JV another Rene Arnoux?

Is there a wap version of your site?

Hello Guest

• Login
• Register…
• Start blog

• Who, Where, When
• What is interesting here?
• Duels

• Polls
• Avatars
• Interests

• Cities and Countries
• Random blog
• Users search

• Search
• Games
• Tests
• GYXU

• Сообщества
• Talxy Chat
• Horoscope
• Online

GYXU > F1, Indy, Nascar, Rally > JV another Rene Arnoux? 8 March 2005 06:22:39

Recent blog posts:

pipiska!!!upja4ka!!!pshli…
pipiska!!!upja4ka!!!pshli nax!!!

UPJA4KA!!!
TUTSJAPI6!!PI6!ZEPJ EBRILO!!!!!ZAZA!!!TELOIDI, DA! MY – EBANULISJ!!!PI6! PI6! PI6! OJAEBU!!I…

Hi!
Hi! I am Kate from Ukraine! I don't now, everything about this website. Also I dodn't know english very…

...
http://gyxu.com/p/login.cgi?r=http://www.winxclub.com/

ONOTOLE NEGODUE
Blin, nu zaipali trabli s ssilkami.Zaxozu kuda to - BAZ! i ja snova gostj.Vxozu i vse norma,no…

4to za xerj ?
Menja 4asto vikidivaet !!!X-(

...
..........................Privet

Privet blja !!!
Privet blja !!!

Sri Lanka Vs West Indies
Sri Lanka won the first match by more than 100 runs…this is first in West Indies. .unfortunately after…

...
gfgdgd

Forums:

topic feeds

• GYXU all topics, blogs and comments

• General

• F1, Indy, Nascar, Rally

• Baseball

• Basketball

• Boxing

• Football

• Soccer

• Hockey

• Rugby

• Tennis

• Pro Wrestling

• Billiard

• Cycling

• Boats

• Kites, widsurfing, waterski

• Diving

• Skiing

• Cricket

• Golf

• Skating

• Buy / Sell

• Anonymous

Discuss:

Woohoo!
The best there ever was and the best there ever will be. Jeff Gordon

Re: ExcuseFest 2009
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:15:28 -0800 (PST), sterling <sterlingla@aol.com> wrote: There is…

Recent forum topics:

Hoffman's High Hemologin Values
Does any of our Scandinavian friends know about Christian Hoffman being recently banned from racing for…

Steel bolts and nuts for Ultima…
The now discontinued Jackson Ultima Matrix mounts (for removable figure skating blade runners) held the…

Stockholm-Falun scoring system…
Kowalczyk overcame Majdic to win the overall WC title because she got the 200 bonus points for the…

Worn Rotefella Boots
Dear All, just back from an excellent trip to Norway. One problem, in heavy snow, very difficult to…

Recent forum comments:

RE: BIC longboards
Sorry I should also say that we normally have 4-11 knot winds in our area with the emphasis around 6-8…

RE: Macho macho man Dave Strang of…
ROTFL He was actually hide the REAL reason why he got mad . It is because Virginia Sung twiddled her…

RE: Re: Day 8 Results
On Mar 22, 11:50pm, Louis Epstein <l...@main.put.com> wrote: See his post for day 6. In…

RE: Hoffman's High Hemologin Values
On Mar 23, 3:11pm, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> wrote: Thanks Terje…

RE: Hoffman's High Hemologin Values
ADK Skier wrote: The real problem wasn't a high hemo value, but the wrong ratio between what I…

RE: Hoffman's High Hemologin Values
I'll stay out of that one. Some February lab test results - in the midst of races - showed my…

RE: Hoffman's High Hemologin Values
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:49:37 -0700 (PDT), ADK Skier <lgsumr@yahoo.com> wrote: Kikkan Randall…

RE: Stockholm-Falun scoring system…
"Professional" sports mean money. People or more liekly, organizations, are paying and…

RE: Worn Rotefella Boots
Thanks for the suggestion. Looking at the boot tip in the cold light of day, the rubber is worn and the…

RE: sintered bases, radioactive wax…
On Mar 17, 8:58am, lo....@free.fr wrote: Is there a cheap equivalent substitute metal scraper? Cabinet…

Модератор:


JV another Rene Arnoux?
Trevor Pavitt 6 March 2005 21:43:27
	A once great driver who is destroying whatever reputation he may have had by refusing to move over. Anyone agree?
		Add comment


Guid0 6 March 2005 21:56:37 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 17:43:27 +0000, Trevor Pavitt <trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: A once great driver who is destroying whatever reputation he may have had by>refusing to move over. Anyone agree? That sounds right to me although we won't be absolutely sure of it until he retires because, like DC, every new day could be "his day" : ) G../0
		Add comment


Ash 6 March 2005 22:58:47 [ permanent link ]
	"Trevor Pavitt" <trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:BE50F1BF.11EB6%trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk...> A once great driver who is destroying whatever reputation he may have had refusing to move over. Anyone agree?> Nope, he believes in himself, who cares what everyone else thinks................... As much as I dislike JV, He does what the hell he wants, best of luck to him.
		Add comment


Vile Merchant 6 March 2005 23:08:36 [ permanent link ]
	"Pete Fenelon" <pete@fenelon.com> wrote in message news:4fgf0d.6a5.ln@fenelon.com...> Trevor Pavitt <trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:> > A once great driver who is destroying whatever reputation he may have had by> > refusing to move over. Anyone agree?> A driver who should not have come back last year, and after his> performances last year, definitely should not have come back this year.> I doubt he'll finish the season. But whether he falls or Peter Sauber> pushes him is another matter entirely... I'm starting to think he'll remain in the team. Yes, he's horrendous, but how's the amount of camera time he gets?! He's certainly great exposure for Sauber's sponsors no matter how bad he drives. Meanwhile the team can concentrate on Massa's car, who I think might score some solid points this year..
		Add comment


Ryan P. Sweeney 6 March 2005 23:08:42 [ permanent link ]
	"Ash" <ashley@NOSPAMwana.NOSPAMNET> wrote in message news:d0fjug$so6$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...> "Trevor Pavitt" <trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message> news:BE50F1BF.11EB6%trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk...> > A once great driver who is destroying whatever reputation he may have had> by> > refusing to move over. Anyone agree?> > Nope, he believes in himself, who cares what everyone else> thinks...................> As much as I dislike JV, He does what the hell he wants, best of luck to> him.> You're hangin wit da wrong crowd if you like JV. He has a mouth and uses it. Drivers should be obedient and silent. like Michael. If you watch post race press conferences of him going back to 1992, he says exactly the same thing during each one, using the same words, varying the content slightly only in their order. It gets the fans excited.
		Add comment


Ash 6 March 2005 23:59:52 [ permanent link ]
	"Ryan P. Sweeney" <rianpee@pee.pee> wrote in message news:3912q3F5s2n6fU1@individual.net...> "Ash" <ashley@NOSPAMwana.NOSPAMNET> wrote in message> news:d0fjug$so6$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...> > "Trevor Pavitt" <trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message> > news:BE50F1BF.11EB6%trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk...> > > A once great driver who is destroying whatever reputation he may have refusing to move over. Anyone agree?> > > Nope, he believes in himself, who cares what everyone else> > thinks...................> > As much as I dislike JV, He does what the hell he wants, best of luck to> > him.> > You're hangin wit da wrong crowd if you like JV. No read my post again - i dislike him
		Add comment


Hamish 7 March 2005 00:56:58 [ permanent link ]
	"Trevor Pavitt" <trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:BE50F1BF.11EB6%trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk...>A once great driver who is destroying whatever reputation he may have had >by> refusing to move over. Anyone agree?> Not sure about the "once great driver", he once had a great car, which allowed him to beat MS. I do not think he should pull over and let people pass him just because them might be quicker than him, unless of course he is being lapped. The fault lies in the cars or drivers not being able to overtake even when they are 3 seconds a lap quicker, that's hardly JV's fault, and he is just doing what comes naturally to any driver and getting the best result he legally can. Hamish
		Add comment


