At Parent-Teacher conferences, the teacher said she could imagine my daughter being a First Lady. She said she could picture her telling her husband how to do things, but all the while smiling genteel-like. I told this to Anna....... I said, "Your teacher said she could imagine you as the First Lady someday." She responded, "First Lady?" I said, "Yea, you know.....the President's wife." She said quickly, "Oh no, not the President's wife...I'm going to be the President."
Randolph M. Jones 5 April 2005 23:01:05 [ permanent link ]
WiNK wrote:> At Parent-Teacher conferences, the teacher said she could imagine my> daughter being a First Lady. She said she could picture her telling her> husband how to do things, but all the while smiling genteel-like. I told> this to Anna....... I said, "Your teacher said she could imagine you as the> First Lady someday." She responded, "First Lady?" I said, "Yea, you> know.....the President's wife." She said quickly, "Oh no, not the> President's wife...I'm going to be the President.">
That's my girl.
It drives me nuts that there are still teachers out there who will say things like that. Good for Anna.
<mianderson@students.mcg.edu> wrote in message news:1112729589.534211.72230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...>
Tom Enright wrote:> What I thought the teacher was attempting to> > compare Anna to Hillary Clinton (which to ME would be an insult).>
-scholar at Wellesley> -scholar at the best law school in the country> -married to successful man with one child> -was a top partner in a very successful law firm> -US senator>
If I ever have a daughter and she manages to do those things, I'd be> extremely proud of her.>
Depends what's important to you. Success or character. A woman in a loveless marriage. These things are important, too.......... What you said may be impressive, but it's not *all* I want for my daughter.
Trevor Zion Bauknight 6 April 2005 00:03:11 [ permanent link ]
In article <1155pdvajtee23d@corp.supernews.com>, "WiNK" <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> wrote:
Alright, everyone relax. Being the wife of the president while> > behaving like the "real" president would be a compliment. I saw> > it as a slap at men, because they are so dumb they need to be> > told what to do. What I thought the teacher was attempting to> > compare Anna to Hillary Clinton (which to ME would be an insult).> > It is rather likely that the teacher is a Democrat.> >
PS: Margaret Thatcher.> >
<snip rant-chat>> >
-Tom Enright>
Yea, I was kind of thinking the same thing....... that the President was> merely an empty-headed puppet, with wifey pulling the strings and calling> the shots.
I can certainly see your attraction to Bush.
-- Trev
"Every Democratic Senator is to the right of Kerry..including Kucinich." - C. Beauchamp
"Trevor Zion Bauknight" <trev@sc.edu> wrote in message news:trev-9BDB2D.16031005042005@news1-ge0.southeast.rr.com...> In article <1155pdvajtee23d@corp.supernews.com>,> "WiNK" <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> wrote:>
Alright, everyone relax. Being the wife of the president while> > > behaving like the "real" president would be a compliment. I saw> > > it as a slap at men, because they are so dumb they need to be> > > told what to do. What I thought the teacher was attempting to> > > compare Anna to Hillary Clinton (which to ME would be an insult).> > > It is rather likely that the teacher is a Democrat.> > >
PS: Margaret Thatcher.> > >
<snip rant-chat>> > >
-Tom Enright> >
Yea, I was kind of thinking the same thing....... that the President was> > merely an empty-headed puppet, with wifey pulling the strings and
<mianderson@students.mcg.edu> wrote in message news:1112730453.603850.261580@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...>
WiNK wrote:> Success or character. A woman in a> > loveless marriage. These things are important, too..........>
True, and I would be even more proud of my daughter if she had the> ability to understand that marriage is difficult, there will be rough> times, and that with forgiveness and a lot of effort things can be> worked out if that's what both parties want.>
Charles Beauchamp 6 April 2005 01:13:20 [ permanent link ]
WiNK wrote:> At Parent-Teacher conferences, the teacher said she could imagine my> daughter being a First Lady. She said she could picture her telling> her husband how to do things, but all the while smiling genteel-like.> I told this to Anna....... I said, "Your teacher said she could> imagine you as the First Lady someday." She responded, "First Lady?"> I said, "Yea, you know.....the President's wife." She said quickly,> "Oh no, not the President's wife...I'm going to be the President.">
That's my girl.>
Peach
My son Ryan is going to be President after his career as a Naval Aviator.
Edward M. Kennedy 6 April 2005 01:17:20 [ permanent link ]
"WiNK" <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> wrote
What I thought the teacher was attempting to> > > compare Anna to Hillary Clinton (which to ME would be an insult).> >
-scholar at Wellesley> > -scholar at the best law school in the country> > -married to successful man with one child> > -was a top partner in a very successful law firm> > -US senator> >
If I ever have a daughter and she manages to do those things, I'd be> > extremely proud of her.> >
Depends what's important to you. Success or character. A woman in a> loveless marriage. These things are important, too.......... What you said> may be impressive, but it's not *all* I want for my daughter.
Their marriage isn't loveless, it just isn't between Bill and Hillary. Bill is probably getting more than this entire newsgroup combined. Hillary probably needs a female intern to help her bathe or something.
<mianderson@students.mcg.edu> wrote in message news:1112729589.534211.72230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...>
Tom Enright wrote:> What I thought the teacher was attempting to> > compare Anna to Hillary Clinton (which to ME would be an insult).>
-scholar at Wellesley> -scholar at the best law school in the country> -married to successful man with one child> -was a top partner in a very successful law firm> -US senator>
If I ever have a daughter and she manages to do those things, I'd be> extremely proud of her.
Well dumas, I am having a daughter here in a few weeks, and she can accomplish much much less and I'll still be extremely proud of her. And I'm a Republican.
PS. Your little story on the republican family was anecdotal. Sounded more like they just liked their son more than their daughter. That happens. Dem or Rep.>
Charles Beauchamp 6 April 2005 01:23:13 [ permanent link ]
mianderson@students.mcg.edu wrote:> WiNK wrote:> Success or character. A woman in a>> loveless marriage. These things are important, too..........>
True, and I would be even more proud of my daughter if she had the> ability to understand that marriage is difficult, there will be rough> times, and that with forgiveness and a lot of effort things can be> worked out if that's what both parties want.
