John McCain is the best Republican candidate for>>>> 2008. >>>
Because he would win.>>>
In a landslide.>>>
HTH.>>
Please explain how you come to that conclusion. >
Because as much as you might dislike him, the vast majority of> republicans would vote for him. Furthermore, a significant majority of> independents would vote for him. And to top it off, many centrist> democrats and even those further left who have become disillusioned by> their own party's lack of coherence and fortitude would vote for him.
I'm not sure the popularity is as rampant in the Republicans for McCain as much as independents and democrats.
But, once he got in office, the party wouldn't be able to pull his> strings, so I can understand why you wouldn't want that.
Its not that McCain would not have his strings pulled, I'd have no problem with that. My problem is that I don't agree with some of the things he says or does. It doesn't agree with what I believe sometimes. I think as a candidate, I'd want someone that closer matched me. And no, I couldn't name off a name right now if you asked.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in news:Xns966393E2E3DE0matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:
Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com> wrote in> news:Xns966390230EE52idontwan2knowspamsuc@65.32.5.122: >
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in >> news:Xns96635C9B46432matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>>
Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com> wrote in>>> news:Xns966343D59B169idontwan2knowspamsuc@65.32.5.121: >>>
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in >>>> news:Xns9663583B6331matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>>>>
woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in>>>>> news:4296b08b.8331689@news.cableone.net: >>>>>
Wonko the Sane was cut from the Baylor football team for>>>>>>>saying... >>>>>>
No way, no how would John McCain get the Republican nomination.>>>>>>
Yes...heaven forbid that the best candidate actually win the>>>>>>>>nomination...>>>>>>
If that weasel is the best the Republican party can do, they>>>>>>>deserve to lose.>>>>>>
If the Republican Party is unable to see that he's the best>>>>>> candidate, then they deserve to lose.>>>>>
Please tell me how John McCain is the best Republican candidate>>>>> for 2008. >>>>
Because he would win.>>>>
In a landslide.>>>>
HTH.>>>
Please explain how you come to that conclusion. >>
Because as much as you might dislike him, the vast majority of>> republicans would vote for him. Furthermore, a significant majority>> of independents would vote for him. And to top it off, many centrist>> democrats and even those further left who have become disillusioned>> by their own party's lack of coherence and fortitude would vote for>> him. >
I'm not sure the popularity is as rampant in the Republicans for> McCain as much as independents and democrats.
Which is why he can't get nominated.
Regardless, if he did, most republicans would vote for him.
deemsbill@aol.com wrote in news:1117227439.674876.68450 @g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Alan Mundy wrote:>> Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in>> news:Xns966393E2E3DE0matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>>
Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com> wrote in>> > news:Xns966390230EE52idontwan2knowspamsuc@65.32.5.122:>> >
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in>> >> news:Xns96635C9B46432matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>> >>
Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com> wrote in>> >>> news:Xns966343D59B169idontwan2knowspamsuc@65.32.5.121:>> >>>
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in>> >>>> news:Xns9663583B6331matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>> >>>>
woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in>> >>>>> news:4296b08b.8331689@news.cableone.net:>> >>>>>
Wonko the Sane was cut from the Baylor football team for>> >>>>>>>saying...>> >>>>>>
No way, no how would John McCain get the Republican
nomination.>> >>>>>>
Yes...heaven forbid that the best candidate actually win the>> >>>>>>>>nomination...>> >>>>>>
If that weasel is the best the Republican party can do, they>> >>>>>>>deserve to lose.>> >>>>>>
If the Republican Party is unable to see that he's the best>> >>>>>> candidate, then they deserve to lose.>> >>>>>
Please tell me how John McCain is the best Republican candidate>> >>>>> for 2008.>> >>>>
Because he would win.>> >>>>
In a landslide.>> >>>>
HTH.>> >>>
Please explain how you come to that conclusion.>> >>
Because as much as you might dislike him, the vast majority of>> >> republicans would vote for him. Furthermore, a significant
majority>> >> of independents would vote for him. And to top it off, many centrist>> >> democrats and even those further left who have become disillusioned>> >> by their own party's lack of coherence and fortitude would vote
him.>> >
I'm not sure the popularity is as rampant in the Republicans for>> > McCain as much as independents and democrats.>>
Which is why he can't get nominated.>>
Regardless, if he did, most republicans would vote for him.>>
-->> Alan Mundy>
Don't you think most Republicans would vote for whoever gets> nominated?
