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rasf1m to be wound up

Paul-B 10 May 2005 12:01:43
 From David Bett's post on rasf1 today:


"In view of the declining usage of rasf1m the moderation
team feels it can no longer justify asking the
present host to continue devoting time and expense to
maintaining the group's functionality. Consequently, unless a
new volunteer comes forward with hosting facilities in the
next few days, together with some fresh faces for the
moderation team, we will be winding up the group on May 31st..

We would like to thank all those who have contributed to
rasf1m since it was launched and who made it such an
interesting and worthwhile newsgroup for several years.
These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the
unmoderated group much less unwieldy than it was, the need
for a moderated group seems to have faded away."
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Pete Fenelon 10 May 2005 13:20:40 [ permanent link ]
 Paul-B <null@null.invalid.­com> wrote:
(quoting David Betts)> These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the> unmoderated group much less unwieldy than it was, the need> for a moderated group seems to have faded away."


Until the next S** '98. ;)

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Paul-B 10 May 2005 13:52:29 [ permanent link ]
 Pete Fenelon wrote:
Paul-B <null@null.invalid.­com> wrote:> (quoting David Betts)> > These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the> > unmoderated group much less unwieldy than it was, the need> > for a moderated group seems to have faded away.">
Until the next S** '98. ;)>
pete


Don't mention the war...
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Emma 10 May 2005 14:01:09 [ permanent link ]
 Pete Fenelon <pete@fenelon.com> wrote:>Paul-B <null@null.invalid.­com> wrote:>(quoting David Betts)>> These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the>> unmoderated group much less unwieldy than it was, the need>> for a moderated group seems to have faded away.">
Until the next S** '98. ;)

If that happens rasf1m can be re-started. ;-)­

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Geoff May 10 May 2005 14:23:02 [ permanent link ]
 Emma wrote:> Pete Fenelon <pete@fenelon.com> wrote:>
Paul-B <null@null.invalid.­com> wrote:>> (quoting David Betts)>>
These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the>>> unmoderated group much less unwieldy than it was, the need>>> for a moderated group seems to have faded away.">>
Until the next S** '98. ;)>
If that happens rasf1m can be re-started. ;-)­

Brussels-Spa 1898?

MfG

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HooDooWitch 10 May 2005 14:57:36 [ permanent link ]
 On 10 May 2005 08:01:43 GMT, "Paul-B" <null@null.invalid.­com> wrote:
"In view of the declining usage of rasf1m the moderation

Thassa pity. Although I rarely posted, I used it like a "magazine"
edition of rasf1. Get the quali stats, overtaking stats and race
results without having to wade through all the garbage in here ...

Ho hum. So long ... and thanks for all the fish.

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Ray O'Hara 10 May 2005 15:41:04 [ permanent link ]
 
"Paul-B" <null@null.invalid.­com> wrote in message
news:3eb837F24e9uU1­@individual.net...> From David Bett's post on rasf1 today:>
"In view of the declining usage of rasf1m the moderation> team feels it can no longer justify asking the> present host to continue devoting time and expense to> maintaining the group's functionality. Consequently, unless a> new volunteer comes forward with hosting facilities in the> next few days, together with some fresh faces for the> moderation team, we will be winding up the group on May 31st..>
We would like to thank all those who have contributed to> rasf1m since it was launched and who made it such an> interesting and worthwhile newsgroup for several years.> These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the> unmoderated group much less unwieldy than it was, the need> for a moderated group seems to have faded away."


moderated groups have a way of "fading"away. of course this never has
anything to do with moderator policies.
the flame and spam are more tolerable than being censored arbitrarily and so
bye mod group. it won't be missed.

flame and spam can be blocked or ignored ,censorship is harder to dodge,
waiting days or even just hours for a post to appear is annoying when the
net thrives on immiediacy. generally near flame gets through and the reply
is what is censored and one party has to fume by seeing something they can't
reply to sitting there. charges of cronyism also dog all mod groups.
in the end mod groups become worse than what they are meant to cure.


