The Democrats are so desperate for an issue Dean will try anything. By all means, bring it on. LOL.
-- "if federal judges have the final word over its meaning, the Constitution would be a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please".
You object to condemning the GOP for moral grandstanding?>> What's wrong for you?>
It ain't grandstanding if they believe it, which they did.>
I thought the objection of the Democrats was the GOP using>the Schiavo case for political gain. Obviously that's not>it, as it appears the Democrats are in fact going to do that.
NUh UH!!!
BTW most political Arguments can be broken down to petty playground stuff from 2nd or third grade...
-- "People who read the tabloids deserve to be lied to" - Jerry Seinfeld "Education is the progressive discovery of our own Ignorance" - Will Durant "We are drowning in information, while starving for wisdom." - E.O. Wilson "the glass is not only half full the first half was delicious" --Me To Reply: Scrape off the end bits...
You object to condemning the GOP for moral grandstanding? What's wrong > for you?
You know, the whole outcry about the "GOP talking points memo" that ended up being from just a low-level staffer for a freshman senator... Where's the outcry when the DNC Chairman publically states that Schiavo will be used for political gain?
I'm expecting all the lefties that went after the Republicans to start going after Dean right about now...
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
You object to condemning the GOP for moral grandstanding? What's wrong >>for you?>
You know, the whole outcry about the "GOP talking points memo" that ended > up being from just a low-level staffer for a freshman senator... Where's > the outcry when the DNC Chairman publically states that Schiavo will be > used for political gain?
The rabid, hypocritical, moralistic, intrusive GOP response.
It won't help saying that. Anyone capable of the GOP's rabid, hypocritical moralistic intrusive response is probably beyond help.
You object to condemning the GOP for moral grandstanding? What's>>>wrong for you?>>
You know, the whole outcry about the "GOP talking points memo" that>> ended up being from just a low-level staffer for a freshman>> senator... Where's the outcry when the DNC Chairman publically>> states that Schiavo will be used for political gain?>
The rabid, hypocritical, moralistic, intrusive GOP response.>
It won't help saying that. Anyone capable of the GOP's rabid, > hypocritical moralistic intrusive response is probably beyond help.>
Hope you get the care you need.
Why not just be honest and admit that your outcry against the Republicans for claiming it all for political gain (even though it was a memo from a freshman senator's office done without his knowledge) should be even more of an outcry against the Democrats when their chairman goes on record to using it for political gain?
It's about the hypocricy.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
You object to condemning the GOP for moral grandstanding? What's>>>>wrong for you?>>>
You know, the whole outcry about the "GOP talking points memo" that>>>ended up being from just a low-level staffer for a freshman>>>senator... Where's the outcry when the DNC Chairman publically>>>states that Schiavo will be used for political gain?>>
The rabid, hypocritical, moralistic, intrusive GOP response.>>
It won't help saying that. Anyone capable of the GOP's rabid, >>hypocritical moralistic intrusive response is probably beyond help.>>
Hope you get the care you need.>
Why not just be honest and admit that your outcry against the Republicans > for claiming it all for political gain (even though it was a memo from a > freshman senator's office done without his knowledge) should be even more > of an outcry against the Democrats when their chairman goes on record to > using it for political gain?>
It's about the hypocricy.
The memo was irrelevant. The Republicans were moralistic, hypocritical, opportunsitc, intrusive, sanctimonious jerks without it. What difference did the memo make? Nothing. Republicans were hell-bent to be holier-than-thou without it.
Matthew Hennig 18 April 2005 03:14:27 [ permanent link ]
"Tom Enright" <freddy_hayek@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1113765429.398376.162520@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Matthew Hennig I take one item from every home I break into -- I think> that's fair:>
Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in>> news:87f41$4262abb3$8b373efe$31436@ALLTEL.NET:>> > The rabid, hypocritical, moralistic, intrusive GOP response.>> >
It won't help saying that. Anyone capable of the GOP's rabid,>> > hypocritical moralistic intrusive response is probably beyond help.>> >
Hope you get the care you need.>>
Why not just be honest and admit that your outcry against the>> Republicans for claiming it all for political gain (even though>> it was a memo from a freshman senator's office done without his>> knowledge) should be even more of an outcry against the>> Democrats when their chairman goes on record to using it for>> political gain?>>
It's about the hypocricy.>
What exactly was Bush and Co. trying to gain politically?
I think they did it because they truly believed in what they were doing in trying to prevent her feeding tubes from being removed.
Was the religious right considering throwing their weight> behind the Democrats?
The worst that happens is they don't go to the polls and we get a Dem sneaking in...
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
You object to condemning the GOP for moral grandstanding? What's>>>>>wrong for you?>>>>
You know, the whole outcry about the "GOP talking points memo" that>>>>ended up being from just a low-level staffer for a freshman>>>>senator... Where's the outcry when the DNC Chairman publically>>>>states that Schiavo will be used for political gain?>>>
The rabid, hypocritical, moralistic, intrusive GOP response.>>>
It won't help saying that. Anyone capable of the GOP's rabid, >>>hypocritical moralistic intrusive response is probably beyond help.>>>
Hope you get the care you need.>>
Why not just be honest and admit that your outcry against the>> Republicans for claiming it all for political gain (even though it>> was a memo from a freshman senator's office done without his>> knowledge) should be even more of an outcry against the Democrats>> when their chairman goes on record to using it for political gain?>>
It's about the hypocricy.>
The memo was irrelevant. The Republicans were moralistic,> hypocritical, opportunsitc, intrusive, sanctimonious jerks without it.> What difference did the memo make? Nothing. Republicans were hell-bent> to be holier-than-thou without it.