I am always amused at two things. Parenting commentary from folks who have no kids and marriage tips from folks who have never been married.
You want an explanation, Charles Beauchamp? Here's your explanation. God is Pissed.
mianderson@students.mcg.edu wrote:>> WiNK wrote:>> Success or character. A woman in a>>> loveless marriage. These things are important, too..........>>
True, and I would be even more proud of my daughter if she had>> the ability to understand that marriage is difficult, there>> will be rough times, and that with forgiveness and a lot of>> effort things can be worked out if that's what both parties>> want. >
I am always amused at two things. Parenting commentary from> folks who have no kids and marriage tips from folks who have> never been married. >
That's cuz we have seen all the dumn things you parents and married folks have done.
You want an explanation, ? Here's your explanation. God is Pissed.
Jim Brown wrote:>> >
If I ever have a daughter and she manages to do those things,>> > I'd > be>> > extremely proud of her.>>
Well dumas, I am having a daughter here in a few weeks, and she>> can accomplish much much less and I'll still be extremely proud>> of her. > And I'm>> a Republican.>>
Where the heck did I imply that such lofty accomplishents would> be the standard and that anything short of that would result in> me not being proud of her? Nowhere.>
But at the same time, mediocrity will not be rewarded in any> way, shape, or form. Short of being born with 47 chromosomes> or FAS, excellence will be the expected standard from any of my> daughters. >
In article <_NidnTlPlo1bnM7fRVn-oQ@comcast.com>, Charles Beauchamp <C.E.Beauchamp@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
mianderson@students.mcg.edu wrote:> > WiNK wrote:> > Success or character. A woman in a> >> loveless marriage. These things are important, too..........> >
True, and I would be even more proud of my daughter if she had the> > ability to understand that marriage is difficult, there will be rough> > times, and that with forgiveness and a lot of effort things can be> > worked out if that's what both parties want.>
I am always amused at two things. Parenting commentary from folks who have > no kids and marriage tips from folks who have never been married.
#3. Plans expressed by couples pregnant with their first child... Most seem to believe that with proper planning it won't be much more complicated than a puppy.
#4. The reality slap that gets acknowledged about 6 months later.
In article <d2uv95$um8$1@gargoyle.oit.duke.edu>, Edward M. Kennedy <nospam@baconburger.com> wrote:
"WiNK" <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> wrote>
What I thought the teacher was attempting to> > > > compare Anna to Hillary Clinton (which to ME would be an insult).> > >
-scholar at Wellesley> > > -scholar at the best law school in the country> > > -married to successful man with one child> > > -was a top partner in a very successful law firm> > > -US senator> > >
If I ever have a daughter and she manages to do those things, I'd be> > > extremely proud of her.> > >
Depends what's important to you. Success or character. A woman in a> > loveless marriage. These things are important, too.......... What you said> > may be impressive, but it's not *all* I want for my daughter.>
Their marriage isn't loveless, it just isn't between Bill and Hillary.> Bill is probably getting more than this entire newsgroup combined.> Hillary probably needs a female intern to help her bathe or something.
TMML.
"Here, honey... can you get under this left one here?"
Edward M. Kennedy 6 April 2005 01:59:48 [ permanent link ]
"Steve Cutchen" <maxfaq@earthlink.net> wrote
It was Nixon that predicted the first female VP or P would be a> Republican. Pragmatically, the Finding Demos don't gain much by> nominating a woman. Anyone that would vote based on gender being> female probably was gonna vote Demo anyway. At best, they increase> turnout some marginal amount. Republicans, on the other hand, could> benefit greatly from a woman on the ticket.
Charles Beauchamp 6 April 2005 02:55:20 [ permanent link ]
Steve Cutchen wrote:> In article <_NidnTlPlo1bnM7fRVn-oQ@comcast.com>, Charles Beauchamp> <C.E.Beauchamp@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote:>
mianderson@students.mcg.edu wrote:>>> WiNK wrote:>>> Success or character. A woman in a>>>> loveless marriage. These things are important, too..........>>>
True, and I would be even more proud of my daughter if she had the>>> ability to understand that marriage is difficult, there will be>>> rough times, and that with forgiveness and a lot of effort things>>> can be worked out if that's what both parties want.>>
I am always amused at two things. Parenting commentary from folks>> who have no kids and marriage tips from folks who have never been>> married.>
#3. Plans expressed by couples pregnant with their first child...> Most seem to believe that with proper planning it won't be much more> complicated than a puppy.>
#4. The reality slap that gets acknowledged about 6 months later.
not to mention the repeated slaps that hit thereafter..heh. -- v/r Beau
<swq22@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3i86515ns3qoss317bepcmi9ujlv7t3u40@4ax.com...> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:41:50 -0600, "WiNK" <elvistcb13@yahoo.com>> wrote:>
: :"Bryan S. Slick" <onyx_hokie@yahoo.com> wrote in message :news:MPG.1cbcdf53127b6ef798cb7e@news-40.giganews.com... :> [WiNK (elvistcb13@yahoo.com)] :> [Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:41:50 -0600] :> :> epends what's important to you. Success or character. A woman in a :> :loveless marriage. :> :> And you know this how, exactly? :> :> -- :> Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com :> : :Reality. Intuition. Discernment. One of those. : each
Riiight.. because the public image of two married people tells you all you need to know about what goes on behind closed doors.
Good God.
-- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com
"There ain't nothing wrong a few cold beers can't iron out in fact, you tell me just when and where, and I'll buy the first round"
mianderson@students.mcg.edu wrote in news:1112734147.160859.70100 @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Matthew Hennig wrote:>>
Don't worry about MIAnderson, he's just got a bit of a chip on his> shoulder>> when it comes to Republicans...>
of course I have a chip on my shoulder when it comes to> (many)republicans, especially many of the elected officials. I don't> try to pretend otherwise. Losing elections isn't fun.
And you also tend to see the worst in Republicans (though thats probably a fair assessment of both sides). Your arguments on here, though, are often out in the far left field compared to many of the other leftwingnuts.
What I do try to do is point out inconsistencies amongst the republican> base(for example immigration) and try to engage in political debate> that goes beyond just "this is my side, that's your side" type thinking> that permeates our culture right now.
