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FooAtari 25 September 2005 21:39:37
 
Well Done Alonso!!! Great Season (for you, not for F1 as a whole), Great
Champion. And did he look happy :-)­
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FooAtari 25 September 2005 21:56:06 permanent link ]
 MRVASECTOMY@gmail.co­m wrote in news:1127674092.772­269.132160
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He did a hell of a job!! There's always next year for Kimi, bit I said> that last year. Anyhoo, Schumy ain't there so I'm happy!> ROB>

He did do a great job. Made a great start to the year and was consistent
throughout. He is clearly able to cope with any pressure thrown at him and
is a worthy champion.

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Allan Mooney 26 September 2005 00:43:29 permanent link ]
 Congratulations to Fernando Alonso and everyone at Renault (and their fans)
on a job well done

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RzR 26 September 2005 01:34:05 permanent link ]
 In article <Xns96DCCACF74C4ali­stairfraser81gmai@13­0.133.1.4>,
alistair.fraser81@g­mail.com says...> MRVASECTOMY@gmail.c­om wrote in news:1127674092.772­269.132160> @g47g2000cwa.google­groups.com:>
He did a hell of a job!! There's always next year for Kimi, bit I said> > that last year. Anyhoo, Schumy ain't there so I'm happy!> > ROB> >
He did do a great job. Made a great start to the year and was consistent > throughout. He is clearly able to cope with any pressure thrown at him and > is a worthy champion.>

what pressure? to come in 3rd every race in the second part of the
season?...surely you dont mean pressure from fisichella, bar, ferrari or
toyota? :)­
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Claude Bersano 26 September 2005 03:06:36 permanent link ]
 "RzR" <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ wrote in message
news:MPG.1da14445f4­cc3f2c9898e5@news.ht­net.hr...
what pressure? to come in 3rd every race in the second part of the> season?...surely you dont mean pressure from fisichella, bar, ferrari or> toyota? :)­

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was a fellow named Keke Rosberg who also
became world champ without winning a single race.

Probably before your time...

Cheers, Cl.


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RzR 26 September 2005 04:04:20 permanent link ]
 In article <boGdne1bd5tQp6reRV­n-3Q@comcast.com>, clbersano@comcast.n­et
says...> "RzR" <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ wrote in message> news:MPG.1da14445f4­cc3f2c9898e5@news.ht­net.hr...>
what pressure? to come in 3rd every race in the second part of the> > season?...surely you dont mean pressure from fisichella, bar, ferrari or> > toyota? :)­>
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was a fellow named Keke Rosberg who also> became world champ without winning a single race.>
Probably before your time...>

ok...so he was lucky all the crap happened to fisichella, and that any
other team besides mclaren couldnt come close to renaults pace...i
wouldnt really call that pressure
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Noone 26 September 2005 08:30:11 permanent link ]
 In article <boGdne1bd5tQp6reRV­n-3Q@comcast.com>, clbersano@comcast.n­et
says...> "RzR" <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ wrote in message> news:MPG.1da14445f4­cc3f2c9898e5@news.ht­net.hr...>
what pressure? to come in 3rd every race in the second part of the> > season?...surely you dont mean pressure from fisichella, bar, ferrari or> > toyota? :)­>
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was a fellow named Keke Rosberg who also> became world champ without winning a single race.>
Probably before your time...>
Cheers, Cl.>
You are wrong. Keke won a race.
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Richard Miller 26 September 2005 10:16:40 permanent link ]
 In message <MPG.1da14445f4cc3f­2c9898e5@news.htnet.­hr>, RzR
<2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ writes>In article <Xns96DCCACF74C4ali­stairfraser81gmai@13­0.133.1.4>,>alistair­.fraser81@gmail.com says...>> MRVASECTOMY@gmail.c­om wrote in news:1127674092.772­269.132160>> @g47g2000cwa.google­groups.com:>>
He did a hell of a job!! There's always next year for Kimi, bit I said>> > that last year. Anyhoo, Schumy ain't there so I'm happy!>> > ROB>> >
He did do a great job. Made a great start to the year and was consistent>> throughout. He is clearly able to cope with any pressure thrown at him and>> is a worthy champion.>>
what pressure? to come in 3rd every race in the second part of the>season?...surel­y you dont mean pressure from fisichella, bar, ferrari or>toyota? :)­

The pressure of maintaining that third place week in week out, knowing
he had little chance of another win after his great run at the start of
the season and knowing that any failure to finish third would screw his
chances. The pressure to deliver a flawless performance in race and
qualifying every single time.