But I seem to remember all the lefties all up in arms about the supposed memo making it a GOP political move.
Yes, it's definitely about the hypocrisy.
Yes, because these lefties aren't condemning Dean for making it political...
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Hansel Grettle 18 April 2005 03:18:34 [ permanent link ]
Matthew Hennig wrote:
"Tom Enright" <freddy_hayek@yahoo.com> wrote in> news:1113765429.398376.162520@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:>
Matthew Hennig I take one item from every home I break into -- I think>> that's fair:>>
Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in>>> news:87f41$4262abb3$8b373efe$31436@ALLTEL.NET:>>> > The rabid, hypocritical, moralistic, intrusive GOP response.>>> >
It won't help saying that. Anyone capable of the GOP's rabid,>>> > hypocritical moralistic intrusive response is probably beyond help.>>> >
Hope you get the care you need.>>>
Why not just be honest and admit that your outcry against the>>> Republicans for claiming it all for political gain (even though>>> it was a memo from a freshman senator's office done without his>>> knowledge) should be even more of an outcry against the>>> Democrats when their chairman goes on record to using it for>>> political gain?>>>
It's about the hypocricy.>>
What exactly was Bush and Co. trying to gain politically?>
I think they did it because they truly believed in what they were doing> in trying to prevent her feeding tubes from being removed.>
Was the religious right considering throwing their weight>> behind the Democrats?>
The worst that happens is they don't go to the polls and we get a Dem> sneaking in...>
Matthew Hennig 18 April 2005 03:33:38 [ permanent link ]
Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in news:980d4$4262f17e$8b373efe$29511@ALLTEL.NET:
Matthew Hennig wrote:>> Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in>
But I seem to remember all the lefties all up in arms about the>> supposed memo making it a GOP political move. >
A question of proof.>
Yes, it's definitely about the hypocrisy.>>
Yes, because these lefties aren't condemning Dean for making it >> political...>>
Dean isn't making it political. It became political when Bush, DeLay> and Frist decided to butt in. You're simply trying to save face.>
Well, hahahahah. It isn't working.
I thought the lefties were saying not to make it political, but here's Dean taking the low road... There's no trying to save face because there's nothing to try and save face from.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Trent Woodruff 18 April 2005 05:09:15 [ permanent link ]
Matthew Hennig was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in news:664e2$426260d3$8b373efe>>> Matthew Hennig wrote:
You object to condemning the GOP for moral grandstanding? What's wrong >> for you?
You know, the whole outcry about the "GOP talking points memo" that ended >up being from just a low-level staffer for a freshman senator... Where's >the outcry when the DNC Chairman publically states that Schiavo will be >used for political gain?>I'm expecting all the lefties that went after the Republicans to start >going after Dean right about now...
Clearly, expecting honesty from them is expecting far too much.
Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
Matthew Hennig 18 April 2005 05:23:59 [ permanent link ]
woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) wrote in news:42630899.1115687@news.cableone.net:
Matthew Hennig was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in>>>news:664e2$426260d3$8b373efe >>>> Matthew Hennig wrote:>
You object to condemning the GOP for moral grandstanding? What's>>> wrong for you?>
You know, the whole outcry about the "GOP talking points memo" that>>ended up being from just a low-level staffer for a freshman senator...>> Where's the outcry when the DNC Chairman publically states that>>Schiavo will be used for political gain?>>I'm expecting all the lefties that went after the Republicans to start>>going after Dean right about now...>
Clearly, expecting honesty from them is expecting far too much.
Those wacky progressives!
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Trent Woodruff 18 April 2005 09:30:48 [ permanent link ]
Dan Bretta was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>Trent Woodruff wrote:>>>Matthew Hennig was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>>Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in>>>>> Matthew Hennig wrote:
You object to condemning the GOP for moral grandstanding? What's>>>>wrong for you?
You know, the whole outcry about the "GOP talking points memo" that>>>ended up being from just a low-level staffer for a freshman senator...>>>Where's the outcry when the DNC Chairman publically states that Schiavo will>>>be used for political gain?>>>I'm expecting all the lefties that went after the Republicans to>>>start going after Dean right about now...
Clearly, expecting honesty from them is expecting far too much.
Did Trent Woodruff just jump off the fence?
What is "off the fence" about expecting people to be consistent?
Nothing, that's what.
Unfortunately like you, far too people understand that.
Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
Matthew Hennig wrote:> Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in> news:980d4$4262f17e$8b373efe$29511@ALLTEL.NET: >
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>
Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in>>
But I seem to remember all the lefties all up in arms about the>>>supposed memo making it a GOP political move. >>
A question of proof.>>
Yes, it's definitely about the hypocrisy.>>>
Yes, because these lefties aren't condemning Dean for making it >>>political...>>>
Dean isn't making it political. It became political when Bush, DeLay>>and Frist decided to butt in. You're simply trying to save face.>>
Well, hahahahah. It isn't working.>
I thought the lefties were saying not to make it political, but here's > Dean taking the low road... There's no trying to save face because > there's nothing to try and save face from.
"I thought you lefties...." Ha ha. You guys should never have started all that Culture of Death wheeze. Harvest the babies. Kill Dad. Get out of my hospital.
Um...condemn what? Dean's plan to capitalize on anger over GOP grandstanding?
Let me get this straight: The GOP wants to use sympathy for Terri Schiavo politically. People get angry over that. The Dems want to take advantage of that anger, and that's somehow the same thing?