How exactly have you tried to engage in debate more than "this is my side, that's your side" type thinking?
I wonder if he is projecting his own>> deficiencies here on Republicans...>
I certainly have plenty of defencies that would take a long time to> list, but I've always been about as far to the left as you can go when> it comes to womens rights,womens equality and the way our culture views> women.
And yet with the Michael Vick thread, you don't appear to follow this ideal.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
"mianderson" <clayabc@excite.com> wrote in message news:1112739031.481340.19320@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...>
Edward M. Kennedy wrote:>> "Steve Cutchen" <maxfaq@earthlink.net> wrote>>
It was Nixon that predicted the first female VP or P would be a>> > Republican. Pragmatically, the Finding Demos don't gain much by>> > nominating a woman. Anyone that would vote based on gender being>> > female probably was gonna vote Demo anyway. At best, they increase>> > turnout some marginal amount. Republicans, on the other hand,> could>> > benefit greatly from a woman on the ticket.>>
RIDE THAT SKIRT BAYBEEEEE!!!!!11!!!1!!>>
It would help even more if she were black.>>
I disagree with this to a great degree. A black female would be an> electoral disaster in many ways for republicans. Let's say they put up> a condi-type on the national stage at that level. You do lose a> significant portion of your working class white vote in the south and> midwest by doing that. You would lose a lot more of these people than> you gain from liberals who are eager to vote for a black woman. And> then if the democrats were smart enough to counter with a white blue> collar looking popular male gov.(like the guy from Iowa) it would be> real trouble for republicans in Missouri, Ohio, Arkansas, West> Virginia, etc......
<swq22@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:lrq651tll143e18r2lqgvcb9s75l00bm2o@4ax.com...> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 21:38:01 -0600, "WiNK" <elvistcb13@yahoo.com>> wrote:>
The danger of getting caught is what keeps most guys on a leash, not> >> unhappiness.> >>
And the wife feels how ?>
If she finds out ?
Okay, so let's say she never finds out. It's still a sick marriage....... so what's the point? Sounds like less than ideal to me.
"WiNK" <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> You're digging it round, when it aughta Be SQUARE
<swq22@yahoo.com> wrote in message>news:lrq651tll143e18r2lqgvcb9s75l00bm2o@4ax.com...>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 21:38:01 -0600, "WiNK" <elvistcb13@yahoo.com>>> wrote:>>
The danger of getting caught is what keeps most guys on a leash, not>> >> unhappiness.>> >>
And the wife feels how ?>>
If she finds out ?>
Okay, so let's say she never finds out. It's still a sick marriage.......>so what's the point? Sounds like less than ideal to me.>
Peach>
you should check out some of the pron that's out there, couples wanting a third, or couples wanting another guy for the wife etc... the one man one woman thing is nice for women, it's the way most women are hard wired. Bill has been a dog for decades, maybe even his whole life, Hillery might have found out early, and accepted it, because she loves him for who he is. -- "People who read the tabloids deserve to be lied to" - Jerry Seinfeld "Education is the progressive discovery of our own Ignorance" - Will Durant "We are drowning in information, while starving for wisdom." - E.O. Wilson "the glass is not only half full the first half was delicious" --Me To Reply: Scrape off the end bits...
Steve Cutchen <maxfaq@earthlink.net> wrote:> In article <_NidnTlPlo1bnM7fRVn-oQ@comcast.com>, Charles Beauchamp> <C.E.Beauchamp@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote:>
mianderson@students.mcg.edu wrote:>> > WiNK wrote:>> > Success or character. A woman in a>> >> loveless marriage. These things are important, too..........>> >
True, and I would be even more proud of my daughter if she had the>> > ability to understand that marriage is difficult, there will be rough>> > times, and that with forgiveness and a lot of effort things can be>> > worked out if that's what both parties want.>>
I am always amused at two things. Parenting commentary from folks who have >> no kids and marriage tips from folks who have never been married.>
#3. Plans expressed by couples pregnant with their first child... > Most seem to believe that with proper planning it won't be much more> complicated than a puppy.>
#4. The reality slap that gets acknowledged about 6 months later.
This is the one I never understood - before my son was born I had no illusions about these things, maybe because I remember what kind of kid I was... but so many people are just completely clueless.
"Dennis" <drjudsjr@verizon.netSCRAPE.com> wrote in message news:lfm7511cen6f1hpjnddribrtuc4ljldoj4@4ax.com...> "WiNK" <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> You're digging it round, when it aughta> Be SQUARE>
<swq22@yahoo.com> wrote in message> >news:lrq651tll143e18r2lqgvcb9s75l00bm2o@4ax.com...> >> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 21:38:01 -0600, "WiNK" <elvistcb13@yahoo.com>> >> wrote:> >>
The danger of getting caught is what keeps most guys on a leash, not> >> >> unhappiness.> >> >>
And the wife feels how ?> >>
If she finds out ?> >
Okay, so let's say she never finds out. It's still a sick
marriage.......> >so what's the point? Sounds like less than ideal to me.> >
Peach> >
you should check out some of the pron that's out there, couples> wanting a third, or couples wanting another guy for the wife etc...> the one man one woman thing is nice for women, it's the way most women> are hard wired. Bill has been a dog for decades, maybe even his whole> life, Hillery might have found out early, and accepted it, because she> loves him for who he is.> --
WiNK was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...
you should check out some of the pron that's out there, couples>> wanting a third, or couples wanting another guy for the wife etc...>> the one man one woman thing is nice for women, it's the way most women>> are hard wired. Bill has been a dog for decades, maybe even his whole>> life, Hillery might have found out early, and accepted it, because she>> loves him for who he is.
If that's "love," count me out!
While I understand entirely what you're saying...remember that real love does give you the ability to forgive/overlook things that you might not normally forgive/overlook in someone else.
Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
"Trent Woodruff" <woodruffs@cableone.net> wrote in message news:425425a1.1951560@news.cableone.net...> >WiNK was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>
you should check out some of the pron that's out there, couples> >> wanting a third, or couples wanting another guy for the wife etc...> >> the one man one woman thing is nice for women, it's the way most women> >> are hard wired. Bill has been a dog for decades, maybe even his whole> >> life, Hillery might have found out early, and accepted it, because she> >> loves him for who he is.>
If that's "love," count me out! >
While I understand entirely what you're saying...remember that real> love does give you the ability to forgive/overlook things that you> might not normally forgive/overlook in someone else.>
Trent> Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger>
There is a big difference between forgiveness and being a doormat. HTH!