Yeah, woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff), well... that's just like... your opinion man.
John Rogers was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>Yeah, "Dan Bretta" <nudan92@yahoo.com>, well... that's just like...>>>your opinion man.>>>>John Rogers wrote:>>>>> Yeah, "Dan Bretta" <nudan92@yahoo.com>, well... that's just like...>
I have been verified by the VA as having a 10% disability due to the>>>>>> broken back I suffered while serving in the Navy. Yet you are a meen>>>>>> won to me.>
How did you break your back?>
Falling 10-ft onto a steel deck onto my back. My head recovered (at>>>> least so some people say). My lower back never did. Fractured a lumbar>>>> vertebrae and never really knew it until a few months down the road.>
Ouch. Did it end your naval career?>
Yep.>
It ended your career and you only got 10%? Now THAT SUCKS. How many>years did you have in?>
One of my troops just got MEB'd (Medical Evaluation Boarded). They>decided to kick him out after 17 years. He gets 12%. It pisses me>off.
I was in for 7 years. It sounds like your man kinda got scrood. Not surprising when it comes to MEB's.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Yeah, Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com>, well... that's just like... your opinion man.
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in >news:Xns9663583B6331matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>
woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in>> news:4296b08b.8331689@news.cableone.net: >>
Wonko the Sane was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>
No way, no how would John McCain get the Republican nomination.>>>
Yes...heaven forbid that the best candidate actually win the>>>>>nomination...>>>
If that weasel is the best the Republican party can do, they deserve>>>>to lose.>>>
If the Republican Party is unable to see that he's the best candidate,>>> then they deserve to lose.>>
Please tell me how John McCain is the best Republican candidate for 2008.>
Because he would win.>
In a landslide.>
HTH.
Not a snowball's chance in hell.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Yeah, Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com>, well... that's just like... your opinion man.
John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote in>news:b85f91pfai2lth3j3f4t5jvqsuv053gnos@4ax.com: >
Yeah, Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com>, well... that's>> just like... your opinion man.>>
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in >>>news:Xns9663583B6331matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>>>
woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in>>>> news:4296b08b.8331689@news.cableone.net: >>>>
Wonko the Sane was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>>>
No way, no how would John McCain get the Republican nomination.>>>>>
Yes...heaven forbid that the best candidate actually win the>>>>>>>nomination...>>>>>
If that weasel is the best the Republican party can do, they>>>>>>deserve to lose.>>>>>
If the Republican Party is unable to see that he's the best>>>>> candidate, then they deserve to lose.>>>>
Please tell me how John McCain is the best Republican candidate for>>>> 2008. >>>
Because he would win.>>>
In a landslide.>>>
HTH.>>
Not a snowball's chance in hell.>
You live in strange, twisted world, dude.>
Ah, for the days when the republicans nominated moderate war hero >statesmen.
So you think McCain will be our next President?
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com> wrote in news:Xns9663A71516894idontwan2knowspamsuc@65.32.5.121:
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in> news:Xns966393E2E3DE0matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136: >
Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com> wrote in>> news:Xns966390230EE52idontwan2knowspamsuc@65.32.5.122: >>
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in >>> news:Xns96635C9B46432matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>>>
Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com> wrote in>>>> news:Xns966343D59B169idontwan2knowspamsuc@65.32.5.121: >>>>
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in >>>>> news:Xns9663583B6331matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>>>>>
woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in>>>>>> news:4296b08b.8331689@news.cableone.net: >>>>>>
Wonko the Sane was cut from the Baylor football team for>>>>>>>>saying... >>>>>>>
No way, no how would John McCain get the Republican nomination.>>>>>>>
Yes...heaven forbid that the best candidate actually win the>>>>>>>>>nomination...>>>>>>>
If that weasel is the best the Republican party can do, they>>>>>>>>deserve to lose.>>>>>>>
If the Republican Party is unable to see that he's the best>>>>>>> candidate, then they deserve to lose.>>>>>>
Please tell me how John McCain is the best Republican candidate>>>>>> for 2008. >>>>>
Because he would win.>>>>>
In a landslide.>>>>>
HTH.>>>>
Please explain how you come to that conclusion. >>>
Because as much as you might dislike him, the vast majority of>>> republicans would vote for him. Furthermore, a significant majority>>> of independents would vote for him. And to top it off, many centrist>>> democrats and even those further left who have become disillusioned>>> by their own party's lack of coherence and fortitude would vote for>>> him. >>
I'm not sure the popularity is as rampant in the Republicans for>> McCain as much as independents and democrats.>
Which is why he can't get nominated.