You're nuts.
-- Trev
"Every Democratic Senator is to the right of Kerry..including Kucinich." - C. Beauchamp
You object to condemning the GOP for moral grandstanding?> > What's wrong for you?>
It ain't grandstanding if they believe it, which they did.>
I thought the objection of the Democrats was the GOP using> the Schiavo case for political gain. Obviously that's not> it, as it appears the Democrats are in fact going to do that.
They're not using the Schiavo case for political gain. They're using the GOP grandstanding about the Schiavo case for political gain.
-- Trev
"Every Democratic Senator is to the right of Kerry..including Kucinich." - C. Beauchamp
Trevor Zion Bauknight 18 April 2005 19:03:14 [ permanent link ]
In article <Xns963B8FA5CC113matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136>, Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote:
Hope you get the care you need.>
Why not just be honest and admit that your outcry against the Republicans > for claiming it all for political gain (even though it was a memo from a > freshman senator's office done without his knowledge)
HE PASSED IT OUT BY HAND.
-- Trev
"Every Democratic Senator is to the right of Kerry..including Kucinich." - C. Beauchamp
Trevor Zion Bauknight 18 April 2005 19:06:24 [ permanent link ]
In article <Xns963BB97B74A5matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136>, Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote:
It's about the hypocricy.> >
What exactly was Bush and Co. trying to gain politically?>
I think they did it because they truly believed in what they were doing > in trying to prevent her feeding tubes from being removed.
I think they were afraid of the political ramifications of doing otherwise. Sorta like how Democrats were pressured into supporting the war in Iraq by GOP appeals to 9/11...
-- Trev
"Every Democratic Senator is to the right of Kerry..including Kucinich." - C. Beauchamp
Matthew Hennig 18 April 2005 20:15:34 [ permanent link ]
Trevor Zion Bauknight <trev@sc.edu> wrote in news:trev-A8E5AA.11031418042005@news2-ge0.southeast.rr.com:
In article <Xns963B8FA5CC113matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136>,> Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote:>
Hope you get the care you need.>>
Why not just be honest and admit that your outcry against the>> Republicans for claiming it all for political gain (even though it>> was a memo from a freshman senator's office done without his>> knowledge) >
HE PASSED IT OUT BY HAND.
Let's see, he passed it on to Sen Harkin. Gee, do you honestly think that Martinez was passing this around if he's giving it to Sen Tom 'Lyin bout Vietnam' Harkin???
Unbelievable...
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Trevor Zion Bauknight 18 April 2005 20:26:12 [ permanent link ]
In article <Xns963C72760E888matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136>, Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote:
Hope you get the care you need.> >>
Why not just be honest and admit that your outcry against the> >> Republicans for claiming it all for political gain (even though it> >> was a memo from a freshman senator's office done without his> >> knowledge) > >
HE PASSED IT OUT BY HAND.>
Let's see, he passed it on to Sen Harkin. Gee, do you honestly think > that Martinez was passing this around if he's giving it to Sen Tom 'Lyin > bout Vietnam' Harkin???>
Unbelievable...
BUT IT WAS DONE WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEGE!
-- Trev
"Every Democratic Senator is to the right of Kerry..including Kucinich." - C. Beauchamp
Trevor Zion Bauknight <trev@sc.edu> wrote in>news:trev-A8E5AA.11031418042005@news2-ge0.southeast.rr.com: >
In article <Xns963B8FA5CC113matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136>,>> Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote:>>
Hope you get the care you need.>>>>
Why not just be honest and admit that your outcry against the>>>Republicans for claiming it all for political gain (even though it>>>was a memo from a freshman senator's office done without his>>>knowledge) >>>
HE PASSED IT OUT BY HAND.>>
Let's see, he passed it on to Sen Harkin. Gee, do you honestly think >that Martinez was passing this around if he's giving it to Sen Tom 'Lyin >bout Vietnam' Harkin???>
Matthew Hennig 18 April 2005 22:21:59 [ permanent link ]
"Dan Bretta" <nudan92@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1113847163.017871.306330 @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Trent Woodruff wrote:>> >Dan Bretta was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>> >>Trent Woodruff wrote:>> >>>Matthew Hennig was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>> >>>>Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in>> >>>>> Matthew Hennig wrote:>>
You object to condemning the GOP for moral grandstanding? What's>> >>>>wrong for you?>>
You know, the whole outcry about the "GOP talking points memo"> that>> >>>ended up being from just a low-level staffer for a freshman> senator...>> >>>Where's the outcry when the DNC Chairman publically states that> Schiavo will>> >>>be used for political gain?>> >>>I'm expecting all the lefties that went after the Republicans to>> >>>start going after Dean right about now...>>
Clearly, expecting honesty from them is expecting far too much.>>
Did Trent Woodruff just jump off the fence?>>
What is "off the fence" about expecting people to be consistent?>>
Nothing, that's what.>>
Unfortunately like you, far too people understand that.>>
Really? I don't see you railing on the GOP for their inconsistencies.> The only thing I've seen out of you lately besides your incessant> whining about the state of Nebraska football is snarky comments echoing> the right wing fascists of rsfc. If you're gonna be a fence sitter you> need to make qualifiers in all of your statements or at least balance> them out.
You know it really helps your arguments to call those on the other side 'right wing fascists'.