Jon Russell <jonruss63tcov@yahoo.com> wrote:> In article <cT243km0IprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net>,> <aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> says...>>> There ain't no love there.>>
This doesn't necessarily follow. Love is without a doubt an irrational>>emotion.>>
This may well be the truest truism ever truly posted.
Love is the most irrational of emotions, matched only by all the other emotions.
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message newsT244090IprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...> WiNK <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> wrote:> >
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message> > news:lT243pakIprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...> >> >
I meant healthy love, of course. heh> >>
I apparently don't have your moral hangups regarding the matter - If
people involved are happy and ***feel*** they are in love, they are -
there> >> are no qualifications on that. Are happy, in-love swingers not really> >> in-love because it isn't "healthy love"?>
Emphasis in your post mine............ very telling. Moral hangups
have> > nothing to do with it.>
Love is but a feeling. If people feel they are in love, they are. That you> place limits on what is "healthy" love and think that your limits should> apply to any relationships other than your own is silly.>
There is no absolute love, just is there is no absolute truth. Love is> whatever those involved in a relationship determine it to be.>
--> Aaron
Spoken like a true, blue-blooded, tree-humpin' liberal.
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message> newsT244090IprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...>> WiNK <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> wrote:>> >
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message>> > news:lT243pakIprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...>> >> >
I meant healthy love, of course. heh>> >>
I apparently don't have your moral hangups regarding the matter - If> the>> >> people involved are happy and ***feel*** they are in love, they are -> and>> > there>> >> are no qualifications on that. Are happy, in-love swingers not really>> >> in-love because it isn't "healthy love"?>>
Emphasis in your post mine............ very telling. Moral hangups> have>> > nothing to do with it.>>
Love is but a feeling. If people feel they are in love, they are. That you>> place limits on what is "healthy" love and think that your limits should>> apply to any relationships other than your own is silly.>>
There is no absolute love, just is there is no absolute truth. Love is>> whatever those involved in a relationship determine it to be.>>
-->> Aaron>
Spoken like a true, blue-blooded, tree-humpin' liberal.
I think you have me confused with someone else... I'm the wacky libertarian constitutionalist.
Love is a choice, not a feeling.
Love is a feeling - the decision to be in love is a choice. The decision to be angry, or jealous, or sad, or any other emotion is also a choice.
In article <poj851pqum51febsie7qr1kmk7pp1qjlaa@4ax.com>, swq22@yahoo.com says...>
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:48:49 GMT, Dennis><drjudsjr@verizon.netSCRAPE.com> wrote:>
you should check out some of the pron that's out there, couples>>wanting a third, or couples wanting another guy for the wife etc...>>the one man one woman thing is nice for women, it's the way most women>>are hard wired. Bill has been a dog for decades>
Who's that NBA player whose wife never leaves him out of her sight ?>
She probably figured out the way of things early on.
WiNK was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>"Trent Woodruff" <woodruffs@cableone.net> wrote in message>>>WiNK was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...
you should check out some of the pron that's out there, couples>>>> wanting a third, or couples wanting another guy for the wife etc...>>>> the one man one woman thing is nice for women, it's the way most women>>>> are hard wired. Bill has been a dog for decades, maybe even his whole>>>> life, Hillery might have found out early, and accepted it, because she>>>> loves him for who he is.
If that's "love," count me out!
While I understand entirely what you're saying...remember that real>> love does give you the ability to forgive/overlook things that you>> might not normally forgive/overlook in someone else.
There is a big difference between forgiveness and being a doormat. HTH!
I agree entirely. And neither of us has any possible way of knowing that he treated his wife like a doormat.
Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
mianderson@students.mcg.edu was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>Trent Woodruff wrote:
No way. My two kids are a senior and a sophomore. I've pissed off>> plenty of teachers.>> For the most part, it's worked as I intended (a wake up call for>> them), but I did have to go see the Superintendent of Schools in>> Florida once because of a teacher taking retribution against my son>> for my comments to her (she even told Tim she was on multiple>> occasions, the idiot).
Parents have this idea that when they complain to an administator the>administrator is usually on their side against the teacher. 97% of the>time that isn't true.
In my experience, it's very true. In fact, in my experience the administrators are overly afraid of getting sued.
It's only true when a real injustice is done.
Uh...well isn't that really all that's important? I mean, if no injustice has been done, who care's which side the administrator is on?
When I taught for a year if parents got pissed off at me it didn't help>their kid at all. It didn't hurt them either. I simply didn't care.
That's probably why you're no longer teaching. And I'm happy to see it, frankly.
Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:48:49 GMT, Dennis <drjudsjr@verizon.netSCRAPE.com> wrote:
you should check out some of the pron that's out there, couples>wanting a third, or couples wanting another guy for the wife etc...>the one man one woman thing is nice for women, it's the way most women>are hard wired. Bill has been a dog for decades
Who's that NBA player whose wife never leaves him out of her sight ?
She probably figured out the way of things early on.
Edward M. Kennedy 7 April 2005 01:24:06 [ permanent link ]
<mianderson@students.mcg.edu> wrote
Why would they vote for someone they dont like?> >
So by inference we can reach the absurd conclusion that> > they liked Clinton?>
that who liked clinton? Blacks? Sure, most did.
Especially the religious ones. They love a two-timing slimeball.
A lot of the people> who voted for clinton, blacks and whites, liked him. More importantly,> the ones that didn't like him still found him preferrable to the other> two guys.
Ding ding ding ding ding ding.
That wouldn't be the case with Rice though because african americans> wouldn't have any reason to ote against a run of the mill white> democrat.