True.
Regardless, if he did, most republicans would vote for him.
Given the choice of a wishy-washy in many issues Republican and a hardcore liberal, of course most would vote for him. But probably many would just stay home...
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Bryan S. Slick was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>[Trent Woodruff woodruffs@cableone.net]
It ended your career and you only got 10%? Now THAT SUCKS. How many>>years did you have in?>>One of my troops just got MEB'd (Medical Evaluation Boarded). They>>decided to kick him out after 17 years. He gets 12%. It pisses me>>off.
I may get MEB'd, myself. I'm told I have a chance at medical retirement >(full retirement pay/benefits), if that happens, as my injuries preclude >staying in (assuming this next surgery doesn't fix them).
I'm not sure how the Army looks at it, so it may well be very different for you. But in the Air Force, you're fucked. We're kicking people out left and right because we have to cut our numbers and they see MEBs as the perfect opportunity to cut out those who can't be worldwide deployable anyway.
Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
Matthew Hennig was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in>>>Wonko the Sane was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...
No way, no how would John McCain get the Republican nomination.
Yes...heaven forbid that the best candidate actually win the>>>>nomination...
If that weasel is the best the Republican party can do, they deserve>>>to lose.
If the Republican Party is unable to see that he's the best candidate,>> then they deserve to lose.
Please tell me how John McCain is the best Republican candidate for 2008.
Are you interested in having a Republican in the White House in 2008? If you are, then he's your only choice. He's the only guy you've got who can and WOULD win it.
Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
John Rogers was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...
So you think McCain will be our next President?
He has about as much chance of being elected President as I do of being declared the Czar of this newsgroup. He pisses off too many people for the Republican heirarchy to allow it.
Which is much to their fault, as far as I'm concerned.
Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
[Trent Woodruff woodruffs@cableone.net] [Sat, 28 May 2005 00:36:28 GMT]
:>Bryan S. Slick was cut from the Baylor football team for saying... :>>[Trent Woodruff woodruffs@cableone.net] : :>>It ended your career and you only got 10%? Now THAT SUCKS. How many :>>years did you have in? :>>One of my troops just got MEB'd (Medical Evaluation Boarded). They :>>decided to kick him out after 17 years. He gets 12%. It pisses me :>>off. : :>I may get MEB'd, myself. I'm told I have a chance at medical retirement :>(full retirement pay/benefits), if that happens, as my injuries preclude :>staying in (assuming this next surgery doesn't fix them). : :I'm not sure how the Army looks at it, so it may well be very :different for you. But in the Air Force, you're fucked. We're :kicking people out left and right because we have to cut our numbers :and they see MEBs as the perfect opportunity to cut out those who :can't be worldwide deployable anyway.
The Army has a much larger force, and came up short recruiting-wise last year.
-- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com
"To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Yeah, Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com>, well... that's just like... your opinion man.
Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com> wrote in >news:Xns9663A71516894idontwan2knowspamsuc@65.32.5.121:>
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in>> news:Xns966393E2E3DE0matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136: >>
Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com> wrote in>>> news:Xns966390230EE52idontwan2knowspamsuc@65.32.5.122: >>>
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in >>>> news:Xns96635C9B46432matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>>>>
Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com> wrote in>>>>> news:Xns966343D59B169idontwan2knowspamsuc@65.32.5.121: >>>>>
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in >>>>>> news:Xns9663583B6331matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>>>>>>
woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in>>>>>>> news:4296b08b.8331689@news.cableone.net: >>>>>>>
Wonko the Sane was cut from the Baylor football team for>>>>>>>>>saying... >>>>>>>>
No way, no how would John McCain get the Republican nomination.>>>>>>>>
Yes...heaven forbid that the best candidate actually win the>>>>>>>>>>nomination...>>>>>>>>
If that weasel is the best the Republican party can do, they>>>>>>>>>deserve to lose.>>>>>>>>
If the Republican Party is unable to see that he's the best>>>>>>>> candidate, then they deserve to lose.>>>>>>>
Please tell me how John McCain is the best Republican candidate>>>>>>> for 2008. >>>>>>
Because he would win.>>>>>>
In a landslide.>>>>>>
HTH.>>>>>
Please explain how you come to that conclusion. >>>>
Because as much as you might dislike him, the vast majority of>>>> republicans would vote for him. Furthermore, a significant majority>>>> of independents would vote for him. And to top it off, many centrist>>>> democrats and even those further left who have become disillusioned>>>> by their own party's lack of coherence and fortitude would vote for>>>> him. >>>
I'm not sure the popularity is as rampant in the Republicans for>>> McCain as much as independents and democrats.>>
Which is why he can't get nominated.>
True.>
Regardless, if he did, most republicans would vote for him. >
Given the choice of a wishy-washy in many issues Republican and a >hardcore liberal, of course most would vote for him. But probably many >would just stay home...