MH (But don't let me get in the way of your snark)
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Trevor Zion Bauknight 18 April 2005 22:39:21 [ permanent link ]
In article <Xns963C87E539BE1matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136>, Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote:
Unfortunately like you, far too people understand that.> >>
Really? I don't see you railing on the GOP for their inconsistencies.> > The only thing I've seen out of you lately besides your incessant> > whining about the state of Nebraska football is snarky comments echoing> > the right wing fascists of rsfc. If you're gonna be a fence sitter you> > need to make qualifiers in all of your statements or at least balance> > them out.>
You know it really helps your arguments to call those on the other side > 'right wing fascists'. >
MH (But don't let me get in the way of your snark)
If the jackboot fits...
-- Trev
"Every Democratic Senator is to the right of Kerry..including Kucinich." - C. Beauchamp
Matthew Hennig 18 April 2005 23:29:46 [ permanent link ]
Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in news:76bb3$42640942$80a32844$21008@ALLTEL.NET:
Matthew Hennig wrote:>
[...]>
It was his entire chain of command that did not respect him. It was >>Kerry's desire to get his medals to get out. So which substantive >>charges were proved false or outside believability?>>
The doctor who couldn't have treated him who remembered treating him.
And how could he not have treated him?
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in>news:76bb3$42640942$80a32844$21008@ALLTEL.NET: >
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>
[...]>>
It was his entire chain of command that did not respect him. It was >>>Kerry's desire to get his medals to get out. So which substantive >>>charges were proved false or outside believability?>>>
The doctor who couldn't have treated him who remembered treating him.>>
Matthew Hennig 19 April 2005 00:28:56 [ permanent link ]
Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in news:aaa33$42640d63$80a32844 $2606@ALLTEL.NET:
Matthew Hennig wrote:>
Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in>>news:76bb3$42640942$80a32844$21008@ALLTEL.NET: >>
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>>
[...]>>>
It was his entire chain of command that did not respect him. It was >>>>Kerry's desire to get his medals to get out. So which substantive >>>>charges were proved false or outside believability?>>>>
The doctor who couldn't have treated him who remembered treating him.>>>
And how could he not have treated him?>>
He wasn't there.
Says who?
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Interesting. I believe that any doctor who performs a> clitoridectomy> > > in the United States should lose his license and go to jail.> >
Why? Is it medically dangerous when done by a real surgeon?> >
I suppose if someone over the age of consent wants to have it done to> herself then by all means go for it, but any doctor who performs this> on a child should lose his license and the parents should be charged> with child abuse.
I assume you're pretty torn up over male circumcision, as well...
-- Trev
"Every Democratic Senator is to the right of Kerry..including Kucinich." - C. Beauchamp
Interesting. I believe that any doctor who performs a> clitoridectomy>> > in the United States should lose his license and go to jail.>>
Why? Is it medically dangerous when done by a real surgeon?>>
I suppose if someone over the age of consent wants to have it done to> herself then by all means go for it, but any doctor who performs this> on a child should lose his license and the parents should be charged> with child abuse.
What if its done via parental consent?
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Bryan S . Slick 19 April 2005 02:03:41 [ permanent link ]
[Trevor Zion Bauknight (trev@sc.edu)] [Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:39:21 GMT]
:In article <Xns963C87E539BE1matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136>, : Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote: : :> >> Unfortunately like you, far too people understand that. :> >> :> > Really? I don't see you railing on the GOP for their inconsistencies. :> > The only thing I've seen out of you lately besides your incessant :> > whining about the state of Nebraska football is snarky comments echoing :> > the right wing fascists of rsfc. If you're gonna be a fence sitter you :> > need to make qualifiers in all of your statements or at least balance :> > them out. :> :> You know it really helps your arguments to call those on the other side :> 'right wing fascists'. :> :> MH (But don't let me get in the way of your snark) : :If the jackboot fits...
Which it doesn't, any more than the ballet slipper fits when the right- wingers drone on about limp-wristed liberals..
Grow up.
-- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com
"There ain't nothing wrong a few cold beers can't iron out in fact, you tell me just when and where, and I'll buy the first round"
Trent Woodruff 19 April 2005 03:53:49 [ permanent link ]
Dan Bretta was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>Trent Woodruff wrote:>>>Dan Bretta was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>>Trent Woodruff wrote:>>>>>Matthew Hennig was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>>>>Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in>>>>>>> Matthew Hennig wrote:
You object to condemning the GOP for moral grandstanding? What's>>>>>>wrong for you?
You know, the whole outcry about the "GOP talking points memo">>>>>that ended up being from just a low-level staffer for a freshman>>>>>senator...>>>>>Where's the outcry when the DNC Chairman publically states that>>>>>Schiavo will be used for political gain?>>>>>I'm expecting all the lefties that went after the Republicans to>>>>>start going after Dean right about now...
Clearly, expecting honesty from them is expecting far too much.
Did Trent Woodruff just jump off the fence?
What is "off the fence" about expecting people to be consistent?>> Nothing, that's what.>> Unfortunately like you, far too people understand that.
Really? I don't see you railing on the GOP for their inconsistencies.
You don't? Seriously? I stand amazed in the thought that most of the conservatives in this newsgroup think I'm a liberal.
The only thing I've seen out of you lately besides your incessant>whining about the state of Nebraska football
You've clearly redefined "incessant whining"...have you lost your sanity?
is snarky comments echoing the right wing fascists of rsfc. If>you're gonna be a fence sitter you>need to make qualifiers in all of your statements or at least balance>them out.
You have clearly lost all sense of rationality.
I hope you find it again someday.
Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Trent Woodruff 19 April 2005 04:59:51 [ permanent link ]
Dan Bretta was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>Trent Woodruff wrote:>>>Dan Bretta was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>>Trent Woodruff wrote:>>>>>Dan Bretta was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>>>>Trent Woodruff wrote:>>>>>>>Matthew Hennig was cut from the Baylor football team for
What is "off the fence" about expecting people to be consistent?>>>> Nothing, that's what.>>>> Unfortunately like you, far too people understand that.
Really? I don't see you railing on the GOP for their>>>inconsistencies.
You don't? Seriously? I stand amazed in the thought that most of>> the conservatives in this newsgroup think I'm a liberal.
I'll admit I don't read every post on rsfc, but could you point some>recent examples out for me?
No, I will not. It's certainly easy enough for you to Google if you actually want to bother being rational. I don't have any reason to believe that you do however, based on your contributions thus far to this thread.
You should do some research before making wildly inaccurate claims, however.
The only thing I've seen out of you lately besides your incessant>> >whining about the state of Nebraska football
You've clearly redefined "incessant whining"...have you lost your>> sanity?
Clearly.
My thoughts precisely.
is snarky comments echoing the right wing fascists of rsfc. If>>>you're gonna be a fence sitter you>>>need to make qualifiers in all of your statements or at least>>>balance them out.
You have clearly lost all sense of rationality.
Clearly.
My thoughts precisely.
I hope you find it again someday.
Me too. Perhaps you can help me find it by pointing me to your posts>railing on the GOP for their inconsistencies.
Perhaps you can get your miniscule intelligence wrapped around the functionality of Google.
Or ask the conservatives around here how conservative they think I am, if you're feeling particularly lazy.
Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
Interesting. I believe that any doctor who performs a>> > clitoridectomy>> >> > in the United States should lose his license and go to jail.>> >>
Why? Is it medically dangerous when done by a real surgeon?>> >>
I suppose if someone over the age of consent wants to have it done> to>> > herself then by all means go for it, but any doctor who performs> this>> > on a child should lose his license and the parents should be> charged>> > with child abuse.>>
What if its done via parental consent?>>
I still think it's wrong. Parents don't always do what's in the best> interest of their children. There was a case in my hometown here a few> years ago where a 15YO Iraqi girl was "given" in marriage to an older> man. Were the parents right to do that?
Morally, I think female circumcision and 15 year old arranged marriages are horribly wrong. Legally, I don't think either is an illegal practice, unfortunately.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Interesting. I believe that any doctor who performs a> clitoridectomy>> > in the United States should lose his license and go to jail.>>
Why? Is it medically dangerous when done by a real surgeon?>>
I suppose if someone over the age of consent wants to have it done to> herself then by all means go for it, but any doctor who performs this> on a child should lose his license and the parents should be charged> with child abuse.
What about other forms of female circumcision, say clitoridotomy? If your opinion is the same, what about male circumcision?
Trevor Zion Bauknight 19 April 2005 19:16:05 [ permanent link ]
In article <1113920165.958096.184550@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Tom Enright" <freddy_hayek@yahoo.com> wrote:
So I guess every OB/GYN should perform abortions because that> > > is part of their job.>
Yes, they should.>
It sounds like you hate choice. Why do you hate choice?
Because once again, in spite of all the platitudes about choice, it comes down to the fact that the only people who actually *have* choices are the ones who can afford to make them.
-- Trev
"Every Democratic Senator is to the right of Kerry..including Kucinich." - C. Beauchamp
Paranoid Dehumanized Narcissist 19 April 2005 21:41:03 [ permanent link ]
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:49:15 -0500, Matthew Hennig wrote:
Paranoid Dehumanized Narcissist <mdahwoopitywoomus@iwoopitywooo.com>> wrote in newsan.2005.04.19.16.37.51.160351@iwoopitywooo.com: >
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:55:27 -0500, Matthew Hennig wrote:>>
If I decide I don't want to write code for companies whose chairmen>>>> are fundamentalist Christians, my boss should be free to fire me.>>>
But the boss can decide he doesn't want to write code for companies>>> whose chairmen are fundamentalist Christians...>>
And if the company expects to do business with companies that have>> actual standards (like, say, an HMO), they'd better be prepared to>> lose business.>
Of course, that's their choice though. You want to remove that choice.
No. The "choice" is made by the company, not the individual working there.
But you and your religious fundamentalist buttboys want to protect the individual from being fired for exercising their shitty religion. THAT'S THE PROBLEM, SON.
-- Paranoid Dehumanized Narcissist Remove the woopitywoo, you moron.
Matthew Hennig 19 April 2005 22:05:10 [ permanent link ]
kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) wrote in news:IF7F44.Fwz@asuvax.eas.asu.edu:
woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) writes:>> >Dan Bretta was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>> >>Trent Woodruff wrote:>> >>>Matthew Hennig was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>> >>>>Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in>> >>>>> Matthew Hennig wrote:>>
You object to condemning the GOP for moral grandstanding? What's>> >>>>wrong for you?>>
You know, the whole outcry about the "GOP talking points memo">> >>>that ended up being from just a low-level staffer for a freshman>> >>>senator... Where's the outcry when the DNC Chairman publically>> >>>states that Schiavo will be used for political gain?>> >>>I'm expecting all the lefties that went after the Republicans to>> >>>start going after Dean right about now...>>
Clearly, expecting honesty from them is expecting far too much.>>
Did Trent Woodruff just jump off the fence? >>
What is "off the fence" about expecting people to be consistent?>>
Nothing, that's what.>>
Unfortunately like you, far too people understand that.>
That you and the rest of you chuckleheads can't> tell the difference between the Republican memo> suggesting using Terry Schiavo for political gain,> and Howard Dean using this despicable Republican> behavior as ammunition against them, only shows> how FUCKING STUPID you are.>
No really. I'm starting to really tire being> surrounded by FUCKING IDIOTS in this chatroom.>
Let's spell it out like you're four:>
1. Republicans plot to use Schiavo politically.> This starts with memo and continues with> special legislation and dramatic Bush flight> from Texas to Washington when he could have> easily just signed the bill in Texas.>
2. Howard Dean says we're going to call them> on this in the campaign.>
3. You IDIOTS say that calling somebody on> a thing is the same as doing that bad thing> in the first place and is hypocritical. HUH?
