Thursday, 13 November 2008
Wednesday, 12 November 2008
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| Goodbye to Surfers Steve T 18:38:09 |
| | This article just posted in the Age newspaper in Melbourne:
http://news.theage.com.au/national/gold-coasts-indy-car-race-axed-20081111-5lx1.html
Seems Tony George's damaging legacy continues unabated.
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Tuesday, 11 November 2008
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| Re: RPG Phoenix II (Chase IX) Tom S. +1/+13 Tom S. 02:06:31 |
| | On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:36:06 -0500, Tom S. <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote:
Repost by mail.... It is not showing up on my newsserver.
On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:50:14 -0500, Tom S. <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote: Full practices and qualifying for the second straight week..... Will wonders never cease!! It must be the time for miracles.
Jimmie Johnson now has to finish 36th or higher at Homestead to have
the championship sown up, Matt Kenseth played payback and caused a big
one on the last lap, and a rain delay in Arizona..... typical day at
the races.
Winner: Mark Martin...... +0 Not this time. He finishes 14th
1. Ryan Newman scores a top 10... I wanted to call him, the winner, but I just don't have the confidence in him any more....
+0 Early pit strategy got him up front, but then a flat tire put him
a lap down and it was downhill from there.
2. David Reuytimann might win but he will definitely finish in the top 10.
+0 Ran well early, but just kept slipping back....
3. David Ragan sorta sucked in Happy Hour, but he qualified well. He will get it squared away and finish with a solid top 15.
+1 Finished 10th. He is really starting to show his stuff.
4. Kyle Petty is back in the 45, but it won't help. Both Petty cars (43 and 45) will finish outside the top 30.
+0 Bobby recovered well from practice and qualifying.
5. No more than 5 chasers in the top 12.
+0 Looks like 9 made it this week.
Segment one total - +14
Segment two total - +11
Chase points going in - +12
Race total - + 1
Chase Points to Date - + 13
Tom S
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Monday, 10 November 2008
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| Tejas UCAP -- Pix Cindy Murray 17:41:09 |
| | Sorry it took so long to get these put together...my son (who thinks he
must participate in everything) has kept me running all week -- today
we've got our 3rd swim meet in 7 days.... Anyway, here is the full UCAP
from the Texas race. Enjoy!
http://nascar.borgbilly.com/ucaps/tms08x2/tms08x2a.html
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| Re: RPG Pig Phoenix (Chase IX) +4 +27 Megan Zurawicz 02:10:05 |
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On 11/8/08 18:39, in article C53B8D5E.64751%listpig@sbcglobal.net, "Megan
Zurawicz" <listpig@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Playing my number system again.... Top Ford: Cousin Carl Nope: finished fourth and was still behind Jamie Mac
Top Chevy: JJ Ya think?  Point the first
Top Toy: Rowdy Nope, Hamlin
Top Dodge: I want to say KuBu cause I want it to *be* KuBu. But the numbers say Ryan Newman. Shoulda gone with my gut. Kurt, you rock!
Pick #5: More than four Chevies in the top 10. Nope, four even.
winner: the numbers are pretty clear on this: the 48 is going to kick major butt. And he did. Three more points.
--pig
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| Simmons - RPG - Fenix - 6/34 Mike Simmons 02:10:05 |
| | Time for the second to last RPG of the year
<sigh>.
Top Five (in no order)
Johnson - 1
Gordon (jeffro) -0
Edwards - 1
Busch, Ku - 1 ( Ya' gotta have faith, pig!)
Burton - 0
actually, according to the UNIVAC, Martin and Harvick should be in there but
my gut subbed Busch and Burton in their place.... I just got a feeling....
The winner? I'm torn between Cuzzin Carl and JJ, but JJ's numbers are so
overwhelming, I just gotta go with him. Yippee +3
Let the games begin!
Mike
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Sunday, 9 November 2008
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| Re: RPG Phoenix II (Chase IX) Tom S. Tom S. 18:21:11 |
| | Repost by mail.... It is not showing up on my newsserver.
On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:50:14 -0500, Tom S. <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote:
Full practices and qualifying for the second straight week..... Will wonders never cease!! It must be the time for miracles. Winner: Mark Martin...... 1. Ryan Newman scores a top 10... I wanted to call him, the winner, but I just don't have the confidence in him any more.... 2. David Reuytimann might win but he will definitely finish in the top 10. 3. David Ragan sorta sucked in Happy Hour, but he qualified well. He will get it squared away and finish with a solid top 15. 4. Kyle Petty is back in the 45, but it won't help. Both Petty cars (43 and 45) will finish outside the top 30. 5. No more than 5 chasers in the top 12. Segment one total - +14 Segment two total - +11 Chase points going in - +12 Race total - + Chase Points to Date - + Tom S
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| RPG Pig Phoenix (Chase IX) Megan Zurawicz 02:06:24 |
| | Going with the numbers again.....without looking at qualifying:
10 6 18 5 23 12
Winner
Kasey Kahne
DNF
Jimmie Johnson
Top 12
Matt Kenseth
Most In Top 10 Manufacturer
Chevy
Top 5
Jamie Mac
Bottom 15
Jeff Burton
Bonus: Tony Raines announces he's got a ride for next year in the IRL.
--pig
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| Simmons - RPG - Fenix Mike Simmons 02:06:24 |
| | No rain outs, so life is good! Time for the second to last RPG of the year
<sigh>.
Top Five (in no order)
Johnson
Gordon (jeffro)
Edwards
Busch, Ku
Burton
actually, according to the UNIVAC, Martin and Harvick should be in there but
my gut subbed Busch and Burton in their place.... I just got a feeling....
The winner? I'm torn between Cuzzin Carl and JJ, but JJ's numbers are so
overwhelming, I just gotta go with him.
Let the games begin!
Mike
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Saturday, 8 November 2008
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| RPG - Phoenix - McCoy John McCoy 02:06:33 |
| | The Win: Denny Hamlin. Another right respectable qualifying run;
one of these weeks that'll pay off in a win.
1 - Scott Riggs backs up a strong qualifying run with a T10 finish.
Scott has tended to qualify a lot better than he runs, but I'm
thinking maybe this week the team can put it all together.
2 - Jeff Burton leaves with the points lead (in other words, I'm
guessing Burton to finish ahead of Gordon).
3 - Dave Blaney is top Toyota and T20. Just the first part of
that would be too close to a gimme, so I'll take my chances on
a compound prediction.
4 - Casey Mears, the consistant backmarker of the Hendrick team,
will finish ahead of Kyle Busch.
5 - Kenseth and Biffle both finish ahead of McMurray. I don't
think that good qualifying run will translate into speed in the
race.
bonus - the race has to be red-flagged briefly when a rattlesnake
is found in the pits.
John
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Thursday, 6 November 2008
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| Driver Rankings - Interlagos Brian Lawrence 00:50:15 |
| | Driver Rankings after Interlagos 2008
=====================================
Numbers in brackets () in second column indicate table positions before
adding the most recent GP (IE the change in table position).
