Matthew Hennig 25 February 2005 08:05:52 [ permanent link ]
kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) wrote in news:ICFxy3.6vJ@asuvax.eas.asu.edu:
dunric@yahoo.com writes:>> Here's a bit more about what happened to me:>>
In late-January, I was given an injection of Prolixin (a neuroleptic)>> and it was a long-lasting variety that is a slow release into the>> blood stream.>>
At first, nothing noticeable happened with my muscles, but then they>> soon stiffened up and I couldn't do even the simple things (e.g. like>> walking, range of motion, eating, etc.)>>
Eventually, my mom became concerned and took me into the ER. I was>> then given IV fluids and Benadryl to help with the rigidity>> (something they termed 'dystonia').>>
For a few days afterwards, it seemed okay. I even went out to Tempe>> and spent time out there (shopping, food, etc).>>
But then the Prolixin shot had other ideas, and I was soon>> incapacitated yet again. It got so bad that I would drool and shake>> all over. I couldn't eat without drooling. It was like Parkenson's>> (sp?) disease, or so they termed it.>>
I was then taken to the hospital and spent 3 1/2 days in the>> intensive care unit (ICU). It wasn't a fun experience, as I layed in>> bed and couldn't even feed myself. I felt humiliated and ill.>>
Eventually I got to the point where I could sort of feed myself, and>> finally they had physical therapy come out and help me to walk (with>> the aide of a walker).>>
I was released last week and healed enough to be able to both feed>> myself and walk without a walker. Now I am pretty much back to normal>> (other than brief periods of rigidness in my muscles, causing my arms>> to be postured funny when I walk).>>
They gave me exercises to do to relieve the arm stiffness (so it>> wouldn't look so funny when I walked). My mom even suggested I walk>> with my hands in my pockets, so that I could get used to keeping them>> down when I walked.>>
On occasion, my arms feel tired, but I try to keep them nimble>> through typing exercises on the computer and relaxation techniques.>>
This takes me up to today, when I went on several errands with me mom>> while the cleaning ladies cleaned her house. I should be well enough>> in a day or so to go back to my house (my mom wanted to keep me at>> her house while I got better, e.g. to monitor my symptoms).>
What do you think, Hennig? Does he have> a good malpractice case? WHFI? (Would Hennig> fear it?)
Sorry, I'm a real doctor, not a shrink.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Matthew Hennig 25 February 2005 08:07:34 [ permanent link ]
kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) wrote in news:ICG0Cr.82J@asuvax.eas.asu.edu:
dunric@yahoo.com writes:>> Wasn't the fault of the doctor. He knew the side effects>> (if any) were a very low percentage. Unfortunately, I was>> one of the few cases where such side effects occured.>
The same low percentage could be said of> penicillin reaction. But doesn't the prudent doctor> first ask the patient if he is allergic to penicillin> before prescribing? And if the patient doesn't know,> doesn't the doctor either prescribe something different,> or else run a sensitivity test, or at least give the> patient a tiny dose first, instead of a massive> time-release one that would augment any ill effects> in both intensity and duration?>
Hennig?
You can't just give someone a 'tiny dose' of a medication to test for allergies. In some people, even a tiny dose could kill them. Its a risk you have to take with a new medication. If the penicillin allergy is not positive and the infection calls for penicillin, the drug is given. To test everyone for allergies is not cost effective or treatment effective.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
Matthew Hennig 25 February 2005 09:17:48 [ permanent link ]
kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) wrote in news:ICG9zo.C6r@asuvax.eas.asu.edu:
Matthew Hennig <matth@aggies.No_JuNk.com> writes:>> kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) wrote:>> > dunric@yahoo.com writes:>> >> Wasn't the fault of the doctor. He knew the side effects>> >> (if any) were a very low percentage. Unfortunately, I was>> >> one of the few cases where such side effects occured.>> >
The same low percentage could be said of>> > penicillin reaction. But doesn't the prudent doctor>> > first ask the patient if he is allergic to penicillin>> > before prescribing? And if the patient doesn't know,>> > doesn't the doctor either prescribe something different,>> > or else run a sensitivity test, or at least give the>> > patient a tiny dose first, instead of a massive>> > time-release one that would augment any ill effects>> > in both intensity and duration?>> >
Hennig?>>
You can't just give someone a 'tiny dose' of a medication to test for>> allergies. In some people, even a tiny dose could kill them.>
Yes, but in this case, the patient was starting to> recover when the time-release kicked in and zonked him> again even harder, since it was a second allergic> reaction. So it seems to me that the doctor could have > at least given the first dose as only a one-time-type> dose, instead of using the time-release-dose option,> and when the patient took that okay, then gone on to> the time-release dose thereafter. Or is that medication> only available in time-release? I doubt it.
Of course, that would require you to take everything Panks says at face value. Any medication that I've prescribed that comes as a timed release, the patient has generally been on the short acting version first. I'm not familiar with the above listed medication, though, or the situation it was given in, so its hard to know.
MH
-- Ten of Spades Aggee Fedayeen Chief Supreme Ruler of the Obvious
"We just got outplayed today. That's the bottom line. And we got outcoached." - OU Head Coach Bob Stoops following the Texas A&M game, Nov 9, 2002
dunric@yahoo.com wrote:> Here's a bit more about what happened to me:>
In late-January, I was given an injection of Prolixin (a neuroleptic)> and it was a long-lasting variety that is a slow release into the
blood> stream.>
At first, nothing noticeable happened with my muscles, but then they> soon stiffened up and I couldn't do even the simple things (e.g. like> walking, range of motion, eating, etc.)>
Eventually, my mom became concerned and took me into the ER. I was
then> given IV fluids and Benadryl to help with the rigidity (something they> termed 'dystonia').>
For a few days afterwards, it seemed okay. I even went out to Tempe
spent time out there (shopping, food, etc).>
But then the Prolixin shot had other ideas, and I was soon> incapacitated yet again. It got so bad that I would drool and shake
over. I couldn't eat without drooling. It was like Parkenson's (sp?)> disease, or so they termed it.>
I was then taken to the hospital and spent 3 1/2 days in the
intensive> care unit (ICU). It wasn't a fun experience, as I layed in bed and> couldn't even feed myself. I felt humiliated and ill.>
Eventually I got to the point where I could sort of feed myself, and> finally they had physical therapy come out and help me to walk (with> the aide of a walker).>
I was released last week and healed enough to be able to both feed> myself and walk without a walker. Now I am pretty much back to normal> (other than brief periods of rigidness in my muscles, causing my arms> to be postured funny when I walk).>
They gave me exercises to do to relieve the arm stiffness (so it> wouldn't look so funny when I walked). My mom even suggested I walk> with my hands in my pockets, so that I could get used to keeping them> down when I walked.>
On occasion, my arms feel tired, but I try to keep them nimble
through> typing exercises on the computer and relaxation techniques.>
This takes me up to today, when I went on several errands with me mom> while the cleaning ladies cleaned her house. I should be well enough
a day or so to go back to my house (my mom wanted to keep me at her> house while I got better, e.g. to monitor my symptoms).>
I'll post an update in a few days to let everyone know how I am> progressing. Thanks again for all the words of encouragement from> everybody. >
Sincerely,>
Paul
You live with your *mom*?
Greg Reeves
"There's nothing wrong with shooting, just as long as the right people get shot." -- Inspector Harry Callahan San Francisco PD