1. "We're going to use Terri Schiavo later on," Dean said of the brain- damaged Floridian who died last month after her feeding tube was removed amid a swarm of political controversy."
2. Its about the politizing of the woman and surrounding case. Democrats were crying that it shouldn't be politized, but yet here is Dean adding to the politization of it.
3. So yes, instead of taking the supposed high ground on this, Dean wants to sling more mud using Terri Schiavo. That is hypocritical.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
$2500 worth of home AC repairs last Friday have made me ASKAIRT.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Need I remind you of all the arguments you've run away from with your tail >between your legs?
No, Khan, but I'm sure you could use your SUPERIOR INTELLECT and come up with'em. Who knows, it might even get you a FoTY Rutsie.
Knock yerself out.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
:> I don't have the patience to allow you to dance like this. I'll just :> cut to the chase, as I did this time. : :Try not to put words in my mouth next time.
After six years, I remain amazed that some of you even bother anymore.
-- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com
"There ain't nothing wrong a few cold beers can't iron out in fact, you tell me just when and where, and I'll buy the first round"
Matthew Hennig 20 April 2005 01:10:53 [ permanent link ]
kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) wrote in news:IF7nqr.JIF@asuvax.eas.asu.edu:
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> writes:>> kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) wrote:>> > woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) writes:>> >> >Dan Bretta was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>> >> >>Trent Woodruff wrote:>> >> >>>Matthew Hennig was cut from the Baylor football team for>> >> >>>saying... >> >> >>>>Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in>> >> >>>>> Matthew Hennig wrote:>> >>
You object to condemning the GOP for moral grandstanding?>> >> >>>> What's >> >> >>>>wrong for you?>> >>
You know, the whole outcry about the "GOP talking points memo">> >> >>>that ended up being from just a low-level staffer for a>> >> >>>freshman senator... Where's the outcry when the DNC Chairman>> >> >>>publically states that Schiavo will be used for political gain?>> >> >>>I'm expecting all the lefties that went after the Republicans>> >> >>>to start going after Dean right about now...>> >>
Clearly, expecting honesty from them is expecting far too much.>> >>
Did Trent Woodruff just jump off the fence? >> >>
What is "off the fence" about expecting people to be consistent?>> >>
Nothing, that's what.>> >>
Unfortunately like you, far too people understand that.>> >
That you and the rest of you chuckleheads can't>> > tell the difference between the Republican memo>> > suggesting using Terry Schiavo for political gain,>> > and Howard Dean using this despicable Republican>> > behavior as ammunition against them, only shows>> > how FUCKING STUPID you are.>> >
No really. I'm starting to really tire being>> > surrounded by FUCKING IDIOTS in this chatroom.>> >
Let's spell it out like you're four:>> >
1. Republicans plot to use Schiavo politically.>> > This starts with memo and continues with>> > special legislation and dramatic Bush flight>> > from Texas to Washington when he could have>> > easily just signed the bill in Texas.>> >
2. Howard Dean says we're going to call them>> > on this in the campaign.>> >
3. You IDIOTS say that calling somebody on>> > a thing is the same as doing that bad thing>> > in the first place and is hypocritical. HUH? >>
1. "We're going to use Terri Schiavo later on," Dean said of the>> brain- >> damaged Floridian who died last month after her feeding tube>> was removed amid a swarm of political controversy.">
Yes, he said that, and it is clear from the rest> of the article that he is talking about calling the> Republicans for what they did in the Schiavo case.>
This is the article (or another version of) the> article we're already discussing, but thanks for providing> the acct and pw anyway, you're one of the few rsfckers> courteous enough to do this.>
2. Its about the politizing of the woman and surrounding case. >> Democrats were crying that it shouldn't be politized, but yet here is>> Dean adding to the politization of it.>
Yes, to the extent that he is saying it never should> have happened.>
3. So yes, instead of taking the supposed high ground on this, Dean >> wants to sling more mud using Terri Schiavo. That is hypocritical.>
Pray tell, how do you "take the high road" on> this without mentioning what happened? The only> way to do that would be to pretend it never happened.>
A fine Catch-22 you've set up, Mr. Hennig.>
"You Republicans did a bad thing.">
"Like what?">
"You used Terry Schiavo for cheap political gain,> and now I'm calling you on it.">
"But you're doing the same thing by bringing it up!"> Hypocrite!!"
We'll see, but do you honestly believe that Dean will stay with that or will he go full out on it, going further than just pointing out problems with Republicans as he sees it?