GPs - number of GPs counted for each driver (from the last 100)
[-1] [+1], etc. - number of GPs deleted/added to driver's record since
the last event
PP - number of Pole Positions (in the last 100)
W - number of Wins (in the last 100)
FL - number of Fastest Laps (in the last 100)
Points - these are 'my' points, allocated for many & various things, not
just wins, poles, f.laps, etc.
[Change] - the change in points after adding the most recent GP data
** - current drivers
The Last 100 GPs (~5.5 years)
=============================
First race (#1) - Monaco GP, 01 June 2003 (GP #704)
Last race (#100) - Brazilian GP, 02 November 2008 (GP #803)
Headlines
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Felipe Massa's home event 'hat-trick' pushes him above Fernando Alonso into
second place. Nico Rosberg stays at #15, but breaks through the 1,000
point barrier.
Driver GPs [Ch] PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 Kimi RДikkЖnen 99 16 16 33 4981.42 [-27.06] **
2 (3) Felipe Massa 88 [+1] 15 11 11 4957.85 [+279.36] **
3 (2) Fernando Alonso 99 16 21 11 4932.77 [-8.93] **
4 Lewis Hamilton 35 [+1] 13 9 3 3780.68 [+0.66] **
5 Michael Schumacher 65 [-1] 14 24 22 2598.43 [-87.55]
6 Nick Heidfeld 94 1 - 2 1939.10 [-8.58] **
7 Giancarlo Fisichella 98 2 2 1 1706.52 [-11.33] **
8 Rubens Barrichello 99 6 4 5 1663.57 [-23.29] **
9 Jenson Button 95 3 1 - 1582.14 [-11.84] **
10 Robert Kubica 39 [+1] 1 1 - 1530.51 [+5.98] **
11 Jarno Trulli 98 2 1 - 1515.96 [+25.22] **
12 Heikki Kovalainen 35 [+1] 1 1 2 1330.81 [+19.77] **
13 Mark Webber 99 - - - 1223.35 [+0.23] **
14 David Coulthard 99 - - - 1175.18 [-23.08] **
15 Nico Rosberg 53 [+1] - - 1 1008.73 [+11.29] **
16 Juan Pablo Montoya 51 [-1] 3 6 6 930.21 [-36.47]
17 Ralf Schumacher 73 [-1] 4 2 2 918.28 [-29.05]
18 (19) Sebastian Vettel 26 [+1] 1 1 - 784.02 [+43.02] **
19 (18) Takuma Sato 70 - - - 733.93 [-16.08]
20 Timo Glock 22 [+1] - - - 509.99 [+34.58] **
21 (22) Adrian Sutil 35 [+1] - - - 460.57 [+18.61] **
22 (21) Vitantonio Liuzzi 39 - - - 456.58 [-7.35]
23 (24) Kazuki Nakajima 19 [+1] - - - 430.71 [+19.43] **
24 (23) Christijan Albers 45 - - - 416.04 [-8.18]
25 Nelsinho Piquet 18 [+1] - - - 398.24 [-1.61] **
26 (29) SИbastien Bourdais 18 [+1] - - - 355.41 [+20.56] **
27 (26) Tiago Monteiro 36 - - - 352.22 [-7.83]
28 (27) Christian Klien 46 - - - 340.66 [-9.39]
29 (28) Jacques Villeneuve 42 [-1] - - - 337.65 [-9.64]
30 Alexander Wurz 17 - - - 310.52 [-4.57]
31 Scott Speed 28 - - - 289.06 [-4.81]
32 Anthony Davidson 22 - - - 288.22 [-3.85]
33 Pedro de la Rosa 9 - - 1 188.20 [-3.42]
34 Sakon Yamamoto 14 - - - 157.32 [-2.17]
35 Narain Karthikeyan 19 - - - 146.29 [-3.83]
36 Robert Doornbos 11 - - - 113.97 [-2.28]
37 Olivier Panis 26 [-1] - - - 76.73 [-5.64]
38 Antonio Pizzonia 14 [-1] - - - 68.82 [-3.10]
39 Zsolt Baumgartner 20 - - - 67.47 [-3.59]
40 Patrick Friesacher 11 - - - 59.62 [-1.72]
41 Gianmaria Bruni 18 - - - 55.38 [-2.80]
42 (43) Franck Montagny 7 - - - 49.06 [-0.89]
43 (42) Cristiano da Matta 21 [-1] - - - 47.12 [-4.84]
44 Giorgio Pantano 14 - - - 35.73 [-2.07]
45 Yuji Ide 4 - - - 27.87 [-0.56]
46 Ricardo Zonta 5 - - - 23.21 [-0.91]
47 Marc GenИ 3 - - - 13.18 [-0.91]
48 Heinz-H. Frentzen 10 - - - 11.66 [-1.79]
49 Jos Verstappen 10 [-1] - - - 10.44 [-1.87]
50 (52) Markus Winkelhock 1 - - - 9.56 [-0.13]
51 (50) Justin Wilson 10 [-1] - - - 9.27 [-1.84]
52 (51) Nicholas Kiesa 5 - - - 8.97 [-1.12]
53 Ralph Firman 8 [-1] - - - 6.68 [-1.57]
Fifty three drivers have driven in the last 100 GPs.
The last 156 weeks (3 years)
============================
First race (#1) - Bahrain GP, 12 March 2006 (GP #751)
Last race (#53) - Brazilian GP, 02 November 2008 (GP #803)
Headlines
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Fernando Alonso's second-place finish just moves him ahead of RДikkЖnen
and Hamilton - Kimi just shades Hamilton too. Just over 11 points
separate those three. The number of races in this time increases by one.
Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 Felipe Massa 52 [+1] 15 11 11 4701.58 [+288.15] **
2 (4) Fernando Alonso 53 [+1] 8 13 8 3791.86 [+30.28] **
3 Kimi RДikkЖnen 53 [+1] 8 8 19 3788.73 [+15.24] **
4 (2) Lewis Hamilton 35 [+1] 13 9 3 3780.68 [+0.66] **
5 Nick Heidfeld 53 [+1] - - 2 1675.49 [+2.65] **
6 Robert Kubica 39 [+1] 1 1 - 1530.51 [+5.98] **
7 Michael Schumacher 18 4 7 7 1444.33 [-25.54]
8 Heikki Kovalainen 35 [+1] 1 1 2 1330.81 [+19.77] **
9 Giancarlo Fisichella 52 [+1] 1 1 - 1220.89 [+5.63] **
10 Jenson Button 53 [+1] 1 1 - 1088.83 [+8.56] **
11 Jarno Trulli 53 [+1] - - - 1078.06 [+44.82] **
12 Nico Rosberg 53 [+1] - - 1 1008.73 [+11.29] **
13 Rubens Barrichello 52 [+1] - - - 962.37 [+11.16] **
14 Mark Webber 53 [+1] - - - 923.03 [+12.59] **
15 David Coulthard 53 [+1] - - - 879.68 [-9.26] **
16 Sebastian Vettel 26 [+1] 1 1 - 784.02 [+43.02] **
17 Takuma Sato 38 - - - 518.20 [-7.61]
18 Ralf Schumacher 35 - - - 507.73 [-7.97]
19 Timo Glock 18 [+1] - - - 485.32 [+35.60] **
20 Adrian Sutil 35 [+1] - - - 460.57 [+18.61] **
22 Kazuki Nakajima 19 [+1] - - - 430.71 [+19.43] **
23 Nelsinho Piquet 18 [+1] - - - 398.24 [-1.61] **
24 SИbastien Bourdais 18 [+1] - - - 355.41 [+20.56] **
Thirty eight drivers have driven in the last three years (156 weeks).