Um...for [insert minority], getting someone elected to higher office is a goal in and of itself (to smash the glass cieling so that others may follow).
mianderson@students.mcg.edu wrote in news:1112809386.615664.134960 @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Matthew Hennig wrote:> Your arguments on here, though, are>> often out in the far left field compared to many of the other>> leftwingnuts.>>
I think I'm certainly to the right of Davis. I'm probably about as> liberal as most of the liberal posters on here. I can't think of one> stance I've ever taken that is to the left of the liberal mainstream.> I even wanted the dems to nominate someone more conservative than Kerry> to win what I felt was an election we would have won with a number of> candidates.
To the right of Jeffery? I'd say that's debateable. And its your expressed hatred and anger that drive you further to the left than say someone like Jon Enslin or Ralph Kennedy (usually) or pseudo-Republican Kallas.
MH
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Edward M. Kennedy 7 April 2005 03:02:02 [ permanent link ]
"mianderson" <clayabc@excite.com> wrote in message news:1112824437.187759.215430@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...>
Edward M. Kennedy wrote:> > > A lot of the people> > > who voted for clinton, blacks and whites, liked him. More> importantly,> > > the ones that didn't like him still found him preferrable to the> other> > > two guys.> >
Ding ding ding ding ding ding.>
And rice or any other conservative, black or white, would be equally as> unappealing.
"*Any* other conservative" indeed. Troll fodder off the starboard bow.
That wouldn't be the case with Rice though because african> americans> > > wouldn't have any reason to ote against a run of the mill white> > > democrat.> >
Um...for [insert minority], getting someone elected to higher> > office is a goal in and of itself (to smash the glass cieling so> > that others may follow).>
I don't neccessarily agree with that. The black establishment doesn't> support Rice now and she is in a very high position.
Now you're an rsfcking expert on the black establishment, whatever you define that to be (or not).
They simply don't> like her or her policies. If they don't support her now as the first> female black sec of state, I don't see why they would support her as> the first female black president.
Are we talking about black women in general, or just Condi? I already said she wasn't a great candidate. And where the hell did president come from? I never said *that*. I said running mate from the get go.
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message news:sT2442scIprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...> WiNK <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> wrote:> >
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message> > newsT244090IprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...> >> WiNK <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> wrote:> >> >
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message> >> > news:lT243pakIprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...> >> >> >
I meant healthy love, of course. heh> >> >>
I apparently don't have your moral hangups regarding the matter - If> > the> >> >> people involved are happy and ***feel*** they are in love, they
are -> > and> >> > there> >> >> are no qualifications on that. Are happy, in-love swingers not really> >> >> in-love because it isn't "healthy love"?> >>
Emphasis in your post mine............ very telling. Moral hangups> > have> >> > nothing to do with it.> >>
Love is but a feeling. If people feel they are in love, they are. That
place limits on what is "healthy" love and think that your limits
should> >> apply to any relationships other than your own is silly.> >>
There is no absolute love, just is there is no absolute truth. Love is> >> whatever those involved in a relationship determine it to be.> >>
--> >> Aaron> >
Spoken like a true, blue-blooded, tree-humpin' liberal. >
I think you have me confused with someone else... I'm the wacky
:>>>> you should check out some of the pron that's out there, couples :>>>> wanting a third, or couples wanting another guy for the wife etc... :>>>> the one man one woman thing is nice for women, it's the way most women :>>>> are hard wired. Bill has been a dog for decades, maybe even his whole :>>>> life, Hillery might have found out early, and accepted it, because she :>>>> loves him for who he is. : :>>>If that's "love," count me out! : :>> While I understand entirely what you're saying...remember that real :>> love does give you the ability to forgive/overlook things that you :>> might not normally forgive/overlook in someone else. : :>There is a big difference between forgiveness and being a doormat. HTH! : :I agree entirely. And neither of us has any possible way of knowing :that he treated his wife like a doormat.
DING!!!!!!!!!!
-- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com
"There ain't nothing wrong a few cold beers can't iron out in fact, you tell me just when and where, and I'll buy the first round"
: And I'm happy to see :> it, frankly. : ? If you such a low opinion of me, you feel better about me otentially treating patients than teaching people physics?
I suspect it's more a matter of Trent not wanting teachers teaching who don't care. If I'm right on his thinking, I agree with him.
-- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com
"There ain't nothing wrong a few cold beers can't iron out in fact, you tell me just when and where, and I'll buy the first round"
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message news:sT2442scIprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...> WiNK <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> wrote:> >
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message> > newsT244090IprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...> >> WiNK <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> wrote:> >> >
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message> >> > news:lT243pakIprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...> >> >> >
I meant healthy love, of course. heh> >> >>
I apparently don't have your moral hangups regarding the matter - If> > the> >> >> people involved are happy and ***feel*** they are in love, they
are -> > and> >> > there> >> >> are no qualifications on that. Are happy, in-love swingers not really> >> >> in-love because it isn't "healthy love"?> >>
Emphasis in your post mine............ very telling. Moral hangups> > have> >> > nothing to do with it.> >>
Love is but a feeling. If people feel they are in love, they are. That
place limits on what is "healthy" love and think that your limits
should> >> apply to any relationships other than your own is silly.> >>
There is no absolute love, just is there is no absolute truth. Love is> >> whatever those involved in a relationship determine it to be.> >>
--> >> Aaron> >
Spoken like a true, blue-blooded, tree-humpin' liberal. >
I think you have me confused with someone else... I'm the wacky
libertarian> constitutionalist.>
Love is a choice, not a feeling.>
Love is a feeling - the decision to be in love is a choice.
This is sooooo not true. I've had it where there was no choice whatsoever. Not to be crass, but I wonder if people who write stuff like the above have ever really, and I mean really, been there.
The decision to> be angry, or jealous, or sad, or any other emotion is also a choice.>
"Bill Lang" <wjlmutt@bitememindspring.com> wrote in message news:Xns962FB26DB9654bungalobill@199.45.49.11...> You want an explanation, ? Here's your explanation. God is> Pissed.>
Jim Brown wrote:> >> >
If I ever have a daughter and she manages to do those things,> >> > I'd> > be> >> > extremely proud of her.> >>
Well dumas, I am having a daughter here in a few weeks, and she> >> can accomplish much much less and I'll still be extremely proud> >> of her.> > And I'm> >> a Republican.> >>
Where the heck did I imply that such lofty accomplishents would> > be the standard and that anything short of that would result in> > me not being proud of her? Nowhere.> >
But at the same time, mediocrity will not be rewarded in any> > way, shape, or form. Short of being born with 47 chromosomes> > or FAS, excellence will be the expected standard from any of my> > daughters.> >
Get accustomed to disappointment.