Ed Zachary.
(Hi.)
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Yeah, Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com>, well... that's just like... your opinion man.
John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote in >news:3i6f91ppo7d86rs265ir0hsvv7b21sbgps@4ax.com:>
Yeah, Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com>, well... that's>> just like... your opinion man.>>
John Rogers <tiger7_88@yahoo.com> wrote in>>>news:b85f91pfai2lth3j3f4t5jvqsuv053gnos@4ax.com: >>>
Yeah, Alan Mundy <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com>, well... >that's>>>> just like... your opinion man.>>>>
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in >>>>>news:Xns9663583B6331matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>>>>>
woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in>>>>>> news:4296b08b.8331689@news.cableone.net: >>>>>>
Wonko the Sane was cut from the Baylor football team for >saying...>>>>>>>
No way, no how would John McCain get the Republican nomination.>>>>>>>
Yes...heaven forbid that the best candidate actually win the>>>>>>>>>nomination...>>>>>>>
If that weasel is the best the Republican party can do, they>>>>>>>>deserve to lose.>>>>>>>
If the Republican Party is unable to see that he's the best>>>>>>> candidate, then they deserve to lose.>>>>>>
Please tell me how John McCain is the best Republican candidate >for>>>>>> 2008. >>>>>
Because he would win.>>>>>
In a landslide.>>>>>
HTH.>>>>
Not a snowball's chance in hell.>>>
You live in strange, twisted world, dude.>>>
Ah, for the days when the republicans nominated moderate war hero >>>statesmen.>>
So you think McCain will be our next President?>
Not a snowball's chance in hell.>
He's too much of a maverick to get the nomination.>
If he did, he'd win in a landslide.
Then how come it's strange and twisted if you agree with my statement? Are you some kind of weerdo?
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Yeah, woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff), well... that's just like... your opinion man.
Bryan S. Slick was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>[Trent Woodruff woodruffs@cableone.net] >
It ended your career and you only got 10%? Now THAT SUCKS. How many>>>years did you have in?>>>One of my troops just got MEB'd (Medical Evaluation Boarded). They>>>decided to kick him out after 17 years. He gets 12%. It pisses me>>>off.>
I may get MEB'd, myself. I'm told I have a chance at medical retirement >>(full retirement pay/benefits), if that happens, as my injuries preclude >>staying in (assuming this next surgery doesn't fix them).>
I'm not sure how the Army looks at it, so it may well be very>different for you. But in the Air Force, you're fucked. We're>kicking people out left and right because we have to cut our numbers>and they see MEBs as the perfect opportunity to cut out those who>can't be worldwide deployable anyway.
I was MEB'ed in 1992, which was another one of those looking-for-any-reason-possible periods.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Bryan S. Slick was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>[Trent Woodruff woodruffs@cableone.net] >>>Bryan S. Slick was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>>[Trent Woodruff woodruffs@cableone.net]
It ended your career and you only got 10%? Now THAT SUCKS. How many>>>>years did you have in?>>>>One of my troops just got MEB'd (Medical Evaluation Boarded). They>>>>decided to kick him out after 17 years. He gets 12%. It pisses me>>>>off.
I may get MEB'd, myself. I'm told I have a chance at medical retirement >>>(full retirement pay/benefits), if that happens, as my injuries preclude >>>staying in (assuming this next surgery doesn't fix them).