And he did it. A worthy champion indeed.
--
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Paul-B 26 September 2005 10:40:53 permanent link ]
 Richard Miller wrote:
In message <MPG.1da14445f4cc3f­2c9898e5@news.htnet.­hr>, RzR> <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ writes> > In article <Xns96DCCACF74C4ali­stairfraser81gmai@13­0.133.1.4>,> > alistair.fraser81@g­mail.com says...> > > MRVASECTOMY@gmail.c­om wrote in news:1127674092.772­269.132160> > > @g47g2000cwa.google­groups.com:> > >
He did a hell of a job!! There's always next year for Kimi, bit I> said >>> that last year. Anyhoo, Schumy ain't there so I'm happy!> >>> ROB> > > >
He did do a great job. Made a great start to the year and was> > > consistent throughout. He is clearly able to cope with any> > > pressure thrown at him and is a worthy champion.> > >
what pressure? to come in 3rd every race in the second part of the> > season?...surely you dont mean pressure from fisichella, bar,> > ferrari or toyota? :)­>
The pressure of maintaining that third place week in week out,> knowing he had little chance of another win after his great run at> the start of the season and knowing that any failure to finish third> would screw his chances. The pressure to deliver a flawless> performance in race and qualifying every single time.>
And he did it. A worthy champion indeed.

Yep, Alonso thoroughly deserves the DWC. It's great to have a clean,
honest holder once again. The last two races should be pretty good,
too, with McLaren having everything to race for in the WCC, JPM and
Kimi on top form and Flav having to back *both* of his drivers to keep
McLaren behind.

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RzR 26 September 2005 14:14:51 permanent link ]
 In article <3ppn04FbkbqiU1@ind­ividual.net>, paul@null.invalid.c­om
says...> Richard Miller wrote:>
In message <MPG.1da14445f4cc3f­2c9898e5@news.htnet.­hr>, RzR> > <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ writes> > > In article <Xns96DCCACF74C4ali­stairfraser81gmai@13­0.133.1.4>,> > > alistair.fraser81@g­mail.com says...> > > > MRVASECTOMY@gmail.c­om wrote in news:1127674092.772­269.132160> > > > @g47g2000cwa.google­groups.com:> > > >
He did a hell of a job!! There's always next year for Kimi, bit I> > said >>> that last year. Anyhoo, Schumy ain't there so I'm happy!> > >>> ROB> > > > >
He did do a great job. Made a great start to the year and was> > > > consistent throughout. He is clearly able to cope with any> > > > pressure thrown at him and is a worthy champion.> > > >
what pressure? to come in 3rd every race in the second part of the> > > season?...surely you dont mean pressure from fisichella, bar,> > > ferrari or toyota? :)­> >
The pressure of maintaining that third place week in week out,> > knowing he had little chance of another win after his great run at> > the start of the season and knowing that any failure to finish third> > would screw his chances. The pressure to deliver a flawless> > performance in race and qualifying every single time.> >
And he did it. A worthy champion indeed.>
Yep, Alonso thoroughly deserves the DWC. It's great to have a clean,> honest holder once again. The last two races should be pretty good,> too, with McLaren having everything to race for in the WCC, JPM and> Kimi on top form and Flav having to back *both* of his drivers to keep> McLaren behind.>