You can sure tell when someone has not crossed that bridge.
swq22@yahoo.com You're digging it round, when it aughta Be SQUARE
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:48:49 GMT, Dennis><drjudsjr@verizon.netSCRAPE.com> wrote:>
you should check out some of the pron that's out there, couples>>wanting a third, or couples wanting another guy for the wife etc...>>the one man one woman thing is nice for women, it's the way most women>>are hard wired. Bill has been a dog for decades>
Who's that NBA player whose wife never leaves him out of her sight ?>
She probably figured out the way of things early on.
probably, and if it works for them more power to 'em.
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Charles Beauchamp 7 April 2005 11:30:00 [ permanent link ]
aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net wrote:> Love is a feeling - the decision to be in love is a choice. The> decision to be angry, or jealous, or sad, or any other emotion is> also a choice.
Wrong.
-- v/r Beau
The Voom!!! It went Voom!!! And Oh....What a Voom!!!
mianderson was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>Trent Woodruff wrote:
Parents have this idea that when they complain to an administator>>>the administrator is usually on their side against the teacher. 97% of>>>the time that isn't true.
In my experience, it's very true.
Which is what...3 or 4 experiences? And in your case you might have>had a very valid point in which a teacher in question actually was way>out of line.
I like to think so, but I'm probably a little biased. <grin>
In fact, in my experience the>> administrators are overly afraid of getting sued.
Well yeah, but they have to be. In most teacher/parent disputes there>is no threat of damages that lead to a lawsuit though.
In this day and age, a freaking insult can almost lead to a lawsuit. It's really ridiculous (don't get me off on THAT tangent...).
It's only true when a real injustice is done.
Uh...well isn't that really all that's important? I mean, if no>> injustice has been done, who care's which side the administrator is>> on?
A lot of the time a parent feels a real injustice is done when one>hasn't been.
I don't think so. Most of the time, a parent is trying to use an incident as a wedge to gain an advantage for their child. At least, that's what I see. In those instances, a parent doesn't honestly think a real injustice has been done, I don't believe.
When I taught for a year if parents got pissed off at me it didn't>>>help their kid at all. It didn't hurt them either. I simply didn't>>>care.
That's probably why you're no longer teaching.
After college I knew I was going to teach 1 year and leave. That's>what I did. The fact I didn't take every single complaint from a>parent seriously had nothing to do with anything.
If you're not going to take the complaint seriously, you have no business being in that position. Period.
And I'm happy to see it, frankly.
?? If you such a low opinion of me, you feel better about me>potentially treating patients than teaching people physics?
If you take your patients with as little seriousness as you did your students' parents, you won't be doing that very long either.
Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
"Trent Woodruff" <woodruffs@cableone.net> wrote in message news:4254e83d.1405717@news.cableone.net...> >Charles Beauchamp was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...> >>aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net wrote:>
Love is a feeling - the decision to be in love is a choice. The> >> decision to be angry, or jealous, or sad, or any other emotion is> >> also a choice.>
Wrong.>
Aaron is absolutely correct, actually.>
The only people who would agree with you are those who similarly> cannot control their emotions.
Having an emotion is one thing. Whether one controls it or not is quite another. I have been angry, jealous and sad and noone knew it but me. Thats what the control part is about. If you guys think its a choice to fall in love, then you truly never have.>
Trent> Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger>
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message> news:sT2442scIprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...>> WiNK <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> wrote:>> >
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message>> > newsT244090IprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...>> >> WiNK <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> wrote:>> >> >
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message>> >> > news:lT243pakIprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...>> >> >> >
I meant healthy love, of course. heh>> >> >>
I apparently don't have your moral hangups regarding the matter - If>> > the>> >> >> people involved are happy and ***feel*** they are in love, they> are ->> > and>> >> > there>> >> >> are no qualifications on that. Are happy, in-love swingers not> really>> >> >> in-love because it isn't "healthy love"?>> >>
Emphasis in your post mine............ very telling. Moral hangups>> > have>> >> > nothing to do with it.>> >>
Love is but a feeling. If people feel they are in love, they are. That> you>> >> place limits on what is "healthy" love and think that your limits> should>> >> apply to any relationships other than your own is silly.>> >>
There is no absolute love, just is there is no absolute truth. Love is>> >> whatever those involved in a relationship determine it to be.>> >>
-->> >> Aaron>> >
Spoken like a true, blue-blooded, tree-humpin' liberal. >>
I think you have me confused with someone else... I'm the wacky> libertarian>> constitutionalist.>>
Love is a choice, not a feeling.>>
Love is a feeling - the decision to be in love is a choice.>
This is sooooo not true. I've had it where there was no choice whatsoever.> Not to be crass, but I wonder if people who write stuff like the above have> ever really, and I mean really, been there.
You feel an emotion - you choose to allow that feeling to continue, whether it be love, anger, jealousy, stress...
Charles Beauchamp <C.E.Beauchamp@nospamcomcast.net> wrote:> aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net wrote:>> Love is a feeling - the decision to be in love is a choice. The>> decision to be angry, or jealous, or sad, or any other emotion is>> also a choice.>
Wrong.
That choice may be subconcious, but it is still a choice.
Trent Woodruff <woodruffs@cableone.net> wrote:>>mianderson@students.mcg.edu was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>Trent Woodruff wrote:>
No way. My two kids are a senior and a sophomore. I've pissed off>>> plenty of teachers.>>> For the most part, it's worked as I intended (a wake up call for>>> them), but I did have to go see the Superintendent of Schools in>>> Florida once because of a teacher taking retribution against my son>>> for my comments to her (she even told Tim she was on multiple>>> occasions, the idiot).>
Parents have this idea that when they complain to an administator the>>administrator is usually on their side against the teacher. 97% of the>>time that isn't true.>
In my experience, it's very true. In fact, in my experience the> administrators are overly afraid of getting sued.>
It's only true when a real injustice is done.>
Uh...well isn't that really all that's important? I mean, if no> injustice has been done, who care's which side the administrator is> on?