The last 104 weeks (2 years)
============================
First race (#1) - Australian GP, 18 March 2007 (GP #769)
Last race (#35) - Brazilian GP, 02 November 2008 (GP #803)
Headlines
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Massa overtakes Hamilton and moves into the number one position.
Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 (2) Felipe Massa 34 12 9 9 3806.43 [+128.50] **
2 (1) Lewis Hamilton 35 [+1] 13 9 3 3780.68 [+0.66] **
3 Kimi RДikkЖnen 35 5 8 16 3136.32 [-20.34] **
4 Fernando Alonso 35 2 6 3 2311.83 [+1.85] **
5 Robert Kubica 34 1 1 - 1428.72 [-8.19] **
6 Nick Heidfeld 35 - - 2 1390.81 [-6.92] **
7 Heikki Kovalainen 35 [+1] 1 1 2 1330.81 [+19.77] **
8 Nico Rosberg 35 - - - 838.28 [+12.66] **
9 Jarno Trulli 35 - - - 836.91 [+45.83] **
10 Sebastian Vettel 26 [+1] 1 1 - 784.02 [+43.02] **
11 Mark Webber 35 - - - 743.22 [+13.94] **
12 Rubens Barrichello 34 - - - 660.63 [-6.24] **
13 David Coulthard 35 - - - 637.97 [-8.80] **
14 Giancarlo Fisichella 34 - - - 615.10 [-9.63] **
15 Jenson Button 35 - - - 594.41 [-22.73] **
16 Timo Glock 18 [+1] - - - 485.32 [+35.60] **
17 Adrian Sutil 35 [+1] - - - 460.57 [+18.61] **
18 Kazuki Nakajima 19 [+1] - - - 430.71 [+19.43] **
19 Nelsinho Piquet 18 [+1] - - - 398.24 [-1.61] **
20 (21) SИbastien Bourdais 18 [+1] - - - 355.41 [+20.56] **
Twenty nine drivers have driven in the last two years (104 weeks). Since
Shanghai four drivers have been removed from the 104-week table - Michael
Schumacher, Pedro de la Rosa, Robert Doornbos and Tiago Monteiro.
The last 52 weeks (1 year)
==========================
First race (#1) - Australian GP, 16 March 2008 (GP #786)
Last race (#18) - Brazilian GP, 02 November 2008 (GP #803)
Headlines
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Massa displaces Hamilton in the 52-week table too. Alonso moves ahead of
Heidfeld, Glock ahead of Webber, and Bourdais ahead of Coulthard.
Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 (2) Felipe Massa 18 6 6 3 2221.39 [+155.60] **
2 (1) Lewis Hamilton 18 7 5 1 2052.11 [-26.73] **
3 Kimi RДikkЖnen 18 2 2 10 1528.50 [-95.50] **
4 Robert Kubica 18 1 1 - 1019.95 [-24.55] **
5 Heikki Kovalainen 18 1 1 2 905.50 [+16.65] **
6 (7) Fernando Alonso 18 - 2 - 862.57 [+25.13] **
7 (6) Nick Heidfeld 18 - - 2 831.21 [-18.00] **
8 Sebastian Vettel 18 1 1 - 640.06 [+36.23] **
9 Jarno Trulli 18 - - - 551.45 [+28.63] **
10 Nico Rosberg 18 - - - 490.17 [-23.00] **
11 (12) Timo Glock 18 [+1] - - - 485.32 [+35.60] **
12 (11) Mark Webber 18 - - - 481.00 [+14.50] **
13 Kazuki Nakajima 18 - - - 411.08 [-0.20] **
14 Nelsinho Piquet 18 [+1] - - - 398.24 [-1.61] **
15 Rubens Barrichello 17 - - - 389.94 [+10.36] **
16 (17) SИbastien Bourdais 18 [+1] - - - 355.41 [+20.56] **
17 (16) David Coulthard 18 - - - 353.15 [-21.04] **
18 Jenson Button 18 - - - 348.25 [+14.63] **
19 Giancarlo Fisichella 18 - - - 288.70 [+18.45] **
20 Adrian Sutil 18 - - - 244.50 [+11.17] **
Twenty two drivers have driven in the last year (52 weeks). Since Shanghai
three drivers have been removed from the 52-week table - Ralf Schumacher,
Sakon Yamamoto and Vitantonio Liuzzi.
Number of GP wins in each period
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Last 156 104 52
100 weeks weeks weeks
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Michael Schumacher 24 [-1] 7 - -
Fernando Alonso 21 13 6 2
Kimi RДikkЖnen 16 8 8 2 [-1]
Felipe Massa 11 [+1] 11 [+1] 9 6 [+1]
Lewis Hamilton 9 9 9 5
Juan Pablo Montoya 6 - - -
Rubens Barrichello 4 - - -
Giancarlo Fisichella 2 1 - -
Ralf Schumacher 2 - - -
Robert Kubica 1 1 1 1
Heikki Kovalainen 1 1 1 1
Sebastian Vettel 1 1 1 1
Jenson Button 1 1 - -
Jarno Trulli 1 - - -
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100 53 [+1] 35 18
All-time Top 60
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The addition of the 2008 Brazilian GP results only changes the career
averages for the six current drivers who are ranked in the all-time
top 60 (Alonso, RДikkЖnen, Massa, Hamilton, Coulthard & Barrichello).
Lewis Hamilton completed his second season which means that his ranking
can be regraded by allowing him to upgrade from 50% to 75% of his full
average value per race. This catapults him up from 21st to 10th.
Alonso remains static in 12th, while RДikkЖnen stays 15th with a
slightly reduced average. Massa sees a small increase in his average,
while Coulthard and Barrichello fall slightly - DC ending his careeer
with an average of 48.49 in 37th place.
Current drivers are indicated by a '*'. Their averages are volatile and
will fluctuate from race to race.
Drivers with a limited number of starts are indicated by '%1', '%2' or
'%3' showing those with 25%, 50% and 75% of their respective averages.