Phlegm1 7 March 2005 02:24:48 [ permanent link ]
	"Hamish" <nothanks@ic24.net> wrote in message news:d0fqqq$fq9$1@hercules.btinternet.com...> "Trevor Pavitt" <trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message> news:BE50F1BF.11EB6%trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk...> >A once great driver who is destroying whatever reputation he may have had> >by> > refusing to move over. Anyone agree?> > Not sure about the "once great driver", he once had a great car, which> allowed him to beat MS.> I do not think he should pull over and let people pass him just because them> might be quicker than him, unless of course he is being lapped. The fault> lies in the cars or drivers not being able to overtake even when they are 3> seconds a lap quicker, that's hardly JV's fault, and he is just doing what> comes naturally to any driver and getting the best result he legally can.> Hamish> Bollocks. When you're being lapped, you should pull over to let them through. "Saying that he getting the best result he legally can" demonstrates your ignorance. When he's being lapped, he's not improving his situation by blocking. He was a great driver in his prime, but that's over now. His accomplishments before he came to F1 and for the first 2 years in F1 speak for themselves. Doubting his early ability is simply not paying attention to his early career.
		Add comment


Da Frank 7 March 2005 02:46:38 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 17:24:48 -0500, "Phlegm1" <Phlegm1@Phlegm.ca> wrote: Bollocks. When you're being lapped, you should pull over to let them through.>"Saying that he getting the best result he legally can" demonstrates your>ignorance. When he's being lapped, he's not improving his situation by>blocking.> When did he block anyone in this race, while being lapped ? Where i saw, he moved the hell out of everyone's way quite nicely and this was even observed by the commentators.. He was a great driver in his prime, but that's over now. His accomplishments>before he came to F1 and for the first 2 years in F1 speak for themselves.>Doubting his early ability is simply not paying attention to his early career.> Bollocks. He was a great name, and a flash in the pan. That is not a "great driver". Even DC and Rubens are 'greater' drivers, despite never winning a championship they were always near the top of the rankings.. JV, since leaving the all conquering Williams is near the top of what ? Oh yeah, the scrap heap. -- Regards, Frank
		Add comment


Tim@Nocomment.Com 7 March 2005 03:01:15 [ permanent link ]
	Phlegm1 wrote: "Hamish" <nothanks@ic24.net> wrote in message> news:d0fqqq$fq9$1@hercules.btinternet.com...> "Trevor Pavitt" <trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message>>news:BE50F1BF.11EB6%trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk...>> A once great driver who is destroying whatever reputation he may have had>>>by>>>refusing to move over. Anyone agree?>>> Not sure about the "once great driver", he once had a great car, which>>allowed him to beat MS.>>I do not think he should pull over and let people pass him just because them>>might be quicker than him, unless of course he is being lapped. The fault>>lies in the cars or drivers not being able to overtake even when they are 3>>seconds a lap quicker, that's hardly JV's fault, and he is just doing what>>comes naturally to any driver and getting the best result he legally can.>> Hamish>> Bollocks. When you're being lapped, you should pull over to let them through.> "Saying that he getting the best result he legally can" demonstrates your> ignorance. When he's being lapped, he's not improving his situation by> blocking.> You may want to re-read the above paragraph. He was a great driver in his prime, but that's over now. His accomplishments> before he came to F1 and for the first 2 years in F1 speak for themselves.> Doubting his early ability is simply not paying attention to his early career.>
		Add comment


Ruddell 7 March 2005 05:34:16 [ permanent link ]
	In <3912q3F5s2n6fU1@individual.net> Ryan P. Sweeney wrote:> "Ash" <ashley@NOSPAMwana.NOSPAMNET> wrote in message> news:d0fjug$so6$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...>> "Trevor Pavitt" <trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message>> news:BE50F1BF.11EB6%trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk...>> > A once great driver who is destroying whatever reputation he may >> > have had>> by>> > refusing to move over. Anyone agree?>> > Nope, he believes in himself, who cares what everyone else>> thinks...................>> As much as I dislike JV, He does what the hell he wants, best of luck >> to him.>> You're hangin wit da wrong crowd if you like JV. I like JV and it hasn't bothered me in the least. He has a mouth and > uses it. Drivers should be obedient and silent. Some are and some aren't...just like everywhere else. like Michael. Nope...hate his guts. If you > watch post race press conferences of him going back to 1992, he says > exactly the same thing during each one, using the same words, varying > the content slightly only in their order. Yeah? It gets the fans excited. Yeah? -- Cheers Dennis Remove 'Elle-Kabong' to reply
		Add comment