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F2005: 0 of 3 10 May 2005 15:44:17 [ permanent link ]
 On 10 May 2005 08:01:43 GMT, "Paul-B" <null@null.invalid.­com> wrote:
From David Bett's post on rasf1 today:>
"In view of the declining usage of rasf1m the moderation>team feels it can no longer justify asking the>present host to continue devoting time and expense to>maintaining the group's functionality. Consequently, unless a>new volunteer comes forward with hosting facilities in the>next few days, together with some fresh faces for the>moderation team, we will be winding up the group on May 31st..>
We would like to thank all those who have contributed to>rasf1m since it was launched and who made it such an>interesting and worthwhile newsgroup for several years.>These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the>unmoderated group much less unwieldy

..."all but monolithically Anglo-centric"...
than it was, the need>for a moderated group seems to have faded away."

LOFL

No despotism willingly divests itself of power.
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Ian Dalziel 10 May 2005 16:09:26 [ permanent link ]
 On Tue, 10 May 2005 07:41:04 -0400, "ray o'hara" <roh@comcast.net>
wrote:
moderated groups have a way of "fading"away. of course this never has>anything to do with moderator policies.>the flame and spam are more tolerable than being censored arbitrarily and so>bye mod group. it won't be missed.>
flame and spam can be blocked or ignored ,censorship is harder to dodge,>waiting days or even just hours for a post to appear is annoying when the>net thrives on immiediacy. generally near flame gets through and the reply>is what is censored and one party has to fume by seeing something they can't>reply to sitting there. charges of cronyism also dog all mod groups.>in the end mod groups become worse than what they are meant to cure.

Can you point to ONE instance of any of that on rasf1m?
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Ian Dalziel 10 May 2005 16:12:18 [ permanent link ]
 On Tue, 10 May 2005 11:44:17 GMT, "F2005: 0 of 3"
<Ron.Dennis@LyingCh­eatingSwine.com> wrote:
We would like to thank all those who have contributed to>>rasf1m since it was launched and who made it such an>>interesting and worthwhile newsgroup for several years.>>These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the>>unmoderated group much less unwieldy >
..."all but monolithically Anglo-centric"...

You callin' me English, pal?
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Paul-B 10 May 2005 16:42:43 [ permanent link ]
 ray o'hara wrote:
"Paul-B" <null@null.invalid.­com> wrote in message> news:3eb837F24e9uU1­@individual.net...> > From David Bett's post on rasf1 today:> >
"In view of the declining usage of rasf1m the moderation> > team feels it can no longer justify asking the> > present host to continue devoting time and expense to> > maintaining the group's functionality. Consequently, unless a> > new volunteer comes forward with hosting facilities in the> > next few days, together with some fresh faces for the> > moderation team, we will be winding up the group on May 31st..> >
We would like to thank all those who have contributed to> > rasf1m since it was launched and who made it such an> > interesting and worthwhile newsgroup for several years.> > These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the> > unmoderated group much less unwieldy than it was, the need> > for a moderated group seems to have faded away.">
moderated groups have a way of "fading"away. of course this never has> anything to do with moderator policies.> the flame and spam are more tolerable than being censored arbitrarily> and so bye mod group. it won't be missed.>
flame and spam can be blocked or ignored ,censorship is harder to> dodge, waiting days or even just hours for a post to appear is> annoying when the net thrives on immiediacy. generally near flame> gets through and the reply is what is censored and one party has to> fume by seeing something they can't reply to sitting there. charges> of cronyism also dog all mod groups. in the end mod groups become> worse than what they are meant to cure.


Not the rasf1m I've been subscribed to. Certainly no cronyism or
blatant censorship, and my few postings there have appeared almost
immediately.

And I voted against the formation of rasf1m, but I'll be sad to see it
go.
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Jope Dorman 10 May 2005 16:57:23 [ permanent link ]
 Ian Dalziel <iandalziel@lineone­.net> wrote in message:
news:<s791811qvm8o0­2u0s42rfks9dup146eq9­7@4ax.com>> On Tue, 10 May 2005 11:44:17 GMT, "F2005: 0 of 3"> <Ron.Dennis@LyingCh­eatingSwine.com> wrote:>
We would like to thank all those who have contributed to> >>rasf1m since it was launched and who made it such an> >>interesting and worthwhile newsgroup for several years.> >>These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the> >>unmoderated group much less unwieldy > >
..."all but monolithically Anglo-centric"...>
You callin' me English, pal? > -->
Any F1 newsgroup that uses English is "monolithically Anglo-centric" to the
American fuckwit.
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Pete Fenelon 10 May 2005 17:47:20 [ permanent link ]
 Paul-B <null@null.invalid.­com> wrote:> And I voted against the formation of rasf1m, but I'll be sad to see it> go.