What percentage of parent visits to administrators involve real injustices? 1% maybe 2%? Most parents who complain to administrators are big whiners with no real leg to stand on. Look at the whole "red ink" issue.
mianderson@students.mcg.edu was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>Trent Woodruff wrote:>>>Bryan S. Slick was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>>>[mianderson (clayabc@excite.com)]
And I'm happy to see it, frankly.
?? If you such a low opinion of me, you feel better about me>>>>potentially treating patients than teaching people physics?
I suspect it's more a matter of Trent not wanting teachers teaching>>>who don't care. If I'm right on his thinking, I agree with him.
In fact, as an educator myself, I find it quite insulting.
It's not a matter of not caring. And it's not a matter of not caring>about parental involvement in general. It is a matter of not caring>about every little complaint in every situation from parents.
That's my point...you should!
While I can certainly understand how it would be a pain to have to bother with them, you should be taking every little complaint in every situation from parents seriously.
When you start not taking them seriously is when someone ends up sued because a serious problem was overlooked.
Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message news:4T24685oIdslN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...> Jim Brown <jimbo@wells.net> wrote:>>
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message>> news:sT2442scIprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...>>> WiNK <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> wrote:>>> >
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message>>> > newsT244090IprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...>>> >> WiNK <elvistcb13@yahoo.com> wrote:>>> >> >
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message>>> >> > news:lT243pakIprmN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...>>> >> >> >
I meant healthy love, of course. heh>>> >> >>
I apparently don't have your moral hangups regarding the matter - >>> >> >> If>>> > the>>> >> >> people involved are happy and ***feel*** they are in love, they>> are ->>> > and>>> >> > there>>> >> >> are no qualifications on that. Are happy, in-love swingers not>> really>>> >> >> in-love because it isn't "healthy love"?>>> >>
Emphasis in your post mine............ very telling. Moral >>> >> > hangups>>> > have>>> >> > nothing to do with it.>>> >>
Love is but a feeling. If people feel they are in love, they are. >>> >> That>> you>>> >> place limits on what is "healthy" love and think that your limits>> should>>> >> apply to any relationships other than your own is silly.>>> >>
There is no absolute love, just is there is no absolute truth. Love >>> >> is>>> >> whatever those involved in a relationship determine it to be.>>> >>
-->>> >> Aaron>>> >
Spoken like a true, blue-blooded, tree-humpin' liberal. >>>
I think you have me confused with someone else... I'm the wacky>> libertarian>>> constitutionalist.>>>
Love is a choice, not a feeling.>>>
Love is a feeling - the decision to be in love is a choice.>>
This is sooooo not true. I've had it where there was no choice >> whatsoever.>> Not to be crass, but I wonder if people who write stuff like the above >> have>> ever really, and I mean really, been there.>
You feel an emotion - you choose to allow that feeling to continue, > whether> it be love, anger, jealousy, stress...
Love is a feeling - the decision to be in love is a choice.>
This is sooooo not true. I've had it where there was no choice whatsoever.>Not to be crass, but I wonder if people who write stuff like the above have>ever really, and I mean really, been there.
I'm inclined to agree with Jim here...just from my own experience and from reading countless paeans to love and hearing countless songs about it and seeing numerous lame movies about it.....love is a mystery whose spell we fall under and do stupid things in the name of....it confuses and confounds and rewards....it has many layers and nuances....it can be utterly painful when it hurts...but there is no sweeter love that you feel when you hold your child in your arms...and *that* is not a choice
Andrew Smith <anla@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote:> <aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message >>>> > Love is a choice, not a feeling.>>>>
Love is a feeling - the decision to be in love is a choice.>>>
This is sooooo not true. I've had it where there was no choice >>> whatsoever.>>> Not to be crass, but I wonder if people who write stuff like the above >>> have>>> ever really, and I mean really, been there.>>
You feel an emotion - you choose to allow that feeling to continue, >> whether>> it be love, anger, jealousy, stress...>
You talk a good game.>
Do you love your kids?
Yes. Could I choose to stop - I do not know, but my weakness changes not a whit the fact that this is a choice.
Jon Russell <jonruss63tcov@yahoo.com> wrote:> On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:05:40 -0500, "Jim Brown" <jimbo@wells.net>> wrote:>
Love is a choice, not a feeling.>>>
Love is a feeling - the decision to be in love is a choice.>>
This is sooooo not true. I've had it where there was no choice whatsoever.>>Not to be crass, but I wonder if people who write stuff like the above have>>ever really, and I mean really, been there.>
I'm inclined to agree with Jim here...just from my own experience and> from reading countless paeans to love and hearing countless songs> about it and seeing numerous lame movies about it.....love is a> mystery whose spell we fall under and do stupid things in the name> of....it confuses and confounds and rewards....it has many layers and> nuances....it can be utterly painful when it hurts...but there is no> sweeter love that you feel when you hold your child in your arms...and> *that* is not a choice
On 5 Apr 2005 14:27:43 -0700, mianderson@students.mcg.edu wrote:
Jim Brown wrote:>> >
If I ever have a daughter and she manages to do those things, I'd>be>> > extremely proud of her.>>
Well dumas, I am having a daughter here in a few weeks, and she can>> accomplish much much less and I'll still be extremely proud of her.>And I'm>> a Republican.>>
Where the heck did I imply that such lofty accomplishents would be the>standard and that anything short of that would result in me not being>proud of her? Nowhere.>
But at the same time, mediocrity will not be rewarded in any way,>shape, or form. Short of being born with 47 chromosomes or FAS,>excellence will be the expected standard from any of my daughters.
On 7 Apr 2005 09:15:24 -0700, mianderson@students.mcg.edu wrote:
Trent Woodruff wrote:>> >Bryan S. Slick was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>> >>[mianderson (clayabc@excite.com)]>>
And I'm happy to see it, frankly.>>
?? If you such a low opinion of me, you feel better about me>> >>potentially treating patients than teaching people physics?>>
I suspect it's more a matter of Trent not wanting teachers teaching>who>> >don't care. If I'm right on his thinking, I agree with him.>>
In fact, as an educator myself, I find it quite insulting.>
It's not a matter of not caring. And it's not a matter of not caring>about parental involvement in general. It is a matter of not caring>about every little complaint in every situation from parents.