Bob Dubery 7 March 2005 09:51:14 [ permanent link ]
	Phlegm1 wrote: Bollocks. When you're being lapped, you should pull over to let them through.> "Saying that he getting the best result he legally can" demonstrates your> ignorance. When he's being lapped, he's not improving his situation blocking. I assume we're talking about JV holding up DC. The real problem - as Martin Brundle pointed out - was bad marshalling. For some reason the marshalls weren't showing JV blue flags. Now the rules say you must move over on the 3rd blue flag. JV didn't get that 3rd flag for a long time and so there was no requirement in terms of the laws for him to move over. As for "he should have done the decent thing"... well, ANY driver on that grid (except possibly the Minardi guys who expect to get lapped) would have said something like "I didn't see blue flags and so I had no idea I was being lapped".
		Add comment


Jeff York 7 March 2005 14:41:14 [ permanent link ]
	"Bob Dubery" <megapode@gmail.com> wrote: Phlegm1 wrote:> Bollocks. When you're being lapped, you should pull over to let them>through.>> "Saying that he getting the best result he legally can" demonstrates>your>> ignorance. When he's being lapped, he's not improving his situation>by>> blocking.> I assume we're talking about JV holding up DC. The real problem - as>Martin Brundle pointed out - was bad marshalling. For some reason the>marshalls weren't showing JV blue flags. <Conspiracy Alert!!> I don't know whether you've noticed, but during races held in Italy, the marshalls are incredibly quick to show blue flags to back-markers soon to be lapped by the Ferraris, and sometimes are a tad tardy showing the blue if a car leading a Ferrari is catching a back-marker.. Human nature, they're fans as well as marshalls.. Interesting that DC was just ahead of Mark Webber.. Allowing JV to hold DC up for a while was improving MW's chances.. Oz marshalls, Oz driver.. Why should they be any less enthusiastic as the Italians?? </C A> Now the rules say you must move over on the 3rd blue flag. JV didn't>get that 3rd flag for a long time and so there was no requirement in>terms of the laws for him to move over.> As for "he should have done the decent thing"... well, ANY driver on>that grid (except possibly the Minardi guys who expect to get lapped)>would have said something like "I didn't see blue flags and so I had no>idea I was being lapped". Agreed.. It was obvious from the radio intercepts that they put on the TV that, for example, Alonso hadn't the faintest idea whether he was racing Barrichello for position, or, for that matter, what position he himself was in.. Sorting out which is a lapping car (other than last year when it was a red one) in those pathetic little mirrors is too much to ask of any driver. -- Jeff. Ironbridge, Shrops, U.K. jeff@xjackfieldx.org (remove the x..x round jackfield for return address) and don't bother with ralf4, it's a spamtrap and I never go there.. ... "There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea.." Henry James, (1843 - 1916).
		Add comment


Paul-B 7 March 2005 16:07:24 [ permanent link ]
	Miichael Burke wrote: Double bollocks... I'll raise your bollocks and see you... -- Paul-B The original and the best
		Add comment


Bob Dubery 7 March 2005 16:13:31 [ permanent link ]
	Phlegm1 wrote: Bollocks. When you're being lapped, you should pull over to let them through.> "Saying that he getting the best result he legally can" demonstrates your> ignorance. When he's being lapped, he's not improving his situation blocking. Well what if the driver being lapped is involved in a close race with another car? If he's required to move off the racing line then he must damage his own race.
		Add comment


Ric Zito 7 March 2005 17:44:39 [ permanent link ]
	Paul-B <null@null.invalid> wrote: Miichael Burke wrote:> Double bollocks...> I'll raise your bollocks and see you... I'm starting to worry about you... -- ric ric at pixelligence dot com
		Add comment


Guest 7 March 2005 17:46:31 [ permanent link ]
	Trevor Pavitt wrote:> A once great driver who is destroying whatever reputation he may have had by> refusing to move over. Anyone agree? If you are reffering to when he held up DC, the marshalls where quite slow to react. As it should be obvious after hearing Alonso's radio, after a while drivers have no idea who is in front or behind them. Blue flags are there to tell drivers that they are being lapped, not racing for position. I guess you missed the other times where he moved over without causing any troubles? You can blame him for a complete lack of pace during that race, but not for marshalling errors. Stefan Mazur
		Add comment