I'm not sure how the Army looks at it, so it may well be very>>different for you. But in the Air Force, you're fucked. We're>>kicking people out left and right because we have to cut our numbers>>and they see MEBs as the perfect opportunity to cut out those who>>can't be worldwide deployable anyway.
The Army has a much larger force, and came up short recruiting-wise last >year.
That's what I suspected, which definitely works in your favor here.
Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in news:4297bd24.7067907@news.cableone.net:
Matthew Hennig was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in>>>>Wonko the Sane was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>
No way, no how would John McCain get the Republican nomination.>
Yes...heaven forbid that the best candidate actually win the>>>>>nomination...>
If that weasel is the best the Republican party can do, they>>>>deserve to lose.>
If the Republican Party is unable to see that he's the best>>> candidate, then they deserve to lose.>
Please tell me how John McCain is the best Republican candidate for>>2008. >
Are you interested in having a Republican in the White House in 2008?> If you are, then he's your only choice. He's the only guy you've got> who can and WOULD win it.
Well 2008 is a few years away, so the field is still pretty wide open. And honestly I don't think that John McCain could win (or should win either).
MH
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"Trent Woodruff" <woodruffs@cableone.net> wrote in message news:4297bd24.7067907@news.cableone.net...> >Matthew Hennig was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...> >>woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in> >>>Wonko the Sane was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>
No way, no how would John McCain get the Republican nomination.>
Yes...heaven forbid that the best candidate actually win the> >>>>nomination...>
If that weasel is the best the Republican party can do, they deserve> >>>to lose.>
If the Republican Party is unable to see that he's the best candidate,> >> then they deserve to lose.>
Please tell me how John McCain is the best Republican candidate for 2008.>
Are you interested in having a Republican in the White House in 2008?> If you are, then he's your only choice. He's the only guy you've got> who can and WOULD win it.
Well, I definitely would not give up my principles and vote for a liberal just because he runs as a Conservative.
Having "one of the Keating Five" McCain as the Republican choice is akin to having no vote.
Heiman
Trent> Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger>
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a
woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in news:4297bd24.7067907@news.cableone.net:
Matthew Hennig was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in>>>>Wonko the Sane was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>
No way, no how would John McCain get the Republican nomination.>
Yes...heaven forbid that the best candidate actually win the>>>>>nomination...>
If that weasel is the best the Republican party can do, they>>>>deserve to lose.>
If the Republican Party is unable to see that he's the best>>> candidate, then they deserve to lose.>
Please tell me how John McCain is the best Republican candidate for>>2008. >
Are you interested in having a Republican in the White House in 2008?> If you are, then he's your only choice. He's the only guy you've got> who can and WOULD win it.
If the democrats nominate Hilary, Slick's cat could win as the republican nominee.
"Alan Mundy" <idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns96644A566C06Fidontwan2knowspamsuc@65.32.5.122...> woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in> news:4297bd24.7067907@news.cableone.net:>
Matthew Hennig was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...> >>>woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in> >>>>Wonko the Sane was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...> >
No way, no how would John McCain get the Republican nomination.> >
Yes...heaven forbid that the best candidate actually win the> >>>>>nomination...> >
If that weasel is the best the Republican party can do, they> >>>>deserve to lose.> >
If the Republican Party is unable to see that he's the best> >>> candidate, then they deserve to lose.> >
Please tell me how John McCain is the best Republican candidate for> >>2008.> >
Are you interested in having a Republican in the White House in 2008?> > If you are, then he's your only choice. He's the only guy you've got> > who can and WOULD win it.>
If the democrats nominate Hilary, Slick's cat could win as the republican> nominee.
And to think that 9% of these polled morons think that Hitlery is a Conservative (30% moderate, 54% liberal). The media and her campaign sure now how to sell their spin.
She may not even have to use her "you're a sexist if you don't vote for her" ace in the hole campaign. We is doomed!!!
Yeah, OrangeDood <no_this_isnt@my_email.com>, well... that's just like... your opinion man.
If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another>five minutes, "Glen Heiman" <Dakota@cox.net>! >
And to think that 9% of these polled morons think that Hillary>> is a Conservative (30% moderate, 54% liberal). The media and>> her campaign sure now how to sell their spin.>
Considering that's pretty much exactly how Bush just got elected >(see: Rove, Karl), it would be poetic justice.
So you're telling me you don't like Dubya because he's so liberal?
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