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Matthew Hennig 20 April 2005 02:45:19 [ permanent link ]
kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) wrote in news:IF7s5H.LKA@asuvax.eas.asu.edu:
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> writes:>> kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) wrote in>> news:IF7nqr.JIF@asuvax.eas.asu.edu: >>
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> writes:>> >> kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) wrote:>> >> > woodruffs@cableone.net (Trent Woodruff) writes:>> >> >> >Dan Bretta was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>> >> >> >>Trent Woodruff wrote:>> >> >> >>>Matthew Hennig was cut from the Baylor football team for>> >> >> >>>saying... >> >> >> >>>>Jeffrey Davis <res099c9@alltel.net> wrote in>> >> >> >>>>> Matthew Hennig wrote:>> >> >>
You object to condemning the GOP for moral grandstanding?>> >> >> >>>> What's >> >> >> >>>>wrong for you?>> >> >>
You know, the whole outcry about the "GOP talking points>> >> >> >>>memo" that ended up being from just a low-level staffer for>> >> >> >>>a freshman senator... Where's the outcry when the DNC>> >> >> >>>Chairman publically states that Schiavo will be used for>> >> >> >>>political gain? I'm expecting all the lefties that went>> >> >> >>>after the Republicans to start going after Dean right about>> >> >> >>>now... >> >> >>
Clearly, expecting honesty from them is expecting far too>> >> >> >> much. >> >> >>
Did Trent Woodruff just jump off the fence? >> >> >>
What is "off the fence" about expecting people to be>> >> >> consistent? >> >> >>
Nothing, that's what.>> >> >>
Unfortunately like you, far too people understand that.>> >> >
That you and the rest of you chuckleheads can't>> >> > tell the difference between the Republican memo>> >> > suggesting using Terry Schiavo for political gain,>> >> > and Howard Dean using this despicable Republican>> >> > behavior as ammunition against them, only shows>> >> > how FUCKING STUPID you are.>> >> >
No really. I'm starting to really tire being>> >> > surrounded by FUCKING IDIOTS in this chatroom.>> >> >
Let's spell it out like you're four:>> >> >
1. Republicans plot to use Schiavo politically.>> >> > This starts with memo and continues with>> >> > special legislation and dramatic Bush flight>> >> > from Texas to Washington when he could have>> >> > easily just signed the bill in Texas.>> >> >
2. Howard Dean says we're going to call them>> >> > on this in the campaign.>> >> >
3. You IDIOTS say that calling somebody on>> >> > a thing is the same as doing that bad thing>> >> > in the first place and is hypocritical. HUH? >> >>
1. "We're going to use Terri Schiavo later on," Dean said of the>> >> brain- >> >> damaged Floridian who died last month after her feeding>> >> tube was removed amid a swarm of political controversy.">> >
Yes, he said that, and it is clear from the rest>> > of the article that he is talking about calling the>> > Republicans for what they did in the Schiavo case.>> >
This is the article (or another version of) the>> > article we're already discussing, but thanks for providing>> > the acct and pw anyway, you're one of the few rsfckers>> > courteous enough to do this.>> >
2. Its about the politizing of the woman and surrounding case. >> >> Democrats were crying that it shouldn't be politized, but yet here>> >> is Dean adding to the politization of it.>> >
Yes, to the extent that he is saying it never should>> > have happened.>> >
3. So yes, instead of taking the supposed high ground on this,>> >> Dean wants to sling more mud using Terri Schiavo. That is>> >> hypocritical. >> >
Pray tell, how do you "take the high road" on>> > this without mentioning what happened? The only>> > way to do that would be to pretend it never happened.>> >
A fine Catch-22 you've set up, Mr. Hennig.>> >
"You Republicans did a bad thing.">> >
"Like what?">> >
"You used Terry Schiavo for cheap political gain,>> > and now I'm calling you on it.">> >
"But you're doing the same thing by bringing it up!">> > Hypocrite!!">>
We'll see, but do you honestly believe that Dean will stay with that>> or will he go full out on it, going further than just pointing out>> problems with Republicans as he sees it?>
I predict he will be coming from the right place,> but will rsfck up and say say something dumn. He> doesn't exactly think well on his feet.
I'm not so sure about him coming from the right place... After all, he is the guy that hates Republicans. I'm glad he's the Democrat leader.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
I'm still waiting for your (doubtlessly brilliant) response.
Sorry... too busy looking for those damb feckles.
But then again, I'm sure you don't need me to remind you of what a feckless >coward you are.
See?
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Neither of these articles contains the word "abortion", or any>>>> variation thereof. Not even in passing.>>>>
Try again.>>>
Are you attempting to tell me that abortions are not done by ob/gyns?>>
All monkeys are primates, but not all primates are monkeys.>>
Logic is not your enemy, Matthew. Stop waging war on it.>
Ok, Daniel, tell me, who is the primary performer of abortions?
Look, Matthew, if you [have no intention/are not capable] of actually reading and thinking about what you're purportedly responding to, don't respond to it in the first place.
The argument you are attempting to make is patently illogical, and you know it just as well as I do. Why do you think that the WikiPedia articles on obstetrics and gynecology fail to mention abortion in any way, shape or form? Why do official online resources for OBGYNs make little to no mention of abortion of any variety other than the spontaneous (i.e., miscarriages)? Do you think this is all some kind of conspiracy, or are you just ignoring it because it doesn't jive with your predetermined conclusions?
Matthew Hennig 20 April 2005 19:33:23 [ permanent link ]
Dave Reid <ddreid@comcast.net> wrote in news:Xns963E4D00465CFddreidcomcastnet@216.196.97.131:
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> wrote in > news:Xns963E5633E6722matthaggiescom@216.196.97.136:>
If the prescriptions are all legally written, there's nothing>> precisely illegal there.>
"Doctor Shopping" is illegal. You should know that, being a> doctor and all.