Likewise, actually. ;)

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Bumble Bee Boy 2 10 May 2005 18:19:07 [ permanent link ]
 "Paul-B" <null@null.invalid.­com> wrote in message
news:3eb837F24e9uU1­@individual.net...> From David Bett's post on rasf1 today:>
"In view of the declining usage of rasf1m the moderation> team feels it can no longer justify asking the> present host to continue devoting time and expense to> maintaining the group's functionality. Consequently, unless a> new volunteer comes forward with hosting facilities in the> next few days, together with some fresh faces for the> moderation team, we will be winding up the group on May 31st..>
We would like to thank all those who have contributed to> rasf1m since it was launched and who made it such an> interesting and worthwhile newsgroup for several years.> These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the> unmoderated group much less unwieldy than it was, the need> for a moderated group seems to have faded away."

Ho-hum...


Bumble


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Da Frank 11 May 2005 02:17:33 [ permanent link ]
 On Tue, 10 May 2005 12:23:02 +0200, Geoff May
<BeateUndGeoff@t-on­line.de> wrote:
Emma wrote:>> Pete Fenelon <pete@fenelon.com> wrote:>>
Paul-B <null@null.invalid.­com> wrote:>>> (quoting David Betts)>>>
These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the>>>> unmoderated group much less unwieldy than it was, the need>>>> for a moderated group seems to have faded away.">>>
Until the next S** '98. ;)>>
If that happens rasf1m can be re-started. ;-)­>
Brussels-Spa 1898?>
I hate brussel spas.

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Geoff May 11 May 2005 03:53:47 [ permanent link ]
 Da Frank wrote:> On Tue, 10 May 2005 12:23:02 +0200, Geoff May> <BeateUndGeoff@t-on­line.de> wrote:>
Emma wrote:>>
Pete Fenelon <pete@fenelon.com> wrote:>>>
Paul-B <null@null.invalid.­com> wrote:>>>>(quoting David Betts)>>>>
These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the>>>>>unmoderated­ group much less unwieldy than it was, the need>>>>>for a moderated group seems to have faded away.">>>>
Until the next S** '98. ;)>>>
If that happens rasf1m can be re-started. ;-)­>>
Brussels-Spa 1898?>
I hate brussel spas.

I love 'em. Don't like sparrow's grass, though.

MfG

Geoff.

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Mark Jones 11 May 2005 08:49:01 [ permanent link ]
 On Tue, 10 May 2005 10:20:40 +0100, Pete Fenelon <pete@fenelon.com>
wrote:>Paul-B <null@null.invalid.­com> wrote:>(quoting David Betts)>> These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the>> unmoderated group much less unwieldy than it was, the need>> for a moderated group seems to have faded away.">
Until the next S** '98. ;)


ARRRRGHH!!
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Sreekumar A 11 May 2005 10:33:28 [ permanent link ]
 Pete Fenelon wrote:> Paul-B <null@null.invalid.­com> wrote:> (quoting David Betts)>> These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the>> unmoderated group much less unwieldy than it was, the need>> for a moderated group seems to have faded away.">
Until the next S** '98. ;)

I know it is a forbidden word around here. But what happened back then
(other than the first corner accident)? I have been here in RASF1 (mostly
reading) only for 3 years.

Sreekumar


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Geoff May 11 May 2005 10:52:36 [ permanent link ]
 Sreekumar A wrote:> Pete Fenelon wrote:>
Paul-B <null@null.invalid.­com> wrote:>>(quoting David Betts)>>
These days, with usenet traffic down significantly and the>>>unmoderated group much less unwieldy than it was, the need>>>for a moderated group seems to have faded away.">>
Until the next S** '98. ;)>
I know it is a forbidden word around here. But what happened back then > (other than the first corner accident)? I have been here in RASF1 (mostly > reading) only for 3 years.