Laps Laps Total Race
GPs PP W FL Led Raced Points Avg. WDC
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1. Juan Manuel Fangio 51 30 23 23 1348 3031 9707 190.33 5
2. Alberto Ascari 31 14 13 13 925 1650 5455 175.98 2
3. Jim Clark 72 33 25 28 1943 3923 10622 147.53 2
4. Michael Schumacher 246 67 91 76 4996 13788 31350 127.44 7
5. Ayrton Senna 158 63 41 20 2967 8054 18243 115.46 3
6. Stirling Moss 64 16 16 18 1181 3304 6666 104.15 0
7. Giuseppe Farina 33 5 5 5 338 1827 3427 103.83 1
8. Jackie Stewart 99 17 27 15 1921 5216 9875 99.75 3
9. Alain Prost 198 33 51 41 2680 10485 19547 98.72 4
10. Lewis Hamilton %3 * 35 13 9 3 615 2102 4282 91.76 1
11. Damon Hill 114 20 22 19 1358 5778 9747 85.50 1
12. Fernando Alonso * 121 17 21 11 1221 6769 9666 79.89 2
13. Froilan GonzАlez %3 26 3 2 6 272 1273 2058 79.15 0
14. Nigel Mansell 185 32 31 29 2077 8705 13827 74.74 1
15. Kimi RДikkЖnen * 138 16 17 35 1028 7036 10079 73.04 1
16. Mike Hawthorn 44 4 3 6 223 2341 3165 71.92 1
17. Mika HДkkinen 160 25 20 25 1479 7656 11352 70.95 2
18. Juan Pablo Montoya 91 13 7 12 595 4726 6219 68.34 0
19. Niki Lauda 167 24 25 24 1592 8033 11167 66.87 3
20. Felipe Massa * 104 15 11 11 806 5797 6903 66.37 0
21. Nelson Piquet 202 24 23 23 1566 9773 12809 63.41 3
22. Jack Brabham 125 13 14 12 818 6109 7765 62.12 3
23. Phil Hill 48 6 3 6 171 2413 2958 61.62 1
24. James Hunt 92 14 10 8 634 3890 5385 58.53 1
25. Tony Brooks 38 3 6 3 133 1601 2216 58.30 0
26. Jochen Rindt 60 10 6 3 387 2516 3384 56.40 1
27. Jacky Ickx 115 13 8 14 529 5646 6174 53.69 0
28. Wolfgang von Trips 27 1 2 0 156 1341 1448 53.61 0
29. Jody Scheckter 111 3 10 5 675 6034 5778 52.06 1
30. Ronnie Peterson 123 14 10 9 704 5686 6282 51.08 0
31. Carlos Reutemann 144 6 12 6 645 6943 7322 50.84 0
32. Graham Hill 176 13 14 10 1102 8759 8888 50.50 2
33. Denny Hulme 112 1 8 9 435 6231 5642 50.38 1
34. Mario Andretti 127 18 12 10 798 5273 6318 49.75 1
35. Gilles Villeneuve 65 2 6 8 534 3186 3220 49.55 0
36. Alan Jones 116 6 12 13 589 5565 5672 48.90 1
37. David Coulthard * 245 12 13 18 897 12312 11880 48.49 0
38. Richie Ginther 52 0 1 3 116 2930 2518 48.42 0
39. John Surtees 111 8 6 11 308 4977 5262 47.41 1
40. Gerhard Berger 210 12 10 21 692 9783 9871 47.00 0
41. Emerson Fittipaldi 144 6 14 6 478 7285 6662 46.26 2
42. Clay Regazzoni 132 5 5 15 360 6596 6034 45.71 0
43. RenИ Arnoux 149 18 7 12 506 6613 6757 45.35 0
44. Peter Revson 30 1 2 0 63 1565 1354 45.14 0
45. Jacques Villeneuve 161 12 11 9 627 8180 7211 44.79 1
46. Rubens Barrichello * 265 13 9 15 741 13461 11609 43.81 0
47. Dan Gurney 86 3 4 6 200 3673 3756 43.68 0
48. Peter Collins 32 0 3 0 127 1400 1372 42.87 0
49. Luigi Musso 24 0 1 1 6 1136 1000 41.68 0
50. Didier Pironi 69 3 3 5 295 3352 2850 41.31 0
51. FranГois Cevert 46 0 1 2 129 2369 1892 41.14 0
52. Lorenzo Bandini 42 1 1 2 143 2260 1702 40.52 0
53. Luigi Villoresi 31 0 0 1 2 1533 1253 40.41 0
54. Bruce McLaren 101 0 4 3 41 5092 4031 39.91 0
55. Ralf Schumacher 180 5 6 8 358 9138 7136 39.65 0
56. Piero Taruffi %3 18 0 1 1 46 793 933 38.87 0
57. Keke Rosberg 112 4 5 3 510 5178 4250 37.95 1
58. Luigi Fagioli %2 7 0 1 0 8 351 515 36.77 0
59. Patrick Depailler 95 1 2 4 164 4635 3426 36.06 0
60. Jacques Laffite 173 7 6 6 283 7970 6228 36.00 0
Other current drivers
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Six current drivers merit a full average but are below the top 60. Nico Rosberg
now gets his full average after completing his third season.
... Jenson Button 152 3 1 0 100 7768 4817 31.69 0
... Giancarlo Fisichella 211 3 3 2 210 10511 6449 30.56 0
... Nick Heidfeld 150 1 0 2 25 7964 4294 28.63 0
... Jarno Trulli 200 2 1 0 160 9888 5459 27.30 0
... Nico Rosberg 53 0 0 1 11 2695 1241 23.41 0
... Mark Webber 121 0 0 0 10 5762 2715 22.43 0
Jarno Trulli improved slightly, Mark Webber stayed the same, the others all fell
slightly.
Eight drivers have insufficient starts to qualify for a full average.
... Robert Kubica %3 39 1 1 0 74 2274 1729 33.25 0
... Heikki Kovalainen %3 35 1 1 2 31 2034 1462 31.33 0
... Sebastian Vettel %2 26 1 1 0 52 1205 828 15.93 0
... Timo Glock %2 22 0 0 0 3 1193 595 13.52 0
... Kazuki Nakajima %2 19 0 0 0 0 1094 443 11.66 0
... Nelsinho Piquet %2 18 0 0 0 13 776 403 11.21 0
... Adrian Sutil %3 35 0 0 0 0 1440 522 11.18 0
... SИbastien Bourdais %2 18 0 0 0 3 887 359 9.98 0
Kubica, Kovalainen and Sutil complete their second seasons and move up to 75% of
their full averages. Nakajima, Piquet and Bourdais complete their first seasons
and move to 50%. Vettel and Glock remain on 50% of their full average, both
improved slightly.
--
Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence@msn.com
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Wednesday, 5 November 2008
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| Tap Tap... is this thing on? Paul Ian Harman 14:30:20 |
| | Are you all hung over?
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Wot no messages after the most enthralling final laps of a championship
I can remember? Is this newsgroup dead?