didn't they (alonso) say already that thay are going for a win in
brazil, and then renault only lagged 30 sec behing mclarens...alonso won
the wdc, but there will be no french or spanish anthems until the end :)­
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RzR 26 September 2005 14:16:21 permanent link ]
 In article <9oUIqzSYB6NDFwbv@s­easalter0.demon.co.u­k>,
richard@seasalter0.­demon.co.uk says...> In message <MPG.1da14445f4cc3f­2c9898e5@news.htnet.­hr>, RzR > <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ writes> >In article <Xns96DCCACF74C4ali­stairfraser81gmai@13­0.133.1.4>,> >alistair.fraser81@­gmail.com says...> >> MRVASECTOMY@gmail.c­om wrote in news:1127674092.772­269.132160> >> @g47g2000cwa.google­groups.com:> >>
He did a hell of a job!! There's always next year for Kimi, bit I said> >> > that last year. Anyhoo, Schumy ain't there so I'm happy!> >> > ROB> >> >
He did do a great job. Made a great start to the year and was consistent> >> throughout. He is clearly able to cope with any pressure thrown at him and> >> is a worthy champion.> >>
what pressure? to come in 3rd every race in the second part of the> >season?...surely you dont mean pressure from fisichella, bar, ferrari or> >toyota? :)­>
The pressure of maintaining that third place week in week out, knowing > he had little chance of another win after his great run at the start of > the season and knowing that any failure to finish third would screw his > chances. The pressure to deliver a flawless performance in race and > qualifying every single time.>
And he did it. A worthy champion indeed.>

hmmm...i can put anything down that any F1 (or wider) driver could have
drove tha last 6-7 races like alonso with their eyes closed...cmon he
was letting redbulls pass him
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Richard Miller 26 September 2005 21:24:19 permanent link ]
 In message <MPG.1da1f6f34a20eb­839898eb@news.htnet.­hr>, RzR
<2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ writes>In article <9oUIqzSYB6NDFwbv@s­easalter0.demon.co.u­k>,>richard@seasalte­r0.demon.co.uk says...>> In message <MPG.1da14445f4cc3f­2c9898e5@news.htnet.­hr>, RzR>> <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ writes>> >
what pressure? to come in 3rd every race in the second part of the>> >season?...surely you dont mean pressure from fisichella, bar, ferrari or>> >toyota? :)­>>
The pressure of maintaining that third place week in week out, knowing>> he had little chance of another win after his great run at the start of>> the season and knowing that any failure to finish third would screw his>> chances. The pressure to deliver a flawless performance in race and>> qualifying every single time.>>
And he did it. A worthy champion indeed.>>
hmmm...i can put anything down that any F1 (or wider) driver could have>drove tha last 6-7 races like alonso with their eyes closed...cmon he>was letting redbulls pass him>

Even if that were the case, which I dispute, not any F1 driver could
have put themselves in the position to have that luxury.
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FooAtari 26 September 2005 21:32:04 permanent link ]
 RzR <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ wrote in
news:MPG.1da14445f4­cc3f2c9898e5@news.ht­net.hr:
In article <Xns96DCCACF74C4ali­stairfraser81gmai@13­0.133.1.4>, > alistair.fraser81@g­mail.com says...>> MRVASECTOMY@gmail.c­om wrote in news:1127674092.772­269.132160>> @g47g2000cwa.google­groups.com:>>
He did a hell of a job!! There's always next year for Kimi, bit I>> > said that last year. Anyhoo, Schumy ain't there so I'm happy!>> > ROB>> >
He did do a great job. Made a great start to the year and was>> consistent throughout. He is clearly able to cope with any pressure>> thrown at him and is a worthy champion.>>
what pressure? to come in 3rd every race in the second part of the > season?...surely you dont mean pressure from fisichella, bar, ferrari> or toyota? :)­

MS at Imola? And the pressure in general of racing for a WDC...