MS collided with DC and MS ended up with a 3-wheel Ferrari:

http://www.differen­ce-engine.co.uk/libr­ary/damonhill/images­/spamont3.jpg
(top right just after the impact)

http://www.differen­ce-engine.co.uk/libr­ary/damonhill/images­/spamont2.jpg
(bottom right)

MS wasn't impressed with having his car reduced to Robin Reliant status
and got a little irate about the situation:

http://www.cartoons­tock.com/lowres/twa0­051l.jpg

MfG

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Emma 11 May 2005 13:02:40 [ permanent link ]
 Sreekumar A <s@r.e.invalid> wrote:>Pete Fenelon wrote:>> Until the next S** '98. ;)>I know it is a forbidden word around here. But what happened back then>(other than the first corner accident)? I have been here in RASF1 (mostly>reading) only for 3 years.

It was something akin to World War 3.
Try doing a Google Groups search, you might find some of the old
threads.

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Sreekumar A 11 May 2005 17:32:47 [ permanent link ]
 

Emma wrote:> Sreekumar A <s@r.e.invalid> wrote:>> Pete Fenelon wrote:>>> Until the next S** '98. ;)>> I know it is a forbidden word around here. But what happened back>> then (other than the first corner accident)? I have been here in>> RASF1 (mostly reading) only for 3 years.>
It was something akin to World War 3.> Try doing a Google Groups search, you might find some of the old> threads.

Thanks. As someone posted the count back then - 2367 posts. Its going be a
long read :-)­

Sreekumar


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Pete Fenelon 11 May 2005 17:54:11 [ permanent link ]
 Sreekumar A <s r e e k u -no spam please-@hotmail.com­> wrote:> Thanks. As someone posted the count back then - 2367 posts. Its going be a > long read :-)­>

Not really. The semantic content is very low.

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A425couple 11 May 2005 20:41:22 [ permanent link ]
 
"ajames54" <ajames54@hotmail.c­om> wrote in message> Well for a while I attempted to post there..> Those posts ... if they ever showed at all were so late as to be nearly> useless, so I stopped bothering.

Ahh, I tend to think your above issues were computer or isp
caused rather than moderator caused.
(I also frequently have problems causing frustration -
but rasf1mod has always worked perfect for me)

And the same answer to Ray, rasf1mod seemed to me
to be an ideal model for a moderated group.


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Mark Jones 12 May 2005 01:26:58 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 11 May 2005 13:32:47 GMT, "Sreekumar A" <s r e e k u -no spam
please-@hotmail.com­> wrote:>Emma wrote:>> Sreekumar A <s@r.e.invalid> wrote:>>> Pete Fenelon wrote:>>>> Until the next S** '98. ;)>>> I know it is a forbidden word around here. But what happened back>>> then (other than the first corner accident)? I have been here in>>> RASF1 (mostly reading) only for 3 years.>>
It was something akin to World War 3.>> Try doing a Google Groups search, you might find some of the old>> threads.>
Thanks. As someone posted the count back then - 2367 posts. Its going be a >long read :-)­

Don't forget Coulthard's eventual admission of fault, of a few years
ago.

- Jones
FORZA!
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Bigbird 12 May 2005 14:37:36 [ permanent link ]
 

Mark Jones wrote:> On Wed, 11 May 2005 13:32:47 GMT, "Sreekumar A" <s r e e k u -no spam> please-@hotmail.com­> wrote:> > Emma wrote:> > > Sreekumar A <s@r.e.invalid> wrote:> > > > Pete Fenelon wrote:> > > > > Until the next S** '98. ;)> > > > I know it is a forbidden word around here. But what happened> > > > back then (other than the first corner accident)? I have been> > > > here in RASF1 (mostly reading) only for 3 years.> > >
It was something akin to World War 3.> > > Try doing a Google Groups search, you might find some of the old> > > threads.> >
Thanks. As someone posted the count back then - 2367 posts. Its> > going be a long read :-)­>
Don't forget Coulthard's eventual admission of fault, of a few years> ago.>
Nah that's just your imagination in a vain desire for closure.


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F2005: 0 of 3 16 May 2005 07:23:33 [ permanent link ]
 On 10 May 2005 18:22:14 -0700, "George" <georgebeer2@yahoo.­ca> wrote:>Are newsgroups the CB radio of the 2000's? I haven't seen a Finn in>here for ages.

They're all in the skin bars, drunkardly waving their dicks about, in
emulation of their "brilliant" hero.

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