Frank.... 7 March 2005 23:09:18 [ permanent link ]
	Miichael Burke wrote: "Phlegm1" <Phlegm1@Phlegm.ca> wrote in message> news:391e9sF5nmd8nU1@individual.net... <snip> Bollocks. When you're being lapped, you should pull over to let them>> through.> Double bollocks... if they want racing, excitement and still want to slow> cars down, do away with blue flags. It is simple, cheap and effective. I'd> rather see someone racing with a back marker than out for a test drive in> first place. "...racing with a back marker"? How is that racing? I have no problem when there is a position involved. JV, Minardi, or anyone else is under no obligation to let the "quicker" car by even if the outcome is "inevitable". But to suggest that backmarkers should block to make for a better "show".... well that's just crazy not mention downright dangerous. -- Frank....H
		Add comment


Frank.... 7 March 2005 23:20:09 [ permanent link ]
	Ruddell wrote: In <3912q3F5s2n6fU1@individual.net> Ryan P. Sweeney wrote: <snip> You're hangin wit da wrong crowd if you like JV.> I like JV and it hasn't bothered me in the least.> He has a mouth and>> uses it. Drivers should be obedient and silent.> Some are and some aren't...just like everywhere else.> like Michael.> Nope...hate his guts.> <snip> I've always enjoyed watching JV and I think he gets a bad rap here too often. He's got great car control as once again evidenced by his recovery from that spin on Saturday. Not the first time I've seen him do stuff like that. He gets knocked for not pushing hard when the car is not up to it and to a certain extent that is true. However in most drivers that is usually considered a mark of maturity. And when he does have confidence in the car there are few more aggressive. BTW, I enjoy watching Schumacher too.... -- Frank....H
		Add comment


Paul-B 8 March 2005 01:41:56 [ permanent link ]
	ric zito wrote: Paul-B <null@null.invalid> wrote:> Miichael Burke wrote:> > Double bollocks...> > I'll raise your bollocks and see you...> I'm starting to worry about you... Starting? -- Paul-B The original and the best
		Add comment


Michael Burke 8 March 2005 06:22:39 [ permanent link ]
	"Frank...." <ask@me.4it> wrote in message news:d0i8su$3c6$2@uwm.edu...> Miichael Burke wrote:> "Phlegm1" <Phlegm1@Phlegm.ca> wrote in message>> news:391e9sF5nmd8nU1@individual.net...> <snip>> Bollocks. When you're being lapped, you should pull over to let them>>> through.>> Double bollocks... if they want racing, excitement and still want to slow>> cars down, do away with blue flags. It is simple, cheap and effective.>> I'd>> rather see someone racing with a back marker than out for a test drive in>> first place.> "...racing with a back marker"? How is that racing?> I have no problem when there is a position involved. JV, Minardi, or> anyone> else is under no obligation to let the "quicker" car by even if the> outcome> is "inevitable". But to suggest that backmarkers should block to make for> a> better "show".... well that's just crazy not mention downright dangerous. No... they shouldn't block anyone - same rules as for any pass. But they shouldn't head for the hills and hide because faster cars are behind them and some doink on the sidelines is waving a flag at them. Let the faster cars pass the slower ones, if they can. It's a race. Let them race. If the faster cars are held up for a few laps while the driver makes the pass, then great! It has slowed the cars down. If it is too dangerous to race, pack up the bags and call it a day. It is just glorified testing in that case.
		Add comment

GYXU > F1, Indy, Nascar, Rally > JV another Rene Arnoux? 8 March 2005 06:22:39

	see also: Re: (Howard Stern) He Should Promote… Will you be my Valentine, RSPW?		pass tests:		see also: http://demish.gyxu.com/i/temp/2/128... ... ...

Copyright © 2001—2009 GYXU
Idea: Miсhael Monashev
See Help and FAQ in the community support.gyxu.com.
Write in the community about the bugs you have noticedbugs.gyxu.com.
Write your offers and comments in the communities suggest.gyxu.com.
Information for parents.
Write us at:

If you would like to report an abuse of our service, such as a spam message, please .