Doctor shopping is illegal in some states, but not all. I don't see any mention of it in the legal code of Indiana, for instance. It is morally and ethically wrong, but say it is outright illegal takes some qualifiers there.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Neither of these articles contains the word "abortion", or any>>>>> variation thereof. Not even in passing.>>>>>
Try again.>>>>
Are you attempting to tell me that abortions are not done by ob/gyns?>>>
All monkeys are primates, but not all primates are monkeys.>>>
Logic is not your enemy, Matthew. Stop waging war on it.>>
Ok, Daniel, tell me, who is the primary performer of abortions?>
Look, Matthew, if you [have no intention/are not capable] of actually reading >and thinking about what you're purportedly responding to, don't respond to it >in the first place.
Oh, the irony drips.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
Trent Woodruff 21 April 2005 07:10:52 [ permanent link ]
Dan Bretta was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>Trent Woodruff wrote:>>>Dan Bretta was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>>Trent Woodruff wrote:
Ah, so now I have no stances. Being "in the middle" politically>>>> doesn't mean I have no stances.
You're nowhere near the middle.
You may be right about that, but if you are it's because I'm closer>> to being liberal than I am to being conservative.>> Your cluelessness is very disappointing. And yet, you keep wallowing>> in it.
You ignored the rest of my post. Why is that? Is it because you>really can't see a difference? Or is it that you see the difference>now, but you're not man enough to admit when you're wrong?
Is that an admission on your part that you ignored what I typed because you weren't man enough to admit when you're wrong? Oh wait...I'm sure that's just different, right?
I didn't respond to the rest of that post because you made it patently clear that you had no intention of listening to my response regarding it. There was clearly no point in responding.
Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
Neither of these articles contains the word "abortion", or any>>>>>> variation thereof. Not even in passing.>>>>>>
Try again.>>>>>
Are you attempting to tell me that abortions are not done by ob/gyns?>>>>
All monkeys are primates, but not all primates are monkeys.>>>>
Logic is not your enemy, Matthew. Stop waging war on it.>>>
Ok, Daniel, tell me, who is the primary performer of abortions?>>
Look, Matthew, if you [have no intention/are not capable] of actually >> reading >> and thinking about what you're purportedly responding to, don't respond to >> it in the first place.>
Oh, the irony drips.
Go back to sleep, Rogers. You aren't a player on this stage.
Matthew Hennig 21 April 2005 23:42:03 [ permanent link ]
"Tom Enright" <freddy_hayek@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1114109728.954849.287920@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Daniel Seriff wrote:>
And has thou slain the Jabberwock, Matthew Hennig?><snip>>
I've never really known you to allow reality to get in the way of>> what you believe, but you're really lost deep in the Forest of>> Denial on this one. Your fundamental claim is that people should>> be free not to do their jobs if they don't want to (with the hidden>> implication that there shouldn't be any direct consequences for>> such a refusal), yet you have repeatedly claimed in other threads>> that federal judges shouldn't be *allowed* to do their jobs in>> the event you don't agree with how they do it. That you base the>> latter argument on an apparent ignorance of the way the US government>> functions just makes it even worse.>>
Do you really not see how wildly inconsistent, even irrational,>> you're being? What kind of mental gymnastics do you have to do to>> reconcile those two positions? Do you even bother?>
I think you are way off-base here.>
Seems to me he is merely stating that people should not be forced> by government to do something they consider immoral. If a doctor> refuses to perform abortion, he should not be compelled to do so> by law.>
A doctor in private practice can make this choice easily. A doctor> who is in the employ of a hospital or corporation would know going> in whether or not performing an abortion was part of the job> description.>
Regarding judges, I agree that they often are abusing their office.>
It's a fairly black and white situation, your histrionics are> misplaced.
You understand what I was saying. I wonder why Daniel doesn't?
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Yeah, Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com>, well... that's just like... your opinion man.
"Tom Enright" <freddy_hayek@yahoo.com> wrote in >news:1114109728.954849.287920@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:>
Daniel Seriff wrote:>>
And has thou slain the Jabberwock, Matthew Hennig?>><snip>>>
I've never really known you to allow reality to get in the way of>>> what you believe, but you're really lost deep in the Forest of>>> Denial on this one. Your fundamental claim is that people should>>> be free not to do their jobs if they don't want to (with the hidden>>> implication that there shouldn't be any direct consequences for>>> such a refusal), yet you have repeatedly claimed in other threads>>> that federal judges shouldn't be *allowed* to do their jobs in>>> the event you don't agree with how they do it. That you base the>>> latter argument on an apparent ignorance of the way the US government>>> functions just makes it even worse.>>>
Do you really not see how wildly inconsistent, even irrational,>>> you're being? What kind of mental gymnastics do you have to do to>>> reconcile those two positions? Do you even bother?>>
I think you are way off-base here.>>
Seems to me he is merely stating that people should not be forced>> by government to do something they consider immoral. If a doctor>> refuses to perform abortion, he should not be compelled to do so>> by law.>>
A doctor in private practice can make this choice easily. A doctor>> who is in the employ of a hospital or corporation would know going>> in whether or not performing an abortion was part of the job>> description.>>
Regarding judges, I agree that they often are abusing their office.>>
It's a fairly black and white situation, your histrionics are>> misplaced.>
You understand what I was saying. I wonder why Daniel doesn't?
Because he knows your an idiot. In fact, he's sure of it.
John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven - Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities, Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."