I feel great admiration for Massa - something I never thought I'd say at
the start of this season. He did all that could have been asked for him,
let down by the team on several occasions but still lost out by just the
one point. One has to wonder if he'll ever get so close again, assuming
Kimi gets his mojo back. I've never seen such a distraught winner of his
home GP. To keep it together on the podium as he did, dedicating the
victory to the crowd... very moving.
The expression on his father's face when they realised the horrible
truth - priceless.
Congrats to Lewis, although he couldn't have run a worse drive. It was
all horribly reminiscent of last year, wasn't it. I don't think I'd ever
have been able to forgive Vettel - and I can't believe that in the
Ferrari-powered Torro Rosso he genuinely had no idea of the implications
of his overtake.
I think my heart rate has just about returned to normal after the last
couple of laps. I was all set to resignedly make myself a cuppa. I
should have realised what Ferrari forgot - it's never over until they
all cross the line.
I bet that McLaren will be the most scrutinised vehicle in F1 history
Paul
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| Engine Usage after 18 events - Interlagos Brian Lawrence 13:55:19 |
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E# - Number of engines used by driver/team/engine supplier in 2008
Km. - Distance covered in practice/qualifying/race in 2008
Avg. - Average distance per engine in 2008
Averages in [] indicate that the driver/team/engine supplier ended the 2008
season with a one-race engine.
All data from www.fia.com and/or forix.autosport.com.
C# Driver(s) Engine E# Km. Avg.
===========================================================
18 Takuma Sato Honda RA808E 2 1,548 [774] -----
19 Anthony Davidson Honda RA808E 2 1,145 [573] -----
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
3 Nick Heidfeld BMW P86/8 9 8,626 958
7 Nico Rosberg Toyota RVX-08 9 8,231 915
22 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes FO108V 9 7,853 873
8 Kazuki Nakajima Toyota RVX-08 9 7,626 847
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
4 Robert Kubica BMW P86/8 10 8,327 [833]
11 Jarno Trulli Toyota RVX-08 10 8,123 [812]
5 Fernando Alonso Renault RS27 10 7,947 [795]
10 Mark Webber Renault RS27 10 7,744 774
17 Rubens Barrichello Honda RA808E 10 7,397 [740]
14 Sebastien Bourdais Ferrari 056 10 7,364 [736]
16 Jenson Button Honda RA808E 10 7,151 [715]
15 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 056 10 7,040 [704]
9 David Coulthard Renault RS27 10 6,662 666
6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault RS27 10 6,546 [654]
21 Giancarlo Fisichella Ferrari 056 10 6,495 [650]
20 Adrian Sutil Ferrari 056 10 5,920 592
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 056 11 8,093 [736]
1 Kimi RДikkЖnen Ferrari 056 11 8,007 [728]
12 Timo Glock Toyota RVX-08 11 8,214 [747]
23 Heikki Kovalainen Mercedes FO108V 11 7,782 [707]
-----------------------------------------------------------
204 153,841 [754]
Team Engine E# Km. Avg.
==================================================
Super Aguri Honda RA808E 4 2,693 [673] -----
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Williams Toyota RVX-08 18 15,857 881
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
BMW Sauber BMW P86/8 19 16,953 [892]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
McLaren Mercedes FO108V 20 15,635 [782]
Honda Honda RA808E 20 14,548 [727]
Renault Renault RS27 20 14,493 [724]
Red Bull Renault RS27 20 14,406 720
Toro Rosso Ferrari 056 20 14,404 [720]
Force India Ferrari 056 20 12,415 [621]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Toyota Toyota RVX-08 21 16,337 [778]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Ferrari Ferrari 056 22 16,100 [732]
--------------------------------------------------
204 153,841 [754]
Engine E# Km. Avg. Team(s)
============================================================
BMW P86/8 19 16,953 [892] BMW Sauber
Toyota RVX-08 39 32,194 [825] Toyota, Williams
Mercedes FO108V 20 15,635 [782] McLaren
Renault RS27 40 28,899 [722] Renault, Red Bull
Honda RA808E 24 17,241 [718] Honda, [Super Aguri]
Ferrari 056 62 42,919 [692] Ferrari, Toro Rosso, Force India
------------------------------------------------------------
204 153,841 [754]
1000km engines
==============
There have been eleven engines that have clocked up over 1000km
in their two races:
km Engine Driver Events
============================================
1029 Toyota 11 Trulli 02/MAL & 03/BRN
1007 Toyota 12 Glock 11/HUN & 12/EUR
1019 BMW 4 Kubica 12/EUR & 13/BEL
1067 Ferrari 14 Bourdais 12/EUR & 13/BEL
1030 Ferrari 15 Vettel 12/EUR & 13/BEL
1094 BMW 3 Heidfeld 13/BEL & 14/ITA
1020 Toyota 7 Rosberg 13/BEL & 14/ITA
1086 Toyota 12 Glock 13/BEL & 14/ITA
1013 Ferrari 15 Vettel 14/ITA & 15/SIN
1009 Ferrari 14 Bourdais 16/JPN & 17/CHN
1001 Ferrari 15 Vettel 16/JPN & 17/CHN
Forced Engine Changes (Incurring 10-place penalty)
==================================================
For 2008 the penalty is waived for the first such change of the season for
each driver. This waiver will not apply in the last event of the season.
Waivers are indicated below by a * before the car number - known in the
paddock as 'joker' changes.
GP Engine C# Team Driver When
====================================================================
01 AUS Ferrari 056 * 20 Force India A Sutil After Qual
02 MAL Ferrari 056 * 14 Toro Rosso S Bourdais After P3
09 GBR Ferrari 056 * 1 Ferrari K RДikkЖnen Pre-event
14 ITA Renault RS27 * 10 Red Bull M Webber Pre-event
14 ITA Ferrari 056 * 2 Ferrari F Massa After Qual
15 SIN Mercedes F0108V * 23 McLaren H Kovalainen Pre-event
16 JPN Toyota RVX-08 * 12 Toyota T Glock Pre-event
17 CHN Renault RS27 10 Red Bull M Webber After P3
Number of forced changes
========================
Ferrari 4 (all penalty free)
Renault 2 (one free)
Mercedes 1 (penalty free)
Toyota 1 (penalty free)
--------------
8
'Free' Engine Changes (No penalty - driver failed to finish)
============================================================
GP Engine C# Team Driver
=======================================================
02 MAL Ferrari 056 1 Ferrari K RДikkЖnen
02 MAL Ferrari 056 2 Ferrari F Massa
02 MAL BMW P86/8 4 BMW Sauber R Kubica
02 MAL Renault RS27 6 Renault N Piquet
02 MAL Renault RS27 9 Red Bull D Coulthard
02 MAL Toyota RVX-08 11 Toyota J Trulli
02 MAL Toyota RVX-08 12 Toyota T Glock
04 ESP Ferrari 056 17 Toro Rosso S Vettel
06 MON Ferrari 056 21 Force India G Fisichella
07 CDN Renault RS27 9 Red Bull D Coulthard
08 FRA Renault RS27 5 Renault F Alonso
10 GER Honda RA808E 16 Honda J Button
11 HUN Toyota RVX-08 12 Toyota T Glock
14 ITA Ferrari 056 1 Ferrari K RДikkЖnen
14 ITA Honda RA808E 17 Honda R Barrichello
14 ITA Mercedes FO108V 23 McLaren H Kovalainen
18 BRA Mercedes FO108V 23 McLaren H Kovalainen
Number of 'free' changes
========================
Ferrari 5
Renault 4
Toyota 3
Honda 2
Mercedes 2
BMW 1
--------------
17
Gearbox Usage
=============
Jo Bauer's Technical Report (click on 'Scrutineering Reports' on this page):
"http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressinformation/f1pressinfo/brazil/Pages/brazil.aspx"
says that RДikkЖnen and Kubicaa started the event with new gearboxes after
completing four races with their previous 'box. Trulli and Sutil were
allowed a free change after failing to finish at Shanghai.