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FooAtari 26 September 2005 21:34:02 permanent link ]
 RzR <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ wrote in
news:MPG.1da1f6f34a­20eb839898eb@news.ht­net.hr:
In article <9oUIqzSYB6NDFwbv@s­easalter0.demon.co.u­k>, > richard@seasalter0.­demon.co.uk says...>> In message <MPG.1da14445f4cc3f­2c9898e5@news.htnet.­hr>, RzR >> <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ writes>> >In article <Xns96DCCACF74C4ali­stairfraser81gmai@13­0.133.1.4>,>> >alistair.fraser81@­gmail.com says...>> >> MRVASECTOMY@gmail.c­om wrote in news:1127674092.772­269.132160>> >> @g47g2000cwa.google­groups.com:>> >>
He did a hell of a job!! There's always next year for Kimi, bit>> >> > I said that last year. Anyhoo, Schumy ain't there so I'm happy!>> >> > ROB>> >> >
He did do a great job. Made a great start to the year and was>> >> consistent throughout. He is clearly able to cope with any>> >> pressure thrown at him and is a worthy champion.>> >>
what pressure? to come in 3rd every race in the second part of the>> >season?...surely you dont mean pressure from fisichella, bar,>> >ferrari or toyota? :)­>>
The pressure of maintaining that third place week in week out,>> knowing he had little chance of another win after his great run at>> the start of the season and knowing that any failure to finish third>> would screw his chances. The pressure to deliver a flawless>> performance in race and qualifying every single time.>>
And he did it. A worthy champion indeed.>>
hmmm...i can put anything down that any F1 (or wider) driver could> have drove tha last 6-7 races like alonso with their eyes> closed...cmon he was letting redbulls pass him>

Where was Fisi then? He drove the car to maximum, and where axtactly
did a REd Bull pass him for position?

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RzR 26 September 2005 21:38:43 permanent link ]
 In article <Xns96DDC71073445al­istairfraser81gmai@1­30.133.1.4>,
alistair.fraser81@g­mail.com says...> RzR <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ wrote in> news:MPG.1da1f6f34a­20eb839898eb@news.ht­net.hr: >
In article <9oUIqzSYB6NDFwbv@s­easalter0.demon.co.u­k>, > > richard@seasalter0.­demon.co.uk says...> >> In message <MPG.1da14445f4cc3f­2c9898e5@news.htnet.­hr>, RzR > >> <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ writes> >> >In article <Xns96DCCACF74C4ali­stairfraser81gmai@13­0.133.1.4>,> >> >alistair.fraser81@­gmail.com says...> >> >> MRVASECTOMY@gmail.c­om wrote in news:1127674092.772­269.132160> >> >> @g47g2000cwa.google­groups.com:> >> >>
He did a hell of a job!! There's always next year for Kimi, bit> >> >> > I said that last year. Anyhoo, Schumy ain't there so I'm happy!> >> >> > ROB> >> >> >
He did do a great job. Made a great start to the year and was> >> >> consistent throughout. He is clearly able to cope with any> >> >> pressure thrown at him and is a worthy champion.> >> >>
what pressure? to come in 3rd every race in the second part of the> >> >season?...surely you dont mean pressure from fisichella, bar,> >> >ferrari or toyota? :)­> >>
The pressure of maintaining that third place week in week out,> >> knowing he had little chance of another win after his great run at> >> the start of the season and knowing that any failure to finish third> >> would screw his chances. The pressure to deliver a flawless> >> performance in race and qualifying every single time.> >>
And he did it. A worthy champion indeed.> >>
hmmm...i can put anything down that any F1 (or wider) driver could> > have drove tha last 6-7 races like alonso with their eyes> > closed...cmon he was letting redbulls pass him> >
Where was Fisi then? He drove the car to maximum, and where axtactly > did a REd Bull pass him for position?>

fisi was another renault test driver (failures speak for themselves) and
klien passed him to unlap himself, which is even worse...and as far as
alonso's fight for position, he lost pretty much all of them to mclarens
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RzR 26 September 2005 21:41:08 permanent link ]
 In article <Xns96DDC6BB15F89al­istairfraser81gmai@1­30.133.1.4>,
alistair.fraser81@g­mail.com says...> RzR <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ wrote in> news:MPG.1da14445f4­cc3f2c9898e5@news.ht­net.hr: >
In article <Xns96DCCACF74C4ali­stairfraser81gmai@13­0.133.1.4>, > > alistair.fraser81@g­mail.com says...> >> MRVASECTOMY@gmail.c­om wrote in news:1127674092.772­269.132160> >> @g47g2000cwa.google­groups.com:> >>
He did a hell of a job!! There's always next year for Kimi, bit I> >> > said that last year. Anyhoo, Schumy ain't there so I'm happy!> >> > ROB> >> >
He did do a great job. Made a great start to the year and was> >> consistent throughout. He is clearly able to cope with any pressure> >> thrown at him and is a worthy champion.> >>
what pressure? to come in 3rd every race in the second part of the > > season?...surely you dont mean pressure from fisichella, bar, ferrari> > or toyota? :)­>
MS at Imola? >

ok i can buy ms at imola, but it is a hard track to pass, and we all can
see how well ferrari faired after that :)­

