Re: kenny chesney, the dixie chicks, and toby keith
Jim Brown 18 May 2005 21:38:10
<mianderson@students.mcg.edu> wrote in message news:1116427600.037991.260870@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...> I was flipping channels last night and saw part of some country music> awards show. Saw toby keith do something pretaped in iraq that was> simply dreadful. I figured he was bad, but hadn't really been exposed> to his music before since I'm not a country fan. But he takes> "completely talentless" to another level. He has to be the ashley> simpson of country music.>
Then I watched Kenny Chesney(sp?) win the last award of the night and> I'm wondering "where's rene?". She must not be there. oh well, I'm> sure he will mention her in his speech. After all, you just married> the woman a week or two ago....seems like if she can't go to these kind> of things with you you would at least say hey during your moment on the> stage. But nothing. Weird.....that relationship will be over in 6/7> months, if it lasts that long.>
So this morning I go over to a girl's house who I know to be sort of a> fan of all types of music. I'm sure she's got some stuff from each.> Since the toby keith/dixie chicks thing got a lot of attention a few> years ago, I'd give a listen to each of their music. I expected them> both to suck.>
Surprisingly, the dixie chicks were.....actually not bad to listen to.> I listened to what I was told were the big hits from their first few> albums. Catchy. Good melodies. I liked the music. Best country(or> whatever genre you want to call it) I've ever heard.>
Then came Toby Keith. Wow. Just wow. The people who produced those> records should be banned from the industry. Whoever writes the music> and lyrics should as well(does Keith himself?). As for the vocals,> they are just as bad as everything else. A train wreck all the way> around.>
The fact that country music fans would pick someone who has absolutely> no talent over a group that is somewhat talented over political stuff> is weird.>
Yeah, kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy), well... that's just like... your opinion man.
2. Toby Keith still sucks for ragging on> the Dixie Chicks.
Yeah... just where the hell does HE get off for having an opinion?
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Damon Scott Hynes 20 May 2005 07:54:07 [ permanent link ]
Gotta admire this: The fact that you slagged Toby Keith,>
card-carrying>
Democrat.>
If toby keith is a registered democrat, it's really of no consequence.> I tend to put more emphasis on who you actually vote for. Not only did> he uquestionably vote for bush, he was an outspoken supporter who. He> can say he's a registered Bolshevik for all I care because actions> speak loudest.
Again, I gotta give ya props for being honest in this regard.
: You're just wrong here. This song was written the summer/fall :before we attacked Iraq. It IS about 9/11 and Afghanistan. A little :checking on dates would tell you this.
[Bryan S. Slick] [Fri, 20 May 2005 18:10:35 -0400]
Bill Deems] 20 May 2005 14:34:40 -0700] : :: You're just wrong here. This song was written the summer/fall ::before we attacked Iraq. It IS about 9/11 and Afghanistan. A little ::checking on dates would tell you this. : :Interesting blog bit: : :http://www.oobleck.com/tollbooth/archives/2005_05.html
Yeah, Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie@yahoo.cem>, well... that's just like... your opinion man.
[Bryan S. Slick] >[Fri, 20 May 2005 18:10:35 -0400]>
Bill Deems] >:[20 May 2005 14:34:40 -0700]>:>:: You're just wrong here. This song was written the summer/fall>::before we attacked Iraq. It IS about 9/11 and Afghanistan. A little>::checking on dates would tell you this.>:>:Interesting blog bit:>:>:http://www.oobleck.com/tollbooth/archives/2005_05.html>
Jingoism at it's most horriblest. How can you soldiers sleep at night? Don't you know it's YOUR kind of blind, jingoistic patriotism that makes the rest of the world hate us? Have you no shame?
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
:Jingoism at it's most horriblest. How can you soldiers sleep at night? on't you know it's YOUR kind of blind, jingoistic patriotism that :makes the rest of the world hate us? Have you no shame?
Obviously, I have no shame, else I wouldn't wear the flag of the most shameful, imperialistic, etc, blah blah blah blah..
Heh!
-- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com
"To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
: Both this song and Darryl Worley's "Do You Remember" were about 9/11 :and Afghanistan. Toby's song was released quite a bit before, but for :most people who don't follow country music, the first they heard about :it was when the whole Dixie Chicks thing came up.
"Have You Forgotten?", by the way.
-- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com
"To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Damon Scott Hynes 21 May 2005 08:29:51 [ permanent link ]
Jingoism at it's most horriblest. How can you soldiers sleep at night?> Don't you know it's YOUR kind of blind, jingoistic patriotism that> makes the rest of the world hate us? Have you no shame?
Jesus, man--you thought about a plastic surgeon for that tongue in your cheek? LOL -- Damon Scott Hynes
Jingoism at it's most horriblest. How can you soldiers sleep at>> night? Don't you know it's YOUR kind of blind, jingoistic patriotism>> that makes the rest of the world hate us? Have you no shame?>
Obviously, I have no shame, else I wouldn't wear the flag of the most> shameful, imperialistic, etc, blah blah blah blah..>
Heh!
You guys are cracking me up. (Good article, Bryan!)