Gearbox Penalties
=================
01 AUS Timo Glock Toyota after P3
06 MON Sebastian Vettel Toro Rosso pre-event
06 MON G Fisichella Force India after P3
06 MON David Coulthard Red Bull after qual
07 CDN SИbastien Bourdais Toro Rosso after P3
07 CDN Jenson Button Honda after qual
07 CDN Sebastian Vettel Toro Rosso after qual
08 FRA Rubens Barrichello Honda after qual
The penalty is a five-place grid demotion.
--
Brian Lawrence
Brian_W_Lawrence@msn.com
Wantage, Oxfordshire, UK
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2. The teams and cars
=====================
Q: When was the last time a privateer won a race?
A: The last privateer to win a GP was either Jo Siffert in the Walker
Lotus-Ford at Brands Hatch in 1968, or Jackie Stewart in the Tyrrell
March-Ford in Spain in 1970. (Although Tyrrell bought both chassis
and engine that season some feel that the support he was receiving from
Ford, Elf, and Goodyear place him at least among the semi-works ranks.
It's a judgement call, there being no official body empowered to bless
privateership.)
There has never been a privateer World Champion. Moss came closest in
the Rob Walker-entered Cooper in 1959 when he finished third. Walker
was the first privateer entrant to win a World Championship Grand Prix
with Moss in a Cooper-Climax, in the 1958 Argentine Grand Prix.
The Mugen-Honda engine used by the 2000 Jordan was a factory engine
in all-but-name. The last World Champion to use an off-the-shelf
engine was Keke Rosberg (1982, Williams-Ford).
Q: Who owns which team?
A: BMW Sauber - The former Sauber was restructured, if not
fully renamed, in 2006 as the factory team for
BMW, which holds the controlling stake.
Ferrari - Piero Lardi Ferrari 10%, the FIAT Group 85%, and 5%
by the government-owned Mubadala Development Co. of
Abu Dhabi.
Honda - Honda.
McLaren - TAG McLaren is 40% owned by Daimler A. G., 30% by
the Bahrain Mumtalakat Holding Company, and 15% each
by Ron Dennis and TAG Group S.A. (Mansouer Ojjeh).
Red Bull - (formerly Jaguar, ne Stewart) Dietrich Mateschitz's
Red Bull energy drink company.
Renault - Renault.
Scuderia Toro Rosso (formerly Minardi)
- Dietrich Mateschitz's Red Bull energy drink company
50%; Gerhard Berger 50%. A new owner for the former's
stake is being sought before 2010.
Force India - (recently Spyker, formerly MF1 Racing, ne Jordan)
Orange India Holdings, itself equally owned by
Strongwind (an investment company controlled by
Michiel Mol) and Watson Ltd. (owned by Indian
businessman Vijay Mallya).
Toyota - Toyota.
Williams - Frank Williams and Patrick Head (said to be 80/20).
Heavy sponsorship involvement by the Baugur Group
has sparked rumors that they have taken an ownership
position as well, but this has not been confirmed.
The Super Aguri team, which folded early in the 2008 season, was
owned by Aguri Suzuki and Fumio Akita but largely dependent on
financial support from Honda. When a planned sale to the Magma
Group, a London-based automotive consultancy, fell through at
the last minute alternative funding could not be found.
Q: Who is supplying engines to which team in 2008?
A: BMW Sauber - BMW [F]
Ferrari - Ferrari [F]
Honda - Honda [F]
McLaren - Mercedes [F]
Red Bull - Renault [C]
Renault - Renault [F]
STR - Ferrari [C]
Force India*- Ferrari [C]
Toyota - Toyota [F]
Williams - Toyota [F]
[F] Factory [C] Customer
*formerly Spyker F1
Q: What happened to Prodrive?
A: Anticipating the expiration of the Concorde Agreement (see above),
which restricted participation in F1 to true constructors, the
FIA abruptly opened entries for 2008 for the week of 24 to 31
March, 2006. Twenty-two applications were received; the official
entry list, announced by the FIA on April 28, consisted of the
then-current 11 teams plus Prodrive (Dave Richards, former BAR and
Benetton principal). The Prodrive entry, however, was predicated
on the legality of "customer" cars - they negotiated with McLaren
and others for a 2008 supply - and the ongoing legal questions over
the 2007 Toro Rosso and Super Aguri entries, and the failure to
agree on a new Concorde agreement permitting this for 2008,
caused Richards to announce that Prodrive would not compete as
scheduled.
Q: What teams will be competing in 2009?
A: Entries were open only during July 2008; the list hasn't been
announced yet, but there's no indication it will include other
than the current 10.
Q. How much does each team spend per year?
A. Estimates are all that are available, and of course they vary. The
March 2006 issue of /F1 Racing/ gave the following breakdown for
2005 (all figures in millions of US dollars):
R&D WT Man. Eng. T&A Tests Races T-Sal D-Sal
C.E. Total
===============================================================================
Ferrari 26.60 15.55 1.80 150 19.46 75.75 37.28 51.04 46.50
9.00 432.98
Toyota 63.40 13.14 2.80 180 12.97 77.50 29.71 68.53 39.50
11.50 499.05
McLaren 45.66 15.93 1.99 140 14.05 65.86 25.33 62.23 40.00
8.50 419.95
Williams 22.50 14.91 1.65 137 10.05 74.50 27.46 57.05 5.00
10.00 360.12
BAR 33.40 11.62 1.37 170 8.53 54.00 23.24 40.70 10.25
7.05 360.16
Renault 18.09 9.06 1.92 115 8.10 44.00 25.09 41.08 18.25
6.50 287.81
Sauber 15.03 11.71 1.75 26 7.70 27.50 24.03 39.60 4.50
3.50 161.32
Red Bull 13.48 6.78 1.25 18 5.72 37.50 19.51 23.78 2.50
10.70 139.22
Jordan 12.20 5.10 0.80 15 4.86 26.50 21.34 16.50 0.50
1.40 104.20
Minardi 0.45 3.40 0.75 10 2.47 10.00 10.25 12.24 0.35
0.40 50.31
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250.81 107.20 16.08 961 93.91 493.11 243.24 413.47 167.35
68.55 2814.72
(WT = wind tunnel, Man = manufacturing, Eng = engines, T&A = travel and
accomodation, T-Sal = team salaries, D-Sal = drivers' salaries, C.E. =
corporate entertainment)
For comparison, /F1 Racing/'s team totals for 2004 and 2003:
Ferra Toyot McLar Willi B.A.R Renau Saube Jagua
Jorda Minar
============================================================================
[2004Tot $2493] 418.2 368.5 359.2 359.0 309.9 255.2 154.6 141.9
79.92 46.58
[2003Tot $2141] 443.8 290.4 304.6 353.3 225.1 206.8 119.5 78.8
79.20 39.60
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Q: Is it true that there was a 6-wheel F1 car that won a race?