And the pressure in general of racing for a WDC...


sigh...not again :)­
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Mark Jones 27 September 2005 02:15:12 permanent link ]
 On 26 Sep 2005 07:40:53 GMT, "Paul-B" <paul@null.invalid.­com> wrote:>Richard Miller wrote:>> In message <MPG.1da14445f4cc3f­2c9898e5@news.htnet.­hr>, RzR>> <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ writes>> > In article <Xns96DCCACF74C4ali­stairfraser81gmai@13­0.133.1.4>,>> > alistair.fraser81@g­mail.com says...>> > > MRVASECTOMY@gmail.c­om wrote in news:1127674092.772­269.132160>> > > @g47g2000cwa.google­groups.com:>> > >
He did a hell of a job!! There's always next year for Kimi, bit I>> said >>> that last year. Anyhoo, Schumy ain't there so I'm happy!>> >>> ROB>> > > >
He did do a great job. Made a great start to the year and was>> > > consistent throughout. He is clearly able to cope with any>> > > pressure thrown at him and is a worthy champion.>> > >
what pressure? to come in 3rd every race in the second part of the>> > season?...surely you dont mean pressure from fisichella, bar,>> > ferrari or toyota? :)­>>
The pressure of maintaining that third place week in week out,>> knowing he had little chance of another win after his great run at>> the start of the season and knowing that any failure to finish third>> would screw his chances. The pressure to deliver a flawless>> performance in race and qualifying every single time.>>
And he did it. A worthy champion indeed.>
Yep, Alonso thoroughly deserves the DWC. It's great to have a clean,>honest holder once again.

Oh shut up, Paul.


And a hearty congratulations to Fernando. Well deserved champion.


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Dc 27 September 2005 19:13:15 permanent link ]
 On 25 Sep 2005 18:39:37 GMT, FooAtari <alistair.fraser81@­gmail.com>
wrote:
Well Done Alonso!!! Great Season (for you, not for F1 as a whole), Great >Champion. And did he look happy :-)­

Fantastic acheivement at such a young age. Many congrats to Fernando
and the whole team. And it was a million times better season than
2004...

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RzR 28 September 2005 00:13:04 permanent link ]
 In article <sprij11219r9qago91­8mt1jd2855pltbek@4ax­.com>,
gojphNOSPAMTA@hotma­il.com says...> On 25 Sep 2005 18:39:37 GMT, FooAtari <alistair.fraser81@­gmail.com>> wrote:>
Well Done Alonso!!! Great Season (for you, not for F1 as a whole), Great > >Champion. And did he look happy :-)­>
Fantastic acheivement at such a young age. Many congrats to Fernando> and the whole team. And it was a million times better season than> 2004...>

its not over yet...the points system cannot save renaults constructors
title, like they did the drivers :)­ the renault boys will have to bring
it now :)­
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FooAtari 28 September 2005 00:35:00 permanent link ]
 RzR <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>­ wrote in
news:MPG.1da3d44e35­6f8f5198990f@news.ht­net.hr:
In article <sprij11219r9qago91­8mt1jd2855pltbek@4ax­.com>, > gojphNOSPAMTA@hotma­il.com says...>> On 25 Sep 2005 18:39:37 GMT, FooAtari <alistair.fraser81@­gmail.com>>> wrote:>>
Well Done Alonso!!! Great Season (for you, not for F1 as a whole),>> >Great Champion. And did he look happy :-)­>>
Fantastic acheivement at such a young age. Many congrats to Fernando>> and the whole team. And it was a million times better season than>> 2004...>>
its not over yet...the points system cannot save renaults constructors> title, like they did the drivers :)­ the renault boys will have to> bring it now :)­>

The points structure didnt save the driver. A fantastic start to
season, and McLarens run of bad lack was the deciding factors in the
WDC.
It's motorsport you have to have the talent and the car underneath to
you win.

whats the old saying - "To finish first, first you have to finish"
something McLaren should have listend to when building this years car
:-)­

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