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Roger's Sith chat
John Rogers 23 May 2005 03:44:56
	I was underwhelmed. Not that it wasn't the best of the latest trilogy... it was. And the special effects were (again) worth the price of the matinee ticket. But the "movie" struck me as being more of a bunch of disjointed scenes thrown together to fulfill an obligation rather than a story that "flowed". I bet if Lucas decided to make Episodes 7, 8, and 9, they would be MUCH better movies than 1, 2, or 3. Potentially even better than 4, 5, or 6. I think the potential to create a "story" would be greater without the sense of obligation that (to me) pervaded 1, 2, and 3. JMCFO. John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta "Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother." (Captain Jack Aubrey, R.N. "The Ionian Mission)
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Bryan S . Slick 23 May 2005 04:22:19 [ permanent link ]
	[John Rogers tiger7_88@yahoo.com] [Sun, 22 May 2005 19:44:56 -0400] :I bet if Lucas decided to make Episodes 7, 8, and 9, they would be :MUCH better movies than 1, 2, or 3. Potentially even better than 4, 5, :or 6. I think the potential to create a "story" would be greater :without the sense of obligation that (to me) pervaded 1, 2, and 3. Who would you pick to play Thrawn? -- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com "To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
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Alan Mundy 23 May 2005 05:40:25 [ permanent link ]
	Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie@yahoo.cem> wrote in news:MPG.1cfaec459dfc47a89896b4@news-40.giganews.com: [John Rogers tiger7_88@yahoo.com] > [Sun, 22 May 2005 19:44:56 -0400]> :I bet if Lucas decided to make Episodes 7, 8, and 9, they would be>:MUCH better movies than 1, 2, or 3. Potentially even better than 4, 5,>:or 6. I think the potential to create a "story" would be greater>:without the sense of obligation that (to me) pervaded 1, 2, and 3.> Who would you pick to play Thrawn?> There will be no 7,8, or 9 until Lucas's kids get a hold of the rights and need some more billions. There's too much expanded universe stuff for Lucas to tell his own story without going a hundred or so years beyond ANH, and he sure as hell isn't interested in making movies based on somebody else's story. Lucas has at least co-written every movie he has ever produced or directed, and that's no accident. -- Alan Mundy
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John Rogers 23 May 2005 06:33:56 [ permanent link ]
	Yeah, Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie@yahoo.cem>, well... that's just like... your opinion man. [John Rogers tiger7_88@yahoo.com] >[Sun, 22 May 2005 19:44:56 -0400]> :I bet if Lucas decided to make Episodes 7, 8, and 9, they would be>:MUCH better movies than 1, 2, or 3. Potentially even better than 4, 5,>:or 6. I think the potential to create a "story" would be greater>:without the sense of obligation that (to me) pervaded 1, 2, and 3.> Who would you pick to play Thrawn? I have no idea who that is, you Star Wars geek. John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta "Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother." (Captain Jack Aubrey, R.N. "The Ionian Mission)
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Bryan S . Slick 23 May 2005 06:37:50 [ permanent link ]
	[Alan Mundy idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com] [Mon, 23 May 2005 01:40:25 GMT] :Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie@yahoo.cem> wrote in :news:MPG.1cfaec459dfc47a89896b4@news-40.giganews.com: : :> [John Rogers tiger7_88@yahoo.com] :> [Sun, 22 May 2005 19:44:56 -0400] :> :>:I bet if Lucas decided to make Episodes 7, 8, and 9, they would be :>:MUCH better movies than 1, 2, or 3. Potentially even better than 4, 5, :>:or 6. I think the potential to create a "story" would be greater :>:without the sense of obligation that (to me) pervaded 1, 2, and 3. :> :> Who would you pick to play Thrawn? :> : :There will be no 7,8, or 9 until Lucas's kids get a hold of the rights and :need some more billions. : :There's too much expanded universe stuff for Lucas to tell his own story :without going a hundred or so years beyond ANH, and he sure as hell isn't :interested in making movies based on somebody else's story. : :Lucas has at least co-written every movie he has ever produced or directed, :and that's no accident. : :-- :Alan Mundy Agree on all points. I suspect he could make 7-8-9, but he has stated on numerous occasions that he has no intention of doing so. The main reason he's given is that it would take another decade of his life, and he doesn't want his last three films to be Star Wars films. I don't doubt that he'd likely have to go against (or work around) some of the EU stuff plays a part in the decision to stop at six movies. Then again, supposedly, he has blessed-off on nearly all of the EU novels, so it might be that they match his vision for the Galaxy Far Far Away post-ROTJ. -- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com "To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