A: The Tyrrell project 34 had small, 10 inch diameter front wheels
that could be completely hidden behind the front cowling then
in common use on F1 cars. This removed the front wheels from the
airstream and thus reduced drag significantly, resulting in the
car going faster. The problem was that the tiny front wheels
didn't provide enough surface area for proper braking. The way
around this was to use 4 front wheels instead of the usual 2.
The car was pretty successful in its first year and actually won
at Anderstorp (Swedish Grand Prix 1976) for Jody Scheckter, with
Depailler second. It was less successful in 1977 because the
more complicated 4-wheel front suspension assembly added a lot
of weight, and Goodyear wasn't keeping up on tire development of
the 10" tires. Tyrrell went back to a conventional, 4-wheel car
the next year. Pictures at http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/tyrp34.htm
and http://www.evil-photographer.com/cars/tyrrell/P34/P34.htm.
March also made some experiments with a 6 wheel car in 1977.
The 2-4-0 (from rail locomotive terminology) sought increased
traction by having a second set of rear wheels behind the first.
Design and construction were very informal, development nonexistent
(most running was done with only one set of rear wheels driven to
avoid cracking the inadequate gearbox casing), and the car never
competed; a successor machine did win several British hillclimbs
in 1979 with Roy Lane at the wheel. Photo at
http://www.geocities.com/simontmallett/240march1.html.
Williams produced a 6-wheel variant of their FW08 in 1982, of
similar layout to the March. The idea this time was to extend the
area under the car available to venturi tunnels and to allow the
rear wing to be mounted further back on the car. Cars were
built and tested, but right about the time that they were ready
to race the FIA came out with new regulations restricting F1 cars
to 4 wheels mounted on 2 axles, so it never raced for the FIA World
Championship. The cars still exist and have appeared in several
historic races. Photo at
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/689-1.jpg.
Q: Is it true about a "fan car"?
A: The Brabham BT46B, which Niki Lauda drove to victory in the
1978 Swedish GP.
This was an idea borrowed from Jim Hall's Chaparral CanAm cars.
The idea was to put skirts on the sidepods to seal the undercar area,
then to mount an extractor fan at the back to remove
the air under the car, thus sucking it down onto the track.
To get around the "moveable areodynamic device" ban, Brabham
claimed that the fan was there to help cool the engine.
Whilst this wasn't false, it wasn't the full reason behind the
fan; the car actually squatted down onto the track if you
blipped the throttle while it was stationary.
But its biggest problem was that it was very successful, so
all the other teams protested. There was also one legitimate
safety concern--the fan tended to pick up debris from the track
and blow it into the face of a driver following closely. In
any event, the car was very soon banned by the FIA because the
fan was ruled to be an aerodynamic aid not in a fixed position
relative to the sprung part of the car.
Q: Why were Tyrrell thrown out of the 1984 championship?
A: This is from Autocourse:
"In the afterglow of 1984's chase-the-McLaren story, the
FISA-versus-Tyrrell affair still rankles as being as distasteful as it
was ill-considered. Whether or not Tyrrell was plying his 012 cars
with lead ballast during a late-race pit stop or - and this is more
far-fetched - mixing additive to the water injected into the engine to
ward off piston and valvegear failures has become a moot case. What is
more relevant is not only the way that FISA conducted his trial - for
example, introducing fresh evidence at an appeal hearing and barring
Tyrrell from approaching expert witnesses who had analysed water
samples for FISA - but also the severity of the fine. If Andrea de
Cesaris and Niki Lauda have their practice times discounted on the
days at Dijon and Dallas where the Ligier was found to be running with
an empty fire extinguisher bottle and the McLaren declared to have a
rear wing 2mm too wide, then excluding Tyrrell from the World
Championship for infringements committed during Martin Brundle's gutsy
drive to second in Detroit ranks as a kneejerk reaction of an
inappropriate magnitude.
But the decision was final, costing Tyrrell his FOCA membership and
USD 1,000,000 in concessionary travel arrangements to transcontinental
races. Underlying the season had been the backstage arguments over the
proposed 195-litre fuel capacity maximum intended for 1985: to stick
at the current 220-litre allowance required team unanimity - and Ken
Tyrrell was the only dissenting voice. Naturally, after he was barred
from the Championship, so 220 litres became a fixed part of the '85
technical regulations, neatly, tidily and with no outward fuss."
Q: Who won the constructors championship in the year....?
A:
2007 Ferrari (I)
2006 Renault (F)
2005 Renault (F)
2004 Ferrari (I)
2003 Ferrari (I)
2002 Ferrari (I)
2001 Ferrari (I)
2000 Ferrari (I)
1999 Ferrari (I)
1998 McLaren (GB)
1997 Williams (GB)
1996 Williams (GB)
1995 Benetton (GB)
1994 Williams (GB)
1993 Williams (GB)
1992 Williams (GB)
1991 McLaren (GB)
1990 McLaren (GB)
1989 McLaren (GB)
1988 McLaren (GB)
1987 Williams (GB)
1986 Williams (GB)
1985 McLaren (GB)
1984 McLaren (GB)
1983 Ferrari (I)
1982 Ferrari (I)
1981 Williams (GB)
1980 Williams (GB)
1979 Ferrari (I)
1978 Lotus (GB)
1977 Ferrari (I)
1976 Ferrari (I)
1975 Ferrari (I)
1974 McLaren (GB)
1973 Lotus (GB)
1972 Lotus (GB)
1971 Tyrrell (GB)
1970 Lotus (GB)
1969 Matra (F)
1968 Lotus (GB)
1967 Brabham (GB)
1966 Brabham (GB)
1965 Lotus (GB)
1964 Ferrari (I)
1963 Lotus (GB)
1962 BRM (GB)
1961 Ferrari (I)
1960 Cooper (GB)
1959 Cooper (GB)
1958 Vanwall (GB)
(The Constructors Championship originated in 1958.)