Probably time for you to drop the doctor plan and go into traffic accident scamming full time.
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message news:1T248vl5ImsnN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...> Andrew Smith <anla@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote:>> <aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message>>>>> > Love is a choice, not a feeling.>>>>>
Love is a feeling - the decision to be in love is a choice.>>>>
This is sooooo not true. I've had it where there was no choice>>>> whatsoever.>>>> Not to be crass, but I wonder if people who write stuff like the above>>>> have>>>> ever really, and I mean really, been there.>>>
You feel an emotion - you choose to allow that feeling to continue,>>> whether>>> it be love, anger, jealousy, stress...>>
You talk a good game.>>
Do you love your kids?>
Yes. Could I choose to stop - I do not know, but my weakness changes not a> whit the fact that this is a choice.
You just said you don't know and you do know in the same sentence.
Andrew Smith <anla@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote:> <aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message > news:1T248vl5ImsnN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...>> Andrew Smith <anla@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote:>>> <aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message>>>>>> > Love is a choice, not a feeling.>>>>>>
Love is a feeling - the decision to be in love is a choice.>>>>>
This is sooooo not true. I've had it where there was no choice>>>>> whatsoever.>>>>> Not to be crass, but I wonder if people who write stuff like the above>>>>> have>>>>> ever really, and I mean really, been there.>>>>
You feel an emotion - you choose to allow that feeling to continue,>>>> whether>>>> it be love, anger, jealousy, stress...>>>
You talk a good game.>>>
Do you love your kids?>>
Yes. Could I choose to stop - I do not know, but my weakness changes not a>> whit the fact that this is a choice.>
You just said you don't know and you do know in the same sentence.
I do know I love my kid. I don't know if I could stop. You seem to be having some parsing issues.
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message news:3T24gr36I2f0N3l@redshark.goodshow.net...> Andrew Smith <anla@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote:>> <aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message>> news:1T248vl5ImsnN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...>>> Andrew Smith <anla@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote:>>>> <aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message>>>>>>> > Love is a choice, not a feeling.>>>>>>>
Love is a feeling - the decision to be in love is a choice.>>>>>>
This is sooooo not true. I've had it where there was no choice>>>>>> whatsoever.>>>>>> Not to be crass, but I wonder if people who write stuff like the >>>>>> above>>>>>> have>>>>>> ever really, and I mean really, been there.>>>>>
You feel an emotion - you choose to allow that feeling to continue,>>>>> whether>>>>> it be love, anger, jealousy, stress...>>>>
You talk a good game.>>>>
Do you love your kids?>>>
Yes. Could I choose to stop - I do not know, but my weakness changes not >>> a>>> whit the fact that this is a choice.>>
You just said you don't know and you do know in the same sentence.>
I do know I love my kid. I don't know if I could stop. You seem to be > having> some parsing issues.
You seem to have some short term memory loss.
"You feel an emotion - you choose to allow that feeling to continue"
Andrew Smith <anla@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote:> <aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message > news:3T24gr36I2f0N3l@redshark.goodshow.net...>> Andrew Smith <anla@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote:>>> <aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message>>> news:1T248vl5ImsnN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...>>>> Andrew Smith <anla@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote:>>>>> <aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message>>>>>>>> > Love is a choice, not a feeling.>>>>>>>>
Love is a feeling - the decision to be in love is a choice.>>>>>>>
This is sooooo not true. I've had it where there was no choice>>>>>>> whatsoever.>>>>>>> Not to be crass, but I wonder if people who write stuff like the >>>>>>> above>>>>>>> have>>>>>>> ever really, and I mean really, been there.>>>>>>
You feel an emotion - you choose to allow that feeling to continue,>>>>>> whether>>>>>> it be love, anger, jealousy, stress...>>>>>
You talk a good game.>>>>>
Do you love your kids?>>>>
Yes. Could I choose to stop - I do not know, but my weakness changes not >>>> a>>>> whit the fact that this is a choice.>>>
You just said you don't know and you do know in the same sentence.>>
I do know I love my kid. I don't know if I could stop. You seem to be >> having>> some parsing issues.>
You seem to have some short term memory loss.>
"You feel an emotion - you choose to allow that feeling to continue"
You choose - that choice could be concious OR subconcious.
"Could I choose to stop - I do not know"
An alcoholic can't choose to stop drinking. That doesn't mean it isn't a choice.
<aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message news:1T24j5opIogcN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...> Andrew Smith <anla@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote:>> <aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message>> news:3T24gr36I2f0N3l@redshark.goodshow.net...>>> Andrew Smith <anla@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote:>>>> <aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message>>>> news:1T248vl5ImsnN3l@redshark.goodshow.net...>>>>> Andrew Smith <anla@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote:>>>>>> <aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net> wrote in message>>>>>>>>> > Love is a choice, not a feeling.>>>>>>>>>
Love is a feeling - the decision to be in love is a choice.>>>>>>>>
This is sooooo not true. I've had it where there was no choice>>>>>>>> whatsoever.>>>>>>>> Not to be crass, but I wonder if people who write stuff like the>>>>>>>> above>>>>>>>> have>>>>>>>> ever really, and I mean really, been there.>>>>>>>
You feel an emotion - you choose to allow that feeling to continue,>>>>>>> whether>>>>>>> it be love, anger, jealousy, stress...>>>>>>
You talk a good game.>>>>>>
Do you love your kids?>>>>>
Yes. Could I choose to stop - I do not know, but my weakness changes >>>>> not>>>>> a>>>>> whit the fact that this is a choice.>>>>
You just said you don't know and you do know in the same sentence.>>>
I do know I love my kid. I don't know if I could stop. You seem to be>>> having>>> some parsing issues.>>
You seem to have some short term memory loss.>>
"You feel an emotion - you choose to allow that feeling to continue">
You choose - that choice could be concious OR subconcious.>
"Could I choose to stop - I do not know">
An alcoholic can't choose to stop drinking. That doesn't mean it isn't a> choice.