~~Geri~~ (Sanctimonious Cornhusker Beeyotch)
"We all have times when we must choose between the grasshopper and the scorpion."
: Well, as Rogers said, he wrote this before Iraq/Shock and Awe, so he :actually wasn't specifically talking about Iraq. But the second 911 :happened, Saddam was an instant target, so I won't say Iraq wasn't at least :an afterthought in there, just not this disast^^^^ war specifically. But his :next album, released after Shock and Awe, was called Shock Ya All, which I :admit to finding pretty funny.
Shock'N Y'all
-- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com
"To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie@yahoo.cem> laid this on me:
[Sean S] > [Sat, 21 May 2005 05:31:45 -0500]>
: Well, as Rogers said, he wrote this before Iraq/Shock and Awe,>: so he >:actually wasn't specifically talking about Iraq. But the second 911 >:happened, Saddam was an instant target, so I won't say Iraq wasn't at>:least an afterthought in there, just not this disast^^^^ war>:specifically. But his next album, released after Shock and Awe, was>:called Shock Ya All, which I admit to finding pretty funny. >
Shock'N Y'all
Thank you - my bad. Of course, I also just posted that I wouldn't ever publish something without researching it a little. I am a liar and a fraud.
Sean -- There is an old saying that if a million monkeys typed on a million keyboards for a million years, eventually all the works of Shakespeare would be produced. Now, thanks to Usenet, we know this is not true.
<mianderson@students.mcg.edu> wrote in message news:1116689657.050655.312680@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...>
Damon Scott Hynes wrote:> >
I don't mean to pick on NPR, but even if I were a stone lefty hippie> I> > couldn't stand listening to NPR. I think the left is screwed in this>
regard, because NPR is so dry and attempts to come up with a lefty> > Linbaugh/Hannity/O'Reilly have been underwhelming.>
I don't agree with this at all. A lot of the more popular npr shows> don't even have any political tilt whatsoever. Some of my favorites> are the car talk show and their quiz show.>
Do more liberals listen to NPR than conservatives? Sure. One reason> for that is all the conservatives are tuned into Limbaugh/Hannity.> Another reason, and I'm going to be blunt here, is that liberals AS A> GROUP are much more intelligent than conservatives. As a group they> are much better educated and this leads to wanting radio programs that> are witty, insightful, and interesting. The perentage of people with> graduate and professional degrees listening to npr is unquestionably> much higher than those listening to Limbaugh/Hannity. Hence their> attraction to npr.
Your arrogance is showing yet again. So would you say that people who listen to NPR also do not frequent Wal mart?
Another thing, a good deal of NPR's best programming is geared towards> people who actually can't have their radio on from 9am to 6pm nonstop> as so many conservatives apparently do with Rush and Hannity. Rush> airs nationally on most affiliates from 12-3 right? Yet he has> what....15 million listeners a day(mostly conservative)? Obviously> most of the people listening to the show are either:>
1) unemployed> 2) self employed in a non service field> 3) have the kind of employment where they can have their radio on while> they work and listen to a talk show>
Even if I was a huge rush fan, it would be impossible for me to listen> to him because having the radio on then isn't an option. But my npr> affiliate puts a lot of their best stuff on early in the morning as I'm> getting ready or on the weekends. They seem to understand that their> audience actually has work to do.
Perhaps when you are smart enuf to be your own boss, you will get to listen to what you want, when you want.
Country fans tolerated them (I was waiting for the other boot to drop>
once they started with covering bad Fleetwood Mac songs. And making> a> > brutal acid flashback video of same.) Fans of pop music loved them> and> > FUTK didn't change their minds.>
C'mon, in listening to many different pop radio channels during their> peak, I didn't hear the dixie chicks. There were several country> musicians with songs that went mainstream during this period(the leann> womack song, faith hill songs just to name a few), but the dixie chicks> hits really stayed on country music stations. I didn't hear "wide open> spaces" on top 40 radio. I know radio is just one part of the picture,> but when I caught a glimpse of a few of their concerts on cmt, the> audience was clearly country. You could just tell. These weren't> people who went to a DC concert one week and Beck the next. They were> going to DC one week and then Toby Keith or Travis Tritt the next.>
There isn't any question in my mind that country music fans made them> rich and famous. That's not to say that they didn't have any pop fans> who bought their records, but they were country musicians who knew> where $$ and fame was coming from.>
No I never said that.> >
Well, what? How does he oversimplify?> >
How or why? Being racist would be a why and I doubt that's the case.> I don't know for sure why he does it. My guess is that his marketers> told him it would be a good sell(and it is with country music fans).>
Damon Scott Hynes 21 May 2005 22:49:43 [ permanent link ]
Um, dude -- Noah's Ark was never actually built, you know.
BLASPHEME ALERT!!!111!!!
-- Damon Scott Hynes
After the 2006 midterms, when the Dems have 25 Senate seats, 75 in the house, and Hillary is in Plumpers And Big Women magazine, wonder how many of the Jackass Party will still think Dean-o is The Answer? __ http://www.opensecrets.us/