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James Schrumpf 23 May 2005 06:57:53 [ permanent link ]
	How do you prefer your martini, Mr. Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie@yahoo.cem>? Shaken, or stirred? [Alan Mundy idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com] > [Mon, 23 May 2005 01:40:25 GMT]> :Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie@yahoo.cem> wrote in >:news:MPG.1cfaec459dfc47a89896b4@news-40.giganews.com:>:>:> [John Rogers tiger7_88@yahoo.com] >:> [Sun, 22 May 2005 19:44:56 -0400]>:> >:>:I bet if Lucas decided to make Episodes 7, 8, and 9, they would be>:>:MUCH better movies than 1, 2, or 3. Potentially even better than 4,>:>:5, or 6. I think the potential to create a "story" would be greater>:>:without the sense of obligation that (to me) pervaded 1, 2, and 3.>:> >:> Who would you pick to play Thrawn?>:> >:>:There will be no 7,8, or 9 until Lucas's kids get a hold of the rights>:and need some more billions.>:>:There's too much expanded universe stuff for Lucas to tell his own>:story without going a hundred or so years beyond ANH, and he sure as>:hell isn't interested in making movies based on somebody else's story.>:>:Lucas has at least co-written every movie he has ever produced or>:directed, and that's no accident.>:>:-->:Alan Mundy> Agree on all points. I suspect he could make 7-8-9, but he has> stated on numerous occasions that he has no intention of doing so. > The main reason he's given is that it would take another decade of his> life, and he doesn't want his last three films to be Star Wars films.> I don't doubt that he'd likely have to go against (or work around)> some of the EU stuff plays a part in the decision to stop at six> movies. Then again, supposedly, he has blessed-off on nearly all of> the EU novels, so it might be that they match his vision for the> Galaxy Far Far Away post-ROTJ.> Lucas needs to steal a page from the "Star Trek" universe and farm out the other three movies. It's not like Gene Roddenberry directed every single ST episode/movie ever done. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ James Schrumpf http://www.hilltopper.net Well, look. I mean, is he gonna be able to chase us? Cause if I woke up lookin' like that, I would just run towards the nearest living thing and kill it. -- Master Shake
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Bryan S . Slick 23 May 2005 07:14:07 [ permanent link ]
	[James Schrumpf jaspammenotschrumpf@adelphia.nospamnet] [Sun, 22 May 2005 21:57:53 -0500] :Lucas needs to steal a page from the "Star Trek" universe and farm out :the other three movies. It's not like Gene Roddenberry directed every :single ST episode/movie ever done. I wouldn't be surprised if he did just that. Spielberg? Peter Jackson? -- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com "To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
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Alan Mundy 23 May 2005 07:49:56 [ permanent link ]
	deemsbill@aol.com wrote in news:1116817443.339878.153350 @g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: Bryan S. Slick wrote:>> [Alan Mundy idontwan2knowspamsucks@hotmail.com]>> [Mon, 23 May 2005 01:40:25 GMT]>> :Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie@yahoo.cem> wrote in>> :news:MPG.1cfaec459dfc47a89896b4@news-40.giganews.com:>> :>> :> [John Rogers tiger7_88@yahoo.com]>> :> [Sun, 22 May 2005 19:44:56 -0400]>> :>>> :>:I bet if Lucas decided to make Episodes 7, 8, and 9, they would be>> :>:MUCH better movies than 1, 2, or 3. Potentially even better than> 4, 5,>> :>:or 6. I think the potential to create a "story" would be greater>> :>:without the sense of obligation that (to me) pervaded 1, 2, and 3.>> :>>> :> Who would you pick to play Thrawn?>> :>>> :>> :There will be no 7,8, or 9 until Lucas's kids get a hold of the> rights and>> :need some more billions.>> :>> :There's too much expanded universe stuff for Lucas to tell his own> story>> :without going a hundred or so years beyond ANH, and he sure as hell> isn't>> :interested in making movies based on somebody else's story.>> :>> :Lucas has at least co-written every movie he has ever produced or> directed,>> :and that's no accident.