--
Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
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| Fewest race starts before becoming WDC Brian Lawrence 15:25:11 |
| | 1950 Nino Farina 6 [first WDC]
1951 Juan Manuel Fangio 13 [second WDC]
1952 Alberto Ascari 15 [third WDC]
1959 Jack Brabham 24
1961 Phil Hill 25
1972 Emerson Fittipaldi 25
1967 Denny Hulme 26
1963 Jim Clark 30
1997 Jacques Villeneuve 33
2008 Lewis Hamilton 35
Most starts
1992 Nigel Mansell 176
2007 Kimi RДikkЖnen 120
1998 Mika HДkkinen 112
1979 Jody Scheckter 95
1985 Alain Prost 87
1978 Mario Andretti 79
1988 Ayrton Senna 77
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Oxfordshire, UK
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| Best Lap Comparison - Interlagos Brian Lawrence 14:05:04 |
| | These are the fastest laps set by each driver over the whole event.
Braizilan GP 31 October-02 November 2008
Team Driver Sess Time
============================================
McLaren-Mercedes Kovalainen Q2 1'11.768
Ferrari Massa Q1 1'11.830
T Rosso-Ferrari Vettel Q2 1'11.845
McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton Q2 1'11.856
Toyota Glock Q2 1'11.909
Ferrari RДikkЖnen Q2 1'11.950
BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld Q2 1'12.026
T Rosso-Ferrari Bourdais Q2 1'12.075
Renault Alonso Q2 1'12.090
Toyota Trulli Q2 1'12.107
Renault Piquet Q2 1'12.137
Red Bull-Renault Webber Q2 1'12.289
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica Q2 1'12.300
Honda Barrichello Q1 1'12.548
Williams-Toyota Rosberg P3 1'12.625
Red Bull-Renault Coulthard Q1 1'12.690
Williams-Toyota Nakajima Q1 1'12.800
Honda Button Q1 1'12.810
F India-Ferrari Fisichella Q1 1'13.426
F India-Ferrari Sutil P2 1'13.428
2007/2008 Comparison
====================
How does the fastest lap of the whole weekend (3 practice sessions, 3 qualifying
segments and the race) compare to the fastest lap of the weekend in 2007?
Here are two tables - one compares driver with driver; easy enough if the same
driver remains in the same team. If not, compare the 2007 driver with the guy
who replaced him.
'S' is the session when the best lap was achieved (P1/P2/P3/Q1/Q2/Q3/R)
'Lps' are the total laps in all sessions (2007 excludes any third drivers)
'Diff' is the gain/loss in seconds
'%Diff' is the difference in time as a percentage of the 2007 time
A negative Diff/%Diff mean that the driver/team improved. Positive means they
got worse.
There can be several reasons for the variations seen.
Apologies if the tables wrap - save it and reformat if you are interested.
Note: Spyker-Ferrari was renamed to Force India-Ferrari, all other team names
remain the same.
2007 2008
Team Driver S Lps Time Driver S Lps Time Diff. %Diff
========================================================================================
Toyota Schumacher P3 156 1'13.046 Glock Q2 189 1'11.909 -1.137 -1.56
Renault Kovalainen P3 109 1'13.090 Piquet Q2 120 1'12.137 -0.953 -1.30
T Rosso-Ferrari Vettel P3 123 1'12.767 Vettel Q2 187 1'11.845 -0.922 -1.27
Renault Fisichella P3 58 1'12.913 Alonso Q2 176 1'12.090 -0.823 -1.13
T Rosso-Ferrari Liuzzi P3 151 1'12.893 Bourdais Q2 175 1'12.075 -0.818 -1.12
McLaren-Mercedes Alonso Q3 134 1'12.356 Kovalainen Q2 163 1'11.768 -0.588 -0.81
BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld P3 165 1'12.579 Heidfeld Q2 184 1'12.026 -0.553 -0.76
[Spyker-Ferrari] Yamamoto P3 86 1'13.872 Fisichella Q1 154 1'13.426 -0.446 -0.60
Toyota Trulli P3 169 1'12.461 Trulli Q2 173 1'12.107 -0.354 -0.49
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica Q2 143 1'12.641 Kubica Q2 177 1'12.300 -0.341 -0.47
Williams-Toyota Nakajima R 157 1'13.116 Nakajima Q1 163 1'12.800 -0.316 -0.43
[Spyker-Ferrari] Sutil P3 132 1'13.684 Sutil P2 153 1'13.428 -0.256 -0.35
Honda Button P3 120 1'13.015 Button Q1 164 1'12.810 -0.205 -0.28
Red Bull-Renault Webber P3 99 1'12.446 Webber Q2 171 1'12.289 -0.157 -0.22
Red Bull-Renault Coulthard Q2 152 1'12.846 Coulthard Q1 95 1'12.690 -0.156 -0.21
Williams-Toyota Rosberg Q2 162 1'12.752 Rosberg P3 159 1'12.625 -0.127 -0.17
McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton P3 144 1'11.934 Hamilton Q2 159 1'11.856 -0.078 -0.11
Ferrari RДikkЖnen P3 151 1'11.942 RДikkЖnen Q2 158 1'11.950 +0.008 +0.01
Ferrari Massa P3 153 1'11.810 Massa Q1 170 1'11.830 +0.020 +0.03
Honda Barrichello P3 144 1'12.478 Barrichello Q1 175 1'12.548 +0.070 +0.10
S Aguri-Honda Davidson P3 141 1'13.299
S Aguri-Honda Sato P3 137 1'13.331
Notes: Seventeen driver combinations improved compared to last year, with
only RДikkЖnen, Massa and Barrichello unable to go any faster.
The second table takes the best lap time from both drivers in each team and
compares with the equivalent team last season. Probably a better comparison.
2007 2008
Team Driver S Lps Time Driver S Lps Time Diff. %Diff
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T Rosso-Ferrari Vettel P3 274 1'12.767 Vettel Q2 362 1'11.845 -0.922 -1.27
Renault Fisichella P3 167 1'12.913 Alonso Q2 296 1'12.090 -0.823 -1.13
Toyota Trulli P3 325 1'12.461 Glock Q2 362 1'11.909 -0.552 -0.76
BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld P3 308 1'12.579 Heidfeld Q2 361 1'12.026 -0.553 -0.76
[Spyker-Ferrari] Sutil P3 218 1'13.684 Fisichella Q1 307 1'13.426 -0.258 -0.35
McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton P3 278 1'11.934 Kovalainen Q2 322 1'11.768 -0.166 -0.23
Williams-Toyota Rosberg Q2 319 1'12.752 Rosberg P3 322 1'12.625 -0.127 -0.17
Red Bull-Renault Webber P3 251 1'12.446 Coulthard Q1 266 1'12.289 -0.070 -0.10
Ferrari Massa P3 304 1'11.810 Massa Q1 328 1'11.830 +0.020 +0.03
Honda Barrichello P3 264 1'12.478 Barrichello Q1 339 1'12.548 +0.070 +0.10
S Aguri-Honda Davidson P3 278 1'13.299
Eight teams improved on their best laps in 2007, Ferrari and Honda did not.
All data from www.formula1.com.
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Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence@msn.com
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