>> :>> :-->> :Alan Mundy>> Agree on all points. I suspect he could make 7-8-9, but he has> stated>> on numerous occasions that he has no intention of doing so. The main> reason he's given is that it would take another decade of his life,> and>> he doesn't want his last three films to be Star Wars films.>> I don't doubt that he'd likely have to go against (or work around)> some>> of the EU stuff plays a part in the decision to stop at six movies.>> Then again, supposedly, he has blessed-off on nearly all of the EU>> novels, so it might be that they match his vision for the Galaxy Far> Far>> Away post-ROTJ.>> -->> Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com>> "To those who have fought for it,>> freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."> I'm not sure. There was a lot of Star Trek stuff put out between and the first movie. They pretty much ignored all of it. And then the> series came and they ignored movie stuff unless it was convenient. Not> saying Lucas would do that, but..... The franchises are totally different in the way they treat the "outside" stuff. In Trek, only the shows and movies are "canon"(and with Enterprise they even threw that out the window), and all the books, video games, etc. etc. have no impact on future shows, or on other outside material. The Star Wars franchise uses an "expanded universe" concept. Every single book, tv show, video game, etc. is "true" and continues to be true for every subsequent book or whatever. LucasArts, and in some cases even George Lucas himself, oversee the production of all of this stuff to make sure it all gybes with the movies, previously written EU stuff and Lucas's larger notions of how the Star Wars universe works. It's disjointed at times when different writers get ahold of the same characters, and most of it is just pulp fiction, but some of it is really good stuff. True, Lucas could just tell them all to go to hell, and he's certainly stubborn enough to do it if he felt motivated to...I just don't see any desire on his part. He's got another Indiana Jones movie to write and produce, and has several "indie" type projects he wants to do. -- Alan Mundy
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Alan Mundy 23 May 2005 07:52:44 [ permanent link ]
	Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie@yahoo.cem> wrote in news:MPG.1cfb14879bb9ac3e9896c4@news-40.giganews.com: [James Schrumpf jaspammenotschrumpf@adelphia.nospamnet] > [Sun, 22 May 2005 21:57:53 -0500]> :Lucas needs to steal a page from the "Star Trek" universe and farm out >:the other three movies. It's not like Gene Roddenberry directed every >:single ST episode/movie ever done.> I wouldn't be surprised if he did just that.> Spielberg?> Peter Jackson?> He offered Spielberg and Ron Howard each one of the prequel movies. They both said no and that he was the only one to do them. -- Alan Mundy
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Marty McMahone 23 May 2005 08:35:41 [ permanent link ]
	"James Schrumpf" <jaspammenotschrumpf@adelphia.nospamnet> wrote in message news:Xns965EE9A626354jaschrumpfadelphiane@216.196.97.142...> Lucas needs to steal a page from the "Star Trek" universe and farm out> the other three movies. It's not like Gene Roddenberry directed every> single ST episode/movie ever done. I remember an article a long time ago (right after SW came out) where Lucas said he was going to turn the other movies over to others and then come back and do the final one (I still think he said #9 at the time, though he now claims he never intended more than 6) himself and show up all the others. Marty
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Bryan S . Slick 23 May 2005 08:41:54 [ permanent link ]
	[marty mcmahone mmcmahome1@hot.rr.com] [Mon, 23 May 2005 04:35:41 GMT] : :"James Schrumpf" <jaspammenotschrumpf@adelphia.nospamnet> wrote in message :news:Xns965EE9A626354jaschrumpfadelphiane@216.196.97.142... :> :> Lucas needs to steal a page from the "Star Trek" universe and farm out :> the other three movies. It's not like Gene Roddenberry directed every :> single ST episode/movie ever done. : :I remember an article a long time ago (right after SW came out) where Lucas :said he was going to turn the other movies over to others and then come back :and do the final one (I still think he said #9 at the time, though he now :claims he never intended more than 6) himself and show up all the others. : :Marty If Peter Jackson is offered VII and VIII, I think that Lucas would be hard-pressed to show him up with IX. -- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com "To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
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